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Speaker 1: The race is on to the WBBL eleven finals and

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Speaker 1: it's going down to the wire.

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Speaker 2: And Air Brilliance, Danny Whiteheart div.

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Speaker 3: Into Elected Site takes Sam's.

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Speaker 1: Stunt Up, New Zealand International and Sydney Six's Superstar A

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Speaker 1: merely o kur is this week's special guest.

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Speaker 4: Oh it's a very good catch. Well. Two time WBBL

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Speaker 4: champion Kirby Short is back at the desk. Tom start

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Speaker 4: from a Leasi is the search. Welcome everybody, Welcome to

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Speaker 4: another edition of the Surge.

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Speaker 1: I'm Adam White and it's great to have Kirby Short

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Speaker 1: back in the studio as we talk all things WBBL.

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Speaker 4: Kirby, welcome back.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, wity lovely to see you.

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Speaker 1: A lot has changed since you were lasting here. In fact,

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Speaker 1: a lot has changed just in the last sort of

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Speaker 5: And I feel like a lot could change in the

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Speaker 3: So we're poised beautifully.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely so as we it at the moment. Who do

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Speaker 5: How could you possibly When we sat down at the

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Speaker 5: top four and that because we're both wrong.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about the thunder and we got that horribly wrong.

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Speaker 5: But I think that's the beauty of this competition is

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Speaker 5: if you look at the lists on a piece of paper,

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Speaker 5: which obviously in cricket never tells the full story or

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Speaker 5: of T twenty cricket in particular is that it can

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Speaker 5: be one or two individual performances that can literally.

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Speaker 3: Take a game away.

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Speaker 5: So we've had so much change across the season, and

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Speaker 5: I love we always find ourselves in this position of

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Speaker 3: So that is the ideal situation.

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Speaker 4: Now we've said it before.

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Speaker 1: You you're wearing multiple hats through this series with your

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Speaker 1: all a cricket victoria and also from a commentary position,

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Speaker 1: and I know you're going around the country to all

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Speaker 4: Are you really enjoying this version of the WBBL this season?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 5: I think it's been nice to kind of tap in

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Speaker 5: which I definitely realized that I missed. I think it's

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Speaker 5: I think sporting environments are so unique like that, so

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Speaker 5: it is, and I think we continue to see this

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Speaker 1: Yes, so some teams have got one game left, some

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Speaker 1: They are the Hobot Hurricanes and again kids Space and

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Speaker 4: So the Hurricanes have certainly locked in this.

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Speaker 1: But when it comes to the finals, with seven wins

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Speaker 5: It's a good time to lose in a bad time

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Speaker 5: great hearing Elise Volani actually sit on the fence as

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Speaker 5: So it's scary if you had if you thought that

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Speaker 5: And classically the class in nature of Natziba Brunch she's

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Speaker 1: Has Indeed, there's no doubt about that. She was so

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Speaker 4: She can actually seriously still play the.

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Speaker 5: There was a time when her and Jess Jonathon were

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Speaker 3: And really red Wine.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Now, I was a bit cheeky and I said to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting because I sort of feel like we've

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Speaker 1: We should also mention Marazone Cap who she's gone now

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Speaker 3: But it's really.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so we've put a ban on talking about the thunder.

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Speaker 5: I haven't forgotten how to play. I'm still pretty good

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Speaker 1: I can almost take the pressure off her rather than

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Speaker 1: There's heaps of hot topics to discuss as we get

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Speaker 1: and you know, I almost bought a Weber during the

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Speaker 4: So we'll see what happens when we get to Boxing

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Speaker 1: But into what I think is a really important thing,

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Speaker 3: To be tough to beat.

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Speaker 5: Isn't she a four hundred plus run season already and

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Speaker 1: Feels that way. All right, this is a tough one.

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Speaker 1: As the number one draft pick. Has she proven that

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Speaker 3: It's tough to measure, this, isn't it. It's a tricky question,

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Speaker 4: It's very tough from Will Taylor put this question in.

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Speaker 5: Well, I am not sure if I can answer whether

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Speaker 5: Has justified is the draft strategy by Rachel Haynes's GM

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Speaker 5: When you look at the numbers in this tournament, with

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Speaker 5: So has she justified the number one pick? She's certainly

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the reality is there's still games to go

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Speaker 3: Girls, get on my back, we're going this way.

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Speaker 5: And I think when you look at the Scorch's success

443
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Speaker 5: and failures across the last couple of seasons, obviously they

444
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Speaker 5: have won a title in this competition, I want to

445
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Speaker 5: say WBBL seven perhaps, and you look to Mooney and

446
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Speaker 5: a Divine as the two key pillars of that success.

447
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Speaker 5: And I think what's been quite understated about how Sophie

448
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Speaker 5: Divine has gone about the last little bit. We love

449
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Speaker 5: a stat here, WYI, so we're going to roll with

450
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Speaker 5: a couple. Her first five matches five wickets and only

451
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Speaker 5: seventeen runs, the last four matches seven wickets and one

452
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Speaker 5: hundred and sixty three runs. We talked about Natziba Brunt

453
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Speaker 5: back ending the tournament and finding form at the right time,

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Speaker 5: and you just feel like the Scorches skipper, whether it's

455
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Speaker 5: a little bit of a lag from the World Cup

456
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Speaker 5: and the energy sap that that is, knowing she's walking

457
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Speaker 5: into a tournament, that she's such a proud performer and

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Speaker 5: she's a leader in I think what we'll get the

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Speaker 5: Scorches across the line is the fact that those contributions

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Speaker 5: are a bit more diversified. So it's not just off

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Speaker 5: the bat of Beth Mooney that the Scorches are going

462
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Speaker 5: to win fixtures. As you say, it's those statement moments

463
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Speaker 5: from Sophie Divine where she does something remarkable and it's

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Speaker 5: almost that sometimes leaders use words. Sometimes leaders use actions,

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Speaker 5: and in the last four fixtures it's almost been I mean,

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Speaker 5: I'm sure there's some choice words because she usually drops

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Speaker 5: a couple of those in a pre match speech Sophie Divine,

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Speaker 5: but it's been largely actions.

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Speaker 3: Follow me.

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Speaker 5: We need more in the power play, we need more

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Speaker 5: through the middle of the innings and then you start

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Speaker 5: to see Frey Kemp do a little bit more.

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Speaker 3: Beth Mooney is always consistent.

