Speaker 1: We would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of this
Speaker 1: land that we record this podcast on and pay respects
Speaker 1: to the elders, past, present and emerging.
Speaker 2: We must always remember that under the concrete and asphalt
Speaker 2: that this land is, was, and always will be Aboriginal Land. Hi.
Speaker 2: I'm Rumby. Hi, I'm Amanda. Welcome to its lad In
Speaker 2: Studio a special edition. Can you Roomy was going to
Speaker 2: do that standard operating procedure. Where are we, Amanda? Oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, Roomby, Welcome to Melbourne. Thank you. It's been
Speaker 2: a long time coming and I'm so thrilled to be here.
Speaker 2: We're so happy that we could be together and doing
Speaker 2: it in video.
Speaker 1: This is the next level crazy, Like I'm just like,
Speaker 1: who are we? Where's our little laptop?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Literally, I feel so like, oh my gosh, where's
Speaker 2: my little zoom? You know? Press record? Have your press record? Well,
Speaker 2: we hope their preys record and are actually recording because that.
Speaker 2: But no, I'm so excited. I've only been here for
Speaker 2: about a day. It's still jet lag. But you know
Speaker 2: how we do have to get on the mic ready
Speaker 2: to go, you know, to bring you the goods, the
Speaker 2: good goods. Yeah, so I made you come to Melbourn
Speaker 2: rmbe Okay, do I have to have a reason to
Speaker 2: see you? Maybe, I don't know. No, definitely see you,
Speaker 2: to spend Christmas with you and see your rom. He's
Speaker 2: such a big boy. I saw him last at Christmas
Speaker 2: last year, so it's so crazy to see how much
Speaker 2: he's grown. And so we're just so happy to be
Speaker 2: here with the family and spend time with you and then.
Speaker 1: Get to do this like recording in studio, something you've
Speaker 1: wanted to do forever ages in person. So thank you
Speaker 1: to the team behind the scenes, getting us together.
Speaker 2: Getting us together. What are we going to be talking
Speaker 2: about today?
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's been such a long time since
Speaker 1: we've done our getting to know us I think season
Speaker 1: one and now in season five, and so much growth
Speaker 1: has happened.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, we're both.
Speaker 1: Married, now, I have a kid, Like, so many things
Speaker 1: have happened that like we thought, why not.
Speaker 2: Rewind and go back and also get better insight into us? Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna start off with a bit of an
Speaker 2: icebreaker because you know we're new to this. You know,
Speaker 2: we just got nice things today, Okay, and that's all
Speaker 2: I'm saying, I'm not gonna lie. So we're gonna start
Speaker 2: with a bit of an icebreaker. We're gonna pick a
Speaker 2: card from this job over here. If you're watching, So,
Speaker 2: Amana do the honors like he did, We love like
Speaker 2: you did, go for it? Am I asking you all
Speaker 2: my answering.
Speaker 1: Oh, who's the most likely to start a controversial conversation?
Speaker 2: I think both of us, but I think Amanda more.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna put it out there. Am I right?
Speaker 2: Am I? Yeah? I think me. Yeah, I just be like,
Speaker 2: let me ask. You're not afraid. I feel like you're
Speaker 2: not afraid of going there. So, yeah, who's naught here?
Speaker 2: Just because it's Christmas? You don't have to be asking?
Speaker 2: I would say, me tell us why. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. Actually, I think it's
Speaker 2: just you don't give a damn about more things than me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think you would.
Speaker 1: Probably you want to be, but you're probably overthink it.
Speaker 2: But you're also an overthinker. But I think not. You're nice,
Speaker 2: You're just like whatever. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also, you know, I think my mom not being around
Speaker 1: helps because there's no one to tell you the wrong. Wow,
Speaker 1: you said what are your social media it?
Speaker 2: Hey, I don't know. Everyone thinking they're an expert. That's
Speaker 2: probably the thing that irretates me all the time. Like
Speaker 2: I'm just like just because it doesn't mean you're all experts.
Speaker 2: And also people taking what someone says on social media
Speaker 2: as the bible. It's like, do your research, read an article,
Speaker 2: go and grab a tree, yeah, read a book, climate tree,
Speaker 2: walk barefoot. I don't know, do something with your life.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Don't get everything from social media?
Speaker 1: You know what I feel you with that because a
Speaker 1: lot of times, obviously now with momhood, people be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I've got the sleeping training schedule, Like if you do this,
Speaker 1: your kid will sleep through the night.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Then download my health Like, girl, like just tell us
Speaker 1: the secret. I don't need to be downloaded book. Oh
Speaker 1: yeah whatever, it is just like your e book. I mean,
Speaker 1: I love entrepreneurship, but so bo's just like.
