1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: But as I mentioned, we know that Casarina Square has 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: indeed changed ownership. It has been taken over by a 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Sentinel Property Group. And the last time we spoke to Sentinel, 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: they had some big plans for the shopping center, but 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: we knew that the issue of anti social behavior was 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: also having an impact. 7 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: Now joining me to talk more. 8 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: About this is the CEO of Sentinel Property Group, Warren Ebert. 9 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Warren. 10 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 3: Good morning, Katie. Another beautiful day in Darwin. 11 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: Oh, it's a glorious day today. 12 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: The weather's called down a little bit, which is always nice. 13 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 3: Warren. 14 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 2: I know that you are in town at the moment. 15 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: What's been on the agenda for you when it comes 16 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: to Casarina Katie? 17 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 3: Putting a list of things together that we want to 18 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 3: achieve in the first twelve months that I as you appreciate, 19 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 3: there's a lot of them for a center that's been 20 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 3: around almost fifty years now, yep. So we're starting on 21 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 3: the little things that we can achieve, such as cleaning 22 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 3: up the car park, repainting that improving side. Each and 23 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 3: while the locals don't need any direction on how to 24 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 3: get there, visitors the first thing they see is the 25 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: shell service station, no indication of a shopping center, So 26 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 3: we're just doing some general tidy up to make the 27 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: place a little bit more inviting it as Stage one. 28 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: Well, that is good to hear, and I think that 29 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: you know that any of those improvements can obviously be 30 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: a wonderful thing. 31 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: Wlaarren. 32 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: I know that last time you and I spoke, we 33 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,919 Speaker 1: spoke quite quite a bit about some of the anti 34 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: social issues that have been experienced at Casarina Square. Will 35 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 1: there be discussions over today and over the coming days 36 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: about that anti social behavior and some of the work 37 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: that can be done in this space, Katie. 38 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: There's discussions pretty much daily on any social behavior, and 39 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: we have to remember it's not just Catherina Square. You know, 40 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: there's a lot of it around Darwin, but because of 41 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 3: Catherine Square is such a big place and with a 42 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 3: bus in the change, there is a concentration there. The 43 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: people have to remember we can they do what the 44 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 3: laws allow us to do. You know, we can't, as 45 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 3: I've been told, we can't ban people from the center 46 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 3: that can cause a lot of trouble. We's caught them 47 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: off the premises and they just come in another door. 48 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: So you know, we can only do what the laws 49 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: allow us to do. Now. We are meeting with the 50 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 3: Chief Minister tomorrow and I was certainly glad to read 51 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 3: in one of her major aims is law in order 52 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 3: to get some of the anti social behavior under control. 53 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,839 Speaker 3: Now the antisocial behavior doesn't help anyone the youths who 54 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 3: are doing it, it doesn't help them. So we are 55 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: working with government police and when this has developed over 56 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 3: a long time, it's not something that you that you 57 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 3: change overnight. So we are you know, we have started 58 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: some canine controls of a night and that certainly has helped, 59 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 3: but we know that there's more to be done and 60 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 3: we don't have a solution. If we had the solution, 61 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: we would have implemented it. But we're working with the 62 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 3: government and everyone has the same aim. But we're serious. 63 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 3: We're up here every month. We have seen your people 64 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 3: up here every week to do our best to solve 65 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 3: will certainly reduce the issue. 66 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: Well, were you aware of sort of how prevalent you 67 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: know this issue was before the property had been purchased. 68 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 3: Yes, certainly, Katie, it's something like that. You can't keep 69 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 3: a secret. We were fully aware, but from our point 70 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: of view, if there aren't problems, then you can't fix them. 71 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: And we at the end of the day, we're in 72 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: business to make money because and while people might find 73 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: that repulsive, if you don't make money, you don't pay wages, 74 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: you don't pay outdomes, you don't pay any such important 75 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: that a business makes money and we make our money 76 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: by improving things. So we look for things that do 77 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: our problems and then we work on fixing them. So, 78 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: you know, they said has been a little bit neglected 79 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: over the last the last few years, and certainly the 80 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 3: COVID didn't help. We have seen your management. The previous 81 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: owner couldn't get up there. So we're working on all issues. 82 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 3: You know, there's dozens and dozens of issues. So yes, 83 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 3: we are, we were aware of it, and we're yeah, 84 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 3: we really are generally excited to under center now, I know. 85 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: You know, yesterday we'd received a statement from the Territory 86 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: Police saying that they'd charged two youths in relation to 87 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: an aggravated robbery in Casurina. At the shopping center in 88 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: Casarina yesterday, two fifteen or well a fifteen year old 89 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 1: and a seventeen year old had allegedly gone into the 90 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: shopping center entered a business one of those you'ds allegedly 91 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: assaulted an employee with. 92 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 2: A blunt weapon. 93 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: Warren, What work is being done to make sure that 94 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: the employees at the center, and indeed those that shop there, are. 95 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 2: Safe, O, Katie. 