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Speaker 5: They probably haven't yet seen the best of Katie Mack

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Speaker 5: and Beth Mooney at the top either, so there's still

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Speaker 5: room for them to improve. But Sophie Divine, alongside who

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Speaker 5: we know is the ultimate problem solver, as I heard

478
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Speaker 5: her referred to in our last episode, Beth Mooney, I

479
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Speaker 5: think their capacity to continue to contribute in big moments

480
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Speaker 5: will then free up others to play their role as

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Speaker 5: opposed to needing to be the person. And that's when

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Speaker 5: we've seen the Scorches at their best.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget to Amelia Kerr our special guest shortly, but

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Speaker 1: as we continue our burning questions brought to you by Weber,

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Speaker 1: Hailey Matthews factor the fact that she hasn't been able

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Speaker 1: to come across for the tournament this year.

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Speaker 4: Is such a dominant player.

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Speaker 1: Is it just the reality that they haven't been able

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Speaker 1: to cover her at all in the end the Renegades,

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Speaker 1: They've tried a number of different combinations at the top,

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Speaker 1: but so close to the tournament to lose her, it

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Speaker 1: feels like it's having its.

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Speaker 4: Impact now on them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's an interesting question, I think, because is it

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Speaker 5: her absence or it's almost that intangible. One is that

496
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Speaker 5: you could talk about her numbers, but they actually weren't damaging.

497
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Speaker 5: If you actually unpacked her contribution last season, it'd be

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Speaker 5: a runnaball fifty. It'd be a couple of really critical overs.

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Speaker 5: She's a wonderful leader and has this sense of calmness

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Speaker 5: and composure about her. She was the player of the

501
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Speaker 5: final to be fair as well. But I think in

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Speaker 5: not being disrespectful to how she went about it last season,

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Speaker 5: they weren't these huge performances or damaging innings. It was

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Speaker 5: just the balance that she provided the lineup. So I

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Speaker 5: think it's less about the actual numbers and it's more

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Speaker 5: about knowing that she's in your side and you've got

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Speaker 5: another person that will stand up in those big moments.

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Speaker 5: I actually think if we looked at Georgia Wareham's performances

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Speaker 5: this season, they're probably better from an all round numbers

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Speaker 5: perspective than what Hailey Matthews was producing last year. And

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Speaker 5: Georgia warehams obviously played a role as a leader in

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Speaker 5: the renegade environment too very seamlessly, might I add in

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Speaker 5: coming in for Somol and you when she's sort of

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Speaker 5: managing her injury. So it's interesting because is it that

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Speaker 5: Hailey Matthews isn't there as a cricketer, or is it

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Speaker 5: that Hailey Matthews isn't there to kind of balance out

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Speaker 5: that team? And I think in conjunction with that, the

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Speaker 5: domestic players in that setup just haven't had as good

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Speaker 5: a year. So is that correlating to not having Hailey

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Speaker 5: Matthews or is it a completely separate thing. And the

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Speaker 5: likes of a Courtney web at the top of the

522
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Speaker 5: order just hasn't struck the ball as well as she

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Speaker 5: would have liked. She's struggled the last couple of innings

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Speaker 5: after having a breakout year really last year. So it

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Speaker 5: says those couple of other contributors that probably are missing

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Speaker 5: as well. And probably so if Molin you feeling like

527
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Speaker 5: she's bouncing in and out a little bit too, which

528
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Speaker 5: is a really tricky predicament. And then to your point,

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Speaker 5: the internationals that have come in and they need it

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Speaker 5: too to replace Hailey Matthews probably haven't quite come off either.

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Speaker 5: At dav Perrin at the top had sort of I

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Speaker 5: think five opportunities to start the season, and it's a

533
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Speaker 5: big ask for an eighteen year old who's only played

534
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Speaker 5: in England, who had one incredible knock in the hundred

535
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Speaker 5: and attracted all of this attention. But the conditions are

536
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Speaker 5: really different here. It's a different cultural experience, she's a

537
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Speaker 5: young kid, there's a lot going on, so maybe those

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Speaker 5: things haven't quite landed either. And probably Alice Capsy is

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Speaker 5: the other one that i'd point to. She's been great

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Speaker 5: with the ball, but again probably had a couple of

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Speaker 5: starts and hasn't gone on with it. So I think

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Speaker 5: in the absence of Hailey Matthews, everyone needed to be

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Speaker 5: just a little bit better, and I think in some

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Speaker 5: cases they probably haven't been as.

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Speaker 3: Good as they were.

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Speaker 5: That puts some little bit further behind where they probably

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Speaker 5: Simon Hellott would have liked them to be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's still a mathematical chance of making it,

549
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Speaker 4: but it is getting difficult. So it does take us to.

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Speaker 1: Our final burning question, brought to you by Weather, which

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Speaker 1: is all about the advantage to finish.

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Speaker 4: On top and how it all sits at the moment.

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Speaker 1: So I'm looking at the ladder here, Hobart currently way

554
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Speaker 1: out on top really with fourteen Premiership points, and then

555
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Speaker 1: you've got the Stars and Sixers on eleven, and then

556
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Speaker 1: the Scorches ten, the Strikers and the Renegade's eight. But

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Speaker 1: the difference is, and this is what makes it in confusing,

558
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Speaker 1: is that Sixers have two games left, so two to

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Speaker 1: the Strikers. So while Hobart is three points clear of

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Speaker 1: everybody else, if they drop their last game and the

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Speaker 1: Sixers win their last two, they actually go to top.

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Speaker 4: The way the finals is.

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Speaker 1: Configured, it's such an advantage to finish on top of

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Speaker 1: the table.

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Speaker 5: It's a really unique final structure, isn't it. If When

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Speaker 5: you can't see a graphic of it, it's going to

567
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Speaker 5: sound really wordy, but essentially one goes straight through and

568
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Speaker 5: then three hosts three versus four, and then two hosts

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Speaker 5: the winner of that and then one just sits pretty for.

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Speaker 3: A week and waits for all the people.

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Speaker 2: To roll in.

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Speaker 1: But I like that because it puts a premium on

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Speaker 1: finishing on top after everyone's played ten games. I do

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Speaker 1: like that because I think too often in any sport,

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Speaker 1: when you have a home and away season and then

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Speaker 1: you have one bad final and it's all over.

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Speaker 4: If it's a one v four, two v three, and

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Speaker 4: it's sort of a traditional form peel, that's not fair.

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Speaker 4: So I like the way it's set up.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's two schools of thought around is

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Speaker 5: the ultimate advantage finishing first, because you literally have a

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Speaker 5: whole week off, And I remember hearing Sophie Mullen you

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Speaker 5: talk about how the Renegades approached that last year and

584
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Speaker 5: they almost tried to have really big team training sessions

585
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Speaker 5: to align with the days they would have played had

586
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Speaker 5: they not finished first. So you get to be at

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Speaker 5: home and have all the creature comforts and all the routine.

