WEBVTT - UNDER THE INFLUENCE: Sam Mangan 0:00:01.480 --> 0:00:03.360 You know, ougs have now tried to make shoes like 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:05.320 I saw one the other day. One of the brands 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:08.480 has released a pair of high heel ods. Oh my gosh, 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:10.639 I just think, look dying a fire. I can't be 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:14.400 involved cross. I can't run cross. They can't run ugs 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:17.759 with the heel of it. Stay home, Okay, I tell 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:19.479 you what. In my agency, we have what's called the 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:21.840 black list. Don't come to one of my events and 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:24.799 not do any content. We didn't spend a fortune on 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:27.280 Floral's at a fucking event. More on for you to 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:30.520 turn up and leave. You're not famous, That's that's ran 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:33.400 and said you must walk around with such baggage all 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:36.320 day long. Everything bothers here, And I thought, if only 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:39.080 you knew me, nothing like this bothers me. Honestly washes 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:40.120 them me immediately. 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:46.400 Hello and welcome to Outspoken. We are so lucky to 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:50.479 be joined by the smart, hilarious and super talented Sam Mangan. 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:54.040 So firstly, of course, you're the director of Spin and Co, 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:57.560 a hugely successful global brand agency on the Gold Coast. 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:02.040 You've worked with massive brands and spearheaded multimillion dollar campaigns 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:04.759 growing up. Is that the life that you thought you'd lead. 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:07.320 Look, I don't know if it's the life I thought 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:09.680 I would lead, But I also think, I mean you 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:12.080 think about like young people. I mean, who the hell 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:14.200 knows what you're going to do? Right. There was this 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:17.039 sort of illustrious idea in my head when I was 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:19.479 not super young, but you know, when I was sort 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:22.000 of high school, and you know, this idea of traveling 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:23.840 the world and working, and I thought that would be 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:26.959 so cool. I can confirm now that i'm there. Not 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:30.640 so cool got myss off right in the middle of that, 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:31.240 didn't I. 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:34.640 As we mentioned, you run a hugely successful business, but 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:36.840 I hear it all started with glow sticks. 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:39.840 I've always sort of been, I guess, business minded. But 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:43.960 when I was very young, I think I was around fourteen. 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.320 I remember every week you used to have to take 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:49.360 home to your parents the school newsletter, and you know, 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:51.560 most weeks it didn't make it home. But remember one 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:53.960 week I was reading it and it's said on there 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:55.919 it was a call out for things that they needed 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:58.560 for the annual school fair, and one of them was 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:01.080 glow sticks. And I thought to myself, how hard can 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:03.240 it be to find glow sticks? And this is in 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:05.480 the days before Ali Barber, So I sort of went 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.320 to Google. I mean, probably maybe it existed, I don't know, 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:10.080 but I don't think it did. I went to Google 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:12.639 and sort of searched around and found a supplier who 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:16.679 met who was actually in Australia but could facilitate purchasing 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:18.840 through China. I tell you what, I've never been so 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:21.880 rich in my whole life as I was in that 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:24.640 moment when I did that sale. You know, at fourteen, 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:27.360 with thousands of dollars, You'll never be that rich ever again, 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:28.440 I can tell you that much. 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:30.360 I'm glad to hear you went with glow sticks because 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:32.040 the school we went to, I think the only thing 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:35.200 people were selling with drugs at fourteen, So well, I. 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:37.800 Mean that's you know, look, I would say my margins 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:41.760 weren't quite that good. Access was a little less defarious. 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:45.359 That was ideal, but yeah, look I think it was 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:48.320 a free gift. I kind of recall how they ended 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:50.960 up transacting. I remember that that one sage they asked 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:53.680 me if we could facilitate the sale of them at 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.840 the event. I said, look, we're just wholesalers of products. 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:00.960 It's not we're not retailers. Bought that line and off 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:03.960 they went. But yeah, no, so that was the beginning 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:06.240 of the whole sort of disaster that it is. 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:09.280 It is interesting to hear that you did start selling glowsticks, though, 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:12.000 because there's obviously a lot of talk about everyone wants 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:15.440 to be an entrepreneur now and start a business and nauseating. 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:18.080 Oh I know, and everyone's because I will listen to 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:21.239 a lot of Gary Vee, who seems to be God, 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:24.680 and he, you know, he talks about how he started 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:29.000 his lemonade stolen whatever, And it always seems that entrepreneurs 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:32.000 have the same story starting a business young. But what 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:34.760 would be your advice to young people? I mean, as 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:36.720 we're saying, it seems to be a trendy thing at 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:38.960 the moment, but what is the reality of actually owning 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:40.560 a successful business? 