WEBVTT - Why Is It So Hard To Cancel Subscriptions? 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.080 Flex and fruits on Kaida. 0:00:03.080 --> 0:00:07.000 Welcome to the podcast. Qts, q TETs, curlies, skulls. 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:12.640 What'd you said before pigged pig? It don't but it's good. No, 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:15.880 it was a it was a miss a misspoke. 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:17.959 Yeah, we are a lot of those in the show. 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:19.079 I don't, I don't. 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:24.599 I'm nagging us. It's not a good vibe, is it. No, 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:26.920 it's the year of positivity. What is the what's the 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:27.720 animal this year? 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:28.840 Do check? 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:32.760 I think it's a rat. Anyone know in the room? 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:37.360 I'm checking five brains in this room. Twenty twenty two 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:43.120 year of tiger. Oh, I feel like that doesn't mean much. 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:46.800 Press about that. That's an exciting year, AnyWho. 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:48.400 Welcome to the podcast. 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:51.000 All right, so today we're going to be talking about 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:53.240 what marketing has taught me about dating apps. 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:54.200 We talked about it. 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:57.200 A little bit like a tinty dunty dunty bit on Instagram, 0:00:57.680 --> 0:00:59.160 and it wasn't enough. 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:02.560 It wasn't enough at all. But basically we all. 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:06.199 Know that dating apps are there for profits, not love. 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:10.399 That is very true. And we also know that they 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:13.000 are tech apps. 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:16.440 Like they are, they meant to function with algorithms. They 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:19.200 look at your behavior and everything is done with a 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:22.720 little robot, and the point is you need a plan 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:28.400 and a strategy. I feel like most people are too 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:31.919 insecure to use dating apps properly, and that is working 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:32.880 to their detriment. 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:35.480 Being a bit silly in the wrong ways. 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:38.880 Yeah, because be silly, be aloof. 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:42.760 But I think that, like we discussed later on the podcast, 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:46.120 a lot of people are really embarrassed about wanting to 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:46.759 be in love. 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:48.400 However, the way you. 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:51.360 Want to spin it, there's this general shame around love 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:53.360 relationships and the acquisition. 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:56.760 Yeah, the acquisition bits the hard meat, because people want 0:01:56.800 --> 0:02:00.360 to get to admit that they are lonely, decrepit. 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:05.920 Yes, undesirable, honestly general pigs. 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:08.359 And also with the way people have been socialized to 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:10.799 view romance, it's meant to come to you, it's meant 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.360 to find you, and it's meant to scoop you up 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:16.040 and change your life and requires no effort from you. 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:18.720 Just be yourself a little shop. And that's just not true. 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.120 And I think people know that to a point, but 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.720 they also want it to be them. Yes, so they're like, 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:26.520 but I'm different, I'm special. Somebody will pick me if 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:29.160 I just PLoP myself on this app, give it the 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:32.560 most basic, bare minimum beage profile I can do, and 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:37.639 hope somebody sees through the nothingness to find my true self, 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:40.040 my twenty four facet diamond heart. 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:41.680 And it's not going to happen. 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:45.519 Let's figure out how to then bring that heartch to 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:48.760 the forefront, shine it, put it into a ring, and 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.200 eventually put it onto your finger. Let's cut to it. 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:52.480 Abolish marriage. 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:56.640 This is flex and frooms. 0:02:57.960 --> 0:02:59.840 I am a marketer. I don't know if you know 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:02.400 that about me, but it's one of my trades, one 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:05.720 of my skills, and I often like to see the 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.000 world through the lens of marketing because we live in 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.840 a consumer culture anyway, So I'm sure it all adds 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:13.359 up when you really dissect it. The other day, I 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:16.520 was talking to my best friend Sally, and we were 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:20.200 reviewing each other's dating app profiles, and I looked at 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:23.960 hers and she had beautiful pictures, no bio, very little 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:27.800 information about her, didn't answer any prompts, bear hot and bear, 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:31.120 to which I said, you look like a bot, to 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:33.440 which she said, I'm giving mysterious and I was like, oh, yeah, 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:36.200 I guess that's true. And they went to my profile, 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.920 which is like a lot all filled out a lot 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:42.680 of information, some would say polarizing if anything. 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:45.840 But as we were discussing, I was like, I have. 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:48.840 A theory about why I use my dating app the 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:51.160 way I do and why other people use. 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:52.200 Theirs the way they do. 