96 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 3: That there's you know, if we want people with one 97 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 3: hundred percent safe, then I suppose they have to stay 98 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 3: at home, which isn't which isn't acceptable. So you know, 99 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 3: we have there's millions of dollars spent every year on security. 100 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, it is a 101 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 3: diffical issue. You know, people don't like having a lot 102 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 3: of these people who cause problems locked up in jail. 103 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 3: So you know, we've just got to work with the 104 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:17,559 Speaker 3: police and the and the government, and certainly on educating youths. 105 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 3: You know, last time I was up here, someone pointed 106 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 3: out something who's throwing rocks at cars at night? And 107 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 3: they said, yeah, they probably don't even realize you're not 108 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 3: supposed to do that. You know, it's just what they've 109 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: seen done. So it is an education thing, and I'm 110 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 3: not trying to sweep it under the carpet and make 111 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: out that it's that it's easy. You can't click the 112 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 3: things that have it go away. You know, if people 113 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: don't understand what they're doing is not acceptable and it's 114 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 3: not helping them or their family, then you know it's 115 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 3: it's a slow, slow change. But I know things well 116 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 3: from what I've been told. You know, the over recent 117 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 3: years things have got worse. So we're talking with the 118 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 3: banks and some of them are on how we can 119 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 3: make things better for them. And it's a you know 120 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 3: where it's all. It's all a work in progress and 121 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to sweep it under the carpet, Katie. 122 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 3: You know, it is a real issue. But when you 123 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 3: speak to the police, and you know the police have 124 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 3: a budget, they have to work with you. You just 125 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 3: can't say, give us more more police and another beat 126 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 3: there because they have a budget. So if they put 127 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 3: more police there, they taken away from somewhere else. So 128 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 3: we don't have the solution. You know, we are always 129 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 3: happy to talk to anyone who has a who has 130 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 3: a suggestion. You know, while it might be ideal, as 131 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 3: I said, if we have started canine patrols a couple 132 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 3: of nights a week, yep, and that has made a 133 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 3: massive difference, a massive difference. 134 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: So well, and so they're obviously they're obviously private patrols. 135 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: Warren and uh and they are, you know, they're they're 136 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: obviously working. 137 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 2: By the sounds of. 138 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 3: Us, they are. Katie. Yes, we found that one of 139 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: the adjoining owners was doing it, so we've tried. We're 140 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 3: happy to try anything that works. You know, you don't 141 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 3: know it doesn't work until you try it. Now, a 142 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 3: lot of people might like it, but you know, I 143 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: see someone getting bashed or bashed or robbed it. I 144 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: don't think they like that either. 145 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 2: No, well, that's exactly right. 146 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: I actually think if you're able to, you know, to 147 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: have those canine patrols at night and it's making a difference, 148 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: particularly then if you're talking about people shopping in the 149 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: center later at night or employees leaving the center later 150 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: at night, and it's keeping everybody safer. You know, it 151 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: has to be a win win for everybody. 152 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 3: It does KD. So we started, well, we did it 153 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 3: for one night a week for a couple of weeks. 154 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 3: Worked very well. So we've started two nights a week now. 155 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 3: You know, there is the dirty, filthy thing of money 156 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 3: always constrained everything. So there's budgets and we are certainly 157 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: working to increase those canine patrols and see if we 158 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 3: can get them every night and work them into the day. 159 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 3: So that's one of the things that we know does work, yep, 160 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: and we will gradually influent more of those. But certainly 161 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 3: we do want to work with the police and the 162 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: government of the day and city council to make sure 163 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 3: all of our efforts are coordinated. There's no sense or all 164 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: of us going spending money in the same areas. So 165 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: we will get their ca and I'm happy to talk 166 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 3: on a regular basis and report progress, and people who 167 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 3: have a genuine complaint we are keen to hear from them. 168 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: Warren, Well, I'm keen to hear as well. 169 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: What else Sentinel is looking at doing with the shopping 170 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: center in terms of, you know, some of the like 171 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: we've obviously spoken about the anti social issues that we've 172 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: you know that you guys are grappling with in some 173 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: ways or you know, trying your best to deal with. 174 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: But what are some of the other things that you've 175 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: got planned for the center. I know that you've had 176 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: some you know, some big stores move in recently or 177 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: not too long ago, the likes of Mecca. You've had Mimco, 178 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: there is no doubt that there's been some real anchors. 179 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: I guess you'd say in terms of getting people into 180 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: the shopping center. 181 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: What is some of that work that's underway. 