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:43.720 Look the reality when you're younger. And I can't be 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:46.560 clear about this. Yes, I started a glowstick business when 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:49.040 I was younger. Yes it was successful for a very 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.560 short period of time. It wasn't like I then went 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:54.080 on to build a globsed toga empire and sold it. 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:57.120 That wasn't the case one bit. I got lucky to 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:59.760 a certain extent. What I will say, is that the 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:02.240 moment most of valuable stuff I've done in my life 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:04.119 in terms of allowing me to do what I do now, 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:08.440 was I had a job as a telemarketer three times over. 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:12.120 I sold time share. At one stage, I sold charitable donations. 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.040 And that is that, you know, working for someone else 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:17.520 that wasn't my own business. And that was easily the 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:21.400 most valuable work I've ever done, because let me tell you, 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:25.279 there is nothing harder than seldom timeshare. So it just 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:28.640 teaches you calling someone and selling over the phone. It 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:31.680 just it's a totally different discipline. I just think it's 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:35.560 super valuable. And now with people like Gary Vee and 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:38.400 you know, to an extent, he's also talking about, you know, 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:41.120 don't be an entrepreneur. You know, it's fine to work 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.000 for a business. But I think at the core of 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:45.640 his message is and I think it's because people are deluded, right, 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:48.520 like people honestly think out there that you know, when 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:50.800 he says not everyone's made to build a business, it's 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:52.720 a select group of people. Everyone goes, yeah, I'm the 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:55.359 selector of people. No DCTA. If you're not, you're actually 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:58.159 a loser who should be you know, pushing trolleys. You 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:01.400 need to focus on the reality of the circumstance. And 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.280 so for me, like I can't stress enough that had 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:06.360 I have not done those user as a telemarketer, I'm 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:08.360 not sure I would be as successful as I am. Now. 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:10.960 That's such a good point about being able to talk 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:13.160 to anybody on the phone, because I used to work 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:15.280 it today tonight, and I can tell you so many 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:17.560 crazy people used to call up with their stories, and 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:20.200 I feel like it was the best training ground because 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:22.400 if you can deal with crazies on the phone like that, 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:24.839 you can deal with crazy people in the pr world, 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:25.440 I think. 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:27.680 One hundred percent. I mean I used to have to 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:29.640 call people and you know, you'd speak to them for 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.320 all of four or five seconds before you're asking their 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:35.920 average household income. And let me tell you, there's no 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:40.760 Madder white forty plus male. So when you ask him 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:42.800 how much money he earns, I can tell you that 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:46.160 much because they would just let loose you've called during dinner. 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:50.040 You're the scum of the air, know what you do? Say? 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:52.440 That sounds like our dad who might have called you 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:53.960 keep your whistle by the phone. 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:56.440 If I'd have called my house, let me tell I 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:59.440 would have got the exact same serving, but it really 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:01.560 was a learning care that. I don't think there's a 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:06.719 lot of appreciation placed anymore into, you know, just having 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:09.240 a job, Like it's it's so funny now it's like, oh, 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:11.919 who has a job these days everyone owns a business. God, 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:14.400 there are some days I think to myself, imagine the 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:18.000 ease of just going to Woolworth's packing shells, leaving it 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.359 five and not giving up flying talking about the place 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:22.359 ever again. You know, Wow. 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:29.159 I think it's because dear Lord, and a lot of 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:32.039 people wouldn't know that you actually studied law, So what 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:34.360 made you want to move? Make them move from law 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:35.440 to public relations. 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:38.039 Look, I have a very strong ego as to so 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.760 many people in business, but I don't like being in 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:43.919 a room where people speak and I don't understand what 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.680 they're talking about. That's reserved exclusively for when I'm with 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:50.120 my accountants. No, I think it's it's just super I 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:52.480 just didn't like it. It was uncomfortable. I felt that it 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:53.960 was a it was something that I could go to 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:57.120 university here, I mean with trash university degrees here, But 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.479 for me, I don't like that going to university and 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.520 studying that you could learn on the job yourself as 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:04.600 you're going as opposed to something like the law, where 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:07.280 it's quite difficult to attain that knowledge without being tortured. 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:09.359 And so I felt if I was going to go 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:10.880 to UNI, which I wanted to do, I wanted to, 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:13.920 you know, spend this ridiculous amount of money to learn 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:16.280 something that I couldn't otherwise learn on the job. Whereas 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:18.160 for me, and this isn't the case for everyone, but 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.600 for me, I didn't feel like a business degree would 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:24.000 be super valuable a marketing dough etc. Because I didn't 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.400 feel like a lot of the greats that I would 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:28.160 look up to, you know, when I was a lot younger, 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:31.360 most of them that you knew of didn't have business degree. 