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:56.960 And so the analogy I gave is that people set 0:03:57.120 --> 0:04:00.680 their dating profiles up in the most basic way possible 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:04.240 to get the attention of the largest group of people, 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:07.040 Like I want to be attractive to everyone, but it's 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:10.040 a setup because you aren't attractive to everyone, and when 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:11.800 they get to know the real you, when they start 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:15.640 that conversation, they'll quickly find that out. Then you have 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:18.480 a lot more negative experiences with the profile. It puts 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:20.919 you off, It makes you more desperate, You start reaching 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:24.080 out to more people, start paying for services, start getting 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:26.240 real feral and frantic about how you want to use 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:28.680 the platform because you're not getting the result you want 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:31.919 and you're thinking it must be me. My approach is 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:35.080 to have a really detailed and specific profile that isn't 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:38.880 attractive to all people, because, for a fact, when somebody 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.719 who really likes the things I like sees me, they'll 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:45.039 also like me. The analogy I gave. Sorry, I was 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:49.040 talking about like just a simple beige handbag. I was like, yes, 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:53.560 in theory, most people who wear handbags might like a 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:58.680 simple beige handbag. It's been made for the most mainstream population. 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:02.240 It's generic, it's to be accessible. But the issue is 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:05.080 making something generic and accessible is that everyone probably has 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:07.640 one or just doesn't really want yours bad enough to 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.200 go and buy it. So, yes, it looks good, Yes 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:13.600 it's not offensive. Yes, like I'm sure I could imagine 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.560 somebody might want it, but I don't really want it. Now, 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:19.600 you take that beige handbag and you make it exciting. 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.360 You put a puffy key chain on it, you make 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:25.159 the strap a chain, you put a big Schanell logo 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.960 on it, and suddenly the people who like those specific 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.880 things think, this beige bag is so much more than 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:34.040 just a beige bag. It's a Chanell bag. Look at 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:36.640 that logo. Oh, but it's like a nighttime bag. It's 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:37.719 got a cool strap. 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.680 But she's a bit quirky with a fluffy little which 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:41.800 is from Valencialga. 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:43.920 So it's cost this is exactly dollars. 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:46.640 So suddenly adding this bit of interest or flare means 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.599 that the person who really resonates with that interest or 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:53.240 flare wants that bag so much more than when it 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:56.880 was just generic and boring and plain. And so we 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.279 spoke last week about the fact that I did the 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:03.120 social experience of putting high maintenance in my profile, to 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:04.680 which you said something. 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.440 Like I thought it was. 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:12.200 Like. My idea was the term high maintenance came about 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:16.120 in the early two thousands, and it was weaponized. A 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:18.239 bit heavy to say that word, but it was essentially 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:22.479 weaponized against women who liked material things. So therefore, you 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.880 putting it on your profile is reclaiming it and being 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:28.000 almost ironic. 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:30.000 To which you disagreed. Yeah, I was like, not being 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:34.520 ironic at all. I'm actually being quite legitimate because I 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:37.640 think that anyway somebody takes that is close enough to 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:40.440 how I want to be represented. So yeah, So the 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:44.280 theory putting high maintenance in the profile was that I 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:48.039 don't want to give the impression that I'm not high maintenance. 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:50.040 Like I think that with the way that I present, 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:52.960 wearing colorful clothes, smiling all the time, it can give 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:55.479 the impression like she's just a chill, fun, loose unit, 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:59.120 which can be true. But I think that's all I'm 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:03.159 projecting usually sometimes where I need to add some light 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:05.640 and shade, and I actually am high maintenance, Like I 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:08.839 think people should know that about me before they like, 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:12.160 you know, try and orbit, try and enter my orbit 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:15.120 and are surprised when I'm like asking for them to 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:19.240 like speak and share their thoughts. And I'm like, so 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:21.680 what do you mean by that? In seeing where what's 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:23.360 the date that we're going on? And like I'm not 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:25.720 only my house to like sit in a room with you. 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.520 What's what's happening here? So what you prefer to do 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:29.240 an activity? 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:29.560 No? 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:32.520 I just mean that, Like I feel like a lot 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:34.800 of like dating can be a bit like ho hum, 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:36.960 let's just like you know, we should hang out, like 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:38.600 I have friends for that, Like do you want to 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:41.160 go on a date? Like are you is this an 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:43.400 intentional thing or just like wasting time with a pretty 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.000 girl because you can do that anywhere? 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:45.760 Interesting? 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:47.720 Because I like that approach. 