588
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Speaker 5: But with the such intense schedule, not having a game

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Speaker 5: in that entire week, for some that would actually be

590
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Speaker 5: disruptive to what feels like a decent routine and intensity

591
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Speaker 5: of competition and performance. So I think the benefit probably

592
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Speaker 5: sits in finishing first or second in this competition, because

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Speaker 5: some teams would like to have just that one more

594
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Speaker 5: game where you have the opportunity to play. So I

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Speaker 5: think there is a huge advantage in finishing first, and

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Speaker 5: as you say, recognizes that you've actually earned the right

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Speaker 5: to go straight through to the Big Dance because you've

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Speaker 5: been the best team all year. So I really like that,

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Speaker 5: and I wouldn't be mad whether I finish first or

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Speaker 5: second because as second, you still get to host, so

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Speaker 5: you get the majority of the week at home. Someone

602
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Speaker 5: comes to you. You haven't quite earned the right to

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Speaker 5: go straight through to the final, so there is that

604
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Speaker 5: final hurdle to cross and if you've got momentum at

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Speaker 5: the right time, and maybe it'll end up being the

606
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Speaker 5: Sixers that finish second. If the Hurricanes get the business

607
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Speaker 5: done in their final match of the season, then they

608
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Speaker 5: do have that momentum and maybe would like to have

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Speaker 5: that final hit out on the Thursday before trying to

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Speaker 5: win through to the final on the Saturday.

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Speaker 3: So I think huge advantage for first.

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Speaker 5: It's quite a unique setup and I quite like that,

613
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Speaker 5: but I also would be okay if I finished second

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Speaker 5: and just had one more hit during the week.

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Speaker 4: A double chance though for anyone.

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Speaker 1: Really that's what makes it such a I think a

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Speaker 1: unique and really effective final series and what a premium

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Speaker 1: now in the last home and away fixture for the

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Speaker 1: Hurricanes because if they win it, they know they're into

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Speaker 1: a home finals, so so much to play for there

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Speaker 1: as well. So they were the burning questions brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Weber. But it is now time to hit

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Speaker 1: with two great mates. Really when we talk about Amelia

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Speaker 1: Kerr and also Kirby Short as I said, she's one

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Speaker 1: of the stars of the competition, she's one of the

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Speaker 1: stars of world cricket.

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Speaker 4: Amelia Kerr. She's going to join us next on the

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Speaker 4: Surge and welcome back to the Surgeon with Adam White

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Speaker 4: and Kirby Short.

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Speaker 1: Well. Our special guest is a very special friend of yours, Kirby.

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Speaker 1: So I'm actually going to you to introduce not only

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Speaker 1: a special friend of yours, but one of the best

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Speaker 1: players in the entire WIBBL.

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Speaker 5: That's a hot question, without notice, Whitey, she is a

635
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Speaker 5: special friend of mine. I think where Amelia Kerr is concerned,

636
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Speaker 5: you have to talk about the person first. I think

637
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Speaker 5: you talk about her as a teammate and a very

638
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Speaker 5: nearly future leader of New Zealand cricket and potentially the

639
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Speaker 5: best all rounded that their country will ever produce, and

640
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Speaker 5: one of the best we'll ever.

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Speaker 3: See in the world.

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Speaker 5: So I think as a human, she's selfless, she's humble,

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Speaker 5: she's incredibly talented, she's wonderful to the people that matter

644
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Speaker 5: to her and also to any teammate that she's ever

645
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Speaker 5: in a team with. And then it also happens that

646
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Speaker 5: she's a particularly outstanding all round cricketer, bowls incredible leg

647
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Speaker 5: breaks as a remarkable googly and continues to climb up

648
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Speaker 5: the order for New Zealand and then all of the

649
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Speaker 5: other teams that she.

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Speaker 3: Plays in, and she's playing in leagues all around the world.

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Speaker 5: She's being picked up in franchise cricket because of that

652
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Speaker 5: capacity she has as an all around skill set. And

653
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Speaker 5: she's also a T twenty World Cup winner. So there's

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Speaker 5: a few things on her wrap that they're just off

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Speaker 5: the top of my head.

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Speaker 4: Well, Amelily Kurkr that is it's a big introduction.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very kind of Kirby.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I am very fortunate actually that the first

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Speaker 6: year of my w BBO career at Brisbane Kirby was

660
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 6: the captain and I still say to this day she's

661
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 6: one of, if not the best captains I ever had.

662
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 6: And I think that was probably you know, I'm obviously

663
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 6: at the sixers now, but I think starting my career

664
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 6: in Big Besh at Brisbane was a real blessing with

665
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 6: the people we had around us and just so many,

666
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 6: just so many good people. And you know, Kirby says

667
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 6: all those nice things, but you know what I've learned

668
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 6: from her over the years, and.

669
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: She's the same. It's the person. So she can give

670
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 2: compliments and I can give them back.

671
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: Well, So talk to me about Kirby's influence on you,

672
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: as it said, as a young player making your way

673
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: in the WBBL from New Zealand, the importance to have

674
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: that really strong foundation to give you the confidence to

675
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: become essentially the player that you've become.

676
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 6: I think what I remember really early on is actually

677
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 6: I came over to Brisbane for a week just to

678
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 6: train with the group before, like.

679
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 2: In August or something, and I remember going to.

680
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 6: A club cricket game and just Kirby took the time

681
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 6: to just chat to me and we didn't talk about cricket,

682
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 6: and I think I love that because I, yes, I've

683
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 6: done cricket from such a young age, playing for New

684
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 6: zeal And at sixteen. It's something that's very easy to

685
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 6: talk to someone about because you know that's a big

686
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 6: part in their world.

687
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 2: But she was more interested in me and my other interests.

688
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 6: And at that time I was studying and studying education

689
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,239
Speaker 6: and sociology, and then there's that common interest where at

690
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 6: the time Kirby was teaching. I come from a family

691
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 6: of teachers, so I think one was the value we

692
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 6: both shared and really wanting to help people. So I

693
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 6: remember that interaction because it was just more than the

694
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 6: cricketer and it was about the person. And then from there,

695
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 6: you know, that year we won the title, and I

696
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 6: think the calmness under pressure, the clarity of roles and

697
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 6: how she made people feel, the ability to get around

698
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 6: everyone to feel back. But it was yeah, it was

699
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 6: obviously the tactical, the decision making, being calm under pressure,

700
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 6: but that was all because of the work she did

701
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 6: off field and the person of being able to build

702
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 6: those relationships and connections to feel valued and trusted.

