WEBVTT - Sorry, Essendon 😔 Gawn The Bagger😬 Dull Brownlow 😴 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:08.240 Hey, legends, welcome back to the Mason cock Show. A 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:11.760 lot of juice seeks talk today. We got Braiden absolute 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:13.480 tease off with acid in this week. 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:14.760 Oh that is gonna be fun. 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:17.759 We also go Ken Henckley's back port, Adelaide gets the 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:19.919 w over the weekend love Ken Henckley. 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:22.560 And lastly, are we back on flag Battle? Is that 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:22.880 a thing? 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:23.080 Now? 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:25.119 They got the big win over Sydney by a point. 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:27.280 We're gonna break that down much much more on this 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:36.320 episode starting now. All right, legends, let's get straight into it. 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:39.600 Big episode. But to start off as always, welcome Brandon. 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:41.280 What do you think I reckon? We had a pretty 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:44.440 good weekend of footy. I mean pretty disappointed coming in 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:45.600 here post buyers and all that. 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:48.479 Last week you were on fire. You're furious. 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:51.000 I just hate the big blowouts. There was a couple 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:53.440 of you know, big scores this week. A lot of 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:56.000 tight stuff. The rain starts coming down in winter and 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:59.320 teams just tighten up a bit. But there's some pretty 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:02.800 free flowing footy across the weekend, so I'm looking forward 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:04.399 to diving into it. I want to get over to 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:06.320 you for your clanger and I want you to start 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:07.039 us off this way. 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:10.240 Oh, it's a rough week for Melbourne fans, lost up 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:12.400 in Brisbane. We're gonna get into that. But also there 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:15.080 was something else that happened. Max Gone loved the man. 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:18.640 Big fan of Max Gone on the podcast. He loves 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:20.200 a bit of biking, right, loves to get out there, 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:22.520 loves a tour to France, very very out there about 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:25.000 his love for the bicycle. And he had his kid 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:28.319 in this video and the kids safely with the helmet 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:29.800 on in front of him, you know, and he's filming 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:33.319 and unfortunately from Melbourne fans, his kids singing the wrong song, 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:34.720 his kids singing. 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:36.240 The Mighty Blue songs. 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:40.240 I know they're red and Blue as a team Melbourne, 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:43.800 but he was singing Carlton's theme song and it was rough. 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:46.000 I think you look at Max Gone and as we've 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:48.120 mentioned a lot of people, you play a hundred games, like, hey, 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:50.280 your kid's playing for our team, that's for sure, it's 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:53.680 a guarantee. Well maybe not for his kid. He might 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:55.080 be a Carlton Blue supporter. 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:59.760 That's shocking, especially if he learnt that song. Because Carlton 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:02.480 b your team. That's an extra bit of salt in 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:05.040 the wounds. But yeah, i'd be banning Carton games in 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:05.760 the house now. 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:09.639 Patrick Cripps names and dropped anywhere. 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:12.160 I was talking about it. Tom Hawkins, I'm pretty sure, 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:16.080 Tom Hawkins, little girl has a Bonton Pally little soft 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:19.280 style that she loves and carries around everywhere. 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:21.920 And he's got thing weird whenever you see the person 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:24.280 who probably knows that your child's a fan of them 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:27.760 and you're playing against her and being like hates in 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:28.760 your face around my house. 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:31.280 Yeah, well, I don't know. Is it a big ask 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:33.040 to have Dad's number on your back and you got 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:35.440 a little soft toy Dad, I guess you got the 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:38.200 real thing. So I don't know. And who doesn't have 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:41.600 a soft toy of Marcus Bonton Pali laying around the house. 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.720 I know you. 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:45.520 My question is do you. 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:48.880 I'm not one on trial here. Let's get into my 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:51.960 clanger because we talked about this last week and I'm 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.519 bloody that's sick of it. So now I'm naming names. 0:02:55.120 --> 0:03:00.200 We got Matthew Richardson rich Oman, he put an all 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:03.000 time MOZ and he knew that he was doing it. 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:07.040 See that was the biggest problem because Oscar Macinernie we 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.480 love the big O. And he was going back for 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:13.000 his first shot of goal, and Richo says, I'm going 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.639 to do it. I'm going to say he's a reliable 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:19.799 shot of goal. And he goes back and well, he's 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:22.080 not a relarmed shot of goal because he misses his 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.080 first goal for the year. Because Richo puts the MOS 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:28.240 on it, this is we need to stop this. We 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:30.359 need to put it out there, send a memo out 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:33.680 to all the broadcasters, all the radio people out there 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:36.800 watching you, no more Moses. 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:39.000 Do we reverse jinks? Then do we say he's a 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:40.400 terrible search shot of goal. 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.880 I don't mind putting the cheeky multi on it. I can't, Mason. 