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Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me.

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Speaker 2: Lola Berry, author, nutritionist and yoga teacher join me as

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Speaker 2: we get to know these guests and learn about how

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Speaker 2: their failures have ultimately shaped their dreams. Welcome to fearlessly

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Speaker 2: Failing with Lola Berry. Get a gang. It's lolls here.

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Speaker 2: So we've started doing our intros. Is like little check ins.

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Speaker 2: Bosso and I are loving life in Talkie. I think

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Speaker 2: we'd probably like to spend as long as humanly possible here.

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Speaker 2: I think it's just so nice to be able to

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Speaker 2: connect to nature. It does feel like things are starting

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Speaker 2: to open up a little bit definitely here in Australia.

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Speaker 2: I know in the next week or so, Jim's and

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Speaker 2: yoga stuos are starting to reopen, which is really exciting.

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Speaker 2: Today's guest. If you're a creative, this guest is totally

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Speaker 2: for you. The wonderful Bonnie Anderson, so very talented actress.

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Speaker 2: You probably know her from neighbors, but even before that,

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Speaker 2: when she was twelve years old, was when she auditioned

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Speaker 2: for Australia's Got Talent. So this girl is a powerhouse,

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Speaker 2: a wonderful, wonderful singer. I think even now the neighbor's

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Speaker 2: theme song is done by Bonnie. So I went to

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Speaker 2: a house. This is well before COVID nineteen, went to

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Speaker 2: a house which is a menagerie of animals. She's got

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Speaker 2: this ginormous beautiful dog called Delilah.

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Speaker 1: WHA's a dog de Bordeaux.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna put photos and stuff on stories when this

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Speaker 2: EP comes out, and as we're recording, you're going to

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Speaker 2: hear little moments where a cat's for knocking over water

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Speaker 2: bottles and it's so much fun.

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Speaker 1: It's so much fun to chat to her.

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Speaker 2: She is full of positive energy and hope, which is

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Speaker 2: exactly what I think we need to hear right now.

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Speaker 2: So big love and thank you to the incredibly talented

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Speaker 2: Bonnie Anderson. You have been on my dream list to

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Speaker 2: be on this podcast. I'd say from the get go,

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Speaker 2: I have a little wish list and I tick off

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Speaker 2: if I get people. Oh man, this is the incredible

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Speaker 2: Bonnie Anderson for anybody listening, guys, and I was so

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Speaker 2: excited to have you on because you're such a creative powerhouse.

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Speaker 2: You're a singer, songwriter, but also actor, bit of acting

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Speaker 2: actor or actress.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I don't even know myself. To

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Speaker 1: be honest, I think I know. But I had to

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Speaker 1: say actor now because I heard there was a thing

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Speaker 1: about they got rid of the actress thing. Right, do actor, man,

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Speaker 1: let's just do actor. I like it. I'm a bit

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Speaker 1: of a tomboy, so even even so, let go with actor.

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Speaker 2: But also, apart from being a singer, songwriter, actor. One

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Speaker 2: thing I'm really excited about that you are. You're a Virgo, mate,

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Speaker 2: I'm a Virgo.

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Speaker 1: You're a Virgo. Yes, No, and our numerology is similar.

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Speaker 1: I'm really into numerology.

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Speaker 2: So you're September the fifth, right, yes, so your like

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Speaker 2: number is a five, like your birth date number, and

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Speaker 2: I'm fourteenth, which makes me five. So we're obsessed with

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Speaker 2: creating chain.

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Speaker 1: Well, I just love that. Yeah. I just started following

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Speaker 1: this some really funny thing on Instagram, right, so it's

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Speaker 1: like the Virgo Instagram. I just I think it's so

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Speaker 1: I do that. I'm like so weird like that. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm the exact site.

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Speaker 2: I'm such a little like a bit OCD. Like I said,

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Speaker 2: I've got this list and you've been on.

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Speaker 1: It for so long. I love that highlight it once

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Speaker 1: that oh man, yeah, ever since we met. I think

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Speaker 1: it was at was it Lily Allen? That's right, And

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Speaker 1: that was cool because I remember I used to go

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Speaker 1: to your smoothie bar in South Melbourne. I used to

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Speaker 1: kind of cruise down there with my sister and I

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Speaker 1: would I would always hope that you were there. It

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Speaker 1: was actually like we've been so was. My sister was like,

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Speaker 1: I love your Sister's a legend. She loves you know,

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Speaker 1: she gets like thistle cat. We've just got a little

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Speaker 1: kitten jumping. Oh my god. Yes, they like to be involved.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's weird because I remember seeing you and

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Speaker 1: I sent a message to my sister saying, oh Lol

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Speaker 2: saw you at Lily Allen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, who that is like you gave me the

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Speaker 2: That you are a very beautiful pooch. We have two

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Speaker 1: So there's lots of noise, but it's okay, we're all

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Speaker 2: So we were saying as soon as I pulled up

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Speaker 2: sent the the questions too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which we're both excited about it. I like that

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Speaker 2: But also because this this podcast is about failure and

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Speaker 2: I always say, I guess like think of three failures,

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Speaker 2: and because we kind of like made this happen yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Last night, I was just like, We're just going to

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Speaker 2: And that's why I'm so excited to just kind of

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Speaker 2: like uncover Bonnie, you know, and just like what makes

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Speaker 2: So first of all the people that are just like,

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Speaker 2: how did this girl start?

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Speaker 1: Was it twelve years old? You're on Australia's Got Time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I'll give you a little bit of a rundown.

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Speaker 1: So basically, growing up, I was involved in a kind

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Speaker 1: the very first year I auditioned. I remember Mom saying

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it cuts to you like busting out

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, I look back at those things sometimes

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Speaker 1: It's qt day. Yeah it is. And it's cool that

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Speaker 2: You know, people would kill for that at thirty or

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Speaker 1: Yeah you did it at twelve. Yeah it was wild,

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Speaker 1: you know. And a lot of people ask me, would

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Speaker 1: because that opportunity, that one opportunity opens so many doors.

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Speaker 1: you hear that? Guys? Yeah, Like that's going to be

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's been an interesting ten or twelve years

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Speaker 2: To have like someone that you worked with when you're

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Speaker 1: This is what I've got here at singing versus acting.