Speaker 2: They hook you too much everything let me tell you
Speaker 2: or like when they're like let me give you tips
Speaker 2: and you're like, you actually didn't give me anytims. This
Speaker 2: is common Yeah, so true, so true. That's a cool one.
Speaker 2: What are your fashions? Oh, that's good for you.
Speaker 1: I think I've already shared on my social media a
Speaker 1: clip of Rihanna saying when people don't are not authentic
Speaker 1: to themselves, And I think that one definitely is for me.
Speaker 1: But also when people are stuck in the rat oh yeah, but.
Speaker 2: Then they don't want to do anything about it.
Speaker 1: So like you've already approached me, So I would assume
Speaker 1: you've already done the like emotional journey of going okay,
Speaker 1: I don't want to dress myself, but then you're not
Speaker 1: quite ready for the chick Like I'm okay to hold
Speaker 1: your hand over the line, but I can't convince you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so there's a fine line, like it's like okay, why
Speaker 1: are you here?
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you weren't ready to Also like.
Speaker 1: So do you feel like you have to be like
Speaker 1: a therapist? Yeah yeah yeah yeah, And it's fine and
Speaker 1: the person eventually comes around. But then sometimes it's like
Speaker 1: a lot of back and forth with emailing especially, and
Speaker 1: then you can't charge for that, right, and it's like
Speaker 1: my time is money at this and your time is
Speaker 1: also money.
Speaker 2: So it's also like okay, you want this done or
Speaker 2: do you really? Do you really? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So for me, it's quite hard Okay, let's see
Speaker 1: who's most likely to strike up a conversation with a stranger.
Speaker 2: Amanda, I think this is you. Like no, like I
Speaker 2: can in a situation be sociable, but like I like
Speaker 2: to avoid talking to people in general. I don't really
Speaker 2: like people. I don't know if i'm so any people
Speaker 2: of this.
Speaker 1: I don't like having people, but I love having a
Speaker 1: podcast talking to people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so of course that's why your one can strike
Speaker 2: up a conversation with strangers. I can do it if
Speaker 2: I need to. I've had to learn how to be sociable,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But like you've always been
Speaker 2: see people. I see you as a friend. So for me,
Speaker 2: it's so hard to see you not striking up. I
Speaker 2: feel like you do. Like even today when you picked
Speaker 2: up stuff, you're like, Hi, okay, she's on it. I'm
Speaker 2: just being polite. Like I don't ask them about their life.
Speaker 2: You will ask people at about your life, though, And
Speaker 2: you're very sociable, Like even when you were in school,
Speaker 2: you were like she was she talked about I'm very
Speaker 2: much an interviet I'm like, who are you? I don't
Speaker 2: need to know you, Like, give me my space. That's
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. So
Speaker 2: is it my turn? Okay? Sorry, I'm losing track. Are
Speaker 2: we doing all of these? I don't know. Okay, you
Speaker 2: can just girl who is gullible? I think the fact
Speaker 2: that you you that will be you. It's true. And
Speaker 2: y'all you and my sister actually like to make fun
Speaker 2: of me actually because you know how gullible I am,
Speaker 2: and then they talked him against me.
Speaker 1: This thing is you're also quite confident with it, like
Speaker 1: you're like, did you guys hear this song with this
Speaker 1: that was out a year ago or something?
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, I just heard it. It's like where
Speaker 2: have you been? And the funny thing.
Speaker 1: Is you love being like pop culture, and so when
Speaker 1: you find something that you don't know I really just
Speaker 1: know cute about it.
Speaker 2: And it's like, how does she like? Where did this?
Speaker 2: And I'm val word about a lot of things like
Speaker 2: it really just like misses me completely, so.
Speaker 1: But it makes you you. Okay, another pair. Okay, I
Speaker 1: don't know how much time someone timing us, because it
Speaker 1: could be here forever. Who's most likely to take off
Speaker 1: their earrings and grab their vesseline?
Speaker 2: Is that even a question. Guys, take a guess that
Speaker 2: would not be me, though, it would not be me.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I can't see I'm just saying that. But
Speaker 1: having said that, yes, I.
Speaker 2: Think if someone pushed you, I would, but I'm not violent.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm not violent. Yeah, but you you I
Speaker 2: use my word, Yeah, you'd use the words. I think
Speaker 2: you'd use your words before me. Yeah, I'll just be like,
Speaker 2: I don't think that's nice, but I reckon both of
Speaker 2: that's a huge tolerance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, before like, if you see me going there then
Speaker 1: and you and for me, I really don't like to
Speaker 1: be angry.
Speaker 2: So when you see me angry, it means like you've here.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah you yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's the people pleaser, and that's probably that's true.
Speaker 1: Some therapy is needed.