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.400 So when I sit at home with my house man, 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:49.680 got a cold tin in hand, and I know I've 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:52.760 got someone in my multi, I say, oh, he won't 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.160 kick this. This like sucks. I don't even know why 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:56.720 I put it in there. And then when he slots 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:59.560 it through, say, I knew what I was doing. I 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:01.640 knew what I was doing the whole time. Now that's 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:03.800 we need a bit of that from the You know, 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:05.680 you've got the stat sheet in front of you. It 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.880 says he's a dead eyed dick, do not say that 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:11.960 until he kicks it. And I know it's not as 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.360 cool doing it after the fact, but I don't care 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:17.000 because he won't kick it if you say it before 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:19.320 it happens. So let's just shut up a little bit. 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:23.000 So I'm looking at all the all the special commentary 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:25.120 tarry people out there because they're the idiots that have 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.919 to say all this stuff. Oh, he's looking he's a 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.000 normal And the other thing is, most of the time 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:34.360 they're like, oh, this bloke's a reliable kick a goal mate. 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:35.920 When was the last time you look at the stats? 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:39.000 He's like ten and fifteen this year. He might have 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.880 been reliable six years ago when that bloody thing started 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:45.760 when people started saying that, they say that shit all 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:48.200 the time. They'll be like, oh, Luke Bruce doesn't miss ever, 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:51.200 this bloke, what are you talking about? I see him 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:54.520 miss all the bloody time. Oh, Georgi yardis, Oh he's 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:58.560 a dead eyed dick. All the port Adelaide players, I 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:04.680 swear what's fired Adelaide forward on the list port Adelaide. 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:06.680 If you've seen one of their games this year, you 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:10.080 know they're the least accurate team probably an AFL history. 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:13.440 So let's not call them dead eye dicks because they 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:16.120 can't kick straight. So let's give them a break. Let 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:18.240 them kick straight, and then we'll get back on the 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:20.880 kick straight bandwagon down the track. But I'm sick of 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.160 that and I've got to put some fire behind it 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:25.159 because they won't bloody listen because we talked about it 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:25.720 last week. 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:27.600 We gave love to BT last week, and now you 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:28.479 want everyone to shut up. 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:33.000 I'm putting Richel in the gun watch come ons. The 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.279 problem is they know they're doing it because they say 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:36.960 stuff on the lead up, like oh, I know it 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:38.480 wasn't him, but I'm going to give him the month. 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:40.520 He was like thirty hours. It was a very good goal. 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:42.919 It was just oh man, I saw it and I 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:44.680 was like, I was a big man. You just hate 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:45.680 every people say that. 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:47.240 Yeah you do? 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:47.960 You do? 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:50.240 You look at your film, after you look at the clips, 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:51.240 you go, son of a bitch? 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:52.040 Rich how you bother? 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.360 Big guys just want to hit the boot, So like, don't. 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:56.760 Just want to get close. I just want to get 0:05:56.760 --> 0:06:00.000 somewhere close that you can actually manage anyway. 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.760 Now from now, you just if someone goes for a 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:05.159 set shot, just complete silence for the thirty seconds until 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:05.599 they kick it. 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:08.440 Yeah yeah, okay, yes, unless the blokes kicked six straight 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:10.920 on the night, then he's filled his boots and then 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:13.320 you let him have a miss. Let's jump through the 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:16.560 results because we've got a fair few. Brisbane just scraped 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.560 over the line against Melbourne, so that was my lock. 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:22.360 So I was pretty happy when that got over the line. 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.320 We talk about North Melbourne. They're back. They were down 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:27.320 a bit early and they clawed their way back. So 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:29.719 the best part about that is they're not out of games. 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.600 And boy does the North Melbourne crowd show up. They 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:36.120 got some little glimmer of hope to cheer too, and 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:40.560 they're back. So that's awesome to see. Sydney lost second 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:44.119 one for the year against Freo Flagman. We'll talk about 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:45.920 them a bit later, but they got the job done 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:47.560 and they just kept answering. But it was a very 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:50.359 close one right down to the sign your boys the 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:52.320 Gold Coast Son's got it done over your boys the 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:55.320 Collingwood magwise in the Mason Cox Cup. So that was 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:58.719 a very interesting one. We'll talk about that. Adelaide GWS. 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:02.280 I don't know where g W at the moment, I'm 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:04.200 putting a bit of distance between me and my boys. 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:08.480 We go to Geelong, Essendon, go see this is what 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:09.200 you have. 