703
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 4: Fantastic insights. It feels like this is your life.

704
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 3: I was to make her uncomfortable rather than me, but

705
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 3: you both felt comfortable.

706
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: So look, this is it's great that you've been able

707
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: to join us and we will absolutely talk about the

708
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: sixes because you're going really well after a bit of

709
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: a bumpy rider at times through the first half of

710
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: the time. You mentioned it before, Amelia about playing cricket

711
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: in New Zealand at sixteen, and I guess the pressures

712
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,919
Speaker 1: and the expectation that comes with that when you're still

713
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: working out about yourself, let alone you as a cricketer.

714
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 1: What was it like on the on the big stage

715
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: at such a young age.

716
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 4: And doing so well early on?

717
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't really see it as a big stage

718
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: in a weird way.

719
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 6: It was always from a young age my childhood dream

720
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 6: to play for New Zealand, and yeah, for me, I

721
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 6: didn't see it as a big stage. And I think

722
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 6: that's because my family has just been so big on

723
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 6: always having other things in your life, and I've.

724
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 2: Always just cared about how I treat people.

725
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 6: More than any success, because I, yes, you know, success

726
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 6: comes and goes in sport. You have good days, you

727
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 6: have bad days, and yeah, I was just living out

728
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 6: my childhood dream and doing the sport I love and

729
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 6: that so I think from a.

730
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: Young age how simple it was.

731
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 6: And then I have this competitive side that I wanted

732
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 6: to be the best. I want to compete. I want

733
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 6: to be in the playing eleven. So then when I'm

734
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 6: on the field and at training, I'm working hard to

735
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 6: be the best I can be.

736
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: I'll be getting my kids to listen to that response.

737
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: I think there's some great life lessons in all of that.

738
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: And then so the extension of that, then, Amelia, is

739
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: everyone has a dream to play for their country, and

740
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: you've done it at sixteen, So there are some that

741
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: achieve a lot when they're very Youngly are Okay, I've

742
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: done it. Now what do I do now to be

743
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: able to sort of keep that fire burning and keep

744
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: little targets for you to reach along the way.

745
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 4: I'm really interested in what that process is in your mind.

746
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: I've got a really close relationship with my dad and

747
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 2: he's never coached me.

748
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 6: He's thrown me a lot of balls and caught a

749
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 6: lot of balls, but he's never coached me tactically. But

750
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 6: we've talked a lot about life and cricket, and i's

751
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 6: the mental side of the game. And I remember him

752
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 6: and I were like sitting at a cafe when I

753
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 6: was young, just setting goals about how I wanted to

754
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,439
Speaker 6: be a white fan and I made the white things

755
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 6: and I remember him saying to me, it would have

756
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 6: probably been before I played for New Zealand.

757
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: Was a lot of players have.

758
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 6: Goals and they so they played for New Zealand's and

759
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 6: then it's then what And it was kind of for

760
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 6: me it was like, yes, I want to play for

761
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 6: New Zealand tip, but I want to be a great one.

762
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: I want to be a great New Zealand.

763
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 6: Cricketer and then I want to be one of the

764
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 6: best in the world. And still to this day, I

765
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 6: feel I'm not close to being one of the best

766
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 6: in the world. So for me, I'm striving to keep

767
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 6: getting better to be one of the best.

768
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 4: Fascinating, fascinating.

769
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: Now I'm dominating this, but I'm going to ask one

770
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: more because then I want you to take over Kirby

771
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: and ask a lot of questions. So being a leg spinner,

772
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: having this amazing wrong and where did you learn that?

773
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: Did you watch watching TV and seeing your heroes do

774
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: it was the something your dad did. I'm just fascinated

775
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: as to a young girl growing up in New Zealand

776
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: to bowl leg spin and to have all the all

777
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: the trickery that goes with it.

778
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 4: Where did it come from?

779
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

780
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 6: Les, Like fortunately, it kind of just came about like naturally.

781
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 6: But obviously it's very hard, so it wasn't too natural.

782
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 6: But yeah, I was macking around. I'm trying to bowl spin.

783
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 6: Dad thought it was quite good. Jess and I were

784
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 6: just bowling in the backyard. So from then on I

785
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 6: started training to bowl league spin and got into a

786
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 6: really good coach called Ivan Sarah when I was about

787
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 6: eleven years old, and I worked with him so much

788
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 6: on my bowling. And you know, there'd big days when

789
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 6: I was a kid, go to the nets and I

790
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 6: bowl and you hit the top of the roof, and

791
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 6: I was just like, why am I bowling this? I

792
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 6: could bowl a little medium pace and hit the stumps.

793
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 6: That seems a lot more simpler, But I wasn't going

794
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 6: to go anywhere with that. And yeah, the league spin

795
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 6: leg spin was nice. And I got to a certain

796
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 6: age where I think, because you're so young, the ball

797
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 6: is probably too big. I'm flexible. My hands were so

798
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 6: small that I accidentally started bowling robins, So you know,

799
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 6: I'd bowl one and it would bounce back and hit

800
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 6: someone and I had no idea which way the ball going.

801
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 6: So then I talked to my coach about how I

802
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 6: was doing that on the weekends when I was playing,

803
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 6: and we then just learned and played around with it

804
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 6: and how to make it easy to bowl, and then

805
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 6: we kind of over exaggerated that and then move forward

806
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 6: into disguising it fantastic was that.

807
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 5: Let's keep going down that road for a second, because

808
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 5: now I'm curious, once you refine the art of it,

809
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 5: and you're such a thoughtful cricket e merely how do

810
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 5: you then? How do you use it now? How would

811
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 5: you describe how you use that tool now in a plan?

812
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it is interesting and I find it changes

813
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 6: actually sometimes each day or each game.

814
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: Like at the start of this tournament, I, you know,

815
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 2: only two games I played, but I.

816
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 6: Felt like my wrong and wasn't coming out very well

817
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 6: at all, and that my league spinner was a lot better.

818
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 6: So I kind of resorted more to bowling more league

819
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 6: spin And I think that comes off the back of

820
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 6: a fifty over world cut wanting to bowl more league spinners.

821
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 6: So predominantly practicing my league spin bowling, and then recently.

822
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 2: In the nets.

823
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 6: I guess at this time I've just been trying to

824
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 6: bowl a lot of wrongins because I haven't loved the

825
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 6: feel as of late, and I feel like I've got

826
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 6: my wrong in going again.

827
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 2: So it's a bit of matchups to betters to fields

828
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 2: I have.