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:52.600 I just I'm not sure if our collective understanding is there, 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.960 Like I think we're still in a phase with online 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:59.600 dating where people are nervous about it and they think, oh, 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:01.320 I don't want to seem too keen. In the early 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:04.080 stages because we still have this stigma about it. Everybody 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:06.400 does it, but still it's weird stigma. You want to 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:09.080 play it cool. I also think you're in an interesting 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:14.760 position because people can get heaps of context for you. 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.560 The way you present online is still like quite a 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:22.320 close approximation to who you are in your life. So 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:25.080 then if they're really interested from the get go, you 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.800 don't know how much information they can gain off you. 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:32.240 But anyway, I want to talk more about specific things 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:33.640 that you write in your profile because I know that's 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:37.400 not necessarily relatable to every single person. Yeah, being very 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:40.040 specific on the profile. I think that still scares people 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:42.920 because I think it's really hard to accept that you 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.720 would be attracting just a certain person. I also think 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:50.120 because some people don't really feel very confident in themselves. 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:52.480 So therefore I find this thing sometimes if you don't 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.760 feel confident in yourself, you're not attracted to the people 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:57.880 that are attracted to you, because you think, oh, there's 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:01.199 no way you're how can you say anything that's good 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.920 about may there must be something wrong about you. Yeah, 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.640 So I think maybe that's why people try and keep 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:08.600 it as wide as possible. 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:12.560 Yeah, I think it's totally justifiable, but it also is 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.960 like it's not the point, right, Like, if you were 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:19.559 so ambiguous a nonchalant about dating, you wouldn't be on 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:22.720 a dating app. Like, there's clearly something you want, something 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.160 you're looking for, somebody you're trying to attract, and so 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:29.320 acting nonchalant in the space is like so dumb because. 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:31.320 You're already here. We're all here, right. 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:33.200 It's what I was talking to Sally about where I 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:35.679 was like you she said like, oh my, gonna hate 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.200 when people don't. She's like, I don't have any prompts 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:41.800 because it's mysterious and it gives people an opportunity to 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:44.760 delve further. But she also hates when people don't have 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:46.240 prompts because she's like, well, what am I meant to 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:51.240 do here? Your strategy completely contradicts the thing that you're 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:52.960 looking for. And I think a lot of people do 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.920 that with their apps, right, Like this idea of I 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:58.600 want to create a profile that is as attractive to 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:01.240 as many people as possible. Then you are seen as 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:03.920 attractive and there's all these wilderbeasts in your life. You're like, 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:06.680 who are these people who think they have a chance 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:11.160 And It's like you gave them that impression looking real, plain, real, accessible, 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:14.240 real exciting for the average person to hook their teeth into. 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:15.319 That's what you did. 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:17.880 And when you're like, oh my god, the conversation so dry, 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:21.200 of course it is misbeare profile. Of course it is. 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:24.440 Mister. I want someone who likes adventures. When was your 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:25.280 last adventures? 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:28.200 I want to go life with someone. I was watching 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:31.880 your dms when you talked about this on Instagram, and 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.000 I saw a technique which I have used in the 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.280 pastorm on the dating app, which I really appreciate it 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:38.400 when I see it in someone that I'm looking for, 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:42.160 is throwing in the rogue meme. Yes, I would recommend 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:44.520 to anybody who's maybe not getting the right matches or 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:48.439 attracting these people that they deem basic in their rubrics 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:52.640 of basicness is find the most fucked meme that is 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:54.199 the most fucked little. 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:57.920 Like sucked in like the hyper specific to you way, yes, 0:10:58.080 --> 0:10:59.160 the meaning like god, this is so me. 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.560 For example, my favorite meme of all time that's just 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:05.600 like an image is I put a sugar cube in 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:11.840 my asshole so ants crawl up there and bite the inchibit. 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:17.839 It's like this is warped, like very visual. You'll give 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:19.400 it to us one day. It's the best media of 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:22.160 all time. I'll put that on a dating profile. That's 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:25.120 going to cut out eighty percent of people. They thinking 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:27.000 that's weird. People don't like pooh humor. 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:31.040 Yeah, you do, and that's what matters people. 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.400 I think people set up their dating apps for consumption, 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:35.440 Like I want to set up a profile that is 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.160 entertaining for other people so when they look at me 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:41.160 they like what they see all in all forgetting what 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:43.800 they want, Like what do you want? 