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:12.280 Fire off a little bit of beef today. 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:15.880 That was five percent of my fire because I'm standing 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:18.320 up for the Essendon Football Club later on in the show, 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:20.560 and I had to slide it back to later in 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:22.760 the show because we don't want to be demonetized and 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:24.880 you can't say the F word in the first seven minutes, 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.440 so I've slid that back later in the show because 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:30.360 the effort to make sure there's no kids in the car. 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:33.840 If you're listening to this one, Saint Kilda, Port Adelaide, 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:37.240 it was good to see Kenny Hinckley boys get up. Richmond, 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:40.600 Carlton rich my god, you feel for Richmond, but Carlton 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:44.240 on and they're looking dangerous. Is it a bit too 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:46.400 early for their run for finals? Don't spend all your 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:49.360 field tickets now, Carlton and West Coast back to West 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:54.040 Coast Ways and Hawthorne just keep hawking. So let's jump 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:56.480 into the big talking points because I want to ask you. 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:59.240 We talked about it a little bit last week. We 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:02.280 said the Brisbane we're back. Have you changed your mind? 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:04.920 Over that close game or are they they kicking go. 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:08.760 I Brisbane's back. Brisbane's back. We can officially say it. 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.880 I even might even call their home ground the Fortress. Again, 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:12.600 We're back. 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:13.160 I don't know. 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:15.120 I feel like they've they've got a bit of that 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:17.120 energy back at home. You know, they were down at 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:20.200 halftime by like twenty something points like that, a little 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.160 bit claw back, and they did. And don't get me wrong, 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.600 there was some help you could say from the umpiring 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:26.800 Yes that got him the last gold and maybe get 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:29.240 them over the line. But it is something. We're looking 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.280 at Brisbane as a thread in the top eight, and 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:33.280 I think they you know they actually I think they're 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:35.480 eighth on the ladder right now. They got four wins 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.240 in a row. They're on a bit of a hot streak. 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:39.800 So and good since a bye, Yes they have been. 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:44.120 Maybe they sat down a few beers in a circle, 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:46.800 really hashed out all their differences and now we're figuring 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:47.079 it out. 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:50.080 I think Fagan was like, mate, come on, they got 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.760 the blow torch on me one hundred years old. Give 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:55.360 me a break. But it was good to see. I 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:57.840 will stop you. You keep saying the Fortress, which isn't 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:01.720 the is the Gabatur has portress, so they go up 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:04.200 to the Gabatur and it's definitely back to the Gabata 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:06.199 because it was a bit shaky there early days. People 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:08.559 were you know, breaking in there and doing whatever they 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:11.400 wanted to do. We will talk about the Alex Neil 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:15.600 Bullen try that he scored on the wall because origin 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:19.720 is on. He scored an absolute ripper, but unfortunately it 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:21.920 was called deliberate out of bounds that led to the 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:24.839 last goal of the game that you know, may or 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:27.880 may not have been costly. That might that's probably fair 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:31.920 to say, I would suggest looking at it, Neil Bullen, 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:35.120 if he had done six or seven different things, it 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:37.800 probably would have just been a ball in. But the 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.320 way that he, you know, got around a couple of 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:44.760 defenders and dive over the line and touched the ball 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:48.520 down probably hurt him in the end. It was more 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:50.920 just a look. It was a bad look, and then 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:55.120 he got stung with a deliberate deliberate, deliberate it's not 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:58.400 deliberate because I get annoyed with the commentators saying deliberate 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:04.480 it's insufficient intent. What do you think it was there? 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:07.520 I would say yes, I mean if I am him, like, 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:09.480 if that situation right, you have to kind of like 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:12.000 run into contact to get out of bounds. You can't 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.200 just like jump over the line. I think that was 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.760 kind of the way it looked. I mean like whenever 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:19.160 you put it on the ground like a try, right, 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:21.480 that's pretty obvious that you have the ability to handle 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:23.400 the ball out. Yes, So I think that was the 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:26.720 reasoning behind it. So I do agree with the umpiring. 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:29.719 Usually in those kind of dire moments of the game, 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:32.439 they don't get cold, right, But on this occasion they 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:36.600 did and allowed for your man McCluggage. The big seven 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:39.599 year deal fell out to seal the win for the 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:41.319 Brisbane lines up there at the Gabatoire. 