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Speaker 1: Mix one at four point nine dot com for all

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Speaker 1: the latest news and information. Now three sixty with Katie Wolf.

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Speaker 1: Everyone is listening Mix one O four point nine one

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Speaker 2: Earlier in the week, we learned we'd have a new

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Speaker 2: Deputy Prime Minister, Barnaby Joyce, rolling Michael McCormack to return

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Speaker 2: as the Nationals leader and the Deputy Prime Minister, Barnaby

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Speaker 2: Joyce joins us on the line right now.

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Speaker 3: Good morning to you, Good morning, how are you very well?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 3: Firstly, you're heading to Darwen on the weekends.

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Speaker 4: Looking forward to getting up to Darwen. It's the first

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Speaker 4: trip I make will be to see the good territories

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Speaker 4: and to basically say gooday, find out what's going on.

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Speaker 4: And quite obviously I'm going up with my colleague, Senator

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Speaker 4: Sam McMahon and the colp have one of their serious

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Speaker 4: functions that determine the direction of the nation and it's

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Speaker 4: I know that you have some brilliant candidates that will

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Speaker 4: be part of that reselection process. But I'm a loyal

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Speaker 4: person and I stick with my mates.

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Speaker 2: Well, and so is your mate, Senator Sam McMahon. Is

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Speaker 2: that who you'll be sticking with?

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Speaker 4: I think it's important that. Yes, Look, I get along

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Speaker 4: very well Sam. I think that the reason the Northern

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Speaker 4: Territory has two seats is because of the efforts of

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Speaker 4: Sam McMahon, and otherwise you would only have one Federal

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Speaker 4: seat in camera. And that's just one example. Her support

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Speaker 4: of life cattle trade, her support of development of the

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Speaker 4: Northern Territory, her support of proper representation down here, her style,

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Speaker 4: which is very territory and it's robust and to the point,

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Speaker 4: is important. And this is not to diminish from other candidates,

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Speaker 4: you know, but you can't. You can't go to the

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Speaker 4: races and back every horse, and you've got to decide

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Speaker 4: which one you want to back. And I know we

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Speaker 4: have other we have other seats that are going to

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Speaker 4: come up into play. We've got obviously Warren's resigning from

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Speaker 4: Lingiari and Solomon's is always a tight run thing. So

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Speaker 4: a good candidates who might be might succeed in the

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Speaker 4: Senate race, would be excellent candidates in other seats that

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Speaker 4: we must win if we are to remain the government.

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Speaker 3: Well, Barnaby, I like what you said there.

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Speaker 2: You can't back every horse in a race, but you can,

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Speaker 2: you know, usually it's hard it is pretty hard sometimes

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Speaker 2: to work out which horse you're going to back, and

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Speaker 2: in this situation, Senator Sam McMahon is up against some

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Speaker 2: pretty tough challenges from the likes of just Enter Price,

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Speaker 2: who is liberal aligned. Is that why you're going down

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Speaker 2: the path of backing Senator Sam mcmahont Well, the last.

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Speaker 4: Thing I'd ever do is diminish with an incredibly decent

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Speaker 4: and hard working person, and what a great candidate just

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Speaker 4: in the Prices the first and foremost. You know, new

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Speaker 4: friends of silver and old friends of gold, and you've

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Speaker 4: got to make sure that it would be to be

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Speaker 4: frank a little bit treacherous with me to decide I'd

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Speaker 4: step away from a colleague and show support for someone else,

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Speaker 4: because one is the person you've worked with, who's worked

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Speaker 4: with me doing such things as securing two seats in

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Speaker 4: the Northern Territory, doing such things as standing side by

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Speaker 4: side with me when we've been fighting issues such as

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Speaker 4: making sure they don't journey back into a closure of

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Speaker 4: the live cattle trade, fighting for issues that bring about

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Speaker 4: the development of the Northern territories through the Northern Australia Policy.

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Speaker 4: That's the person I work with and I find no

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Speaker 4: fault in the person in Sam McMahon, So why would

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Speaker 4: I be supporting anybody else.

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Speaker 2: Don't usually look too much on Twitter it's but it

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Speaker 2: is an area that over the weekend there was some

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Speaker 2: accounting the votes on the weekend at Perisher doing the

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Speaker 2: numbers for you? Was Senator Sam McMahon doing the numbers

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Speaker 2: for you on the weekend.

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Speaker 4: I can honestly say this, I have no knowledge of

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Speaker 4: that whatsoever. Now, the way it works, you never ever

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Speaker 4: do the numbers yourself, if there's such a thing, because

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Speaker 4: the only answer you ever get is I'll vote for you.

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Speaker 4: And so if other people elsewhere were trying to guess,

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Speaker 4: if build every person in any political party and any

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Speaker 4: trying to work out the numbers. Would I mean, tell

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess the question here is though, should she

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Speaker 4: Well, that is an issue that a lot of us

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Speaker 4: have to contend with, which is between sitting weeks. Between

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Speaker 4: sitting weeks, do you go home to be there for

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Speaker 4: I drive? If I drove home, I literally won't even

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Speaker 4: with the kids in the car. By the time I

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Speaker 4: get home, it's time to get back. And the other thing,

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Speaker 4: of course, with COVID, people are terrified right now I'm

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Speaker 4: going too far away from Canberra because if something goes wrong,

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Speaker 4: you can't get back to work. And then you're doing

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Speaker 4: this doing it via video. And I'll tell you right now,