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:45.880 You want people who are going to get your humor? 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.280 Who are going to know that, Like, yes, you can 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:50.600 look pretty at a wedding in your little suit, but 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:52.960 like you don't wear suits ninety nine point nine percent 0:11:52.960 --> 0:12:00.959 of the time. You wear little havanas ex lord and 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:01.560 a rip. 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:04.600 Curlty shirt from around twenty twelve. 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:05.440 That's you, kid. 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.679 And so when you've worn the ones you have for 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.839 what's time you went to a wedding, don't set yourself up. 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:12.920 It's not you. 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:17.320 Also, people being really vague about their jobs, like we're 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:18.240 gonna find out. 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:19.800 Put something in there. 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:24.240 Really put the location of where you work, but don't 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:26.640 say like I don't want to give out too much information. 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:30.120 It's like, there's a way to give context without like 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:31.800 blowing your whole load and being like. 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.680 This is where you can find me foul from you. 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:39.000 I don't like it when you do that liking. Oh, 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:43.079 I guess that is I liked you know, blow me 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:48.600 being infested by dating absolutely on the brain. 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:50.679 There's a way to give context without like, you know, 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:55.199 giving away your whole identity. And I think this whole ambiguous. 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:57.520 I want to be mysterious. I don't want to look desperate. 0:12:57.600 --> 0:12:59.520 I don't want to you look already look like all 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:02.880 of those things anyway. So just like if. 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:05.319 You're going to be on the best way I can 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:08.040 explain it is this ambiguity is keeping you on the 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:12.040 apps for way longer, have a specific profile, meet someone cute, 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:14.319 delete the app for six months, you think you're in love. 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:17.400 Then get back on when you realize they're a bush pig. 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:19.120 That's romance. 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:21.800 Well, I can't wait to try and find your profile. 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:23.280 FLEXI will match. 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:27.559 You're listening to Flex and frooms on hate some one. 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:30.559 I'm so good. I hope everybody else is doing good 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:35.839 as well. Something that a lot of women that are influential. 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:39.800 Wealthy in Sydney have all started doing is selling their 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:41.319 secondhand clothes? 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:44.280 Yes, and for some economy good thing. 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:46.480 Yeah, okay, well I want to talk about with it 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:49.400 not it's a good thing. Because I've seen multiple articles. 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:52.040 This seems to be obviously getting clicks because a lot 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:55.120 of Australian news sites are writing about it. Lucy Many, 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.800 who is the Sydney I reporter for Sydney Morning Herald 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:02.960 so kind of like gos Girly, wrote a big piece 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:05.880 recently and basically it name drops a few people. So 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:10.439 there's a hell song heiress called Laura Toggs who's selling 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:13.480 her clothes on Deepop, which I just for some reason 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:16.760 think that's so such a weird coupling of two things. 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.640 And essentially this article is saying that it gives you 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.040 a peek into the life of a Christian preacher and 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:25.560 glamorous mum of three, not to mention an owner of 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:28.280 a very enviable wardrobe. 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:29.920 So a stretch. 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:32.840 But see, I don't know if they're stretching it or not, 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:34.680 but I like, if you posted your deep hoop, do 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.240 I get a peek into your the life of her 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:43.120 agnostic potentially atheist, not Swedish blonde. I feel like we're 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:45.760 just putting things together seeing what sticks well. 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:47.960 I want to talk about this because I have a 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:50.760 deep pop and I've tried to have sold clothes once before. 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.800 It is not worth the efforts. Yah, it's a lot 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:56.360 of effort, and it's I don't know why they do 0:14:56.400 --> 0:15:00.120 it because if I higher price point items true. But 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:04.000 think about it this way. Let's say I am a 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:07.160 what's it called, like a salty person who has it 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:11.400 out against the world, isn't doing very well, very envious 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:14.880 of rich people and very angry at people who inherited money. 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:19.359 So I see these women selling their clothes on deepop, 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:23.280 I decide to buy them and then tear them up 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:25.680 and then dox them on Instagram being. 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.200 Like, oh Laura talk, so has that happened. 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:31.320 No, I'm just saying like, don't too much. 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:32.280 Not too much. 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:36.160 You're creative with that, but you know what I mean, Like, 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.920 that's that's why I don't. I've got so much stuff 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:39.640 that I want to sell you. 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:42.720 You don't sell your clothes because the old occasions might 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.440 buy your clothes, cut them up and post that you 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:46.960 sold them torn rags. 