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Speaker 1: Well, last week on the show, we'd heard rumors and

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Speaker 1: the Northern Territory Police Association confirmed that changes are set

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Speaker 1: to be made with the oversight of Strikeforce Trident and

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Speaker 1: where the police unit's going to be stationed, moving away

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Speaker 1: from Casarina to Bermer or the Peter McAuley Center. Now,

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Speaker 1: we spoke about this as well with the Northern Territory

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Speaker 1: Police Acting Assistant Commissioner, and it's prompted speculation and some

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Speaker 1: concerned whether that's going to impact the effectiveness of the

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Speaker 1: elite policing unit and the crime levels in the surrounding

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Speaker 1: areas of Casarina and stakeholders that are well grateful for

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Speaker 1: the work that tried and do. Now, Alicia Billingham is

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Speaker 1: the center manager of the shopping center of Casarina there

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Speaker 1: and she joins us on the line. Good morning to.

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Speaker 2: You, Good morning Katie. How are you yeah?

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Speaker 1: Really well? Thank you so much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 1: Now tell me did this news take you by surprise?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, we weren't aware that this was under consideration, and

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Speaker 2: for us, we recently strongly opposed to the relocation.

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Speaker 1: So are you concerned that Trident would no longer sort

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Speaker 1: of be based across the road from the center, and

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Speaker 1: what do you think it would mean for.

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Speaker 2: You guys, Katie, It's not so I guess, being about

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Speaker 2: the location across the road from the center. It's about

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Speaker 2: achieving the resources where they're going to make that biggest difference,

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Speaker 2: and from our when we've spent the last two years

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Speaker 2: really working very closely between State Management and security with

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Speaker 2: building a real time partnership with the detectives. So what

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Speaker 2: that means is that we've got a relationship that's reactive, operational,

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Speaker 2: and it's really highly effective. So we communicate with the

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Speaker 2: detectives on a near daily basis. We also alert them

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Speaker 2: to organize criminal behavior, non persons of interests, emerging threats,

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Speaker 2: and likewise it's reciprocal. They come back to us, they

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Speaker 2: reach out for assistance with identifying persons of interest, and

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Speaker 2: when those individuals are cited around Tasarina Square, where we've

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Speaker 2: got visibility to, we notify them and they're able to

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Speaker 2: intervene straight away. So it's really it's really I guess

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Speaker 2: when you look at the location of Casarina Square, you

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Speaker 2: know we have more than twenty thousand customers through our

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Speaker 2: doors every single day, so it's not just about I guess,

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Speaker 2: protecting the shopping center. It's about looking at that surrounding

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Speaker 2: community because what happens in our center really does affect

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Speaker 2: that broader community. So fundamentally, our concern is about public safety.

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Speaker 1: How often would you say the team at Casarina have

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Speaker 1: contact with tridents.

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Speaker 2: We work with them pretty much on a daily basis,

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Speaker 2: so they work very collaboratively, particularly with our security team,

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Speaker 2: and they have near daily real time communication as well,

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Speaker 2: which then enables our guards to them to organize crime, etc.

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Speaker 2: And vice versa. And because of that, that then gives

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Speaker 2: their detectives the ability to respond within minutes, and as

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Speaker 2: we all know, minutes matter. They're absolutely in the event

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Speaker 2: of an emergency, they're absolutely critical, and by having that

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Speaker 2: response time, they're able to prevent escalation and they're able

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Speaker 2: to keep people safe.

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Speaker 1: We've had discussions with the police about this and what

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Speaker 1: these possible changes might mean.

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Speaker 2: We certainly have, and we've been reaching out both the

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Speaker 2: government and to the Police Association as well to understand

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Speaker 2: the decision making behind this and being able to bring

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Speaker 2: them I guess an understanding of how this is going

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Speaker 2: to impact the northern suburbs. So right now I guess

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Speaker 2: we've got a team that are right there on the ground.

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Speaker 2: They're looking to relocate to a low density, low crime area,

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Speaker 2: whereas currently they're in a situation where they can respond

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Speaker 2: immediately to an area that is surrounded by areas known

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Speaker 2: for the high crime rates. So it's absolutely illogical.

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Speaker 1: So from your perspective, really, you guys don't want this

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Speaker 2: Not at all, No, and it would be a huge

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Speaker 2: loss to be I guess you're going to see that

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Speaker 2: restriction in terms of intelligence sharing, a huge loss from

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Speaker 2: a response time, and particularly when you have high risk incidents,

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Speaker 2: ones that may involve weapons. Here is threats, it's really

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Speaker 2: critical that they're able to respond rather than having a

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Speaker 2: drive fifteen minutes down the road. So for us, the

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Speaker 2: big changes that we've seen over this last couple of

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Speaker 2: we do often contact them directly, has really helped lead

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Speaker 2: to the downtown that we've seen in crime rates across Caserina.

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Speaker 1: Alicia, how have things been going at Casharina? Are you

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Speaker 1: seeing an improvement? I mean, not only working with Trident,

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Speaker 1: but I know you guys have got a fairly you

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Speaker 1: know fairly extensive security there as well.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, so we've got the Neptune security that provide our

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Speaker 2: security services, but then they've also got the extended services

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Speaker 2: with the poor routine. So certainly with the change since

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Speaker 2: c ELP have come in, there's been a really dramatic

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Speaker 2: shift with the focus around preventing crime and reducing crime.

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Speaker 2: So we've seen some amazing statistics across the center, and

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Speaker 2: we're talking Katie statistics such as eighty percent reduction across

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Speaker 2: the past couple of years in terms of incident numbers.

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Speaker 2: So it really is incredibly positive to see and right

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Speaker 2: now we can't risk that reversing.

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Speaker 1: Alicia. We did have a message last week just on

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Speaker 1: another topic. Somebody got in contact with us saying that

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Speaker 1: they'd heard that paid parking was going to be brought

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Speaker 1: in at Casarina. Is that happening.

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Speaker 2: That's news to me, So at this point in timeline,

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Speaker 2: it's not on the radar.

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Speaker 1: I know, well, that is good to hear, because I

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Speaker 1: think if you're Atina often, like my daughter wants to be,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to go home parking.

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Speaker 2: No, not at all, not at all.

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Speaker 1: Hey, what about the I was out there a couple

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Speaker 1: of weekends ago and the redevelopment. How are things going

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Speaker 1: out there at you know, at the quarter and how

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Speaker 1: soon before that work will be complete.

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Speaker 2: It's coming along really well. Naturally we've had had a

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Speaker 2: few delays with the wet season, but looks things are

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Speaker 2: certainly moving along right now. Looking for about a September

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Speaker 2: opening of the quarter and looking at the Woolworth ends

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Speaker 2: around that July August. So all things going to plan,

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Speaker 2: we should have some great new facilities and options for

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Speaker 2: people to come and enjoy good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Well. Alicia Billingham, Casuarina Shopping Center manager, really appreciate your

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Speaker 1: time this morning. Thanks for having a chat with us,

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Speaker 1: my pleasure. Thanks Katie, thank you,