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Speaker 4: that is very second. That is very secondary, very secondary

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Speaker 2: All right, Bobby, Let's talk about a couple of issues

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Speaker 2: which are high on the agenda here in the Northern

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Speaker 2: Territory and in other farming regions in Australia. One of

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Speaker 2: those is the workers shortage. We've spoken to nt farmers

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Speaker 2: on numerous occasions about this and the problem is getting

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Speaker 2: more acute. They're ready to bring a group of one

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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty six workers from Vanawatu needed to fill

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Speaker 2: some of those fruit picker jobs for an upcoming mango season,

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Speaker 2: but the problem is there's nowhere for them to quarantine

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Speaker 2: at this point. Or they're certainly waiting to see whether

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Speaker 2: they can get approval for some of the quarantine ideas

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Speaker 2: that they've got. NTA farmers have put in proposals for

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Speaker 2: Blade and Point or for Howard Springs, but realistically they

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Speaker 3: What do you reckon needs to happen here?

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Speaker 4: Well, one of the big things that the National Party

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Speaker 4: going to be essential because there are so many areas.

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Speaker 4: I've had people from as far south as the seed

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Speaker 4: and they all say the same thing. If we don't

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Speaker 4: so we've got to try and get these tho when

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Speaker 4: so you know, we got I think we've got to

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Speaker 4: look down the path of ag visas and realize that

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Speaker 4: this is not taking Australian jobs. This is the reason

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: When we had the Prime Minister in the studio not

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Speaker 2: too long ago, he spoke, well, we all spoke about

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Speaker 2: this proposal to use bladan Point. But there does seem

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Speaker 2: to be some hurdles with this facility. I mean, does

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Speaker 2: the federal government maybe need to look at providing some

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Speaker 2: more support though, because I take on board what you're

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Speaker 2: saying about those ag visas. But right now, you know,

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Speaker 2: we need to sort something out pretty well straight away

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Speaker 2: so that these mangoes don't rot on the ground.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we have to move as quickly as we possibly can.

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Speaker 4: Now I don't know about I know who I'm going

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Speaker 4: to get the pronunciation right right, bladon Point, you got

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Speaker 4: it right. So so I can't comment on that, you

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Speaker 4: that's the sort of direction everybody's going now. It's a

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Speaker 4: amongst themselves, but it's we've got to get workers in.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there is going to be I think in

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Speaker 4: the long term people are going to have to realize

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Speaker 4: that with vaccinations, we're living with the virus. We're not

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Speaker 4: getting rid of the virus because it's in many instances

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Speaker 4: inoperable on an economic basis. Without without there being the

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Speaker 4: and such as ways you can do the jobs that

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Speaker 4: need to be done.

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Speaker 3: Barnaby, we are fast running out of time.

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Speaker 2: But I do want to ask you if you're going

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Speaker 2: to bring back your plan for a special Northern Australia

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Speaker 2: tax zone.

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Speaker 4: I've always supported a form of don't or taxation. I

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Speaker 4: think that we also also should have which is unanimous

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Speaker 4: policy of the National Party regional senators rather than I

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Speaker 4: know the territory and it gets two and that's probably

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Speaker 4: a good example, but rather than twelve senators per state

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Speaker 4: Across the other road in West Australia, there should be

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Speaker 4: because that would give the Northern Territory the fellow travelers

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Speaker 4: came to Cambridge to work as a block, well.

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Speaker 2: Look, I guess there are all things that we need

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Speaker 2: to look at. There's no doubt though, we want to

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Speaker 2: try and get more people living in regional Australia, don't we,

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Speaker 2: And places like the Northern Territory and the North you know,

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Speaker 2: we do want more people living in areas like this

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well this is one of the diamonds we've got.

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Speaker 4: People in Sydney don't want any more people and people

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Speaker 4: in regional areas are screaming out for them. In Tamworth,

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Speaker 4: we always talk about ourselves as the whereas my local

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Speaker 4: lectures the nine country music capital, but protein capital of

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Speaker 4: huge role on that if Tamwin's on the production, if

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Speaker 4: the meat workers and the sheet workers and the poultry

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Speaker 4: workers and the egg workers aren't work, then a large

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Speaker 4: section of Australia doesn't need eighty percent of the meat

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Speaker 4: and Wolworths with Lord and Tamworth and so it's it's

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Speaker 4: and for that to work, we need foreign workers.

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Speaker 2: Barnaby, can I just ask you finally, are we going

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Speaker 2: to are we going to be keeping Keith peat as

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Speaker 2: the Minister for Northern Australia.

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Speaker 4: Well, I never litigate. I never litigate cabinet positions on radio.

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Speaker 4: That would be the extraordinarily rude and exceptionally stupid. So

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Speaker 4: you know, we talk about all these things in the

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Speaker 4: course of time and with the people who had affects.

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Speaker 2: We'll always ask thy mate, We'll always ask Barnaby Joyce,

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Speaker 2: the Deputy Prime Minister of Australia. Good to catch up

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Speaker 2: with you, and and well, I hope you have a

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Speaker 2: good time here in the Northern Territory. I believe you're

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Speaker 2: good friends with one of our mates that's on the

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Speaker 2: show very regularly, Dave Tolner.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that is dangerously good friends with dangerous Dave dangerous.

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Speaker 3: I worry I worry about you pairs together.

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Speaker 2: Barnaby Joyce, thanks so much for your time this morning

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Speaker 4: Good one, thank you,