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Speaker 1: year it's changed my life for the better. And it's

432
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Speaker 1: something that I definitely needed because I've grown as a

433
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 1: person personally and just business wise and my mentality and

434
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 1: just being confident. You know, you're on screen. We're filming

435
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 1: every day. We do, like sometimes over fifty hours a week,

436
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,399
Speaker 1: and where you know, sometimes you might have a pimple

437
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,479
Speaker 1: and things like this. This is the silly things that

438
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 1: women think about, you know, and we'll be filming and

439
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 1: you know you kind of think, oh god, I hate

440
00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,200
Speaker 1: that side of my face or but it's kind of

441
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 1: I've overcome stupid things like that that you know, as

442
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 1: a young girl two years ago and I was probably

443
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,640
Speaker 1: more insecure about it, and I think now at the age

444
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 1: I am and have gone through what I've gone through.

445
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I like me. I like me,

446
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 1: and it's such a nice feeling. You know. Of course

447
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 1: I have made securities and things like that, but I'm

448
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 1: cool with it and I'm like grounded and I feel

449
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: like having all that structure with neighbors and having those

450
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,880
Speaker 1: people just shoving cameras in your face and being around people,

451
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 1: and it's kind of like a single swim situation, you know,

452
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,479
Speaker 1: filming all the time, and it's a teamwork environment. So

453
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 1: if you go in there and don't know your lines,

454
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 1: you know, you're in the bad box kind of thing.

455
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 1: You need to know. That was my question. How long

456
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 1: do you get to own lines? Because I see highlighted lines.

457
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 1: So we basically get our So we get a block

458
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 1: of six episodes weekly and then we film six episodes

459
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,880
Speaker 1: a week and I work five days a week there

460
00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 1: so generally, so today I've actually had a day, which

461
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 1: is pretty much why we're doing the podcast, which is cool,

462
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: but yeah, we're just constantly constantly filming. I film out

463
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,679
Speaker 1: of order as well, which is pretty wacky because I

464
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 1: could be filming something an emotional scene, and then I

465
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 1: could be filming something that's three days later and it's

466
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: actually a happy scene, you know, So you have to

467
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 1: know you're coming and going and you have to constantly

468
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,199
Speaker 1: be feeling the emotions. And it's really it's it is

469
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 1: quite overwhelming the job because you're feeling all these emotions,

470
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 1: you know. But I feel like it's really made me

471
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 1: feel things that I used to block out a lot,

472
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: and it's a really good thing for me. Yeah, and

473
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 1: this is a question I wasn't planning on asking until I.

474
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 2: Was really like, I just kind of like I really

475
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 2: dove deep and to learn as much as I could

476
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 2: about you and being a musician and being an actor.

477
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Speaker 2: Do the two overlap as far as your process goes?

478
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 2: So when you just said you have to do an

479
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 2: emotional scene, do you sometimes listen to music that can

480
00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 2: help you feel that emotion?

481
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: So for me, I think about pretty like weird things

482
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 1: in my head to get really emotional, like certain people

483
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 1: that might have hurt me in my past, certain situations

484
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: that I might have. You know, it's sometimes because we

485
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: work so fast. Do you need to have it on tap? Yeah?

486
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 1: I kind of have to think what am I going

487
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: to think about to make me really emotional. I sort

488
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 1: of put myself in a really weird situation, and I

489
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: mean sometimes it makes me feel sick and stuff, so

490
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: you've got to shake it off. But I sometimes struggle,

491
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: though to cry. There's some moments where I'm like, man,

492
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 1: I can't cry. But it's just like it's like writing

493
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: a song. Sometimes I sit there and go, I don't

494
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: even have nothing. I have nothing, I have nothing to

495
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 1: put on this paper, like, but some days I could

496
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: just be like word vomit. Yeah, it's such a weird thing.

497
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 1: Creative lifestyle and what we do and what we're passionate about.

498
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 1: It's such a it's a weird world that we live in.

499
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Speaker 1: You know.

500
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Speaker 2: The reason my assics is just last week I did

501
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 2: a master class with an actor called Cody Ferns.

502
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 1: He's an Aussie.

503
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 2: He's on the assassination Gianni Vasacih on Netflix. Watched If

504
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 2: You Haven't an American horror story and Househi's like an

505
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 2: Aussie that's just flying at the moment, amazing, And I

506
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 2: was watching him kind of like teach actors his process. Yeah,

507
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: and I could see that music was used a little bit,

508
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 2: but he was all about like do the work, understand

509
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: your own psychology. Yeah, and it's a bit like what

510
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 2: you were saying. I can tap into old memories and

511
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 2: be like, well that person made me feel really shit,

512
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 2: and then you can bring that to the moment.

513
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

514
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 2: And then but the thing that I didn't even think

515
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 2: of is like, how if do you shake that off?

516
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 2: Like especially if you've got to a scene half an

517
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 2: hour later or a few hours later and be like, shit,

518
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 2: well this scene is and like you said, it's not

519
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: in order, So it's not like this bad things just

520
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 2: happened and now great things happening.

521
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 1: It could be before or so weird. Yeah, E've been

522
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 1: going on break. We had four weeks off and we

523
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: were filming the thirty fifth anniversary and it's it's insane

524
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: that Neighbors has been around for thirty five years. Firstly,

525
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: and the stuff that we're doing in the storylines that's

526
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: that I involved in is out out of this world.

527
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: Of course, it's very dramatic, but which is typical. Yeah yeah, yeah,

528
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: but it's like a set like we were saying, it's

529
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: so emotional, it's draining of your soul. And then we

530
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 1: kind of went on four week break and we had

531
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 1: we still had stuff to film. For the thirty fifth anniversary.

532
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 1: So it's like the first day back, first two days back,

533
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 1: I was just emotional wreck, crying. Yeah, we're back into

534
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: the screen of things. Have you done any official training

535
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: or have you just learned on the job. I have

536
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: done acting training over the years, like sporadically, I've never

537
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: been like, yeah, let's go every week because I want

538
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 1: to just be an absolute animal at it because I

539
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 1: was so focused on music and yeah, so it's been

540
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: like a funny thing because working on neighbors has neglected

541
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 1: music a little bit. But I still obviously I just

542
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 1: I don't have the time I used to. But they

543
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: also don't they tap into your musical talent. They do,

544
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: which is great. And I put out two singles last year,

545
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: like this year, I'm going to be putting out music

546
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 1: and it's it's special that I guess to do it

547
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: in a different way, you know, And I think that's

548
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: the beauty of this is there's no rules. You can

549
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,239
Speaker 1: kind of what I like to do with what I

550
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: love is just keep pushing on to keep writing. And

551
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: that's the thing. Like from when I was eighteen to

552
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: twenty five, I've got that many different songs that I've written,

553
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: and I don't like to stick to one thing. I

554
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: just like to explore and take opportunities and learn. And

555
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: if I don't like it, then cool, I just do

556
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: something else, you know what I mean. Yeah, question about

557
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: this is more of a musical question.