Speaker 2: Why do we always go back to therapy? I feel
Speaker 2: like every podcast episode goes back to we should get
Speaker 2: a therapy. Have we talked about that? This is our therapy, guys, Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is therapy. Thanks for being here in the session
Speaker 2: with us. Okay, all right, So now we're going to
Speaker 2: get into some other questions getting to know us. Still
Speaker 2: some fun, some a little more serious. So I'll start
Speaker 2: with a fun one. Okay, let's go. If I randomly
Speaker 2: showed up at your house at one am without telling you, why,
Speaker 2: what would you immediately assume is going on without telling
Speaker 2: me why? Assuming we live together? Yeah, this is like
Speaker 2: it's long.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think something happened with you and Tom.
Speaker 1: Oh it has to be that, Yeah, because I think
Speaker 1: Tom would never let you leave the house at one am.
Speaker 2: I'll come with you. That's so she wrapped up alone. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that actually got.
Speaker 1: I would think what's happened or what happened to Tom. It's
Speaker 1: either what's happened between you or what's happened to Tom.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think so. I think it's actually not a
Speaker 2: fun question now, but who put that under? Fine? I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's actually deep with you. I think for you to
Speaker 2: be like we're going out, yea, let's go, let's go,
Speaker 2: baby said I locked in, Let's go, turn up, turn up. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that would be you.
Speaker 1: I just think you would like overthink it. You'd be like,
Speaker 1: one am rocking up?
Speaker 2: Why am I doing that? Yeah? And also trouble would
Speaker 2: also be like where are you going? I'll definitely overthinking.
Speaker 2: I'm like I don't want to wake people up, it's
Speaker 2: too much, you know type of thing that's true. That's true.
Speaker 1: What's one story about us that you're definitely gonna tell
Speaker 1: your kids?
Speaker 2: Oh, how we thought we were sugar in high school?
Speaker 2: And then like I wrote a song and recorded it, like,
Speaker 2: let's cooreograph. We're gonna be in the interact variety show
Speaker 2: and show them how it's done. And we didn't show
Speaker 2: them how jealousy jealousy people blocked us. They really shut
Speaker 2: it down, shut it down. But I think that's so cute,
Speaker 2: Like what happened to that song? Needs to release? This?
Speaker 2: My sister had the CD somewhere and every time I
Speaker 2: listened back to like, cringe, cringe, cring, Why because you
Speaker 2: did record it in the studio? And yeah, I did
Speaker 2: it all that I think, But to be fair, like, oh,
Speaker 2: actually my son writing schools are not bad, like for
Speaker 2: like a fifteen year old's fifteen sixteen. Yeah, maybe one day,
Speaker 2: maybe maybe I re record. You know how these artists
Speaker 2: when they don't have rights to their masters and then
Speaker 2: they do already record. How that would be? I think
Speaker 2: such a full circle moment song. Yea, sony, you heard that?
Speaker 2: Please find it? Thank you? Okay, this is supposed to
Speaker 2: be a deeper question. What would most people be surprised
Speaker 2: to learn about you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Maybe that I'm very sensitive, Yeah, very very hyper sensitive.
Speaker 1: Yeah more than I like let it go on. I
Speaker 1: just keep it insides and I'm like a duck on water.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But then under there them legs be kicking, like I'll
Speaker 1: you know what you say about and I like replay
Speaker 1: conversations in my head.
Speaker 2: Should I say that? Should have? I remember in high
Speaker 2: school because for some reason, everyone felt they should emotionally
Speaker 2: dump on you, Like everyone used to go to a
Speaker 2: man and be like I'm going through this or whatever.
Speaker 2: And I remember you saying to me, what about me?
Speaker 2: And I think that's so true to what you're saying,
Speaker 2: because you do seem like the strong friend, you know
Speaker 2: when they say check on your strong friends. A man
Speaker 2: that definitely gives that energy. But she's also like a
Speaker 2: soft spirit inside. So that's an element that people. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what about you? Surprise that I'm an introvert? No, we
Speaker 2: all know the chain and shift don't.
Speaker 1: Actually Yeah, people who don't know you, Yes, they don't
Speaker 1: know because they're singing and the ad libbing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very much an intervert. I love my I
Speaker 2: can be alone all the time. I'm like, why do
Speaker 2: I have to go outside? Like why do I? I
Speaker 2: don't like people? I think I've already said twice, but like, yeah,
Speaker 2: but most people are like there's no way, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I learned to be a functioning member of society and
Speaker 2: have social skills, but they've always been for me.