829
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 6: You know, sometimes you're bowling for big cross breeze going

830
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 6: to the league side at a short North Sydney oval

831
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 6: and I'm thinking, is the wrong and the best ball here?

832
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: Probably not.

833
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 3: I think it's you talk to about.

834
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 5: It is a lot about you know, conditions and assessing things,

835
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 5: and I love how articulate Meal is with this is

836
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 5: the situation, this is it's a feel thing as much

837
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 5: as it's the default. The default answer then would have been, well,

838
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 5: depending on the person I'm bowling to, depending on the

839
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 5: ground I'm playing on. But sometimes it's actually about feel too,

840
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 5: which is pretty cool.

841
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

842
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 5: Absolutely, that relentlessness that you have to kind of keep

843
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 5: seeking to be better merely that I'm not yet the

844
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 5: best in the world. I want to keep aspiring to

845
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 5: be the best in the world. Where do you think

846
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 5: that came from? Is that a nature thing, a nurture thing.

847
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like I think, one, I've grown up in

848
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 6: this amazing family, and when people say who are your

849
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 6: role models? Growing up thinking to say famous people, I've

850
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 6: always said my family members, And it's like if I

851
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 6: said a famous person, then I'm saying they're my role

852
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 6: model because.

853
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 2: Of just what they do.

854
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 6: Want to say a sports feel Whereas I saw each

855
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 6: day the traits and values that my family kind of

856
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 6: live by.

857
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 2: And I think in a way that relielessless comes from

858
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: my mum and my boat.

859
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 6: Both my parents are amazing, and my dad's got this

860
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 6: real calmness and wisdom and just knowing can say a

861
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 6: bad word about him. He's so level. And then I

862
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 6: think my mom is just this incredibly strong woman who's

863
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 6: you know, I've bought a lot of battles in life.

864
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 6: She said breast cancer twice, and you know, she had

865
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 6: a sporting career paid for Wellington and cricket and nickel

866
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 6: and grew up with not much money. So and have

867
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 6: the opportunity to then go to a camp when he

868
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 6: Zella and that she was invited for. And I see

869
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 6: her every day like she's still exercises, she does her

870
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 6: job and she'll work all hours. So I think from

871
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 6: May I've seen hard work in my family and especially

872
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 6: I think my mum is a female and just yeah,

873
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 6: her resilience, it's being massive.

874
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 5: The other thing you talk about your family promoting for

875
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 5: you is that value of things outside of cricket and

876
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 5: just hearing you talk about the balance and the relationships.

877
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 2: That you have.

878
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 5: What what are those things that are key for you

879
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 5: to be your best self on the field, that you

880
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 5: spend time and invest in off the field, that make

881
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 5: the biggest difference for you being such a well rounded

882
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 5: human at such a young age.

883
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's for me, it's changed over the years. When

884
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 6: I first made the White Firms, I was at school,

885
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 6: so there was just balance naturally. By when I come home,

886
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 6: I go to school and then finishing school, I did

887
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 6: a bit of part time study, but it was all

888
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 6: correspondence and right and now I do work with a

889
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 6: mental health charity back home. But as well as those scenes,

890
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 6: it's just having cobbies that I enjoy doing outside of cricket.

891
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 6: But I think me like two of my biggest things

892
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 6: is like nature exercises one, but it's.

893
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 2: Technically part of our job.

894
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 6: But yeah, being in nature and family is everything for me,

895
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 6: and family isn't blood related. It's also also friends who

896
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 6: are like family. And yeah, for me, it's just people

897
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 6: and surrounding myself with good people. I think that fills

898
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 6: my cup messably.

899
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: So the extension of that, then, I guess, is to

900
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: talk about Sophie Devine and the role that she's had

901
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: in your career. We know her here in Australia as

902
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: a wonderful player in the WBBL, but we also know

903
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: her as a supersit New Zealand player that you've played

904
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: sort of under her wing.

905
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 4: What what's she been like in I don't know, guiding

906
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 4: you but also being that person that's been so central

907
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 4: to so much success in New Zealand cricket.

908
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 2: I think the coolest thing about so.

909
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 6: Speak of role models, and I think when you look

910
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 6: at role models, you want like a relatability piece. And

911
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 6: with Sophie, she grew up in the same suburb that

912
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 6: I grew up in, which was a pretty small suburb

913
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 6: in Wellington and seen as one of the schools there

914
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 6: as I guess, less opportunity or not much going on.

915
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 6: And she grew up in that small suburb, she played

916
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 6: boys cricket. She went to the same high school as me.

917
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 6: You know, she played for Wellington when she was fourteen,

918
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 6: as did I. The White Ferns similar My dad actually

919
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 6: was her first coach for Wellington, so she used to

920
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 6: babysit myself and Jess. So I think that's a pretty

921
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 6: cool connection. And then because of that her being from

922
00:45:53,680 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 6: Wellington and specifically from Tawer, I actually always didn't I

923
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 6: didn't see women's crickets, but I knew who she was

924
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 6: and so that probably helped me believe that one day

925
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 6: I could be a White Fern as well. And I

926
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 6: think that's been I think of that when I was young,

927
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 6: and it's you see now that we're on TV. Young

928
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 6: girls can see that this can be a real career option,

929
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 6: and now it's Soph and the White Ferns. I think

930
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 6: over the years seeing her grow as well, she's continued

931
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 6: to get better and I've seen her grow also as

932
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 6: a leader, and I think she's just been exceptional at

933
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 6: World Cups as of late if you look at her

934
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 6: World Cup record, and the thing that I have recently

935
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 6: loved the most about Soph's leadership is her ability to

936
00:46:53,400 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 6: bring in today Malti and Malory into our Maori slack

937
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 6: Pappa into our culture with the white films, because you know,

938
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 6: they're obviously are our indigenous people and we wouldn't be

939
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 6: I guess where we are without them. And there's some

940
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 6: beautiful parts to their culture that relate to sport. And

941
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 6: I think when you're representing your New Zealand, you're representing

942
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 6: all of New Zealand and that's a massive part of

943
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 6: who we are.

944
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 2: So I think that takes.

945
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 6: Like you've got to be open minded, you've got to

946
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 6: educate yourself and you've got to learn.

947
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 2: And that's been pretty cool to see her bring that

948
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 2: into our environment.

949
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: Imagine having Sophie Divine as your babysitter. Sure I had

950
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: that round watching TV. Can we go and play a

951
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: bit more cricket and stap a bit later? That's a

952
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: that's very special.