558
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 2: Last year you went to London, Yes, according to my

559
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: instagram s talking.

560
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: I remember being like this chick doesn't stop. No. Last

561
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: year was nuts. Did you do Britain's Got Talent? I

562
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: did Britain's Got Talent the Champions so that was from

563
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: all over the world. Winners got to were invited to

564
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Speaker 1: be a part of this compu board in the house down. Ah.

565
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 1: It was. It was a really really intense thing going

566
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: back that was ten eleven years ago or something. I

567
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 1: did the Ossian Talent and then going back and doing

568
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: this with Simon Cowell in front of me, and yeah,

569
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: it was. It was scary, high stakes. Yeah, and it

570
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: was like this is where it's originated from, the Britain's

571
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,959
Speaker 1: Got and there was some awesome and even competitions. They

572
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: freaked me out. Man, I'm like, oh man, this is

573
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: too much for me. But it was great. It's good

574
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: just to get out there and do it.

575
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 2: You know, and so when you did that, I also remember.

576
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,239
Speaker 2: I can't believe I've got the weirdest memory. I can

577
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 2: remember everything. I don't know why. But then you also

578
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: did like appearances on TV with the actor that plays

579
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: Carl Carl.

580
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: Oh, yes, that was all the morning shows I did.

581
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: So I've done two trips to London. I'm getting my

582
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: London trips. Yeah, well it felt like I was there

583
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: all the time, you know, just back forward. But I

584
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 1: did a trip for like promotions for my.

585
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: Single, so so that's single promotions. But then I did

586
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 2: Cross Like.

587
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: Which was really full on as well, but awesome. And Carl,

588
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: who Alan Fletcher plays, he was there at the same time,

589
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: which was really special. He plays my uncle on the show,

590
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: and he's just like the King of Bloody Ramsey Streets.

591
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: He's got the best voice. I remember when I was

592
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: real young.

593
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: Like ten or something, I was doing a voiceover for

594
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: like a kid's storybook and he was walking out of

595
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: the and he.

596
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: Had this incredible voice over. He's got such a distinct voice. Yes,

597
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: I told you Actually, you've got a very distinct voice.

598
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, I do it.

599
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 2: So I've been doing a year of acting school but

600
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: I've been doing dialect coaching as well because I'm so

601
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: my accent is very Australiana.

602
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I love it, but.

603
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 2: I'm trying to understand it a little bit more for

604
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 2: like American dialect and stuff like that.

605
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: It's so hard. Yeah, oh man, I doing accents so bad.

606
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, because I start doing like I mix them

607
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: all up together. Yeah, it's just not happening. But I

608
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: do say it is like.

609
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: Riding a bike, like once you've got it down, like muscle. Yeah,

610
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 2: and it's just using We'll see you understand the voice,

611
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: like yeah, you'd probably pick it up faster than most people.

612
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: Well, I hope, so I should start doing that. You've

613
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: inspired me. I'll put you in touch after. I'm like, hey,

614
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: you going.

615
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 2: It's an endearing thing. So again I'm jumping around a

616
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: little bit. But what when you were doing your time

617
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: in La what made you go Nah? I want to

618
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: come back to Australia.

619
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: For a while. I think let's well, let's chat about

620
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: this a little bit. Because of what happened with me

621
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: is I think as an eighteen year old I sort

622
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: of got a bit like tired of not being around

623
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: my friends. It got really intense, you know, and like

624
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: we said earlier, when you're young and you're in the

625
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: spotlight and things like that, and I mean my mind's

626
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: on a different, completely different level to like Bieber as such,

627
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: and he was pretty solid. But it's you know, it's

628
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: for anybody doing something that's like a lot of pressure.

629
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: You know, you've got people watching you, You've got people

630
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: judging you, and a positive or negative whatever it may be,

631
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: they are you are putting yourself out there for people

632
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: to have an opinion kind of thing. So for me,

633
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, this is just on miside this.

634
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: I just want to party with my friends and just

635
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: hang out. But with La was incredible, but I ended up,

636
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: you know as well as like I was spending so

637
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: much money going over there as a young girl. I

638
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: was just waiting for the next gig and things like.

639
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: I was like, well, how am I going to bake these?

640
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: How am I going to earn like or in a

641
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: house of my own one day? But I was just

642
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: I always worked so hard, and I think at that

643
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: time I was like, man, I just want to chill.

644
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: And I think that's when I came back and obviously

645
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: I haven't really gone over since I've been on neighbors

646
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: as well. But even after I turned probably nineteen twenty,

647
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: I had like a couple of years off from going

648
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: back and forward to LA and I was just like, ah,

649
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: I've had enough. I just want to relax. I want

650
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: to get to know me a bit more. And honestly,

651
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: I feel like that's when I, you know, I met

652
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: I met a boy when I was eighteen, and I

653
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: kind of that was when I started learning more things

654
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: about myself. And you know, even I was a little

655
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: bit of a rebel at that stage and I just

656
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: wanted to be like, just be me and just be

657
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: able to do whatever I want it and things like

658
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: that because I started feeling the pressure a bit. And

659
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: looking back, it's so interesting because I feel like I'm

660
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: so glad that I did all these things because I've.

661
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: Done enough for a lifetime. Honestly, I wouldn't feel like

662
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: that for you, because.

663
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: You're in it.

664
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, people would dream of like one third of your career.

665
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: It's been fun. It's been fun. It's and I think

666
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: that I feel like it's more the beginning now because

667
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: I've just all of that stuff was just you know,

668
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: I know, it's like the old saying that we all

669
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: that it's.

670
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: The beginning now you watch No No, But I think

671
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: you're right because you have had the gift of like

672
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: breaking certain industries quite young.

673
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: It's now you know you get to really go this

674
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: is who Bonnie is. Yeah, it's quite an empowering moment.

675
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: Like you said, like I like myself now you know

676
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: you're saying that two years ago you were like my pimball.

677
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. A lot of stuff that you care, you care

678
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: about that you don't need to.

679
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: One more question just about the ala Melbourne or Australia thing.

680
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: They feel like very different industries energetically.

681
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: Like one is like yeah, go go, go, go go, anything.

682
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: Is possible, never a bad meeting, Da da da da

683
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: yea And Sydney sometimes has that little bit of a

684
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: feel about it yes too, whereas Melbourne feels more grounding

685
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: to me and quite solid.