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:47.960 People. 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.280 I don't want to be liable. I don't want to 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.520 have to have a conversation with someone I sell them 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:54.760 something it's not what they wanted. I don't want to 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:55.080 deal with it. 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:59.360 Back and forthtellers or you think e commerce is I 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.360 get what you're saying, because selling there's a bit of 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:05.840 a stigma around the secondhand economy anyway. I think that 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:08.480 some things are deemed to be more appropriate to give away, 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:14.160 like a couch or a speaker. Clothes get into a 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:16.200 bit of a slippery slope, I think because of the 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:18.600 nature of how people get those clothes. I know there's 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:21.280 a lot of back and forth conversation about how a 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:23.680 lot of these influencers are getting these clothes for free 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:27.120 or as payment for work, or they're buying them and 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:31.760 then putting them down as like what's the word, I'm 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:36.040 looking for tax deductions, they're lowering the taxable expenses. They're 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.200 getting double paid, like I bought them for work, but 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:40.400 now I'm selling them to you via deepop So I 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:43.000 know there's that angle of it. I also think that 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:46.880 people associate selling things as kind of like a you're 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:49.400 shaped for cash and it's really sad as opposed to 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:50.760 the reality is. 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:54.000 These people are over consuming. They have too much stuff. 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:56.520 Probably feels like it's too high a value to just 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:58.360 you take it to a local venez or a salvo, 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:00.560 so they want to recoup some of their money back. 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:02.560 I think it's fine. I think if you're running it 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:03.160 like a. 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.560 Business where you are making sure the closes are in 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:08.960 good condition, the photographs look great, you're managing and shipping 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:11.600 things out on time, it's totally fine. And I think 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:15.600 the more people who who are deemed to be influential, 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:17.960 the more they do it, the better. 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:18.639 It's going to be. 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:23.560 Like the perception of buying things secondhand needs to improve anyway, 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:27.240 so let people sell things interesting. 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:30.359 This is flex and frooms on Keda. 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:31.360 We're talking about. 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:34.080 Nudes, nice about nudes, and that is specifically in the 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:37.800 context of a segment called am I the Asshole? 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:39.439 Very good, Very juicy. 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:44.200 Basically, we troll this Reddit thread where people share their 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:48.080 moral dilemmas in which they seem like they might be 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:50.080 a bit of an asshole, but they aren't sure, and 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:51.080 then we decide for them. 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:55.720 Let's get right into this because it's juicy and relatively hefty. 0:17:56.720 --> 0:18:00.000 The title is am I the Asshole? For posting our relatives. Now, 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:03.399 dudes in the family group chat, here we go, Kyle 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:07.399 is a distant relative. Well, he's actually my stepdad's cousin's kid. 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:11.120 I'm already lost. I've never really been around him even 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:15.480 lated at that point stepdad dad cousin's kid. That's a 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:20.400 stranger relative, he says. Let's see, we hadn't seen each 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:22.040 other for a while, but we did at a wedding 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.639 a few months ago. He got drunk and kept hitting 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:26.800 on me, saying how hot I was and how he'd 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:28.879 loved to get to know me better. I rolled my 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:31.440 eyes to try and get away from him. Later on, 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:34.199 someone gave him my number and he kept messaging me. 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:37.400 I complained to my stepdad, who shrugged it off. Some 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:39.560 people even thought it was cute or funny, which just 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:44.280 encouraged him. A few days later, he started sexting me nudes. 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:47.520 What's worse was people who were at the wedding would 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:50.159 tease me like it was some grand joke. About a 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:52.359 month or two later, I had finally had enough and 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:55.000 I sent everyone who had mocked me, and then some 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:58.120 got nudes of Kyle family. 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:01.520 Mayha reading the thing you're. 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:04.920 Going to keep Chloe, So she sent her to everyone 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:08.600 who mocked her, including the family who's making fun of me. Yep, 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:12.400 so she's distributing shooting the nudes in the group chat, 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:16.080 in which Kyle is also a member. Ooh, the aunt 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:17.679 thought we'd make a cute couple. 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:22.280 She's talking through. 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:24.720 She's got a weird babe running. But this is I'm 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:27.160 going to read out the people that got the nude. Okay, 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:29.959 the auntie who thought we would make a good couple, 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:33.280 send her Carl's nude. The parents who had raised him 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:36.280 to be this crappy person, send him a Carle nude 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:41.199