1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: But as we know, we've obviously seen some pretty terrible 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: situations unfold in our CBD over the weekend. Northern Territory 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: police continuing to investigate the stabbing death of a man 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: in the city in the early hours of Saturday morning. Now, 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: the Lord Mayor of Darwin Convat Scalas joins me in 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: the studio. 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: Morning Corn, Good morning, Kenny Corn. 8 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: This situation where a man was stabbed in the CBD 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: just outside of Wollworths. I mean that location is a 10 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: location that you and I have spoken about on numerous 11 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: occasions as being a high for really bad behavior. I'm 12 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: not going to call it antisocial because in my opinion, 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: it's quite worse than that. 14 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 2: I tend to agree with you, and there certainly they're 15 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: stumbing on Saturday night. It was a terrible incident and 16 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: I believe the person died. The police is still investigating. 17 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 2: But it looks like it's a hot spot and looks 18 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: like that should be more police patrolling that area regularly, 19 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: and also the safety patrols that they've got for the buses. 20 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: I've seen them there some time, but not all the time, 21 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: but again it depends what time it happened. The safety 22 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: but the bus safety patrols would be probably operating that 23 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: time of night, but police probably would and should. 24 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: We got a We did have a call yesterday with Christaine. 25 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: Now Christine works around the city area, and she'd said 26 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: to us that at one point in time there was 27 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: some really like there was security that was sort of 28 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: they almost looked like police, you know, in khaki kind 29 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: of colors, and they were doing a tremendous job. But 30 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: they've not been saying sort of back around that area 31 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 1: for quite some time. Do you know which security group 32 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: that would be or was that a government sort of 33 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: I don't think so. 34 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: They probably could be private one, probably would engaged one. 35 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: But now if you see the people actually there, they 36 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 2: look like public servants and they don't have any equipment 37 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: or anything else. But again, we soon rely on private security. 38 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: If it's a hot spot, I think the police should 39 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: target it and make sure that actually they focus on 40 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: it to eliminate this kind of behavior. 41 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: Con it's not the only incident for the weekends. We 42 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: also know that there was a domestic violence incident that 43 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: came to the fore after one of our listeners had 44 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: been in contact with us and said that something had 45 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: gone on on daily straight the near the service station there. 46 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: But we also know that the INTI News has been 47 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: reporting that there was a large pool of blood in 48 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: our CB day and that. 49 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: Was in Bennett Park. We had not and we had 50 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: a notification from the police about the incident you referred before, 51 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: and we went and cleaned the bus stop area. 52 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: So that's the one that's not that's. 53 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: A different one. That's the first one. But then there 54 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: was another report in the anti newser about the big 55 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: pool of blood in Bennett Park, the park near the 56 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: Parliament House. When we found out about it, the police 57 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: didn't know anything about it and if you see the 58 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: report today, they were not aware of any incident. However, 59 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: we went there and cleaned up the place straight away 60 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: for public safety. You can't just live blood there running down, 61 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: So pity. 62 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: How often is the council public like? How often is 63 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: the council having to clean up? 64 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: Too often? We have to clean up rubbish from people 65 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: that live them behind. We have to clean up casks 66 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: of wine bottles, teams, you name it, bedding, everything. We 67 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: actually regularly clean around the center Link because people find 68 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: the place suitable for public toilets and we have to 69 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: actually pressure cleaned and steam clinicate very regularly. 70 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: When you talk about their being blood around the CBD though, 71 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: you know, all of that is really gross that our 72 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: council workers have to clean up. But then when you're 73 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: talking about blood, it actually, you know, it signifies something 74 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: much more serious that's going on. 75 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: I agree with you, but look, we've got a problem. 