Speaker 1: It's always been no way with you. I've never seen
Speaker 1: you as I could think what's the middle one and
Speaker 1: be ambivit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's what you are. Yeah, because yeah,
Speaker 2: you I don't know. Maybe I haven't whopped, No, I
Speaker 2: get it, but I think I can understand why what
Speaker 2: is an intro? Like people throw that word around? For me,
Speaker 2: I define it as I get charged up by being
Speaker 2: alone and people. Being around people takes energy out of
Speaker 2: me and a thousand percent does. That's why I'm like,
Speaker 2: how was I a teacher for so long? Because that's
Speaker 2: like the complete like energy drain. So yeah, definitely, all right,
Speaker 2: now you have to answer this question about me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what is something I can't live without? Ooh? Music? Like
Speaker 2: do I think that far? Actually that was a bit fast,
Speaker 2: Like sorry, this is obviously objects Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it will be music and for you something you can't
Speaker 2: live without. I would also say music because I think
Speaker 2: we really thrive on that wavelength.
Speaker 1: In another life, I am a singer, and the life
Speaker 1: our child like people I don't know, like Brandy, I
Speaker 1: don't know, sound like such a millennial. My reference points are.
Speaker 2: Sel you need to be saying a little uzy, what
Speaker 2: was what these baby little baby Beyonce?
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, you know, like I think, like when
Speaker 1: I see like, yeah, Beyonce is movie, what if I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, man, that would have been me? It would have
Speaker 2: been me on that stage. It's true, It's true. It's
Speaker 2: my voice. Didn't you have a voice. We're in quiet
Speaker 2: together for the longest, so yeah, but not yeah, but
Speaker 2: who's on Beyonce? So true?
Speaker 1: Okay, if you turned on the TV and saw me
Speaker 1: on a reality show, would show to be and what
Speaker 1: will I be doing on it?
Speaker 2: I think you'd be next in fashion? Claim it? Claim
Speaker 2: it because you like fashion, like think of that one. Wow,
Speaker 2: it just came to me because I was going to
Speaker 2: say The Real Housewives because I know you like it,
Speaker 2: but for you actually to be active on a show,
Speaker 2: I think you would be next in fashion. And I
Speaker 2: think you would be a stylist or a judge on there.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're really a like designer designer
Speaker 2: in terms of the suwing, but I think you'd have
Speaker 2: a lot of opinion about like how people put things
Speaker 2: together or helping people put things together, so like Next
Speaker 2: and Fashion or Project Runway, like Fashion Police. Yes, I
Speaker 2: can see you on Fashion Police. That's going to be
Speaker 2: my answer for you.
Speaker 1: People think like I think it's like a pop culture
Speaker 1: critic for sure. I don't know if there is one.
Speaker 1: Is there one? BuzzFeed is what buzz pop?
Speaker 2: E pop?
Speaker 1: It used to be on E some pop something see
Speaker 1: you know them already, So that's what I would picture.
Speaker 1: I cannot see on a reality show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have time for that. Yeah, people dealing
Speaker 2: with my My little note about reality shows is that
Speaker 2: like life has enough drummer, I don't need to be creating,
Speaker 2: like manufacturing for TV like relax. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I just can't see you arguing
Speaker 1: and going into all the like reality show is good,
Speaker 1: but people are arguing because that's why we don't watch
Speaker 1: it for happy days.
Speaker 2: We watched before you.
Speaker 1: Know, the drumming, no drums yeah, they'll drain your energy
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 2: I'll just be like, actually I don't need this and leave.
Speaker 2: And I don't think that next to the TV. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying, the producer will be like, Okay, that's not
Speaker 2: what we started up for. Okay, get in mode. All right.
Speaker 2: My next question for you is if you had never
Speaker 2: met me before, what would your first impression of me
Speaker 2: be after spending thirty minutes together.
Speaker 1: It would be totally wrong, but my first impression to
Speaker 1: be like, she's loud.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I think, oh my gosh, it's loud.
Speaker 1: She's super like you are super confident, but you know
Speaker 1: that's super confident.
Speaker 2: Where it's like she's yeah, like you know, run the
Speaker 2: room like yeah. I would be like, it's a lie.
Speaker 1: So that's why I think people will be like what, yes, true,
Speaker 1: because I think your first impression is the utter opposite
Speaker 1: of what you.
Speaker 2: Really self as. Yeah. I think maybe it's also a
Speaker 2: bit of projection or self preservation. You're kind of like,
Speaker 2: I put this mask on so people don't try to
Speaker 2: get so you go there first before they yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's why I think you would strike up
Speaker 1: a conversation with a stranger.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm not letting that one clearly. I'm like, but
Speaker 2: you are more into it, like you be like feeling
Speaker 2: someone just like so where are you from? Like when
Speaker 2: on holiday? Like, oh yeah, so are you traveling? I think,
Speaker 2: you know what, I actually think that's such an Australian thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe because Aussies love a good like yah or
Speaker 1: chat like more so than like even just joking around
Speaker 1: and like greet each other, even people walking past in
Speaker 1: the street like morning, I'm like, oh yeah, morning. You know,
Speaker 1: when you go to London and New York, people will
Speaker 1: be like, why are you talking to me?
