1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: And our next guest is one of Australia's best known 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:04,559 Speaker 1: and loved comedians. 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 2: She was seen on our television. 4 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: Screens in the middle of the Jungle winning I'm a Celebrity, 5 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: Get me out of here. 6 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 2: And some of you may not be. 7 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: Aware, but she's also a former Territorian, living in Alice Springs. 8 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: For many years. 9 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 1: FI owner of Lachlan joins me on the line. Good 10 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: morning FI owner. 11 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 3: Hello, Yes, I was twenty seven years in Alice. 12 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: Oh that is a local? It does? It certainly makes 13 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: you a local? I reckon FI owner and the mania 14 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: using what's so sorry? 15 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 3: He's been there twenty five years. There used to be 16 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 3: a ball in our springs, but you could only go 17 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 3: if you'd lived in the town twenty five years. So 18 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 3: I I love it. 19 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: Well, many of us like to claim you as a territori, 20 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: and I mean you basically are. 21 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: Do you miss the territory? 22 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 3: I do. I miss that. I missed the Winker, I 23 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 3: missed the Centralian winter so badly. I love it. 24 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: Such a wonderful place. No, I bet you don't. 25 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: And well, Fiona, where are you living at the moment 26 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: and how's Lockdown been for you? 27 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 3: I'm living in Adelaide. I moved last November. This February 28 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: I moved and just before I didn't hurt anything of coronavirus. 29 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 3: But I happened to think I'm really living in Melbourne. 30 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 3: I must be. I've got to move to Oil, closer 31 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: to my family. Thank God. So I've spent Lockdown. I 32 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: loved it. I've taken it on as a lifestyle choice. 33 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: Now at Lockdown, I loved it. 34 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: You're one of the few who's enjoyed it. But look, 35 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: we've been pretty safe here in the territory. I think 36 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: we've got people moving here because you don't have to 37 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: live in Lockdown in the Northern Territory. 38 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 3: Isn't it wonderful? Everyone should move there for at least 39 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: five years in their life. 40 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: Seriously, well for you on. 41 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: Lots of people will obviously know you and love your comedy. 42 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: They'll also know you obviously from I'm a celebrity, Get 43 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: me out of here. 44 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: But many people might not be aware that you've. 45 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: Been battling alcoholism for many years and you've laid it 46 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: all there for your upcoming autobiography. Was it a difficult 47 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: process reliving some of those darker moments? No? 48 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: Really, I mean I don't think I'd say difficult. It 49 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: was every emotion you could have. But it was a 50 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 3: very joyous project. Your first time that I've worked with 51 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: another writer, because the title of the book is yeah, 52 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 3: true from an unreliable witness, and she just about We 53 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 3: had to because there's so much I didn't remember or 54 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 3: you know, a lot of reck, you know, to collect 55 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: and checking on dates and time. That was the trickiest. 56 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 3: But heaven to write it because I had a bigger purpose, 57 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 3: you know. I wrote it for my family, but I 58 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: also was always thinking of the constant relapser like me. 59 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 3: It's a huge part of the problem of alcoholism. It's 60 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 3: one of the nastier symptoms and it compounds you grief 61 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 3: in your Oh. It's just a terrible disease, and that 62 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: we're so lucky there is a way out. It's just 63 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 3: really tricky finding your way out. I got it. It's 64 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: like I got lost for fifteen years and I finally 65 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 3: found my way out, and I'm just I'm desperate to 66 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 3: go find out people and they come over here. It's 67 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 3: great this side. 68 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,839 Speaker 1: Well and Fiona, a couple of years ago, you were 69 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: hearing Darwin and you and I spoke at a lunch 70 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: that I help organize for. 71 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: The It's a Bloods Things Foundation. 72 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: And you've been so open about your battle and you 73 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: continue to be. It does sound as though it's all 74 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: that you've been fighting on and off for a long time, 75 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: and it is important to you to talk about it 76 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: and to really try and and stay on track and 77 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: help others to do the same. 78 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 3: Exactly because we all feel so when you're in the 79 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 3: midst of it, when you're inside of it, like the 80 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 3: active alcoholism, it's so uniquely lonely and so uniquely shameful 81 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 3: that that's why so many people, you know, a lot 82 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: of alcoholics die of shame. It's so tricky, this shame 83 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: and stigma. I mean, I know we're really annoying people, 84 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 3: our just real full flight. But once an alcoholic has said, okay, 85 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: I know I'm trying. I want to you know, I 86 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 3: want sobriety as well. You know, we've got to treat 87 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 3: people with addiction as we would anybody else with any 88 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: other disease, you know, because it can take your life 89 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 3: and then to have the guilt and shame on that awful, awful, 90 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 3: awful way to live. 91 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: Now, you made headlines this week and have been. 92 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: Basically, you made a lot of headlines this week beIN 93 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: her and it was all about the hand sanitizer, and 94 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: you'd admitted that you had drunk some of that hand 95 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: sanitizer in the jungle. 96 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a relapse in the jungle. And I 97 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: remember lying there freaking out one night, and you mind, 98 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: the mind of an alcoholic is that worst enemy, you know, 99 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 3: And my mind had said I knew that there was 100 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 3: that option because I heard about it in a rehab 101 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 3: how you can drink hands sanotime, but like going to jail, 102 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 3: and you might not all thought the tricks you don't need. Yeah, 103 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: and once you made the decision to do it, you 104 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 3: might as well already have done it, you know, because 105 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 3: you send off these endorphins out of your mind and 106 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 3: you know it. Yeah, you're already relauted before you even 107 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 3: keep the drink, if you know what I mean. 108 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, you know, see, I know what I love 109 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: about you, and and obviously you know I know from 110 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: when you were here a couple of years ago for 111 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: our lunch that. 112 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: You're so open and honest. 113 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: And I think that it's such an important thing for 114 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: people to hear because we know that in Australia. There 115 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: are a lot of people that are going through alcoholism, 116 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: and I just think it's really brave the way that 117 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: you speak about it and the way that you lay 118 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: it all out on the table. 119 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much. Well, I'm very lucky because 120 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 3: you know what is what? Why would I be quiet? 121 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: You know what's to be quiet about. I'm not ashamed 122 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 3: of the disease, horrified at my behavior. That's not ashamed 123 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 3: of the disease. And unfortunately these behaviors are another symptom. 124 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: Of course, drunkenness is a symptom of alcoholism, and it's 125 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 3: very tiring, particularly for your loved ones. But yeah, I'm 126 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 3: not going to stop talking about it until I wish 127 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: it was something sexier. I had. 128 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: No happy with that. 129 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: Well, there's going to be people listening this morning who 130 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: are so glad that you know that you are speaking out. 131 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: And obviously your autobiography I love the title, Truths from 132 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: an Unreliable Witness Finding Laughter in the Darkest of Places 133 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: released on October twenty seven, so it can. 134 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: Be found online or at any good bookstore. I'm imagining, 135 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: yes right now. 136 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 3: They hit bookstores on Tuesday. Tuesday's just gone. 137 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: Yep, wonderful stuff. For Fiona ro Lachlin. 138 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure talking to you. Thank you so 139 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: much for taking the time to chat with us this morning. 140 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 3: Well, thank you very much. I really appreciate it. See 141 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 3: you darnly and. 142 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: Thank you fion O Lachlan there. 143 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: Well, I think you'd have to say territorian, former territorian, 144 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: but we will can continue to claim Fioda razel Moone