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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: Editor of The Daily Oz, is here. Emma Gillespie, Hello, Hello, Hello,

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Speaker 2: Well as a new show on Netflix, everyone is talking

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Speaker 2: about twenty million people around the world have watched it

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Speaker 2: and it's inspired new evidence to be put forward in

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Speaker 2: the case of the Menendez brothers.

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Speaker 1: Talk us through the case for those that don't know it.

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Speaker 2: So, this is a story about two brothers from a

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Speaker 2: very wealthy Beverly Hills family in nineteen eighty nine who

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Speaker 2: were convicted found guilty of murdering their parents in their

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Speaker 2: living rooms, so Lyle and Eric Mendez. They were eighteen

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Speaker 2: and twenty one at the time. The story goes that

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Speaker 2: their story goes that they went to the movies and

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Speaker 2: they came home one night and their parents were shot, killed,

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Speaker 2: massacred in their home. Now, they were eventually found guilty

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Speaker 2: of their murder. The real story, or the story that

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Speaker 2: were supposed to believe, according to the courts and the lawyers,

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Speaker 2: is that they premeditated the murder of their parents, They

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Speaker 2: shot them, they killed them. Now there is all money

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Speaker 2: fort well to inherit the fourteen US fourteen million dollar

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Speaker 2: estate at the time. But also there's an argument that

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Speaker 2: it was an act of self defense because there was

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Speaker 2: abuse in the home. The father was allegedly physically, emotionally,

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Speaker 2: sexually abusive, and so that's a whole other part of

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Speaker 2: this story. But it was a really high profile, kind

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Speaker 2: of very glamorous suburban family with this horrific thing that happened,

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Speaker 2: and the boys were in prisoned, and the boys have

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Speaker 2: been in prison since the nineties. Yep.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: So there's this new show. It's called Monsters. It's a

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Speaker 2: dramatization of events. It's from Ryan Murphy, who also made

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Speaker 2: the Jeffrey Dharma Show. He's known for doing a lot

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Speaker 2: of these kind of dramatizations of these sort.

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Speaker 1: Of Jeffrey Darma Show, La lal La, the cooking segment.

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Speaker 2: Yep. But yucky, yucky. There's new evidence now. It's been

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Speaker 2: foot forward. So as we often see with these stories,

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Speaker 2: whether it's a doco or podcast, a Netflix show, everyone

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Speaker 2: becomes really really interested in it and it might open

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Speaker 2: up new doors of inquiries. So we've got this letter

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Speaker 2: that's apparently being reviewed as possible new evidence in the case.

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Speaker 2: This was submitted to the La District Attorney by Eric Menendez,

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Speaker 2: one of the brothers, and the lawyers say that this

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Speaker 2: letter corroborates allegations of sexual abuse by the father, Jose Menendez. Now,

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Speaker 2: part of the kind of complicated factors involving the original

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Speaker 2: defense with this case was that at the time, the

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Speaker 2: court didn't take the abuse allegation seriously, that they didn't

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Speaker 2: consider that a self defense murder might have been motivated

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Speaker 2: by this alleged abuse because they didn't believe that the

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Speaker 2: abuse had happened. Now, Eric Menendez, the lawyers are saying,

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Speaker 2: we can prove with this evidence. Who knows what it.

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Speaker 1: Really is, so we don't know what the evidence is.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a letter, so that's all we know is

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Speaker 2: some kind of letter that corroborates the abuse, and that

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Speaker 2: they're saying that the court would be able to consider

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Speaker 2: this as proof that there was motivation for a self

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Speaker 2: defense act and that could see the boys get a

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Speaker 2: reduced sentence or be released completely. Now I say the

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Speaker 2: boys they're now at both aged in their fifties, were

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Speaker 2: there for fifties, they're in their fifties. And then enter

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Speaker 2: Kim Kardashian too the story. I know what you're thinking.

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Speaker 2: You can't have a Beverly Hills murder without Kim Kardashian

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Speaker 2: having her say in this.

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Speaker 1: Because isn't she She's studied law now and she's sort

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Speaker 1: of an advocate for people who've been misimprisoned, if that's

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Speaker 1: your word.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's, yeah, an advocate exactly as you say, for

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Speaker 2: the wrongly imprisoned. She's halfway through a law degree. She's

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Speaker 2: not quite done yet, but she's become an advocate in

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Speaker 2: this space. She wrote an essay defending the Brothers that

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Speaker 2: NBC News published last week. She said she's met them.

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Speaker 2: They're not monsters, They're kind and intelligent men. She wants

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Speaker 2: their sentences reconsidered. She said, we should not deny who

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Speaker 2: they are today in their fifties. Physiologically and psychologically. Time

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Speaker 2: changes us, and I doubt anyone would claim to be

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Speaker 2: the same person they were at eighteen.

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Speaker 1: I know I'm not, no, But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: there's a whole lot of people in prison who were

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Speaker 1: serving sentences for acts they did at that age. You

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Speaker 1: have you murdered someone at the age of twenty. Just

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Speaker 1: because you're older and you think I'm a different person now,

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Speaker 1: doesn't change that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, this is the other complicating factor with this

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Speaker 2: story is a lot of people are saying, you know,

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Speaker 2: both things can be true. You might have had a

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Speaker 2: horrific childhood with an abusive father and he might have

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Speaker 2: been a monster. You also could have premeditated his murder

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Speaker 2: and you could be serving a life sentence for that

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Speaker 2: as well. So it's this kind of question about whether

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Speaker 2: or not the abuse was handled fairly or sensitively.

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Speaker 1: Another course in the court at that.

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Speaker 2: Time there was a mistrial, a hung jury, a retrial

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Speaker 2: really really complicated. The cro creator of the show, Ryan Murphy,

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Speaker 2: who I mentioned, he's defended it. He says that Eric

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Speaker 2: and Leimanandez should be thanking him for bringing the case

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Speaker 2: back into the conversation. The brothers have criticized the show.

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Speaker 2: One has released a statement from prison through his wife,

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Speaker 2: saying that it's a complete false character assassination.

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Speaker 1: He's got a wife, would have been married while in prison. Yes,

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Speaker 1: there's a whole gaggle of women who are into that stuff, So.

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Speaker 2: That'd be that would be easy as a woman. You

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Speaker 2: marry a guy that's in jail, you know where.

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Speaker 1: He is every night, and he writes love letters to you,

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Speaker 1: the same as a Nigerian scam. It's the same thing.

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Speaker 2: Sexy pen pal sexy pen Pal one is cheaper, I think,

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Check it out on Netflix. Monsters