Speaker 2: To me? Leave me alone? Somethink that's like an auto
Speaker 2: culture thing. Well that's true. I would definitely think you're
Speaker 2: like social butterfly, like friends with everyone, but you kind
Speaker 2: of are like you're friendly with it Amanda. For those
Speaker 2: who don't know, Amanda is like liked by many and
Speaker 2: all like you just have, but known by few. Could
Speaker 2: be true, but like I think, yeah, whereas for me,
Speaker 2: I'm just like I don't have to now it sounds
Speaker 2: like a mean person. I'm not meaning, but like, just yeah,
Speaker 2: you you you give room and space for people in
Speaker 2: a very like open way, like you're not afraid to
Speaker 2: talk to people, like you give people second chances.
Speaker 1: I'm very yeah, we work on the second chances thing, yeah,
Speaker 1: very much. You know you make mistakes, but I havn't
Speaker 1: said that. I also would let me it is the
Speaker 1: librand me, you're walking over be like, I can't be.
Speaker 2: Then I can be forgiving, but then I once I
Speaker 2: cut off, just like anybody at time for this. So yeah,
Speaker 2: that's true. What's your pet peeve? Then, when it comes
Speaker 2: to people who my pet peeve is people who think
Speaker 2: they're better than others, just like moving with that energy.
Speaker 2: I really dislike that because I'm like, you don't know
Speaker 2: someone's story. A lot of where we are in life
Speaker 2: is also like lack of the draw sometimes, like you
Speaker 2: don't choose where you're born, you don't choose how you look,
Speaker 2: you don't choose, and of course we learn and develop
Speaker 2: over time, but like, I don't think you're better than
Speaker 2: someone just because I don't know superficial things. It really
Speaker 2: frustrates me, Like it irks me, grinds my titties. I
Speaker 2: always say, really hate it, But yeah, what about you,
Speaker 2: what's a I think it's.
Speaker 1: The same, but more like maybe the obnoxious version. Well,
Speaker 1: people were poor listeners. Oh yeah, Like you're talking to
Speaker 1: someone and they're like oh yeah, then then I'm like okay,
Speaker 1: I yes, I don't get a chance to say anything.
Speaker 1: And there's a difference between someone who's loud and vivacious
Speaker 1: but the convo is like blowing, whereas someone who's just
Speaker 1: like blatantly not even listening to you, and like then
Speaker 1: I'm just like why why.
Speaker 2: Why are you even trying?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they don't realize it as well. Self
Speaker 1: awareness is a thing. It's crucial, Like I think we
Speaker 1: all have our flaws, but please can we know about them?
Speaker 2: And some eq yeah, gets some emotional intelligence, go buy
Speaker 2: it somewhere rented. I don't know, try try.
Speaker 1: There's nothing worse than telling someone something that's so them
Speaker 1: and they have no idea and then they look at
Speaker 1: you like no, I'm not like that eye the room
Speaker 1: is like oh yes you are, yes, you know, like
Speaker 1: at least no, okay, I can be like this.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't intend. But don't you think it's
Speaker 2: because it's hard for us to accept the not so
Speaker 2: great sides of us, So then we just cellino and
Speaker 2: I think only in adulthood. In the last few years,
Speaker 2: have I really come to be like, it's okay to
Speaker 2: you have the ugly side of you and embrace that.
Speaker 2: I really struggle perfectionists. We've was like a million times. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: what's something we've gone through together that's hilarious now even
Speaker 2: though it was not funny when it happened. Oh, there's
Speaker 2: so much So what relationship relationships? Lord, jeezuz so much
Speaker 2: A long way. Yeah, we've come a lot of it hilarious.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I have a story. Yes, when it
Speaker 2: was our leavers dance and then you have gone away,
Speaker 2: Thank my girl. I can't help it.
Speaker 1: It's the first tie that like just wand my livers.
Speaker 1: It's so so kind two thousand and two thousand and six.
Speaker 2: Six.
Speaker 1: Wow, I don't think people listening to this podcast aren't
Speaker 1: even born room.
Speaker 2: Don't say that, Okay, don't say that. But I remember,
Speaker 2: so my date flaked on me. I had a date setup,
Speaker 2: I was like happy with my date, and then my
Speaker 2: date flaked on me. And then last minute replacement replacement
Speaker 2: through someone and we were in class with and so
Speaker 2: this person ended up being super clean and just annoying.
Speaker 2: And it takes a lot to annoy me, does it?
Speaker 2: But like I found that time, I took a lot
Speaker 2: to annoy me, and he was super cleaning and was
Speaker 2: so frustrating, and I started running away this guy the
Speaker 2: whole night. And then I like go to a man
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh gosh, I remember we took photos
Speaker 2: and he wanted to be in the photo. And I've
Speaker 2: never been so rude. Yeah, like shut him down, like
Speaker 2: and running. I ran away the whole night. Then I
Speaker 2: think something happened with this brother having to go to hospital.