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:33.200 So I kind of found that category was sort of like, 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:35.000 if I'm going to spend the money. Look, my mum 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:36.840 was devastated. She was hoping that I was going to 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:38.480 work my way up and be a lawyer. This whole 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:41.400 start your own business plava to her was just an 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:43.640 excuse to not get a job. But you know, it's 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:44.920 just one of those things for me that I just 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:48.239 felt like it would be valuable in so many aspects 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:50.280 of my life. So that was the best investment of 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:53.040 my time and money to have a degree that would 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:54.640 allow me to well informed. And look, I mean, you 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:55.960 guys are in a business you've knowniced as well as 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:58.560 I do. So many people love to throw around like 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.240 I'll sue you, or like suing is, and let me 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:04.680 tell you, the legal system is not built for anyone 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:07.480 to win. The only people who win a lawyers, because 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:11.920 every dispute is just you go literally nowhere. It's it's 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:14.640 such a terrible system where it's designed to make it 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:17.760 difficult so that not everything goes through, you know, like 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:20.160 even small claims and things like that. It's just silliness. 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:25.480 So having to understanding you know, contractual negotiations, contractual obligations, 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:27.800 you know, protections, you know, just being able to read 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:29.760 a contract and understand what I was reading, it's just 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:32.280 it's been super super valuable for me. Well. 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:35.360 Aside from all your business accolades, you are also renowned 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:39.480 for your amazing Instagram rants. We love them. I just 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:42.640 can't get enough of. And also your podcast. Literally I've 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:45.480 been recommending it to everyone I was just listening. I 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:48.400 appreciate it and it's so good. You know, like this 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:50.560 PC world we're living in at the moment, it's so 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:53.480 nice to hear someone actually being honest and open and 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:56.120 I love that. Can you tell us what inspired your rants? 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.640 Yeah? Look, it was purely accidental. It's funny. I still 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:02.720 get messages from people. I still get comments from people 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.000 who say to me, oh, you're turning it on a bit, 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:07.240 or you're hamming it up, or it's you know, this 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:10.199 actor is too much. I can honestly tell you, and 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:12.760 as will anyone who knows me well, none of it's 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:15.320 an act. All of its reality. If you get me 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:17.360 started on any sort of topic, we'll come back to 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:19.040 Gary B. But if you get me to start on 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.800 any topic, I really can go on all day. And 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:25.600 it's stopping me. That's the more difficult of the task. 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:29.280 But for me, I just I started off originally doing 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:32.520 Instagram stories where I would finish my day and I 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:35.680 would just sort of have a general conversation with what 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.520 was a very small group, you know, personal friends, et cetera, 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.079 and sort of did that. Well, so personal friends who 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:42.559 followed me, I didn't have a being following, and so 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:44.120 what I should have said? And so then I did 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.920 that and then slowly more and more people started to 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:49.080 sort of, you know, follow me and talk about it. 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:52.320 And then they started responding to the Instagram stories and saying, 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:54.520 if you posted this, I could tag my friend. I 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:56.320 wish I could send to my friend. And then I 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:58.800 started to notice in the analytics that people were sending 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:03.240 the content on So then I decided, why not post 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:05.199 it and then let's see what happens. And then sort 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.640 of the ball started rolling. And I mean, look, it's 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:09.280 taken a bit of a life of its own. I 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:12.840 unfortunately do have many day jobs, so I can't dedicate 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:14.760 probably as much time as I would like to sit 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.320 there and winch about the world's problem is going to 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:18.439 be of the world. 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.840 You're not going to become a full time influence an hour. 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:25.640 Oh look, wouldn't I just be the worst influencer ever? 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.240 Let me tell you. I mean, I mean, we're banging 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:32.440 on Bunning's warehouse door as we speak, demanding to be answered, 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:35.480 and yet they are refusing to talk to us. So 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:39.440 I think that my influencer days are very much numbered, 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:42.440 if they even existed ever. But so it kind of 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:44.920 just evolved very naturally from there. You know, the podcast 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:47.360 thing We've launched a new businesses recently which is in 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.120 podcast production, and so it was just sort of a 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:53.720 natural evolution to have a podcast. But again, it doesn't 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:55.280 have an intent. I know a lot of people think 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:57.120 I lie when I say this, but it doesn't have 0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:00.120 an intent. There isn't some sort of grand plan and 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:02.880 behind it. It's just because it's a bit of fun. 