WEBVTT - Ioniq 5 N...and Donna calls the show!! 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:07.200 Well here we are finally. Good to see you, Gordon, 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:10.119 I don't believe you. Good to see you, Pavle, good 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:13.640 to see Are you being sponsored by that that dinosaur 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:14.800 brand with the walking stick? 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:16.959 Yes, you wear that a lot. No, I'm not. 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:19.599 No, just did you just go into that store and 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:21.360 just buy a whole heap of ship and just go this? 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:23.880 I'll do it just fits my beautiful body. 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:29.200 Yeah, your zeke, your your glistening pecks that wouldn't look 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:31.400 out of place on a yacht in the Mediterranean. 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:36.560 Guilty is charged speaking? Which I was there recently? Were you? Yeah? 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:39.560 Colus enough, I was in Nice. It was quite nice. 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:42.879 And where it is you've been sitting on that ever? 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:45.080 Come back? You want to? 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:48.400 You on some sort of boat surround by an electric boat. 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:51.479 Fat kind of European men with you. 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:57.959 Know we Australian man. That was other murtoring journealists. No 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:01.320 Tremor was there. Yeah, that's it. It wouldn't be buoyant 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:02.840 with him on it. No, just kidding. 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:05.759 No, we were there for the porchum car launch, which 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:06.720 we'll talk about soon. 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:08.800 But we're on an electric boat. 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:12.760 So this was basically a boat that runs a porschem 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:16.160 of carn motor and one hundred kilo what our battery? 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:16.840 Oh that's cool. 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:19.479 And if you thought that electric cars were not great 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:23.120 for long distance driving, how about an electric boat which 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:26.680 we left the harbor with fifty percent literally fanged around 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:30.560 in this just outside nice for I reckon ten to 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:34.040 fifteen minutes maximum and it was down to twenty five 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:36.320 percent and he had to put it in range mode 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:39.280 to get hited back to the Oh god. 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:42.160 So it's funny when man at Carr manufacturers do boats. 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:45.080 Lamborghini's got a boat. Yeah, the Lambo Boat's call though. Yeah, 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:47.680 that is cool. That looks something straight out about man. 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:49.720 Yeah, one of my friends has two of them because 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:54.520 you can in one frames. But this, this Porsche boat 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:57.639 is it's more designed as a tender, so a little 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:01.400 bitch boat for a bigger boat. So I guess that 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:03.800 kind of makes sense, and it means you can every boat. 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:06.640 Harbor has three phase charging, so it's easy to charge it. 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:10.760 But I love how someone thought water and electricity. That's 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:11.840 a good idea. 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:13.240 Fucking do that. 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:16.680 Yeah, wowe oh you know what, I you know what 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:20.000 I did have a cheeky crack at that bloody Toyota 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:23.880 b f z X whatever, the one that sounds like 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:27.720 Elon Musk's kid, but that one. 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:31.360 So you've been in this, right, you've been in this car. 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:34.200 I can't see the speeder. Yeah yeah, yeah, So I 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:35.760 don't know if that's just a mean thing. I think 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:37.720 it's a you thing, you and your weird shaped head. 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:41.720 I actually thought of that when when I sat in there, 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:43.960 I'm like, what's Paul talking about? Like the head's up 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:45.960 display looks all right. I think it sort of depends 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:48.560 on how you maneuver it. But it was such a 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:52.280 it's a confusing car that it's really confusing because it's 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:56.240 what it's Toyota's first EV and it's actually the one 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:59.040 I was in was top spec, well appointed, looks really 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:02.639 quite plush in the outside. I mean it's like Toyota 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:06.400 every now and then do this gimmecky sort of car design. 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:10.639 It's eighty thousand dollars. That's my only issue with it. 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:13.880 If it was a cheap, cheerful forty to fifty k, 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:15.920 you kind of go, eh. 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:17.519 Eighty k. Yeah. 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:19.480 I'll tell you where it makes sense. It makes sense 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:22.400 in the entry level front will drive version. And the 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:25.359 reason that car I think, Like, to me, I don't 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:29.480 think it's an amazing ev but the market for them 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:32.959 is Toyota customers. So it's someone who drives a camera 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:36.240 that wants an electric car, and it is literally just 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:37.040 an electric camera. 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:38.640 You get into it and it's Toyota. 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.720 There's buttons for everything, it does all the Toyota stuff 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:44.560 that you expect it to do. It's just very safe, 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:48.640 conservative Toyota. So to me it could actually do. Okay, 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:52.000 I personally wouldn't buy one. I don't think it has 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:54.960 the tech that I want out of it. I can't 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:58.920 see the speedo, which kind of important. But yeah, I 0:03:58.960 --> 0:03:59.360 think that. 