76 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: Hopefully the new commissioner will target these areas with more 77 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: people on the streets. I understand he wants to have 78 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: a quick look at the police structure. He wants to 79 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: put more police on the street, and I welcome that one. 80 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: How many times we've been asking here more polish on 81 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: the streets. I remember college more. 82 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: Than that, because the thing is that sort of you know, 83 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: that is like there is no doubt that people are 84 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: being arrested, But do we need more than that? I mean, 85 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: have we reached the situation now, Like you're the mayor 86 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: of the town, and I know that you're really trying 87 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: to promote Dwen as a wonderful, liverable city. This kind 88 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: of thing does not make us seem that way. 89 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: When police in the streets, you don't see this kind 90 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 2: of instance full stop. I know that from experience. I 91 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: came here in the nineties. We usually have acpos, we 92 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: have to police patrols. We usually people on bikes, people 93 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 2: on foot. They were not this kind of incidence now 94 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: because we haven't seen any police patrol in the streets. 95 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: We've got the community patrol, which the government has a 96 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: contract with and council contributes four hundred thousand dollars a year. 97 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: But these people do not have the power to arrest, 98 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: do not have the power to move. It's just something 99 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: that people can see and make them feel comfortable, and 100 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: the perpetrators, if they see, they run away because they 101 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: know somebody we're in the look. 102 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: I get it, and I understand what you were saying, 103 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: same as I spoke to lef and Okiaro earlier this morning. 104 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: I get what she's saying. You know, I get what 105 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: everybody is saying at this point in time. But we'd 106 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: spoken to Gelly yesterday from Stomp Shoes. You know, they 107 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: were in a situation just a couple of weeks ago 108 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: where Leah Bennett, one of her staff members was assaulted 109 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: by well, you didn't read in the newspaper because they 110 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: didn't run ash. We had Leah on the show and 111 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: we spoke to her and how upset she was after 112 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: she'd been bashed by three girls. What's going on is 113 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: utterly disgusting, and what we are seeing around the city 114 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: right now is people feeling unsafe to go into the city. 115 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: I don't know what the answers are, but what I 116 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: know is the community is fed up to the point 117 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: where when you know, we're wondering how much longer this 118 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: bullshit needs to go Onatie. 119 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,799 Speaker 2: Remember we argued about these sharp weapons and the government 120 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 2: reacting on that. We've been asking about review of the 121 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: bail and the government came out and so all the 122 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 2: bail situations. Okay, we're not going to change it. Well, 123 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: it's not. Most of these kids are the commit crimes, 124 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: are wearing a bracelet on their uncle. Okay, So if 125 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 2: these kids have been to the system already and they're 126 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 2: out and the commit crimes again, obviously the bail system 127 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: is not right. It's broken. Somebody has to put the 128 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 2: foot down and says tough, you're going to break to 129 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: prison if you if you bredge bail, you can't be 130 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: out again. You're going somewhere. It probably don't there's not 131 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 2: the right place somewhere. Actually, these kids can go and 132 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 2: be safe, safe for the self. 133 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: Thing has got to happen. Hey, look, something's got to change. 134 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: This is broad coming here and talking about the same 135 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: long all the time, and I'm pretty sure the people 136 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: are there they say, well, everybody asking about that has. 137 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: To change, you know, like that's where they've reached the 138 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: point where they just want something to change. And I 139 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: know that you're the mayor, you're not the Chief Minister, 140 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: Like I get that, but I just I just feel 141 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: like at this point in time, we've got I don't 142 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: know how we do it, but everybody needs to get 143 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: together and actually go this is enough. We've all had enough. 144 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: Now we need to make this place the vibrant, wonderful 145 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: place that it has been. 146 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: Okatie, we can go together and talk about as much 147 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 2: as we like. What we need. We need leadership and 148 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: we need to is to come from the government. Okay, 149 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 2: let's let's cut the bullsheet and talk it straight, all right. 