686
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit slower sometimes totally slower, man, it's

687
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: just it's everything slower here. Yeah, the pace is just

688
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: like like a snail. But I mean, I love but

689
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: I'll never ever say anything bad about Australia. Man, it's

690
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: my favorite. I could be living in La now, but

691
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: I do. I love being my family. Yeah. I love

692
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: being home, Lila, I love my babies. Yeah. And I

693
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: do love it there though, like I said, because there's

694
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: people that are killing it over there and they want

695
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: bigger things, they want better things, and they you know,

696
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: you'll go to a gig and you get up and

697
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: sing and everyone's like yeah man, whoa, Yeah, like yeah,

698
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: and you say that here like whoa when someone looks

699
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: at you like, what the hell are you yelling out?

700
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,959
Speaker 1: You know, that sort of stuff is really interesting here

701
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: because it's because I still I'm me, like I'm gonna

702
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: if I love someone and I'm going to scream out

703
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: and go, yeah you're amazing. That was great. But some

704
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: people are really like in the shell here. Yeah. Yeah,

705
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: they don't like giving someone too much. Well, that's also

706
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: tool poppy in Australia is very a thing. Yeah, yeah,

707
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: it's very real. Okay, you've answered that perfect.

708
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: The next thing I want to know is, so there's

709
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 2: this beautiful side that we see, which is like not

710
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: instant is the wrong word, but you know, like the success,

711
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: the you know, the acting, the singing, but is there

712
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: and it's the entertainment industry. Is there like a darker

713
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: side to the entertainment, like you mentioned earlier, you know,

714
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: a lot a lot of managers wanted to be involved

715
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 2: in like I know from my own personal experience, Like

716
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: some managers are amazing, but some aren't the right fit

717
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: for you. And when that happens, it can be really

718
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: hard not to take things personally.

719
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, I've learned a lot where trusting people. I'm

720
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: such a big people person and a giver. I'm a giver,

721
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: I'm a lover like every runs my family. I love you,

722
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: and you know I'm big. It's throwing that word around,

723
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: and I think that I really do love people. But

724
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: I think, you know, when it comes to business and

725
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: things like that, you've got to hold your ground. You've

726
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: got to hold your cards close to you. And I've

727
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: learned that firsthand just by being so young and trusting

728
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: people and looking up to people in this business and

729
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: knowing that they've been through certain things and they've done amazing,

730
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: incredible things. And I'm going to listen to you, but

731
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: I think for me, when you are, you know, going

732
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: out there and running a business, like whether it be

733
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. I'm not even talking about entertainment,

734
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: but that's just what I know because that's what I've done.

735
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: But you really have to be strong in your decisions

736
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: because people can walk all over you. And I feel

737
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: like that's something that I've really really learned, and I

738
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: just I'm always really kind, I feel. I feel like

739
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: I just want to be a good person and then

740
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: want to be grateful for every opportunity and be grateful

741
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: for people putting in any time or effort into what

742
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: I'm doing. You know, that's that I'll forever be thankful

743
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: for that. But I really do believe that you have

744
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: to be stern and yeah, be grateful and all of

745
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: that stuff, but don't let anybody bloody f you around,

746
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

747
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 2: You can totally be kind and strong at the same time. Yes,

748
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: And that's been a big lesson for me too. I'll

749
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 2: be like, oh, but I was so nice that person.

750
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 2: They just totally dicked me over, you know.

751
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: And it's easy for kind people to get taken for

752
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: granted a little bit, yes, and and kind of feel

753
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: sorry for someone, but then it ends up stuff and

754
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: you're around, you know, I feel sorry for them though, Yeah,

755
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: they actually don't really care about you.

756
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 2: You've got to trust your intuition on you to go,

757
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: and I think not to make it too much about

758
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: the entertainment industry, but that can be amplified because people

759
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 2: do want to get ahead.

760
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's business. Yeah, you know, and that's that's

761
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: what you've got to remember. And that's what I have

762
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 1: to remember as much as I'm like, yeah, they're my family,

763
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: they love me. I love that, of course, but you

764
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: know there's money involved. Yes, things involved, and you don't

765
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: want to think about that too much, but you've got

766
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: to be you've got to be savvy. Yeah. It's almost

767
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 1: just like an awareness than anything else. I think totally.

768
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: The people that.

769
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 2: Really like have a long lasting career. Like you're watching

770
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: the Taylor Swift doc. I like kind human, but that

771
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: she's strong. She is strong, Yes, And anyone you look

772
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 2: at that has survived and like really thrive, you'll find

773
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: that they've got this this assertiveness about them. They're not

774
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 2: apologetic about it. They're just like, hey, let's do this,

775
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 2: but let's work hard. And that's the next thing I

776
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: wanted to ask you about. One thing I've learned at

777
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: acting school is there's all these talented people, Like there

778
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: are a lot of talented people out there. But the

779
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: thing that ah, you would say it was singing as well.

780
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're everywhere everywhere.

781
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 2: The thing that's missing, though, is so it's what I'm

782
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: learning is there's this rare combination. It's when the talent

783
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 2: and the creativity is met with the hard work discipline

784
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: one percent.

785
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: You know what, I've even noticed that because you know,

786
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: I've seen people that are an incredible singer and even

787
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: more so in my opinion than a certain other person. Right,

788
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: I might like their voice and more than the other person,

789
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 1: but the other person is a harder worker. Yeah, and

790
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 1: they will get further. You know. It all comes down

791
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: to how much work you're going to put in, and

792
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter about your telling. If you're going

793
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: to sit on your ass and just expected to come

794
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: on a silver platter, then it's not going to happen,

795
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: you know. And I think you if you believe in

796
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 1: yourself and you put it out there and you work

797
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: for it, you're going to You're going to get somewhere.

798
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: And that's that's that's a definite thing.

799
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 2: The reason why I asked is because I remember when

800
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: we came to your sorry launch next day, you were like, oh,

801
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 2: I'm flying out to Sydney first thing tomorrow and I'm

802
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: shooting a video and I was like, holy shit, this

803
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: girl doesn't and then I found it very inspiring. It

804
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 2: was like infected. But that is although it might not

805
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 2: feel like that's a very strong work ethic because you

806
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: don't really you're always focused on like you said, it's

807
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: next yeah, and like, yeah, you're doing Neighbors this year,

808
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: but like you're like, I'm bringing most music out, like

809
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 2: you're finding a way.

810
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. And last year was the first year I've

811
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: ever really kind of taken control and done everything myself.

812
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: I've you know, initially, well, it's sort of it's hard

813
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: because I was used to always being the young girl

814
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: that people kind of did things for me or would

815
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: come up with I'd come up with ideas and be

816
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: the person that always write the songs and things like that.