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:03.320 I'll be interested to see how it goes for them. Yeah. 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.280 Is it the same platform as that Subaru that they're 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.320 bringing out, Yes, the yeah Solterra yep. 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:10.680 I think the only difference that that's going to have 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:14.920 is they'll rip out any interior that looks remotely interesting 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:18.600 and just dumb it down, because the sol Terra interior 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:22.880 shots were pretty plain. But yeah, look, I thought it 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:23.320 was a good car. 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:25.039 Like it drives. I think it drives great. 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:29.200 I think it looks interesting, but the price tag blows 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:31.720 my mind, Like, especially in that market, I mean. 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:33.359 Sure, what are you gonna buy? You're gonna buy. 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:38.400 You're spending eighty thousand dollars on something that you think 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:42.200 is quality, you know what I mean, it's a brand name. 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:45.960 Here's the biggest issue for them. Just when was it 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:50.880 three or four days ago? Tesla dropped their prices massively. 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:54.279 So let me quickly run through this because this is 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:56.960 going to be Toyota's biggest headache because. 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:03.240 Because now let me open this up. He's opening up 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:06.160 his ass. Guys, he's not talking about anything here. We 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:08.880 want said, just get rid of your shit all over 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:12.760 a car brand. Here we go, Okay, here we go. Yeah. 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:16.279 So Tesla has just dropped their prices again. And to 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:17.760 put it into context. 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:21.839 Model three now starts at fifty eight thousand, nine hundred dollars, 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:23.680 which is the cheapest it's ever been. 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:28.400 Cheapest Tesla Model Y sixty nine hundred, which again is 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:32.240 the cheapest it's ever been for the price of or 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:36.360 similar price to that top spec BZ four X. You're 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:40.240 getting significantly more Tesla and you can even stretch to 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:44.080 a model wide performance for eighty two nine hundred. So 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:49.159 this is a huge price reduction. So if you compare 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:50.960 it to the peak, So it peaked to just after 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:53.839 Model Y came out at seventy two three hundred start price. 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:57.360 It's now sixty nine hundred, so twelve thousand dollars cheaper. 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:01.159 So Tesla is definitely trying to compete with its other 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:06.120 Chinese manufactured siblings, and the I guess the side effects 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:07.560 of that are going to be anyone that has gone 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:09.760 and bought any of these other evs that are now 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:14.159 significantly more expensive than the Tesla. The other thing that 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:16.800 that Tesla hasn't really thought maybe they have thought about 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:19.880 and they just don't care, is people that are trying 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:20.479 to now. 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:21.560 Sell these because. 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.440 Yeah, that's what I was going to ask with the Toyota, 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:30.680 because the depreciation on evs is terrible, but a Toyota 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:33.680 being a Toyota, they kind of hold their value, okay. 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:36.160 And Toyota's selling a lot of these on leases. They're 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:39.160 not really trying to push a driveway price. They're trying 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.400 to push a lease that means they just take it 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:43.320 back at the end of it and then who knows 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:45.359 what they're going to do with it then. But the 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.800 interesting thing here is if you took out a novated 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:52.080 lease with a model y at its peak, your car 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:53.920 on a two year ovated lease is going to be 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:59.400 coming up for it's residual and balloon that for me 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:04.360 is forty three thousand dollars. So at the moment, if 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:07.599 your balloon is forty three thousand dollars and a brand 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:11.440 new one is sixty thousand dollars, you're going to be 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.920 on the second hand market at about between forty and 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:18.520 fifty grand. I just think, I don't know that a 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:20.720 lot of people are going to be buying these secondhand, 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:22.640 and that is going to push the price of them 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:25.239 down even more as people try and panic sell because 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:27.320 they want to meet their balloon payment. And if you 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:28.720 have a look at a lot of the instant offer 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:31.320 people on the internet. So at car Expert, we've got 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.760 an instant offer thing. Car Sales has an instant off 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:38.080 a thing. They're all offering high thirties for the model. 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:41.920 Why at the moment, wow, I just speak, it is 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:45.000 going to be grim. And that's why people who ran 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.680 into this novated least thing thinking oh well, I'll save 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:49.360 money on my tax and all this sort of stuff, 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:50.720 they're going to get the shock of their life when 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:52.960 it comes to the balloon payment and not being able 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.160 to sell the car for anywhere near the balloon payment 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:59.080 and then being under So if that is you, email 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:01.360 us contact at the Dryshow dot com today. What do 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.680 you think about Tesla taking you know, twelve grand off 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.200 the price of this thing that you bought that hasn't 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:07.880 changed at all. 