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:06.000 I you know, personally, I like the fact that people 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.760 can listen to it and have pure escapism for a 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:13.080 moment of their day. It's ridiculous, it's stupid. I'm complaining 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.720 and getting very worked une without the most inane and 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:19.240 moronic things. But that I truly believe that is what 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.480 underpins all human beings. You know. The fact that someone 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.280 doesn't use their indicator is something that no matter what happens, 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:28.200 it will drive me mental for the rest of my days. 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:30.560 And it's it's the stupid stuff. Like the other day 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:32.680 on my story, I went to a cafe and I 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:36.000 got an iced coffee and I left with my paper 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:39.040 straw that disintegrate and under thirty seconds. But it's trash. 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:41.320 But it was served in a single use plastic cup, 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:44.200 and it was served with a single use plastic spoon. 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:47.800 I mean, please, you know, but we're all we all 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.160 feel good about ourselves because we're using it a straw 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:52.640 that you know, I couldn't even of course it people. 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:54.280 Of course it's good for the environment. It's not even 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:56.360 good for my drink. You can't get through one whole drink. 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:58.480 Of course, it's going to disintegrate before it gets to 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:02.480 a turtle. But I mean, for me, it's just I 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:04.360 just think it's funny because it's something that we can 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:06.199 all connect with. And I get so many messages from 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:08.440 people who now I sound like I'm really influence suff 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:12.160 I get so many messages all the time, some who 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.040 say to me like, oh, it was just so refreshing 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:15.200 you you put a smile on my face and I 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:16.640 was having a down day or this, that and the other. 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:18.280 And I think to myself, will why not put it 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:20.760 out there? What's the difference. It doesn't make any difference 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:22.520 to my day in terms of it's not what I 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:24.760 do for a living or anything. But I just think 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:27.720 there's so many silly things, and I must admit so 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.480 many people say to me, you know that we're living 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:32.000 in a PC world, and it's good to hear someone 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:35.079 and say, I honestly don't think I'm that controversial. Sometimes sure, 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.199 but I honestly don't think half maybe three quarters of 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.920 stuff I say it's that bad. I truly just think 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:43.240 it's just normal. I just maybe color it in a 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:43.760 different way. 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:46.280 I think it's just you know, people are so careful 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:48.000 these days what they say, so I think it's just 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:50.520 nice to be like, hey, I think the same as you, 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:53.120 and you know, like PC Brigade, it's not going to 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:53.600 come in. 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:57.240 And yeah, oh and look they come in. They come 0:12:57.280 --> 0:12:59.679 and they come into the Instagram DM or let me 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:02.560 tell you, they roll in with their little pity party. 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:03.959 But I think it's quite funny. But I had a 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:05.880 d N the other day. Actually it was the most 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.400 bizarre DAM I've ever probably not ever received, but one 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:10.760 of the more bizarre ones. Normally, someone will come into 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.800 my dms either abuse me because I'm a terrible person, 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:17.480 or it'll be generally speaking, the audience that I've sort 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:20.840 of put together that is very it's the nicest people. 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:23.360 All they all get it. They're all in on the joke, 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:25.840 is what I like to say. No, Like I have something, 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:27.560 we message me in and I'll say like I can't 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:29.800 believe you're so worked up over a straw. You're so 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:33.240 over this. I'm not worked up over It's just it's annoying, 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:35.960 and it's something that why not talk about it? And 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:38.599 the hypocrisy of the straw thing or that says that, 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.040 I just think is funny, And that's what I'm talking 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:43.240 about it. I'm not going around. I've got one about 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:45.120 two weeks ago and someone messtery and said, you must 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:48.880 walk around with such baggage all day long. Everything bothers here, 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.360 and I thought, if only you knew me, nothing like 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:54.280 this bothers me. Honestly, it washes them me immediately. But 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:56.199 I think, wow, what a funny thing to talk about 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:57.920 like that. I mean, here we go. No, you can't 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:01.000 stop me. The Royals, I mean people saying they should 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:05.400 be flying commercial. That is a true face, I mean honestly. 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:08.280 I mean they're not flying economy because they want to, 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:10.920 or because it's a good idea or anything. They're flying 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:14.160 economy for pr Oh, it's ridiculous. 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:16.800 Do you reckon me? Do you actually think that Will 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:20.400 and Kate and their kids actually flew economy Because there 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:22.360 was that photo floating around of them walking on the 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:24.720 tarmac and I thought, wait a sec, don't they aren't 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.280 they meant to fly sep parally anyway, William and George 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:30.760 because if the plane goes down, there's your future King's dead. 