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Speaker 1: A few messages coming through this morning about the payoffer

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Speaker 1: put to our Northern Territory Police. So I've got one

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Speaker 1: here that says, Hi Katie, another kick in the guards

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Speaker 1: for our hard working, loyal Northern Territory police. No pay

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Speaker 1: increase or bonus for over two years. The Northern Territory

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Speaker 1: Government recently approved a three percent pay increase to be

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Speaker 1: back paid to the first of July twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: This won't be paid until late July early August twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three. This text message says, our loyal police are

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Speaker 1: severely undervalued, under resourced and underpaid. Northern Territory Government, pull

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Speaker 1: your finger out and process the back pay now now. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: we've got probably six of those messages that have come

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Speaker 1: through this morning alone from different people pretty concerned about

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Speaker 1: this situation, joining me on the line to shed some

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Speaker 1: light on exactly what is going on. From the Northern

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Speaker 1: Territory Police Association, the acting president is Byleis. Good morning

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Speaker 1: to you.

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Speaker 2: Lisa O, Yes, good one and Katie.

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Speaker 1: Now Lisa tell us what is happening at this point

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Speaker 1: in time with this payoffer.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, it's unfortunate the timing of everything, how it

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Speaker 2: occurred in relation to the certification of the agreement. Our

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Speaker 2: nominee that sits on the Police Arbitration Tribunal was previously

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Speaker 2: Ray Murphy, and unfortunately, I mean good for him, he

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Speaker 2: took up a position as an acting judge, but the

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Speaker 2: timing of that unfortunately fell just the wrong time. We

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Speaker 2: advised the OTP that we needed to get the once

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Speaker 2: ever been agreed upon everything sign as quickly as possible

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Speaker 2: so that we could progress it because otherwise we then

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Speaker 2: have to have another nominee that signed the document and

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Speaker 2: we get the new nominee approved by cabinet. Is a

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Speaker 2: bit of a process. But look, besides, apart from all that,

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Speaker 2: you've got to remember when we entered negotiations, it was

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Speaker 2: in February last year, So February twenty twenty two is

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Speaker 2: when we commenced negotiations with the government, and it's now

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Speaker 2: June twenty twenty three and we're members. They're still waiting

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Speaker 2: for their back pay and changes to their conditions. It

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Speaker 2: is it's like in terms of dragging their feet, that's

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Speaker 2: what the government has done, and it's really disappointing. We're

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Speaker 2: now at this point and.

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Speaker 1: So like from the delay right now it seems like

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Speaker 1: it is an administrative thing in terms of not having

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Speaker 1: that nominee in place to be able to sign off

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Speaker 1: on it. Have I understood that correctly?

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Speaker 2: Yep, that's that's correct. When when the document is signed,

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Speaker 2: it signed by the Minister, signed by the President, and

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Speaker 2: we've also signed by the nominee on the PAP which

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Speaker 2: the Police Arbitration Tribunal and includes the Vice President. Ashbury

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Speaker 2: normally signs that as well. But we can't complete that

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Speaker 2: until we have a nominee. And as I said before,

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Speaker 2: unfortunate the timing was mister Ray Murphy. He took up

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Speaker 2: a position as an acting judge. You can no longer

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Speaker 2: act as as a lawyer in that capacity. So now

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Speaker 2: we're just waiting for we've got a new nominee that's

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Speaker 2: before cabinet, we're waiting for to progress. We haven't heard

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Speaker 2: any further on that at this stage. Contacted the Minister's

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Speaker 2: office earlier this week to find out where that's that,

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Speaker 2: and I have not actually had a response at this stage.

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Speaker 1: And so any possibility here, Lisa, that this could happen sooner,

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Speaker 1: that it could get signed off sooner, and that pay

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Speaker 1: increase may happen sooner than what our police officers are

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Speaker 1: thinking it will.

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Speaker 2: Well, the unfortunate thing is it is an administrative process,

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Speaker 2: so even if this is progressed as quickly as possible,

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Speaker 2: it then has to go through to payroll. Payroll needs

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Speaker 2: to progress process everyone's pay and to be done as

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Speaker 2: quickly as possible. The information I've got from them is

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Speaker 2: that it will still would not happen until probably the

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Speaker 2: second potentially then the third pay in the new financial years.

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Speaker 2: It is. It is incredibly disappointing. This effects, you know,

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Speaker 2: all of our members who've been waiting for almost two

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Speaker 2: years now for pay rise. Totally unacceptable and I think again,

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Speaker 2: I take it back to the original negotiations. We were

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Speaker 2: ready to go in February last year and the government

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Speaker 2: has dragged it till we was a very disappointing, very difficult,

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Speaker 2: drawn out negotiation process and effectively we started with a

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Speaker 2: zero percent and the government dragged the heels all the

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Speaker 2: way through it. And this is where we're at to

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Speaker 2: now in during twenty twenty three, still waiting for a

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Speaker 2: pay roll.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, So at this point in time for those

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Speaker 1: officers that are listening this morning, and I know that

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Speaker 1: obviously that mail out went yesterday, but it's looking as

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Speaker 1: though EI either the second or third pay in the

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Speaker 1: next financial year, so it will sort of be towards

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Speaker 1: the end of August or late July.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I don't have confirmation on the date. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: all I know is that the information I've got, if

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Speaker 2: it was processed. Even with processed, you know by next week.

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Speaker 2: This is the soonest they could get it done. But

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Speaker 2: again the ball is in the government's court. They need

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Speaker 2: to progress this the nominee confirmation that's done, then we

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Speaker 2: can progress the content agreements being certified.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's hope that it happens sooner rather than later

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Speaker 1: and get the ball moving. As you said, you know,

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Speaker 1: our hard working police officers have been waiting quite some

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Speaker 1: time for this to happen and finally reach that agreement.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I'm sure that they are waiting. It

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Speaker 1: will be back paid, thy wonnte here.

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Speaker 2: Look, every member will get back paid their actual pay

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Speaker 2: and any overtime that they've done. That has been confirmed

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Speaker 2: and promised by the government from the very beginning of negotiation.

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Speaker 2: So that's some good news for everyone. However, those people

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Speaker 2: that have resigned or retired, perhaps they're the ones that

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Speaker 2: they will miss out. They they're no longer part of

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Speaker 2: employees under the Act, and they were actually not being

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Speaker 2: back paid at all. So I think that's going to

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Speaker 2: affect quite a number of people, and that's the problem.

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Speaker 2: The longer this drags on, the more people that are capturing,

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Speaker 2: and it's really it's unfair. But that's unfortunately where we

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Speaker 2: found out.

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Speaker 1: Well, Lisa Bayless, please do keep us up to date

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Speaker 1: if there is any progression. As I say, we've got

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Speaker 1: a lot of messages about that, or a few messages

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Speaker 1: about that this morning, so thought we're going to need

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Speaker 1: to find out exactly what the goal is here. So

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you joining us at very short notice

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Speaker 1: to have a chat about that today.

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Speaker 2: No, thank you very much, Katie.

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Speaker 1: Thank you