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:12.040 Speaking of Tesla, what I saw drive around Sydney yesterday. 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:16.280 They decided to sneak in a cyber truck. 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:19.520 It's a little bit cheeky and you know what they did, 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:21.680 just not not trying to get too much attention. 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:23.640 They drove it to Bondai and parked a. 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:26.360 Bit park it parked at a Bondai and they did 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:29.240 park it at the shopping mall in Double Bay. 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:33.959 Now that whole area is quite affluent, and it looked 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:35.520 so out of it. 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:39.480 Just there's something about the cyber truck, maybe because they 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.040 haven't been here, but you know what it is, It 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.319 looks so out of place in Australian roads. 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:48.319 It is it is. This is going to sound creepy, 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:51.680 but it is the guy that goes to the children's 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:54.120 playground in a trench coat. It's you. It has nothing 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:56.480 on underneath them open to his trench car. It's the 0:08:56.600 --> 0:09:00.000 shock that is the most amazing compots. 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:04.120 You know what, This car is like a pedophile, That's 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:07.160 what it's like. This car's like a guy who owns 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:10.800 a trampoline but doesn't have kids, but. 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.480 It's one of those people who just wants shock factor. Right. 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:15.600 That is what the car is about, and that is 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:18.760 why it will be short lived in terms of its popularity, 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:21.520 because if you're the first to have one, everyone's like, oh, well, 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:22.120 look at this thing. 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:24.520 But I think it will end up being like the 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:30.080 what was the as Tech Pontiac Oh yeah, yeah, Pontiac Aztek, 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:31.160 the car out of Breaking Bad. 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:34.200 It just looks like that, which at the time would 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:36.400 have been like, oh wow, I've got a Pontiac as tick. 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:38.680 It's look at me now. You look at and you're like, oh, 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:41.480 it's a Pontiac as Tech. I think that's what the 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:43.719 cyber truck is going to end up being, because I 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:46.040 think it looks cool now and cool in the sense 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:49.120 that it's different to everything else. I can't see it 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:51.640 being a longer term thing. It's in Australia, where people 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.400 were asking why is it in Australia, Right, It's probably 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:59.160 in Australia to test software and hardware. So they actually 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:02.320 brought out a model ess plaid played a little while back, 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.760 which we don't get here and we won't be getting here, 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:06.880 and they brought that out to do some testing. 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:08.840 Typically, if they're testing. 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:10.480 New cameras, for example, they want to check that it 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:12.839 works with our road signs, and they might roll those 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:14.760 cameras out into the Model three and the Model Y, 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:16.640 which we do get in Australia. 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.000 Interesting though, that they did that with a cyber truck. 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:21.560 Yeah, well, look at you get two things out of it. One, 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:24.479 you get to drive up interest. Tesla sales are declining 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.600 that they're having big issues as a company in terms 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:31.560 of hitting targets and selling cars. Second part is you know, 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:33.120 if you bring it around here, everyone wants to go 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:35.679 get a photo with it. And next to it, conveniently 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:37.960 is a Model three and a Model Y. So I 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:39.640 think they'll end up probably doing a bit of a 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:41.839 road show tour around the country with it just to 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:42.960 get that interest up. 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:43.959 But who does. 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:47.040 There is a picture of it parked at Double Bay. 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:51.920 Oh god, just in my cyber truck trying to fight 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.000 a car park because I'm late for plarties. 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:57.160 Oh, I've got to meet up for cappuccinos with the girls. 0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:02.640 Lander two. That is as a fat little bagger, isn't that. Yeah? 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:04.240 I mean, look at it's right up against the curb 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:07.679 and it's sticking sticking out, so it's a big old thing. 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:10.200 Can't see it coming here? I just can't. Well, it 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:11.000 won't be coming here. 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:13.960 And I'll explain why they build it only in Texas 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.480 and currently they have a huge order bank in the 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:21.160 States for it. Their production is incredibly low like that. 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:23.400 They haven't figured out how to actually mass produce it yet, 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:25.439 so they're going to be figuring out the States for 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:28.080 quite some time before they even look at anything. 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:32.040 In right hand drive. What is that? That's a hememache 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:36.400 on the back of a I know why you're sitting 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:40.960 at a patrol Yeah, this and via patrol Warrior. That's 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:45.800 just because you can want to know anyway. Anyway, the 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.360 key ut right? What is it called the Tasman or 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:48.880 some Tasman? 