Speaker 2: He's like, no, I'll stay here with you, and I
Speaker 2: was like, don't go to go he needs please go, please,
Speaker 2: please don't stay. So that's a funny story, Like, but
Speaker 2: then I was so annoyed, Like it was just annoying. Yeah,
Speaker 2: being set up.
Speaker 1: By people before the age of the internet was not
Speaker 1: good because you're like, kin't even say, can you show
Speaker 1: me its profile?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, hello, you have to trust and quote unquote
Speaker 2: someone's reference terrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if someone told you had gone viral on TikTok overnight,
Speaker 1: what would you assume I was doing in the video.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm laughing. It's going back to
Speaker 2: the vaseline one. Oh my gosh, you're not going to
Speaker 2: be the people. But like I think we have a
Speaker 2: story where we were on holiday and we were traveling
Speaker 2: with some person and then they were causing drama and
Speaker 2: Amanda had had it like.
Speaker 1: She was here and she was like stop doing that,
Speaker 1: like and they cried, You're.
Speaker 2: Not gonna be and then she was like hold your friend,
Speaker 2: your sister whatever. Like it was so like I'll live
Speaker 2: forget her being so mad, and I was just like,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh. So like it's it's a viral moment.
Speaker 1: I think for you to be singing, I don't know
Speaker 1: why you're not singing room being Maybe I'm always sending
Speaker 1: you like I'm that friend someone's saying doing a TikTok challenge.
Speaker 2: I'm likebbe yeah, she send it to me, And I
Speaker 2: was like, waiting for your viral moment.
Speaker 1: And I'll just be the friend from the world and
Speaker 1: I'll be differendrom.
Speaker 2: Remember it's supposed to be my stylist. Yes, okay, I
Speaker 2: want to be differend. I want to be the what's
Speaker 2: her name, Melissa is it? Oh? Yeah, Rianna. I'll be
Speaker 2: a photographer something that I don't know that you can
Speaker 2: be a stylist. Okay, let's work. Okay, fine, you just
Speaker 2: come along for the ride exactly. Okay. The next one
Speaker 2: for you is what are my biggest green flags?
Speaker 1: Oh? How generous you are with your time, with your energy,
Speaker 1: which is so funny because that's maybe that's what's training.
Speaker 1: You're giving too much in the way, I think, so yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe keep something.
Speaker 2: That's why I keep the group small, like the friends,
Speaker 2: because I feel like I want to be committed, like
Speaker 2: one hundred percent, and and then if they're too many people,
Speaker 2: it's hard for me to be like, no, you only
Speaker 2: get ten percent.
Speaker 1: And you've always been able to see things from different angles,
Speaker 1: which I think when you that's why we're saying they're
Speaker 1: rolling vessel. And I'm like, okay, if I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: that friend, then I can't have I need you.
Speaker 2: Because then you're gonna be like girl, are you sure? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Right there. Some friends were just like Okay, it was hot,
Speaker 2: we'll be hot.
Speaker 1: There's some friends it's cold, now, will be cold, you know,
Speaker 1: whereas I think you'd be like, okay, but did you
Speaker 1: look at it from the different which can be very confronting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because obviously if you're sensitive about something someone says, have
Speaker 1: you thought You're like, no, just look at it from
Speaker 1: my ankle player, you know, but you're like.
Speaker 2: No, did you consider this? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I think that's a valuable thing for people to
Speaker 1: have in a social circle.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I'll take that shill for me. You're green flags.
Speaker 2: I think you're just like consistently there, like I don't
Speaker 2: know how to explain it, and non judgmental. I think
Speaker 2: I judge myself first, and then I'll tell Amanda something
Speaker 2: and think she's gonna judge me. She's like why the hell,
Speaker 2: Like no, there's no way I'll do. You're very supportive
Speaker 2: in that, and you care about the person's well being.
Speaker 2: So it's like I'm here for you as long as
Speaker 2: you can get because someone may be like, yes, you
Speaker 2: must get your ish together. I don't care, but like
Speaker 2: you're patient in that way. I love that about you,
Speaker 2: and I love that. I guess the whole premise of
Speaker 2: this podcast, right is like you can we can delve
Speaker 2: together and be like what about this? And it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: what about this? And it's okay to have differing perspectives
Speaker 2: on things. Yes, you know, even if you're good friends.