953
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 5: Throat outs exactly, multi perfect and merely you're a future

954
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 5: leader of that White Ferns group. You talk about the

955
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 5: presence and importance of culture, obviously your love of your

956
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 5: own family and creating that family type belonging feel in

957
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 5: the team. What does Amelia cur look like as a leader,

958
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 5: whether that's the White Ferns, whether that's a team in

959
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 5: a T twenty franchise competition.

960
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 3: How would you describe yourself as a leader.

961
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 2: I guess.

962
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 6: For me, I've always liked to say you can be

963
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 6: a leader without a title. For me, I want to

964
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 6: make people feel good. I want people to feel valued

965
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 6: and feel as though they belong because I think if

966
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 6: they feel valued and if they feel like they belong

967
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 6: in this in an environment, you're going to get the

968
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 6: best out of them. So in that regard, I'm a

969
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 6: real encourager, but not a not a bullshit and current encourager,

970
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 6: Like it's got to be real and authentic as well.

971
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 6: And the other one is still sitting in your own

972
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 6: standards really high, because I think if you set standards

973
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 6: and what you want to achieve, but more in the

974
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 6: process of work, effort, or just how you treat people,

975
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 6: how you leave the changing room when you play at

976
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:15,959
Speaker 6: the ground people people also follow that, and I guess

977
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 6: there is the whole inspiring. I think firstly inspiring your

978
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 6: teammates to want to play for more than just a

979
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 6: result for a game. And for me, I always go

980
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 6: back to one of my favorite quotes, which is in

981
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 6: tod Unmoori and That's how me and Ranta, which means

982
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 6: what is the most important thing in the world.

983
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 2: It is the people. It is the people. It is

984
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 2: the people. And I think for me that is it

985
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 2: comes down to.

986
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 6: You know, you're representing yourself, but you're representing your family,

987
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 6: your friends, the people who have helped you get to

988
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 6: where you.

989
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 2: Are along your journey.

990
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 6: You're playing for where your teammates that are next to

991
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 6: you you go through the good and the band together.

992
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 2: And that you know, there's just there's just so much

993
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: more to.

994
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 6: Cricket than cricket, and that what we have this opportunity

995
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 6: to do actually can mean so much more than just

996
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 6: a bet and the ball.

997
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: All right, don't worry about Sophie de vine Emelly, can

998
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: you come and baby sit my kids because they need

999
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: to hear.

1000
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 5: These I was just going to shift a step a

1001
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 5: little merely to the WBBL. You obviously had an incredible

1002
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 5: personal outcome in the recent WPL auction, and you're involved

1003
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 5: in the hundred as well. You're playing in tournaments all

1004
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 5: around the world, but you've been in the WBL for

1005
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 5: a long period of time.

1006
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 3: What is it that you really love about this competition?

1007
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 2: I love Australia.

1008
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 6: Firstly, I think because it's very similar to home, just

1009
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 6: the weather's a whole lot better, So that's a tick.

1010
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 6: But in terms of w BBR, I think it's the competition.

1011
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 6: The standard of this comp I still think is the

1012
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 6: best around the world compared to other franchises. And again,

1013
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 6: like throughout the years, making so many great friendships along

1014
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 6: the way, I felt like I've learned and grown a

1015
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 6: lot through this competition from other players. You pick little

1016
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 6: things up, like you talk about that drive to keep

1017
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 6: on being the best. I think at least Perry is

1018
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 6: the best example of that. I've learned so much from

1019
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 6: working with different coaches as well, so I think, yeah,

1020
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:51,479
Speaker 6: it's such a great competition. I think for developing your game,

1021
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 6: I've learned so much over the years and it's a

1022
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 6: really competitive and I think that's what I love the

1023
00:51:58,640 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 6: most about this camp.

1024
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 5: Let's talk about some of those remarkable cricketers and humans

1025
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 5: that sit in that six's environment. Now that's where you've

1026
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 5: been for a couple of years. You talk about Alice Perry.

1027
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 5: She's a standout in terms of work ethic and has

1028
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 5: been since day one of her professional career. You couldn't

1029
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 5: possibly argue with that. You obviously have a remarkable work ethic.

1030
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 5: So what is it when you look at her, when

1031
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 5: you interact with her in a team environment, whether it's training.

1032
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 3: Or off field and preparation, what is it that you

1033
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 3: learn from her?

1034
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 6: I think everything she does, she's so diligent. She loves training.

1035
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 6: I think out of any cricket I've met, she loves

1036
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 6: training the most.

1037
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: And so.

1038
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think her purpose to.

1039
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 6: And her training and how she goes about it, and

1040
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 6: there's just such focus and all that she does. Like

1041
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 6: when she turns out to training, she knows exactly what

1042
00:52:59,080 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 6: she's doing.

1043
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 2: And I think I think the.

1044
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 6: Thing that I'm most impressed by is, like you think

1045
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 6: of her and her career achieved, how many World Cup

1046
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 6: she has won with Australia, Like to have that drive

1047
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 6: considering all that she has done in her career is

1048
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 6: pretty incredible. Her and I kind of spoke about batting though,

1049
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 6: like batting training it's like meditation for us as well.

1050
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 6: I think, you know, sometimes I think at training and

1051
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 6: batting is freeing.

1052
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 2: You know, you sometimes have a lot of thoughts about

1053
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 2: life for the world or whatever it may be.

1054
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 6: And when you go to training in your back, it's

1055
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 6: just as simple as watching the ball, and it's that

1056
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,439
Speaker 6: becomes like meditation. And I think she has that same

1057
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 6: kind of feeling with batting. It's a happy place as well.

1058
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 6: So yes, you're wanting to get better at something, but

1059
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 6: it's pure enjoyment.

1060
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 2: It's meditation and it is a happy for her.

1061
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: So when you're at training with Alisa, or there's also Alesa,

1062
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 1: there's also Ash, there's there's a number of superstars in

1063
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: your team. Does it get competitive a training where you

1064
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: are trying to almost out to each other when there's

1065
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: so many stars all wearing the magenta? Or is a

1066
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: very much very team environment. Everyone's very encouraging and very positive.

1067
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 6: I think they're like they're really professional people. They go

1068
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 6: in and they get their work done and they know

1069
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 6: what they need. Yeah, they get their work done and

1070
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 6: they know what they need. And they're probably more scial

1071
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 6: I think he is as well. She's more of like

1072
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 6: a silent trainer. She turns out and she does her work.

1073
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 6: Whereas you know, when I'm bowling to say Kieva in

1074
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 6: the net and she's got a bit of a personality,

1075
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 6: I'm just I'm just having a good chet to her

1076
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 6: because it's good fun and I think it's still important

1077
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,919
Speaker 6: to find enjoyment and be able to have a laugh

1078
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 6: when you're at training and not always take things super seriously.