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:52.199 So the ad dropped, which we forgot to talk about, 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:56.000 but I'll bring it up now. I think everyone I 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.880 think it's some bloody clever advertising. I think it's it's 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:02.600 fantastics x Yeah, it's really well done. The problem is, 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:05.200 I'm not the sportiest bloke in the world. 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:10.200 I didn't know who the fucking of them were. Ash Barji, Yeah, 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.480 it's like ash Barti. Is she the one that sailed 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:14.880 solo around the world? Which run? 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:15.080 She? 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.280 It wasn't that the guy in anyway. 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:24.400 So apparently they filmed that in Bondai at a pub. Yeah, 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:25.800 over a couple of days. 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:29.640 The Bondo pub. Yeah, it was filmed in Bondo Okay. Yeah. 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:32.880 But I was actually asking someone about this. I thought, 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:34.920 this is an expensive ad. If you have to get 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.120 that many celebrities. 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:38.920 Please wend All Sailor's in it. That's his first gig 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.880 in quite sometimes who that is? But I was at 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:43.880 the Sailor the one that went around Yeah probably. 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:48.440 So yeah, And apparently what happened was they got a 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:50.760 couple of big names on board, and when the people 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:52.880 they approached her that the big names were on board, 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:54.719 they wanted to be involved as well, So it ended 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:58.880 up becoming a fomo thing. Yeah, they weren't all there 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:00.960 at the same time, but they look like they were. 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:04.440 So it's a clever campaign because this is a big 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:07.959 deal for Kea and if you look at Australia for 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:11.640 KEA where home of the Australian Open. Obviously they're a 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:15.199 global sort of partner of that event, so Keia Global 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:17.000 spends a lot of money here, so that means that 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:20.000 KEA Australia benefits from the advertising, the cars that they 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:23.000 have to buy to run the event, et cetera. And 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:25.320 the ute is going to be we will probably be 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.680 the primary market for that vehicle unless it goes to 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:30.319 the States as well, and they're putting a lot of 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:32.959 effort into right and handling tuning here. Australia has had 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:35.280 a lot of involvement in the development work for that car. 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:37.760 What we do know and we've just put a video 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:39.800 up on car Expit about this, we do know that 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:42.320 it won't have V six so it'll only be four cylinder. 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:45.080 There is an electric ute coming, but it may not 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:47.560 be coming to Australia, so that's due to be launched 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:47.959 next year. 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:51.200 Four cylinder. Could this be a hybrid, No, just diesel, 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:51.880 straight diesel. 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:55.319 Currently their only four cylinder diesel is like four hundred 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:57.640 and forty ut meters, so it is pretty piss week. 0:13:58.040 --> 0:13:59.679 If they do want it to compete, it'll need to 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:02.040 be the or seventy to match Triton or five hundred 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:05.200 to match Ranger and high Lux, so that they're the 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:06.079 things that they have. 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:09.080 To focus on. The design. I don't know if you've 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:14.360 seen it, but it's interesting looking. I don't hate it, Okay, 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:16.280 I don't hate it. I think it looks all right. 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:17.840 It looks good. 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:21.760 So we had our guy do some sort of renders 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.920 based on all of the spy photos we've had so far, 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:27.080 and this is what he's come up with. 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:29.240 Okay, that's what do you think? It's just showed me 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:33.680 some Butcher's paper and crayon drawing geese. Your guy must 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:34.800 be really good. I like it. 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:39.640 Yeah, I think it looks good. The headlights yeah, vertical, yeah, 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:41.640 I think that. I think they're a little bit more 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:42.960 square on the real thing, aren't they. 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:46.640 No, this is this is the okay, look like right? Well, yeah, 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:50.120 I think it looks good. I think it looks good. Interesting. Well. 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:53.440 Most of the time, I'll shit on a car, literally 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:57.640 I did. I did want on yours on downstairs. Unfortunately 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:00.480 it wasn't actually yours tops car. 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:04.920 The key I'm excited for it. I'm excited. You know 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.720 what the care you could even be my new car. 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:10.520 Oh watch out you, you tray to you. 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:11.720 I don't know. 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:14.640 I'm getting a bit itchy. I'm getting a bit itchy. 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:16.240 I'm getting some new car fields. 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.360 I'm currently kind of going, I think of only. 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.320 I mean, I've really taken the out back to the 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:23.400 art back and beyond. 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:26.240 I mean it's dark. You would if it wouldn't run 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:26.680 out of fuel. 