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:43.520 How do you feel about seven year deals? There's been 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:47.640 a lot made about long ass player deals. Do they 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:50.240 I want to how do you feel about them? But 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:55.880 who do you think they serve? Because it always feels 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:57.320 like if a player wants to get out of it, 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:00.160 they can if a club wants to, who gives who? 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:01.680 Does it give the power to the player of the 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:06.400 club or are they worth it and contracts valuable? Or 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:07.880 can anyone just do whatever they want? 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:10.640 The power is always with the AFL. That's we're very 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:13.520 well aware of that. They're monopoly. That power has power 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:16.559 over everything in everyone that is in the AFL. Now, 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.640 seven year deals, like as a player, I think it 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:22.240 benefits play because it's guaranteed, right, You're guaranteed to them 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:24.960 out on my money for seven years, and that's like 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:27.680 one of the biggest things I think with the contracts 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:29.520 here in Australia compared to like the US and stuff like, 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.199 you don't always guaranteed all that money. So with contracts here, 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:34.600 since you're guaranteed, I'm always going to take the side 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.120 of the player and if you get a seven year deal, 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:39.320 I'm like, hell yeah, I'm all for that because I 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:41.640 know you can financially set up your life for whatever 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:44.000 it is to come in the future. It's consistent, yes, 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:46.000 But whenever it comes to the power of staying at 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:49.679 a place, I think that comes down to the actual clubs. 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:50.800 They have the power to. 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:53.440 Say essentially, you know, I don't really see you in 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:54.839 our future, or we're going to move you on to 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:57.800 whatever club. So it's kind of like a benefit for 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:00.599 the player financially, but not for he still doesn't have 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:02.960 the power to really stay there if he wants, Like, yes, 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.800 technically you do with the contract, but I mean, I 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:07.600 don't think there's many players that sign a seven year 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:08.800 deal and go, Okay, I'm going to play in the 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:10.480 VFL for the rest of my career. Like that's just 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:12.480 not like for someone who's signing a seven year deal, 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:14.559 you're obviously a good player. Therefore you probably have high 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:16.080 standards and you're not gonna want to play in the 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:17.360 Like the twos, it can. 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.680 Get pretty toxic there because you're right, it kind of 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:22.240 can turn into that. It's like, oh, yeah, you can 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:24.280 diggy heels in and choose to stay if you are 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:27.640 the player, but you know, clubs can make life pretty 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:29.559 miserable for you if you want to stick around for 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:32.880 another six five years waiting out your contract length. 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:34.880 We all know who we're thinking of whenever we think 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:36.800 of the seven year deal. I mean, I don't know, 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.360 and I love the man who's all off evorit people 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.480 in the world, Brody Grundy. But you can see kind 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:43.000 of how that kind of panned out over the three 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:44.439 clubs that he's played out in the last three or 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:44.880 four years. 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:47.640 Hey Melbourne and Clayton Oliver had a pretty rocky relationship 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:50.120 over the off season, and that he just was fresh 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.160 off signing a massive deal. So I think that's where 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:55.120 the AFL is looking at it, like maybe we need 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:57.040 to do something to rain in some of these like 0:12:57.240 --> 0:13:00.959 massive contract deals. They're already looking at Harley Reid that 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:04.280 was ten years for one point eight million a year 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:06.679 for ten years. What Yeah, so like. 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.439 One point eight who who else is playing? 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:12.760 But like, if you look at that and the direction 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:15.160 of contracts, it's probably going to be a steal in 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:17.840 ten years time. They looked at Buddy's contract. 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:20.840 That makes sense inflation nowadays. 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:25.480 Buddy's signed a ten million, nine year contract or whatever, 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:29.199 and then by the end of that it was like, yeah, 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:30.280 it'd easily earn it back. 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:33.040 So, I mean, I don't know how much is going 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:34.200 to be left in the rest of the CAFF. 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:35.959 You take one point out of it, I can guarantee 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:37.800 you probably not making finals. If you're going to take 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:39.520 that much money, you're gonna need some people around you. 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:40.079 True. 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:43.120 Yeah, just backing it's it's the gamble of clubs that 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:47.679 hope that the cap increases year on year, and we've 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:50.920 seen it backfight on a number of clubs. Let's keep 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:54.920 moving along because I want to say another big talking 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:57.920 point out of this weekend was Port Adelaide's big win 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:02.319 after a year out power, after a week of just 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:05.440 being dragged through the mud the Port Adelaide football club 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:07.800 when they at the time still sat in the eighth position, 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:11.360 which is wild. We did throw out some question marks 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:14.080 after last week's loss at home to Brisbane, but we 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:19.200 just said Brisbane's back. So what did you feel coming 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:22.160 out of that Port Adelaide team, because imagine being inside 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:25.440 the four walls, because externally I felt relief for Kenny 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:27.240 and I'm not even in the joint. 