1079
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 6: But yeah, unfortunately, when you've got those like three big

1080
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 6: dogs and the sexes, you're sitting there waiting to pair

1081
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 6: that watching me in there can.

1082
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: Take a little while we've been trying to out do

1083
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: each other, or I think just just sit back and

1084
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: watch and enjoy the show.

1085
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 3: That's it.

1086
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 5: The really interesting thing about that Six's team and forever

1087
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 5: there's been the three big dogs at the Sixes. I

1088
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 5: think one of the biggest impact players this year really

1089
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 5: is a good friend of yours, Maitland Brown. And I

1090
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 5: think something I probably should have included in my introduction

1091
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 5: is Merely's capacity on a guitar as well. There's a

1092
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 5: couple of points of creative intersection between.

1093
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 3: Merely and Maitland.

1094
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 5: Tell us a bit about her as a human because

1095
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 5: I can't imagine she's a silent training type, but also

1096
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 5: from a cricket perspective, what switch has flicked for her?

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00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 5: Because she's been outstanding this season.

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00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, she's been awesome, and yeah she's a really good

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00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 6: friend of mine, Maitland, and.

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00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's not much she can't do.

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00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 6: She's so creative, so yeah, her mind's going and she's

1102
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 6: always got a project or she's working on something, which

1103
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 6: is which is pretty cool. But yeah, I know that

1104
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 6: last year she struggled a bit during Big Best. She

1105
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 6: didn't have a huge role at all for the Sixes,

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00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 6: and I kind of saw her in the nets and

1107
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 6: just thought she's talented, like she's she's got a bit

1108
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 6: about it, and so when I went home to Wellington,

1109
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 6: I suggested that we sign her for the Blaze.

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00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 2: For the supersmassion.

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00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 6: I thought there's a lot of talent that I saw,

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00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 6: but it was almost like the clarity and the feeling

1113
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 6: if you don't have a role on the side, you

1114
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 6: don't really feel backed or or that you're good enough.

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00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 2: And so from what I saw in the nets, I

1116
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 2: knew that we came to.

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00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 6: Wellington, gave her a big role and encouraged her to

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00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 6: play that role and help with Vegas clarity, that she

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00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 6: have a real impact. And I think even though you

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00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 6: know the standard's probably not as good as Big Bash,

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00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 6: it still shows that you do things well anywhere it

1122
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 6: can work at any level and I.

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00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: Think you know New South Wales they have a big

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00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 2: pre season.

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00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 6: She's strong and that she's running and hard, and I

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00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,439
Speaker 6: just think she's got way more belief in her game

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00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,439
Speaker 6: with both bat and ball, and she's become really clear

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00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 6: I think in her options.

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00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 2: I think if you look at last season when she bettered.

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00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 6: She probably looked a sweet more and more and step

1131
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 6: across her stumps, whereas this year, you know you saw

1132
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 6: the other day first ball over mid off and she

1133
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 6: hits the ball bloody heart. So I think it's that

1134
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 6: belief having a big role and just being really clear

1135
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 6: on his strengths and battling them.

1136
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: We started the conversation talking about Milia, how you were

1137
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: playing for New Zealand at sixteen and all the amazing

1138
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: things you've done. Keeva Bray is someone that's doing incredible

1139
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: things as a as almost a young teenager in the

1140
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: WBBL and we're seeing her grow up in front of

1141
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: our eyes while she's still playing cricket on the big stage.

1142
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: What do you see in her that impresses you the most?

1143
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: And is there actually a ceiling when it comes to

1144
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: her cricket.

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00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, she's ridiculous. I think, well, when I saw her

1146
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 6: head over cover, I thought that was ridiculous at a

1147
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 6: young age, and with the power she has. And then

1148
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 6: she's obviously got good skills in the nets. She's already

1149
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 6: practicing an in swinger as well, so's trying to swing

1150
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 6: the ball both ways. So I think what I've picked

1151
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 6: up is like she just she picks up things so

1152
00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 6: quickly sport Like the other day she had a hard

1153
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 6: monika and learned a song, So she picks up things

1154
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 6: really quickly. And she's actually got this. She's got this

1155
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 6: amazing energy. She's so different to what I was at sixteen.

1156
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 6: I was so quiet. She is allowed, she's.

1157
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 2: Got incredible energy, and she's good fun to bear around.

1158
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 6: So I think for her, it's just trying to again

1159
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 6: it is so young, enjoy your cricket, bear around good people.

1160
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 6: But yeah, you've I think in a year you've already

1161
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 6: seen the improvement. And because also a woman's cricket, the

1162
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 6: game is.

1163
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 2: Getting better and better.

1164
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 6: Players have to keep getting better and better and evolving

1165
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:39,919
Speaker 6: with the game.

1166
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, she's she's got a really exciting future.

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00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Meily, we could talk to you for hours, particularly Kirby,

1168
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: we don't have a lot more time. I've got one

1169
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: more and then I'll let Kirby have the last last couple.

1170
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: Just with from the point of view, how the sixers

1171
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: are starting to really really roll and there's every chance

1172
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: you might finish on top of the table, which didn't

1173
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: look possible early in the tournament. Did it take a

1174
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: while for those Australian players from the World Cup to

1175
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: kind of warm up? They had the disappointing finish, roll

1176
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:13,479
Speaker 1: straight into two things where you're playing essentially a home

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01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: a home tournament does almost feel like it's It's not,

1178
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say it was a good thing,

1179
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: but the fact that they've been able to just sort

1180
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: of settle in and then start to explode later that

1181
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 1: that's the exciting part of what's possible moving forward from here.

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01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Yeah.

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01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 6: The World Cup I think obviously probably for every team

1184
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 6: was probably mentally draining except in there.

1185
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:38,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1186
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 2: And you know with Australia with the expectation to win.

1187
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 6: For them, that's not that's underperforming, Like if they don't win,

1188
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 6: that's underperforming, which is which is pretty tough. There's a

1189
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 6: team because cricket's a pretty tough game. Not always the

1190
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 6: best team when when World Cups. But yeah, I think

1191
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 6: for me in a way, I was a little bit

1192
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 6: removed throughout a bit of the World Cup, the World

1193
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 6: Cup this period and the w BBR with my injury,

1194
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 6: so you know, I didn't travel to hope about that

1195
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 6: game they won and was rehabbing. So yeah, I guess

1196
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 6: when you're not playing you feel a little bit sometimes separated.