817
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: But like last year, I was like, this is what

818
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: I want to do. This is the song I'm going

819
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: to put out, this is how I'm going to put

820
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: it out, this is what I'm when I'm going to

821
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: do it. I want to go here, here, and there,

822
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: and I want to do all these days at Neighbors

823
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: at the same time and then shoot a video on

824
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: the weekend and then doing launch, like you know, all

825
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: these things were happening, and we even with the launch,

826
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: like I organize everything myself down to a tea, and

827
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: I thought and it made me feel so it actually

828
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: made me feel great, Like I was like, this is

829
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: so cool that I could do it myself, and I thought, yeah,

830
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: I can. I can actually do this. Yeah, and it's cool,

831
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: and it made me feel like it's more true to

832
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: what I want to do anyway. And people are going

833
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: to believe. They're not gonna believe bullshit. You know, they

834
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: can see bushit from a mile away. So for me

835
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: putting out music that I believed in and I had

836
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: no expectations, I just wanted to do it because I

837
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: wanted to and I loved it. So that's kind of

838
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: where it came from. And it was good. Last year

839
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: was busy, man, but I loved it. Love it. Yeah,

840
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: you didn't stop.

841
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 2: But also I like that you said, like, down to

842
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: that launch, like you organize it all. That means you

843
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 2: would have organized the DJ. Yeah, organized the guest list.

844
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: I think it was you that was writing to an

845
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 2: instag Hey, am I going to see you there? Here's

846
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 2: the invite, Like I think people don't know all my

847
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: book launchers I do the same way, like down to

848
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: the food, down to the catering, down to the location.

849
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: And I've just done one event recently.

850
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 2: Where I'm working with other people and no one works

851
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 2: as hard as you on something that's yours. Yes, and

852
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 2: they're great, like it's been great, but I'm like, oh wow,

853
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: like it's more fun for me to actually and it's

854
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: not in a control freak way.

855
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: It's just that I work a bit harder. Yeah, that's right.

856
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: And I think because it's your baby, well, that's the thing.

857
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: Like we're watching you as well over the years, and

858
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: like I said, I followed you before I met you,

859
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: and I was like this, it's so great to see

860
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: when you wrote your book and then all of these

861
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: things that I was like, man, I'm inspired by that

862
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: stuff because and even the way your your positivity and

863
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 1: your energy and things like that, I love that because

864
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: it makes me. That's what's something I'm focusing on this

865
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: year as more as like more than what I was

866
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: doing last year, you know, watching shows to give me

867
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: some inspiration on acting. And then you know, I'm reading

868
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: a book at the room. It's like this happiness plan

869
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: and I'm just trying to like how good is that?

870
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: It's so good and I don't usually read as well.

871
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh reading, I hated it back in the day.

872
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 1: But I'm just trying to make changes. Like even I've

873
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: never been a big drinker, but I've stopped drinking for

874
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: this year. I'm like a year.

875
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: I'm not going to drink just because older that with you,

876
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 2: because I've had a drink since Newyear's Day, So I'll

877
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 2: jump on that with you.

878
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: I love it. And it's not even the fact I go,

879
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: you know, we go to these events and things like

880
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 1: that and go to you know, show our face and

881
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: all of that stuff, and people the first thing they'll

882
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: say is you want to drink, And I'm like, nah,

883
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 1: I'm cool, I don't want.

884
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 2: Most people don't realize if you've got a glass of

885
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: water in your hand. They're like, she's fine.

886
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, They're like, it's vodka. Totally. It's totally.

887
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 2: And I think as well, it brings this sense of clarity.

888
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 2: And I think if you want to work as hard

889
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 2: as what you're saying, you know, neighbors, music, running, e

890
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: race kind of thing, yes, and you just got to

891
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 2: be clear. Like I notice in with me when I

892
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 2: eat sugar, I'm not clear. I can feel it for

893
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: two days three days after. I'm like, Lola, don't compromise.

894
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: See, I'm that's one thing that I'm bad with sugar.

895
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's the next thing. I've got like

896
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: a bit of chocolate in there. It's just in there

897
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: just in case.

898
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: It's I mean, it's harder than you think. The sugar,

899
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 2: the heart, the sugar thing is really hard. But I

900
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 2: know for me, it's like if I bring it back

901
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: down to clarity and feeling clear and actually feeling like

902
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 2: I can achieve all these things, yeah, it actually helps

903
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 2: you work harder totally. And that's what I thought. I thought,

904
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: you know, if I don't drink for a year, I'm

905
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 2: going to see what.

906
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: Happens and see if it's definitely beause I'm not even

907
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: a big drinker anywhere. I never know what I feel

908
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: like when I go out. I'm like, well, I don't

909
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: even know. I don't like the taste of it. So

910
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, stuff, and I don't need it.

911
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: So I thought, how much more can I get done?

912
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: How much better am I going to sleep? How much

913
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: better my skin, look, you know all those things and

914
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: I was like, maybe my head would be clearer. Oh,

915
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: think clearer, And that's what that's my plan anyway, So.

916
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 2: Smart if you I think as well, if you look

917
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: at people that are super successful, they'll have something where

918
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 2: they don't have that. There'll be something like they're not drinkers,

919
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: or some people are anti coffee.

920
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm very pro coffee. Is you love coffee.

921
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 2: But you know, people have their little thing like you've

922
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 2: seen probably Doccos with Steve Jobs, he was like a

923
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 2: fruitarian for a while.

924
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: You know.

925
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 2: The most successful really is they've got a really like

926
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: a quirk, or they've got something that they've been willing

927
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: to give up.

928
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: Yes, And I think that's very important.

929
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think like you you touched on it being

930
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 2: in La, like you gave up your social life at

931
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 2: a time when like socializing is super.

932
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: Oh of course, like as a as a teenage out

933
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: a passage, what you're doing, Yeah, everyone's going out and partying,

934
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: and you know it was like I was really jealous

935
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: at that time. I was like man like and I

936
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: used to cry to my mom all the time. I

937
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: was like, man, I never you want to be a

938
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: kid I really just want to go have fun and

939
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: dance with my friends. But and momus, it wasn't like

940
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: it wasn't there. You know. Mom would be like, well,

941
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: if that's what you want to do, then you're welcome

942
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: to Bonnie, Like that's cool. She didn't like make me

943
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: stay there. But then I'd think to myself, wake up

944
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: to us, because I loved music more than anything, more

945
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: than going out.

946
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 2: And now we're a village filling my water.

947
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 1: And this was not the kittens at all. I don't

948
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: want to it's just Lola is there somewhere after I

949
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: grab a teatael or something. Oh, don't you know, let's

950
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: just let it. Are you sure? Yeah, that's all right,

951
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: just ruining body's kitchen table here? Well we're no. Yeah.