Speaker 2: And I think That's very important because you can't be,
Speaker 2: as we say, an echo chamber all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you're just loving and kind and just you really thoughtful,
Speaker 2: very thoughtful about others, thoughtful about whether it's gifts, but
Speaker 2: you really think about a person first and try to
Speaker 2: be there for them and make them happy in the
Speaker 2: way that they can receive, which is because sometimes you do.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you give what you would like to get, like
Speaker 2: I had, I was taking it. I'll give you this handback, girl.
Speaker 2: I was taking a course and this class meet was like, oh,
Speaker 2: his friend gifted him a Star Wars tea shirt and
Speaker 2: people are like, oh, do you like Star It's like, no,
Speaker 2: my friend and my friend is someone who loves Star,
Speaker 2: wasn't He was like, here's a T shirt? You know,
Speaker 2: so people could do that, But you're very considerate of War.
Speaker 1: I think there's libra energy. Do you have spend time
Speaker 1: as of libras? We're very like balanced really and I
Speaker 1: even think, Okay, the most famous one I can think
Speaker 1: of is Kim k Please. I don't know why I'm
Speaker 1: using as a reference point, but I am. But like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think she also has within the family strong stoic
Speaker 1: when she's actually quite sensitive. Yes, that's you know, the
Speaker 1: one who's thoughtful, the one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Libra. Sorry, I don't know much about time.
Speaker 1: You're Leo, which is why I don't know why you
Speaker 1: think you're an interit as a Leo.
Speaker 2: Do you know? I get you. I've been called the
Speaker 2: leo because we don't have a great rip. You're not
Speaker 2: a leo my mind. Your energy is not like but
Speaker 2: people tell me like, yeah, but you like attention and
Speaker 2: all that. So that's why I think the first impression question. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's I need to learn. Because there's the there's this,
Speaker 2: then there's the moon sight, what's the earth? Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: the time? So you have different yeah yeah, you have
Speaker 2: different elements, so I need to find out what the
Speaker 2: other thing is.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's what balance. Yeah yeah, yeah, balance is me.
Speaker 1: If someone told you I was arrested, please do not
Speaker 1: bring up the sale without giving any additional explanation.
Speaker 2: What's the first assumption you'd make about it and why
Speaker 2: they got the wrong person? Oh girl, thank you, you're
Speaker 2: a true friend. Because I was like, I was going
Speaker 2: to say then I'm like, actually, I'll be like, no,
Speaker 2: it's not that deep. Yeah, we're arrested girl. I'm too
Speaker 2: cute from she said, I'd be like and also a
Speaker 2: man is very like logical. She's like, I got a kid,
Speaker 2: I need to like, I support family. I had like,
Speaker 2: there's no time to be missed on that. It's not
Speaker 2: that deep.
Speaker 1: Unless it's false accusations. Yeah, but then funny thing is
Speaker 1: also being Zimbabwean.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine nothing?
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, people like, what were you doing? I
Speaker 1: think for you it would be again case of mistaken
Speaker 1: I cannot see it be.
Speaker 2: Really like, yeah, I think a suppose we overthink everything.
Speaker 2: So we're like trying to make sure you get all
Speaker 2: the road Definitely, I think so. And for you, we're
Speaker 2: on a road trip and you hand me the ors cable,
Speaker 2: what song of artists do I put on? First? Beyonce?
Speaker 2: Anything Beyonce first? You guys on my Spotify wrap, I
Speaker 2: was told that I'm with the one percent of Beyonce,
Speaker 2: and I'm like house sway, okay. I like Bey but
Speaker 2: not like you clearly do. I'm not like that. I'm
Speaker 2: not a b I really say I'm not a Bee Hyper.
Speaker 2: I don't think I think I'm a secret bee Hyper.
Speaker 2: I think so, But I definitely a hyper, I'm not certified.
Speaker 2: In my head, I'm like, I'm more of a Solange
Speaker 2: girl as much as she's not in your face like that.
Speaker 2: Do you think you like solangees vibe? Yeah, vibe or
Speaker 2: maybe Beyonce is more accessible I feel so, yeah, but
Speaker 2: so she's there. I like Solange songwriting. I like how
Speaker 2: she layers, you know, in her music so much because
Speaker 2: Brandy is one of my favorite artists. But when she
Speaker 2: does her harmonies, like she really and it's not so
Speaker 2: much about the power, it's about the intricacies. But on
Speaker 2: a day to day you know, I'll play Beyonce to
Speaker 2: be fair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think Beyonce people gets people HiPE each
Speaker 1: other way.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So like renaissance at the moment is just like if
Speaker 1: that's the moment, the restaurant is always a constant, but
Speaker 1: maybe more in the background. Yeah, like I'm cleaning, I'll
Speaker 1: put the Solange, but I'm going out beyond for sure
Speaker 1: for sure. But also don't like putting them against other
Speaker 1: That's what the.
Speaker 2: Completely different leagues of like totally.