1197
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 6: So I just think cricket's a game where it's it's

1198
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 6: a hard game. You're going to fail probably more than

1199
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 6: you succeed. But in our group, we've probably got people

1200
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 6: like Les Perry who do have good more have more

1201
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 6: good days than bad days. But that's not normal, and yeah,

1202
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 6: it's just it's just going to happen. There's going to

1203
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 6: be games that don't go your way. But once you

1204
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 6: get on a bit of a roll, have a bit

1205
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 6: of momentum, it helps. And I think at the moment

1206
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 6: with this lineup, we've got a really nice balance within

1207
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 6: our side.

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01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 5: I'm not going to ask you about what you think

1209
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 5: the outcome of the last couple of games are or

1210
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 5: the finals, because I know exactly what I'd say and

1211
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 5: I'd completely fob it. So what I am going to

1212
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 5: ask you is you loved working or continue to love

1213
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 5: working with Charlotte Edwards. Obviously, Matthew Mott comes into the

1214
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 5: Sixers environment this season, and I'm curious with the slow

1215
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 5: start that white he's talking about there and this sort

1216
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 5: of nice build that you have now with some momentum

1217
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 5: towards the back end of the tournament, what has he

1218
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 5: brought to the Sixers group and what is the messaging

1219
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 5: as you head into the business end.

1220
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's.

1221
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 6: So relaxed, he's so chill, which I think is really

1222
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 6: cool a place to be in. He's obviously been in

1223
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 6: the men's environment, and I think that's like how he

1224
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,919
Speaker 6: treats the men as probably how he treats us, which

1225
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 6: sometimes I think you can get coaches that come in

1226
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 6: because we're females, try to control you a bit more

1227
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 6: and it's we're still adults.

1228
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 2: I think his messaging is quite inspiring, and.

1229
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 6: That is one thing I've noticed after wins, after losses,

1230
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 6: he also stays very level. You know, we had that

1231
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 6: game against the Stars and I thought he's summarized it

1232
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 6: really well. That could you know a lot of coaches

1233
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,919
Speaker 6: could really feel that, and as a player, you pick

1234
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 6: up on those things and tournament player, you have to

1235
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 6: move on, but you have to learn. But as well

1236
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 6: as Maddie, I think it's been this whole staff of

1237
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 6: the Sixers incredible, right, Just everyone has stepped up so much,

1238
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 6: I think, and we've got Pete as well, and I

1239
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 6: think Pete Clark and I think he's been like such

1240
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 6: an amazing addition he wasn't with US Sixers last year

1241
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 6: and just what he brings and his passion and then

1242
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 6: obviously if that's sports site background, I think obviously him

1243
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 6: and Moody work together for a long time in Australia.

1244
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 6: They've got a really nice working relationship. But yeah, the

1245
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 6: whole support staff are exceptional and work bloody hard as well,

1246
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 6: and they're just as passionate.

1247
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 2: As if not more.

1248
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 4: You're one more question.

1249
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 3: About ten you can rough us up lightly.

1250
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what do you think is possible this year

1251
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 1: with the Sixers from this position? With the momentum you've

1252
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 1: got rolling that obviously that the firepower that you have,

1253
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: do you feel more confident than in any point in

1254
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 1: the tournament so far that you could go all the

1255
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: way from here?

1256
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 6: Yeah? Well, statistically it's possible that we can finish top

1257
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 6: and then you can win the final.

1258
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 2: But I don't think about it.

1259
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 6: I try not to think too far ahead, like as

1260
01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 6: a team, we've got good players, but so does every team,

1261
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 6: and I think that's one thing I was going back on.

1262
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 2: The other questions.

1263
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 6: What I love about this comp is that you know,

1264
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 6: no matter which team you're playing this match winners and

1265
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 6: it doesn't matter. You know, Brisbane Heat, you haven't had

1266
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 6: a great year, but when we turned up to play then,

1267
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 6: which was what rains out. You just you never know

1268
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,479
Speaker 6: what can happen. And I love that about this promp

1269
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 6: that any team on their day can win.

1270
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 2: So you've just got to play good cricket.

1271
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 6: You've got to just focus on the game in front

1272
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 6: of you and the result will be what it will be,

1273
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 6: as long as you can play the same way that

1274
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 6: you always play despite the situation.

1275
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 2: Of the game.

1276
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 4: Well, Emelia, thank you so much for joining us on

1277
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 4: the surge.

1278
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 1: I know you as a great cricketer, but to be

1279
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 1: able to spend half an hour having a chat to

1280
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: you and getting to know you a little bit better.

1281
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 1: I know Kirby knows all about you, but that has

1282
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 1: been fascinating and I think any young cricketer male or

1283
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 1: female that are coming through I think needs to listen

1284
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: to what you've just had to say. Great, great wisdom,

1285
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: a great experience, and thank you for sharing with us.

1286
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 4: We really appreciate it.

1287
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me guys, Thanks for shared it.

1288
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 1: Amelia kerr there, that was a very special, a very

1289
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: special interview. Not anything we did, but Amelia Kerr in

1290
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 1: sharing some of her philosophies or insights into life, not

1291
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: just a cricket That was special.

1292
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 4: I'm so glad she did that.

1293
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a unique individual.

1294
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 5: I think you it's really easy to be distracted by

1295
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 5: the cricket skill set, the age with which she debuted.

1296
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 3: For her country.

1297
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 5: Yet none of that has kind of derailed the humility

1298
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 5: and the calmness.

1299
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Speaker 3: And as you said, I think philosophy is such a

1300
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 3: lovely word for it.

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01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 5: She's really grounded, isn't she in who she is and

1302
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 5: what matters to her and having that space away from

1303
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 5: cricket is so important.

1304
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was really really special.

1305
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us on the latest edition of

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Speaker 1: So the BBL not too far away. There's also a

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01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: new game on the app called the Big Bash Grid.

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01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 1: Download the Big Bash App to get involved in that.

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Speaker 1: I know that a lot of players are doing that,

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01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: whether it be in airport lounges or even maybe waiting

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01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 1: to bat. I'm not sure, but I know that's really

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Speaker 1: popular with the fans as well. So to do that,

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01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 1: to play that, you have to download the Big Bash App,

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01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 1: and also to stay tuned across all things that are

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Speaker 1: going on.

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Speaker 4: When it comes to the ladder.

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01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 1: We don't know who's going to finish on top the fixtures,

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01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 1: all the statistical information, all the news, all the color

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01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 1: and excitement of the WBBL, it's right there on the app.

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01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 4: Thank you Kirby as well for coming in. It was great.

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Speaker 3: Always a pleasure Kirby Shaw.

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Speaker 4: Joining us on the surge. We'll kee would. In fact,

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Speaker 4: next time we see you it will be finals time.

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Speaker 3: H