150 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 2: Chief Minister used to come up and make some dis 151 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: toff decisions his election time. If people have felt like that, 152 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: if this letter happen, I'll be really forward. Schip minutes 153 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: to be worried about the political future of my government. 154 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: Now the bail system resort right end of story. We 155 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: asked before the liquor stores to be closed down earlier 156 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: or to open later. Okay, we asked for to put 157 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 2: a limit on purchase of work per day. They do 158 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: it in Western Australia. Why we can't do it here? All? 159 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: The problem we've got at the moment is one reason, 160 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: alcohol and people feeling that nobody can touch them. Little 161 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: kids can go around do whatever they like and nobody 162 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: can touch them. My war was fas one day somebody 163 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: will touch them, and somebody will do something, and everybody 164 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: will be up jumping up and down forgetting that the 165 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: problem is here and we have to address it, deal 166 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: it properly. 167 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: Con cannot just ask you, Look, I don't want to 168 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: focus the whole interview on crime and anti social behavior, 169 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: but can I just ask you very quo in terms 170 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: of you're cleaning up cruise around Darwin City. Who you know? 171 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: My hat goes off to them, because honestly it's bloody 172 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: hard work. But have you seen because we've been getting 173 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: contacted by people saying that there is more criming happening, 174 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: are you saying evidence of that at all? 175 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: Look? I remember seeing chroming in Casurinas, the Mempho Casina 176 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: when I found in our parks a lot of Co 177 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: Cola bottles with coloring it, and I would know anything 178 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: about it until they actually told me it was actually 179 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: buying the spray from the hardware store and chroming. Now 180 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 2: it went off for a while. Obviously again it's coming back. 181 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: I don't know how, because I know very well if 182 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: you got to Bunning's at the big hardware store, your 183 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: o rats that will not sell it to you. And 184 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 2: also they. 185 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: Keep it and stuff that apparently they're doing it with. 186 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 2: Now I know wolis and calls, not woolish behind door. 187 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 2: I don't know about cols. I'm going to check with you. 188 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: But again, somebody buys and somebody give it to them. 189 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 2: Secondary supply. The same with alcohol. How many times we 190 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: said about alcohol secondary supply. You've got the computers there, 191 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: you scan everybody who buys alcohol. How come these computers 192 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: can't tell if somebody buys excessive amount of alcohol per 193 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: week to target the second supply? How difficult it is. 194 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: Obviously somebody thinks it's not important or it's so difficult. 195 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: It's not They do it in other states. We can 196 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: do it here. 197 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: Con Look, I do want to ask you as well. 198 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: We know that the lines would Well, we've had the 199 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: by election. Sam Weston is in, as you knew as counselor. 200 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: What's the process now, Well it. 201 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: Was declared or monday. Some came to the offices and 202 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: I was very pleased to see them and congratulate him. 203 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: Now the lunch world got a third counselor, and I 204 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 2: expect some to be a big active member of our team. 205 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,599 Speaker 2: We're thirteen people there, thirteen members with different ideas representing 206 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 2: the four words, and everybody seems to be coming along 207 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: with things happening in their world, and they asking for 208 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: things to be done bigger and better, good stuff. So Sam, 209 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: you're welcome, and certainly here's to do the training that 210 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: is required by the act. He has our support. We 211 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 2: have to brief him. We saw him around with everything 212 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: is including the toilets, and of course then after he's 213 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 2: worn in he'll become a member of the council. 214 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: Con Before I let you go, Russell has messaged through 215 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: and said, good morning Katie and Crystal. Can you please 216 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: ask the Lord Maya about the road into the dump. 217 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: In some places it's a ten centimeter to a fifteen 218 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: centimeter drop at the side of the Bitchmen. A lot 219 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: of heavy vehicles use this entrance as well as the public. 220 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: I think this is a safety issue, Reckons Russell. 221 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: Thanks Russell, thanks for bringing to my attention. I'll ask 222 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 2: the managers to let me know what's happening there and 223 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: if there's any plan for repair. 224 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: And when combat scarlets we're gonna have to leave it there. 225 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: Good to speak with you. 226 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 2: Thank you, Good morning, you too.