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:29.200 Yeah, you got to the edge of s We're still bloody, 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:33.040 averaging twelve twelve leaders per one hundred k's something weird. 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:35.080 Do you know what else I noticed about it too? 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:39.240 I don't think it's got front sensors, like parking senses doesn't. 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:41.680 I don't think it has risk senses either. Nah, it's 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:43.200 got a camera, yeah, and that's about it. 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:46.000 Yeah. The other day I was like, this car doesn't 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:49.800 have front parkers. That's a screaming noise. Yeah, Oh that's 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:53.720 my key. What's her a handbag on the bottom. Oh 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:59.040 that's my wife. What's going on? Oh? Well, their fault, 0:15:59.080 --> 0:15:59.520 not mine. 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:00.520 Yeah. 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:02.320 No. The other day I was like, I'm going to 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:06.200 test this. This definitely doesn't have senses. And we're at 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:06.720 our house. 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.000 We've got one of those those gates, you know, that 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:12.840 electronically open with the driveway, and so I'm just kind 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:15.000 of like, before I do this, I'm just going to 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.080 give it a little bit of a Yeah. It definitely 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:20.440 doesn't give it a nudge. Yeah, yeah, definitely doesn't have 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:21.120 fucking senses. 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:22.720 What I've learned from this is not to buy a 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:25.440 car from Gordy. Yes, it's going to be on the 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:26.960 second hand market very soon. 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:28.880 I'll let you know, to be honest with you, I'll 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:31.040 probably still keep it because I think I stand by 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:34.960 It still drives great, just choose up the fuel a 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:35.400 little bit. 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:40.120 But yeah, I'm starting to shop around, start to shop around. 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:43.000 Maybe I could be looking at one of the cars 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:45.640 that we're sort of going to be talking about later on. 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:47.440 Yeah, go on. Oh, We'll just going to give you 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:49.120 a little bit of a sneak. Yeah, okay. Well I 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:55.160 drove the BYD Seal Performance oh wow, and I freaking 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:58.440 loved it. Interesting, I did. I really, I really enjoyed it. 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:01.880 The problem, which we'll get into, but the problem with 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:05.120 a lot of these cheap performance evs, and I mean 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:08.600 seventy thousand dollars is not you know, but it's not 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:10.600 exactly MGX power. 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:14.199 Cheap which is like what fifty. 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:17.080 They tend to drive fast, obviously in a straight line, 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:20.600 and then the handling on them is just generally rubbish. 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:24.280 This handles brilliantly. So well, it's such a smooth car. 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:27.160 And yeah, it's got the speed when you need it too. 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:30.640 It's tucked away there, so we'll talk about it later. 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:33.879 But get you some tissue paper for that gushing, just 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:36.000 to clean it up. What do you need? That's some 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:37.240 tissues for your gushing? 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:40.960 Jesus Christ. She just took that. Someone's been on Born 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:45.720 Harbor bit too much. God, something's front of mind. Hey, 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:49.760 some cars that have been dropping lately, the new lambou 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:54.080 Urus was it the s Yeah, top of my head? 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:55.080 V eight hybrid? 0:17:55.320 --> 0:18:01.320 Yeah, interesting, I'm plugging hybrid now listen. Can we just 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:05.000 take one second before anything else? Is it just me 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:08.760 or a plug in? Hybrids just a bit shit in 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:09.960 terms of just a pain. 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:10.399 In the ass. 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:14.480 So yes, yeah, well, especially when they're half a million 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:19.199 dollars and you're just adding weight to this thing. Know, 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:22.679 the vight engine is augmented by an electric motor, so 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.600 it adds one hundred and forty kilo. What's a power 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:30.040 four hundred and eighty new meters of talk. The problem 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:33.239 is that it's integrated into the eight speed auto, and 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:35.520 every car I've driven now that has a plug in 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:38.960 hybrid integrated into an eight speed automatic transmission hasn't been 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:42.560 great because unlike a Toyota hybrid, for example, where you 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:46.520 have a CVET or you know, it's not actually a CVT, 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:50.400 but something that's designed like a CVET, you're getting instant 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:52.960 talk because you're not waiting for this thing to figure 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:55.040 out which gear it needs to be in. When it's 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:58.320 integrated with the transmission, the electric motor doesn't do anything 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:01.600 until the transmission is in gear effectively, so when you 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:05.080 go to step on the throttle, there's still momentary ladag. 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:10.360 Yeah. So I don't know. To me, yeah, it seems fine. 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:12.639 But they tend to and obviously haven't driven it, but 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:14.679 they tend to work better once you actually have an 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:17.639 electric motor that can operate independently of everything so that 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:19.919 you can actually get that initial surge of talk, and 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:21.600 then once the engine's ready to get then sort of 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:22.480