182 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 3: Well, certainly in the court of the food court, which 183 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: hasn't been as successful as previous owners would have liked 184 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: iven they spent forty five million. We're working with a 185 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 3: couple of different tenants there. We're working on the lighting, 186 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 3: particular lighting that they have. Anyone who goes through, if 187 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: they look up the lights that hang down, there's seven 188 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: hundred dollars each. It's hard to see the value, but 189 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 3: they just don't work because of the humidity up here 190 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 3: in Darwin, they keep blowing. So we've got to change 191 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 3: all of that lighting. We're putting up some railing that 192 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 3: around that the food areas so once again you don't 193 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: get anti social behaviors. People sit down have a meal 194 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 3: that someone just walks in an annoys them. So there's 195 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 3: a lot of those things we're working on non retail 196 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 3: tendencies and buildings. We've spoken to the government about some 197 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 3: possibly some age care on site, because one thing that 198 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 3: as you get older, you can't drive or catching the 199 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 3: bus isn't as convenient. So if you can live near 200 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 3: a center like caserin a square that has the cinemas, 201 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 3: it has all of the shopping everything you need, has 202 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 3: six hectares under six hectares of air conditioned space to 203 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: walk around in health facility. So we're looking at a 204 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: lot of areas that are a non retail. We have 205 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: proc the land there. Yeah, so we're working on a 206 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: number of things, but at the moment, you know around 207 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 3: the country there's a massive shortage of staff and particularly 208 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 3: in the construction area, and building materials are just just 209 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 3: out of control. And you know with the Russian Ukrainian issue, 210 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 3: Russia is one of the largest or maybe the largest 211 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 3: exporter of timber in the world. I heard an interesting 212 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 3: fact a couple of months ago the twenty five percent 213 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: of all trees in the world are in Siberia, so, 214 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 3: which was a bit of a surprise. So that's put 215 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 3: enormous pressure on. So we're working with different types of 216 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 3: construction that we can get things done in a roots 217 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 3: for short space of time and be cost effective. You've 218 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: got to do something different. 219 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: Just doing it the old ways isn't isn't working. Yeah, 220 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: well that's it. 221 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: Everyone's having to think outside the box. Hey Warren, I 222 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: know as well there had been some talk about about 223 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: a youth shack in Casurina. My understanding is that it's 224 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: no longer. There is no longer a youth shack in Casurina. 225 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: I know that the Labor government or the federally Labor 226 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: committed five million dollars for a youth engagement center for 227 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: the northern suburbs. 228 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: Has there been any so. 229 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: It would have been moving it from the old Casuarina 230 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: fire station. Has there been any update from your understanding 231 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: as to whether there is going to be a new 232 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: youth hub or where it's going to be, because I 233 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: guess in some ways that could indeed help as well 234 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: when it comes to the issues that we've seen with 235 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: anti social behavior. 236 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: Thanks Katie. We certainly have discussed this with the territory 237 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 3: government and the Lord Mayor of Darwin. I will send 238 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 3: our bank account details through Prime Minister to Prime Missus 239 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 3: Albanezi today so we can send us that five minion 240 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 3: because we've certainly liked to put that to use. We're 241 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 3: meeting with the Chief Minister tomorrow to discuss some of 242 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 3: those issues. And we have identified an ear where it 243 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 3: could go. But that's got to work for everyone. That's 244 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 3: got to be funded correctly in man and everything else though. 245 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 2: So Warren, you're keen to have that any You've got 246 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: your keen to have it there at the at the 247 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 2: center on that land. 248 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 3: No, not at the center, but near the center. It's 249 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: so good trying to put it somewhere that is isolated, Katie, 250 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 3: You've got to have it where people are, because if 251 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 3: it's just not convenient that people aren't aren't going to 252 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 3: go there. So we have had discussions with the Darwin 253 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 3: City Council and some people at the territory government and 254 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 3: they're certainly very receptive. We're happy to financially participate in 255 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 3: it and and try and get some of our retailers 256 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 3: encourage them to participate in as well. So it's very 257 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 3: easy for people to complain. But when you asked them 258 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 3: to contribute to the solution, not everyone well not everyone 259 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: does have the time and money, but there'd be some 260 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 3: some of the larger companies who who I'm quite sure 261 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 3: when it's put to them, they will contribute. So we're 262 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,479 Speaker 3: working on that. I hadn't heard of that particular announcement 263 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 3: that you mentioned. But that's great to hear. 264 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 2: All right, Well, so there you go. 265 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that you know that it was something 266 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: that you guys are at Centinal Property Group could potentially 267 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: help with that. 268 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: You may actually have that land for the youth hub. 269 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 3: Oh, we're always thinking ahead, Katie. We've mentioned this a 270 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 3: few months ago, so maybe someone have passed it on 271 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: to the Prime Minister. I've got a few more good 272 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 3: ideas we can send through. 273 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: Well, Warren, it sounds like you mean business while you're 274 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: here in the Northern Territory. 275 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: We really appreciate your time. 276 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: I know that you know that there's lots of tough 277 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: questions at the moment when it comes to those anti 278 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: social behavior issues, but it does sound as though you've 279 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: already made some immediate moves to try and sort that out. 280 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: So we appreciate you having a chat with us, and 281 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: no doubt we'll talk again soon. 282 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 3: Thanks for your time, Katie, and look forward to catching 283 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 3: up soon. 284 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: Thank you.