952
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: I think it's just like if you can give up

953
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: certain things. And my mom used to say to me

954
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: even like it's is all those things going to be

955
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: worth it? You know, when you've you've had, because she'd

956
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: be like, my point of reason, So if you've had,

957
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: if you've got music that you're doing and you want

958
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: to do that and that's the most important thing, then

959
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: do it, Bonnie. And then she'd say things like you

960
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: can party later on. You know, you can have fun

961
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: going anywhere. You're going anywhere. And that's what I thought

962
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: with alcohol, was like you know what I'm when I'm

963
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: sitting back and I'm like, yes, I've done it. I'll

964
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: have a bloody champagne and celeb It's not like a

965
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: lot of pressure. I'm not like I'm never going to

966
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: drink again. But I just want to put challenges out

967
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: there and put goals out there and just achieve them.

968
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, he knew to do that.

969
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 2: It's amazing the energetics of that alone, of just choosing

970
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: to like because it's a form of discipline. Yeah, And

971
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 2: I think hard work is disciplined totally. And I think

972
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: success comes with a whole lot of like we were

973
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 2: saying the talent versus work ethic, I think it comes

974
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: with the truckload of discipline.

975
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, another thing I.

976
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: Learned this course. He just kept going do the work, guys, Like,

977
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 2: do the work. The work, be over prepared, Like he's like,

978
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 2: don't just know the scene, know the whole play.

979
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: If you're in a play back to front, know you're

980
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: a rider. I know, Like, yeah, I imagine.

981
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 2: That's very very very hard for television, But it just

982
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: made me think shift as I don't work hard enough,

983
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 2: like and.

984
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: We never I feel like there's never like an end thing.

985
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: Now I work hard. Yeah, you can keep going, you know,

986
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: like just your brain can keep thinking, you can keep achieving.

987
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: You know, it's all that. Just work your butt off.

988
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: Now. One thing you've touched on a few times and

989
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 2: I've pumped it kind of like you've kind of said

990
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 2: that you're a deep blubber like and you've got a

991
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 2: big obviously got a very very big heart, and I

992
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: imagine like even listening to your music and you definitely

993
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 2: don't have to go into specifics about heartbreak, but would

994
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 2: you say, like heart like matters of the heart and

995
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 2: heartbreak have taught you a lot of lessons about yourself completely.

996
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I've had a lot of intense relationships.

997
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: I feel like my long term relationship and then well

998
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: mainly one really that was like a longer one. But

999
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: I did learn a lot because I feel like there

1000
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: was just a lot of times where we went so

1001
00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: super compatible. Yeah, but I remember just it was very

1002
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: intense and I feel like my heart is so big,

1003
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: it is so hard and I love to just be

1004
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: there for somebody and just protect like with everything I've got.

1005
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: And that's kind of something that I've always noticed about myself.

1006
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'm just need a chill out of it.

1007
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 2: No, But I think true creatives, like artists, they love deep,

1008
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: thank suber deep. It's like a different type. I actually

1009
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 2: think it's a different type of existence a creative. Yeah, feel

1010
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 2: everything you do. The fact that you've got kittens in

1011
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 2: here that you've saved, you know, like you're a lover,

1012
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 2: like as soon as I saw you, like big hug,

1013
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 2: like yeah, yeah, I think this is what I love about.

1014
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: And Matt, my boyfriend, often talks about. He said, like

1015
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: heart matters of the heart for creatives and even heartbreak

1016
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: for creatives are this beautiful gift as well?

1017
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 1: Oh completely, I wrote it, manys. I was like these

1018
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: songs man, and that's a song I wrote last year.

1019
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: Was sorry, yeah, oh I didn't write it last year.

1020
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: I put it out last year, but it was one

1021
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: of my love that song too. Yeah, thank you and

1022
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: for me, like I listened to the lyrics and it's

1023
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: very it brings me back to a powerful time in

1024
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: my life where I kind of just stood there and

1025
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: I remember I was in LA and I wrote it

1026
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: and I thought, man, this, this guy is just hurting

1027
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: me over and over and I just keep going back.

1028
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: I'll keep going back to him and back to it.

1029
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: And I thought, man, am I ever I'm kind of

1030
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: speaking out of like, you know, quite deep here, but

1031
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: I think it's just it's good to talk about it

1032
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: because a lot of us go through you know, we're

1033
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: all in relationships. Yeah, sometime in my life and this

1034
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: song was you know, about me going you know, I

1035
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: actually am a strong woman, and I feel like I

1036
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: lost a lot of that as I was going through

1037
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,959
Speaker 1: this relationship. I lost I started doubting myself more and more,

1038
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: and I lost a lot of faith in myself and

1039
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: probably even my career and a lot of stuff. It

1040
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: just kind of took over. And I was very young.

1041
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: I feel a lot of that had had a lot

1042
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: to do with it. And this moment when I wrote

1043
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: this song, I thought, you know what, and the lyric

1044
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm not giving in to you because the truth still hurts.

1045
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: You're not the man I used to know, you know,

1046
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: the truth came out of the liar's grave. It's like

1047
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: it's it's very much like such.

1048
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 2: A good song and it's just singing and I'm like,

1049
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: just bust it out, mate.

1050
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: And it's just like sorry, won't turn back time. And

1051
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: that was the main thing for me, because you know,

1052
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: I was always such a sucker with you know, I'm

1053
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: so sorry, I'll never do it again or whatever it

1054
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: may be. And as soon as they give me that,

1055
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: you know, I love you and no one will love

1056
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: you like I do, I'm like, okay, I love you, man.

1057
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: But that's the thing that as a woman and as

1058
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: a young girl, I remember thinking, oh, I just I'm

1059
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: someone that will just stick by somebody no matter what,

1060
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: you know. And this song really helped me overcome that, going,

1061
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: oh man, I deserve better than this. I can't keep

1062
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: giving if they're just kinda keep taking, you know.

1063
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 2: I think any female listening to this, though, will have

1064
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 2: been in a relationship where there's a lot of take

1065
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 2: is the wrong word.

1066
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 1: But everyone's been there a similar thing. Yeah, yeah, big time.

1067
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: Even my I'm very pro therapy, and my therapist was like,

1068
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 2: when would you like to stop dating narcissist slola?

1069
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, yeah, you.

1070
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 2: Know, And it's that same like you think that it's

1071
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 2: good when it's good, but when it's not good, it's not.

1072
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,720
Speaker 1: And I would read read things on you know, narcissis

1073
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 1: because I don't really you know, my mum would say,

1074
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: you need to look this up and I would read

1075
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: it and go, man, that's weird. It's kind of like

1076
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: their faces sitting right next to the word. But it's

1077
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: it's sad because oh, we've got Taylor Swift.