Speaker 1: And also I think Beyonce we grew up with her, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know this since child we were growing up, she
Speaker 1: was that girl, she's like a big cis energy.
Speaker 2: Definitely, I think you If it's not Beyonce, I think
Speaker 2: you do like a burner. Some afro has been my
Speaker 2: top artist and four Yeah that's I love his raps.
Speaker 1: Just be giving me props for that. Berner, Yeah, definitely,
Speaker 1: I love his b D.
Speaker 2: Like he just gives you like that, come correct, correct
Speaker 2: otherwise I will miss up. He will tell you now.
Speaker 2: He's the one to face like what are you saying? Yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure. I watched this, like you know, these magazines
Speaker 2: have these YouTube interviews and he had to try different
Speaker 2: food or whatever. Literally was just like I'm not trying that,
Speaker 2: Like like he gives that and he's like, Nope, not
Speaker 2: doing that. He's sure of himself. Definitely, very sure. So
Speaker 2: I asked you about getting arrested. Are we doing? Where
Speaker 2: are we? Girl? We're finished. That's the end of it.
Speaker 1: I need to do run on ice breakst Sorry. I'm
Speaker 1: hoping for one certain one clearly, So why don't you
Speaker 1: just as he is most likely to write a book
Speaker 1: that the one I wanted, So I must answer.
Speaker 2: I think I would. I don't know. Do you think
Speaker 2: that's correct? Yes?
Speaker 1: Generally, and you should. I had this pipe dream of
Speaker 1: doing it while I was a maternity leader. Okay, any
Speaker 1: mother out there must be laughing at that now, because
Speaker 1: you're smung some When was I going to be in
Speaker 1: the middle of pumping and breastfeeding and doing all of
Speaker 1: that writing a book.
Speaker 2: But I have that on my heart as all that
Speaker 2: I want to What would you write about? Do you know?
Speaker 1: I think it'll be set as an autobiography, but it's
Speaker 1: not to be a story, but very heavily inspired by
Speaker 1: my life. Okay, you know, I think having like my mom,
Speaker 1: you know, terminally ill at a young age, it just
Speaker 1: gives you that life.
Speaker 2: Can I just say, that's a wild thing. Like when
Speaker 2: I think about it, I'm just like girls.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think creating itself is its own big So
Speaker 1: I think I want a story in and around that.
Speaker 1: And also the craziness of Zimbabwe, Like literally, if you
Speaker 1: think about the things that we face, like people talk
Speaker 1: about COVID, like, oh my god, you know, so much
Speaker 1: happened in two three years, and I'm like check. Coming
Speaker 1: from Zimbabla, we grew up thinking.
Speaker 2: Our country was mine, traumatized.
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden we're like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: now we have to leave too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then.
Speaker 1: Now like family dynamics are all warped because we live
Speaker 1: away from family. Like even Christmas, you coming over such
Speaker 1: a huge thing. Otherwise it's just going to be matile
Speaker 1: German and I having our food and calling it a day,
Speaker 1: like it's not a big thing. And I think people
Speaker 1: assume these things like you're close to family, But Zimbabwe
Speaker 1: is just like shattered that whole idea.
Speaker 2: And I think we grew up first because of the
Speaker 2: way I don't know, like pretty much.
Speaker 1: I mean knowing about economy and stuff like at a
Speaker 1: young age or not being able to afford Yeah.
Speaker 2: I always laugh. Remember when in history we learned about
Speaker 2: you know, the Second World War and also Germany hyperinflation
Speaker 2: and how they use wheelbarrows to go vibrand and we're like,
Speaker 2: oh ho, meanwhile, meanwhile, that was reaching around the corner
Speaker 2: for us.
Speaker 1: And I also find it quite sad that every term,
Speaker 1: remember school would give us a letter yes, and we
Speaker 1: obviously opened it sorry parents, and it would like have
Speaker 1: our fees for the next and then it won't be like.
Speaker 2: Say bye, maybe it won't be here next year. You
Speaker 2: don't know if your parents parents.
Speaker 1: It was very real, all right, yeah, it's true and
Speaker 1: the next time we'll be there.
Speaker 2: Thank you, parents, thank you, thank you for sure. Well.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed this episode. Was a nice like warm up.
Speaker 2: It's so surreal, so beautiful having you here. I'm pinching
Speaker 2: myself all the time. It hasn't registered for me, to
Speaker 2: be honest, like, I'm still like what, but so grateful
Speaker 2: to be here. Thank you. Amanda's welcomed this with such
Speaker 2: warm open arms and just grateful that we can do this,
Speaker 2: you know, the studio like definitely a moment we'll share
Speaker 2: with our kids. Bringing back here question definitely anyway, So
Speaker 2: thanks for listening and we look forward to catching on
Speaker 2: our next episode. Bye, guy Zitos.