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:29.320 I think we all we. 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.600 All know the pressure was on kN and the team 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:32.840 and all had to try to get a win over 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:35.560 this next period and try to make finals. And I 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:37.080 don't know, we talked about all the times, like I 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.480 feel like it's just a it's a cyclical thing. Like 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:41.560 around this time of year, Port Adelaid maybe is like 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:43.720 either their top four or like if they're around the eight, 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.920 like people just pounce on them for some reason. I'm 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:50.640 looking at like Adelaide not the same situation. Yeah, Adelaide's 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:52.840 further down the ladder and for some reason, like it's 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:54.760 just because it's Kin Hinkley. I feel like it's like 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:57.040 a you know, a story that's been told, they're telling 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:00.960 it again every single year. It's frustrating Kin's been successful 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:02.880 in getting into finals. Like do you take a team 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:04.880 where the coach that's been successful and so, look, we're 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:06.680 gonna keep trying with that knowing that we're probably gonna 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:08.720 make finals every year, or do you try to essentially 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:10.960 start afresh and then take the punt on whether or 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:12.080 not even going to make finals. 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:13.680 So I don't know. 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.440 I'm always probably of the side of Ken Hinkley of 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:17.800 like he's going to be able to get them to 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:20.440 the top eight at the end of the year, and 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:22.360 then from there it's, you know, it's a crapshoot. Really 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.200 who can kind of be in form at that time. 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:26.400 So it was good for them to be able to 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:28.400 get to win there at home. 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:29.520 Ken. 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:33.400 Obviously Adelaide Port Adelaide fans are pretty ruthless, Yeah, And 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:35.640 I think that's part of this whole storyline is like 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.480 they are they have a very high standard as to 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:40.200 wanting to win every week, and that's fine, Like I 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:44.040 think Ken would understand that and everyone else, but I 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:47.920 feel like they very much can turn very quickly. Yeah, 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.240 and it's like who's the first person that hits in 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.360 the crosshairs. It's like usually the head coach or like 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:54.360 the CEO or something like that, Right, they need someone 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.280 to blame if they haven't won the game, and that's 0:15:57.440 --> 0:15:59.680 I think port Adelaid fans can be pretty ruthless in that. 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:02.360 And it's credit to Kanks. He's been able to handle 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:04.920 it for a long time and he's been in their 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:06.760 sights a few times and being able to get through it. 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.080 So you can see in his interview after you know 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:12.200 how much that went meant to him and kind of 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:13.960 you know, it's like mental health with the whole thing. 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:15.800 I think like it'd be quite frustrating to see all 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:17.920 the criticism coming at him and to be able at 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:19.960 that win at home in front of the crowd, you know, 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:21.520 brings a bit of positivity to the group. 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:23.840 It's very interesting one as well, because you look at 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:26.360 someone like Chris Fagan, who only you know a month 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:29.840 ago was in the gun and how quick it can 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:33.920 turn around. And yeah, I look back at some of 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:37.680 Ken Hinckley's coaching stats. He's one of the got one 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:40.920 of the best coaching percentages, it's around sixty odd percent. 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:44.360 He's lost in a couple of prelims, but if you 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:46.320 look at the teams that he's lost to, they've been 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:50.680 some of the best teams we've ever seen have a 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:54.560 run at it. They lost the final when Luke Shuey 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:58.880 took a dive got the free kick after the siren kick. 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:04.000 So they've had a couple of heartbreakers in finals. And yeah, 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:06.879 he's coached a long time without a flag, which is 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:08.600 I guess what a lot of people look at. But 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:10.840 at the same time, over the course, I don't like 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.280 that they've boot him, And it was something I heard 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:15.399 on ADS and Dunk's podcast, But I don't like that 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:19.359 they've boot him because even if you did think that 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:23.800 it was time for change, the amount that he's done 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:27.560 for that football cold over his like ten plus year journey. 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:32.240 I'm thinking back to when I first started in the AFL, 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:35.760 like they were the tops on the seats, no one 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:39.440 was going to their games, Like it was a terrible, 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:40.600