1078
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: Anyone listening to this, you have to watch the Miss

1079
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 2: America Taylor Swift doc o.

1080
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: It is very it's fun that happens. This must be

1081
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: ghosts in the house. Man. Yeah, but I think it's

1082
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: really important to know you're worth for starters and and

1083
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 1: you know, we all do have to go through these things.

1084
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 1: And like I said when we first started, I don't

1085
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: regret a thing, no way. I just can't know.

1086
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 2: And I mean find every relationship or maybe that was

1087
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 2: the big, not yuck one, but the heartbreaking one. As

1088
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 2: time passes, you're like, oh, I'm so lucky because we

1089
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 2: had that.

1090
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 1: We had that.

1091
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: He taught me that about myself. Yes, he taught me

1092
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 2: that I don't want to lose my strength. And then

1093
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 2: you start to go, oh, my god, thank you so

1094
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 2: much because you made me the version that I am

1095
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 2: now with my partner, I wouldn't have been that version

1096
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 2: without all these other Like and I always say, Matt

1097
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 2: thinks I'm like almost a bit too yodory about it.

1098
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm grateful to all your ex girlfriends because

1099
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 2: they've made you the person that you are today that

1100
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 2: I'm dating, and all my past experience have made me

1101
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 2: the person. Like it's totally make sure, really grateful for it.

1102
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and as much as you know, we've all been

1103
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: through certain relationships and there's obviously there's great times in

1104
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: all of them. You know, otherwise you wouldn't have been

1105
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: with yess And I don't don't want to be like

1106
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: a whole sad sack, but I think you're right, Like

1107
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 1: you do learn. You learn things from people, and they people,

1108
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: they like those quotes you read. People come into your life,

1109
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: you know, for a reason. And you know, right now

1110
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: I'm in an awesome relationship, happy, you know, loving laughter

1111
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: and that's cool for me because you guys have fun

1112
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: to watch.

1113
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 2: And I said, like I was researching you and the

1114
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: Daily Tally had done like the story on you guys

1115
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 2: eating chips at this.

1116
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: Do you know how funny it was? So we were

1117
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: at the Australian Open. You know how when you're sitting

1118
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 1: in that room, it is silent, like you can hear

1119
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: a pinion.

1120
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 2: I was.

1121
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: I was actually filming myself trying it because I thought

1122
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: it was hilarious. I'm trying to eat these chips so

1123
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: silently and it's impossible. And then I didn't realize that

1124
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: some of what he was taking photos ofs and it

1125
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: was just such a funny thing.

1126
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,439
Speaker 2: I think you literally like put the chip in your mouth,

1127
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 2: pulled it out of your I was like you saying,

1128
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 2: only body that's so good though, Like, yeah, it looks

1129
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 2: like there's a lot of.

1130
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: Like goofing around and f and I think that's the

1131
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: most important thing with any relationship. You've got to be

1132
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: able to be real with yourself and be silly. And

1133
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm the biggest goof all. Like I'm so not perfect

1134
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: and that's like, like I said, I've made mistakes many times.

1135
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: I've said stupid things in interviews. I'd say something or

1136
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: I can't even get a word out, and I'm like that,

1137
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: you know, like it's just certain things like that, But

1138
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: who cares. Nobody cares? Who cares about that stuff? I

1139
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: think it's all about just living in the moment and

1140
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: having fun.

1141
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 2: And I think people want to relate to you anyway,

1142
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 2: so I don't think like I love bloopers, Like I

1143
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 2: don't know you, but I'll watch a movie and then

1144
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 2: I'll google the bloopers, all the behind the scenes or

1145
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 2: the like, I'll research it and I like, when did

1146
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 2: they stuff up? And I love seeing that people like

1147
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 2: they're not so perfect stuff. Yeah, I can't believe I've

1148
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 2: already been going for it, so like it's we're nearly up.

1149
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: I know.

1150
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 2: Is there any like failure or lesson or anything that

1151
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 2: you like, I know we've talked a little bit about

1152
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 2: heart and stuff. Is anything where you're like, no, no,

1153
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 2: I want to touch on that before.

1154
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: I think the main thing I learned last year was

1155
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: the biggest lesson of my life just to stop giving

1156
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: in to people that won't give to you kind of thing.

1157
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: And I think that's my biggest lesson is just at

1158
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you're in your own mind,

1159
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 1: you're your own person, You're an individual, so you have

1160
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: to find the strength in you and like love yourself

1161
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: before you can love anyone else. That kind of thing,

1162
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: you know, and I think that's honestly, Like I hear

1163
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: that all the time. I see it all the time

1164
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: on quotes, But it's really something that I learned because

1165
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: and also not always letting yourself be in a shitty

1166
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: situation just because of love in a way, you know

1167
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: what I mean, just kind of being you have to

1168
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: be stronger than that, I think, And I think that's

1169
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: one thing I learned with love and all that stuff.

1170
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: I used to think, Oh my god, love is everything.

1171
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: Love is. I don't care if I'm living in a

1172
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 1: bloody shoe box on the side of the road, I'm

1173
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: going to be there for love kind of thing. But

1174
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like that's that's not happiness.

1175
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: And if someone's like not giving you the fulfillment that

1176
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: you need, and I feel like that's not love really

1177
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. If you kind of

1178
00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: get what I'm doing.

1179
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, there's like that lust, that initial kind of

1180
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: like oh, intoxicating. Often that is it's kind of like

1181
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 2: maybe it's not.

1182
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1183
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 2: I read this really cool quote and it was like

1184
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 2: real love is a cool love, Like there's compassion and

1185
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: there's like this camaraderie. It's like a team mate, and

1186
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 2: it's it's a teammate, you know, as opposed to, oh,

1187
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 2: this is fire, and you can totally have that as well.

1188
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: But like when it's just that Romeo and Juliet style love,

1189
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: yes it's not. They say that's not super realistic for

1190
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: real love. No, real love is just kind of like, yeah, team,

1191
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: which team having conversations, being a mate, looking after another,

1192
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 1: you know that sort of stuff.

1193
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: But I love what you said about like last year

1194
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 2: was the you kind of figured out, Like it sounds

1195
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 2: like to me that you've come and I'm going to

1196
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 2: sound like.

1197
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 1: An old lady friend trying now, but.

1198
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 2: Because I am nine years older than you're, like, it

1199
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,240
Speaker 2: sounds to me kind of like you've got to this level.

1200
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm going to start marching to the.

1201
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 2: Beat of my own drum and I'm gonna bloody love it. Yeah,

1202
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 2: And that's kind of what it feels like you're kind

1203
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 2: of saying.