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:32.640 So I was like, well, did they even fly it? 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:34.720 Or do they just get this photo snapped on the top. 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:37.720 I truly believe they do, because there's photos of them 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:40.480 on board as well, And that's the ridiculous's right, like 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:43.320 that they're on board, but they're surrounded by guards and 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:45.480 it's like, well, I understand, like what's that? You know 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:48.840 what I mean? But honestly, what a disgusting life to leave, Like, 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:51.640 you know, every day you grked at. You can't do anything. 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:53.880 It's not like a regular celebrity. They're not allowed to 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:56.720 say anything they want. Their grandmother tells them everything. They're 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:58.480 allowed to do, becau they're allowed to marry, when they're 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:01.880 allowed to talk. I mean, like, it's really a sad existence. 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:04.640 You can't spend any of the ridiculous money you've got. 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:05.400 What's the point. 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:07.640 Yeah, And I love the fact that Harry's actually hit 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:10.200 out for once and just told everyone basically to fuck 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:11.160 off about blood. 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:12.360 Isn't that dreamy? 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:12.880 Yeah? 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:15.120 Isn't that dreamy? I am so into that. And then 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.080 everyone was like that they've been giving you such a 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:20.680 good media run. Sorry, our whole family is the reason 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:24.200 you can sell a newspaper. You're giving us something. 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:26.520 Princes John has been dead for twenty years and they're 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:28.280 still putting it that she's still making news. 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:31.880 I mean, it's still making news. It truly is disgusting. 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:33.640 And you know, the people in the UK are so 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:37.160 passionate about the royal family and you know, I hazard 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:39.320 to guess that fifty percent of the tourism to London 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:42.000 alone is because of that. Like, what on earth is 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:44.160 going on? I mean the fact that you know, we've 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:46.480 got a plane that our prime minister can fly on 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.880 blah blah blah. They should honestly have a gold jet 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:52.840 with diamond toilet seat, like good on it. You know what. 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:57.920 They've literally got a castle full of relics and diamond 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.920 encrusted this and crowns and whatnot, but we're expecting them 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:04.040 to fly economy. The whole thing, to me weeks of 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:08.280 just this absurd pr play that I just don't think 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:11.160 is necessary. I think it's okay that we all admit 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:15.800 that they are literal royalty, who live in actual castles. 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.480 They are in fact above the average person. And if 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:21.960 they wish to fly private, I think that's okay. 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.560 It's not as if Megan Marker would be flying bloody 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:27.320 economy during her suits days. 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:30.040 So yeah, do you think I think she was oraon? 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:32.120 She was in baggage holes. I think it's the most 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:35.280 stunning turnaround of events. She would have been begging for 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:37.640 the invites to any event, and that pr and La 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:39.560 would have been like, who are you suits? You're not 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:42.480 one of the main people. Sorry, Harvey Specter only. And 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:47.000 now she's called them all back and saying hello, remember me? Yeah, sucker. 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:48.760 I mean, she wouldn't have been able to get into 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.640 Vogue on her best day. Now she's doing a guest 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:54.240 edit because she feels like it. It's the most stunning 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:55.480 turnaround I've ever seen. 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:58.640 Now, Sammy, I'm known for doing the Lord's work, and 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:00.520 one thing that we love is for you keep the 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.600 Cheryls and Susans and Karen's of the world accountable. Can 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:06.160 you explain to our listeners who these type of people are. 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:12.200 Look, they're a very specific subset of human culture. There 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:15.840 are some presumably listening I interchange the names because I 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:18.800 do feel like often they do have different names. I 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:20.760 don't want to think that's only just the one name. 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:24.760 But look as Cheryl, a Susan a Karen. They're usually 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:29.520 working in an accounts payable. They're often at the counter 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.600 of a retail or hospitality ven. You're asking to speak 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:37.639 with the manager immediately. They're usually at school pickup asking 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:41.920 why the hat is missing and demanding answers. They're usually 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:46.639 driving around in a white persia. You know, they're a 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:50.800 very specific group of people. They've commonly got a very 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:55.080 aggressive cross fringe. It could potentially be a box diye. 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:58.440 I can't be sure. They don't mind a color every 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:00.680 now and again. They bought purple, came out more blue 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:04.560 that stine For Cheryl, she doesn't mind. But look, the 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.959 whole thing is just ridiculous, right, Like the whole premise 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:09.560 of what I'm doing is absurd. But it's just there 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:12.760