1204
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: And I am. I am, And I'm feeling like a

1205
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 1: bit of an inspirer, you know, inspiring weirdo. I say

1206
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 1: so many strange things lately, but it's so interesting because

1207
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: I think, Wow, that all these things that are coming

1208
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: out of my mouth, I really feel. And I used

1209
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: to think, oh god, that quote. That quote I think,

1210
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: but I'm obsessed with just being a positive bundle of positivity,

1211
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: you know, and that's that's what I feel pushes me

1212
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,479
Speaker 1: along and makes me a better person really, And.

1213
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 2: I think what you put out, you get back, and

1214
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 2: please stay in inspiring widow quote unquote, because I think

1215
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 2: we need more of it, and I think that. I

1216
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 2: was talking to my best mate. I was like, if

1217
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: we pull this thing off, we've both got this little plan.

1218
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 2: I'm if we pull this up, I'm going to totally

1219
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 2: trust in the universe because there are a lot of

1220
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 2: hiccups in life, and Instagram only really shows the highlight reel,

1221
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 2: which is why this podcast totally exists, because I want

1222
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 2: to look at the times where you're like, fuck, yeah,

1223
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 2: that person took advantage of me, or they told me

1224
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 2: to do that thing, or and it was for them

1225
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: not me, you know, and.

1226
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: I'm making silly decisions, and then you know, there's been

1227
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: so so many times where I'm like, oh man, I

1228
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: work so hard but have no money, like things like

1229
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 1: that is welcome to the life of a creative I

1230
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: imagine I am. That's people like to know that stuff

1231
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: because it's like you see that Instagram thing. Yeah, and

1232
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: you know I'm sitting there posting things that are happy.

1233
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,760
Speaker 1: You don't want to post, you know, sad things anyway,

1234
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: because no one wants to really see that.

1235
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 2: No, people do want to feel inspired and possive, and

1236
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 2: I understand.

1237
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's important to explain, like, there's been so many

1238
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,919
Speaker 1: tough moments in my life and I'm sure as there

1239
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: has been for everyone else. So yeah, but I'm in

1240
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: a good place now and it's just yeah, it's nice

1241
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 1: just to be able to wake up and feel free.

1242
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 2: You know, you're gonna You're gonna laugh me saying this,

1243
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 2: and I won't keep you for much longer. But do

1244
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 2: you know one of the most googled things about you?

1245
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: Do you want to know? What is it? Bonnie Anderson

1246
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: tattoo neighbors.

1247
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 2: So it's like the techas, don't you have to cover

1248
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 2: up some of your tattoo on? So if you've got

1249
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 2: a rose and a gun, is that right?

1250
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 1: I have a rosen a gun and the gun gets

1251
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 1: covered every day. Yeah. So this actually, this tattoo is

1252
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: my my favorite tatoo. I got this in La I

1253
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,240
Speaker 1: remember I was sitting there for hours one day. It's big,

1254
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: pretty big, and I was like, fell asleep even when

1255
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: I was getting I loved it. You're probably the only

1256
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: person that falls asleep. I couldn't believe. I was like,

1257
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: I'm really tight.

1258
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 2: It's literally needles of going into your.

1259
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: Bodies having a little But the gun represented like a

1260
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: difficult or any difficult time in my life or just

1261
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: a crappy moment, a crappy feeling, and and I love

1262
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: the sort of the contrast between this and then the

1263
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: gun is shooting out a rose, which is the rose

1264
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: is what I like to look at me blossoming or

1265
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: coming out of it for the better, and you know,

1266
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: overcoming a certain time. So that's that's a story behind them.

1267
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: So glad, I asked, Oh.

1268
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 2: That is so because it is true, like from every

1269
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 2: yucky situation, something does bloom, Like there's that even song lyrics,

1270
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 2: it's like the light always comes after dark bakness, Like yes, you.

1271
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: Know it, and you hear people write about that and

1272
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: it's so true.

1273
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's a contrast in everything A well, yeah,

1274
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 2: they say you can't have I've been watching Kobe videos

1275
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 2: after so many and he someone said, how do you

1276
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 2: feel about death, and he said, well, you can't have

1277
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 2: light without darkness, and you can't have life without death,

1278
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 2: so we couldn't be living without and we're all going

1279
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 2: to all this time it's sealed. I'm a hand talker,

1280
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 2: and that's the second I've not my water bottle over,

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Speaker 2: Matt's going to kill me.

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Speaker 1: It's like you ruined the whole.

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Speaker 2: And and he said, yeah, the price you pay for

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Speaker 2: life is death.

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Speaker 1: And it's so I mean, it's sobering, let's be honest.

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Speaker 1: But and I actually my voice coach said to me,

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Speaker 1: it's too interesting. The price you pay for life is death. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's that's sobering. That's quite more than my but it's

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Speaker 1: it's really we all we all live this beautiful life

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Speaker 1: and we have to be grateful to be on the

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Speaker 1: in this earth, you know, and then that's what happens

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day.

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Speaker 2: Hey, well, and it comes back to this light and

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Speaker 2: dark and you were just touching on it. Even my

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00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 2: voice coach says, he said, we're all going to die.

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Speaker 2: And he said, but if you're an artist, the fact

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Speaker 2: that you can create art, he goes, that's the page.

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Speaker 1: He's like, that's your consolation.

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Speaker 2: Prize, like you get to create art that people might

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Speaker 2: feel something from, like whether it be listening to your

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00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: music or seeing you on TV or seeing acts like

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Speaker 2: and that can live on beautiful, but it's evoking something within.

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Speaker 2: It's not it's not a materialistic thing and is a feeling.

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Speaker 1: In their heart totally. And I was like, oh.

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Speaker 2: Man, you are totally selling me on this creative life.

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Speaker 1: Gave me some shimmers. Yeah, amazing, but you really you

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Speaker 1: forget to think about things like that.

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Speaker 2: It's very you're telling you should remind you that every

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Speaker 2: day yeah, dark and light yeah, and the negative brings

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Speaker 2: the blooms the positive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And that's when I got that. It was like

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Speaker 1: another moment of your life that you're going through and

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Speaker 1: then you're like, oh yeah, I've overcome it, like writing sorry,

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Speaker 1: like all of these little moments in your life. And

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Speaker 1: I just like to keep reminding myself that just things

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Speaker 1: are going to be cool. And the more you think

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Speaker 1: that way, and the more you do better things in

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Speaker 1: surround yourself around better things, it's just going to be better.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, stay and inspiring. Wido.

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Speaker 2: Please thank you Bonnie Anderson, You're incredible, Lola, thank you.

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Speaker 2: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,

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Speaker 2: thank you to our guests and let's continue the conversation

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