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Speaker 1: I am going to head across right now, and we

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Speaker 1: of our cruise ship passengers were being told that it's

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Speaker 1: not safe to venture out into the city. Now joining

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Speaker 1: Infidelity Clothing, Kerry Collins.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Kerrie.

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Speaker 3: Hi Katie, how are you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Really good?

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Speaker 1: Lovely to have you on the show, Kerrie, tell me

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Speaker 1: what you know about this situation with those cruise ship passengers.

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Speaker 3: Well, on Sunday I witnessed it several times. We had

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Speaker 3: seven hundred people passengers on a cruise ship and I

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Speaker 3: sort of filtered up really really slowly, and the first

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Speaker 3: comment I got was, oh, you're open. And the people

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Speaker 3: had said that they had been told while the ship's

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Speaker 3: open and it's not safe anyway. But that's not the

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Speaker 3: first time I've heard those comments from cruise sheep people.

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Speaker 3: And I did hear your interview with you know, Mista Balden.

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Speaker 3: He didn't come across very convincing to me. I don't

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Speaker 3: know when he's when he wandered around the mall or

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Speaker 3: saw the last large cruise ships when the passengers were here.

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Speaker 3: I don't really know what colored rose colored glasses he

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Speaker 3: was wearing. Because there was drunks everywhere in the all

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Speaker 3: by ambulance. You know, this is just not a good look.

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Speaker 2: It's not a good look. It's our CBD.

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Speaker 1: You know, we've got people getting off cruise ships where

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Speaker 1: they've spent their savings to be able to get on

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Speaker 2: They want to come to town.

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Speaker 1: They want to be able to hit the shops and

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Speaker 3: No, it's rather embarrassing. And not only that, you know

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Speaker 3: what council are doing nothing, You know, like we should

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Speaker 3: be welcoming these people have been We should be grateful.

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Speaker 3: The council should also stop blaming the government. The governments

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Speaker 3: sit down and get their act together. Do something for

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Speaker 3: the CVD. Yes, go on, it's just you know, but

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Speaker 3: they do they constantly. I hate Colt banging on about

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Speaker 3: but it's it's they're both at fault Yep, they're not

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Speaker 3: working together.

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Speaker 1: Kerry, what do you reckon they need to do when

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Speaker 1: you know, when we have got the cruise ships in town,

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Speaker 1: because I know in years gone by, like quite a

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Speaker 1: I reckon, there was two cruise ships that have maybe

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Speaker 2: They had market stalls.

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Speaker 1: And I know you can't do that every single time

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Speaker 3: Well exactly, you know, like my current go and city

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Speaker 3: council throw some of the car parking, you know, money

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Speaker 3: They're not doing a thing, you know. And if we

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Speaker 2: But it's not for everybody else. You know.

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Speaker 1: They get off a cruise ship and go, oh goodness me,

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Speaker 2: What's going on here?

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Speaker 3: Well they're horrified. I mean, we know, we know that

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Speaker 3: what we're allowed to happen in Alice and now we're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Carrie, what did you make of you know, when

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Speaker 3: He did. He he sort of dodged around it because

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Speaker 3: and I keep talking about it. They're going to start

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Speaker 3: Why cawn't they get something done? You know what, why

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Speaker 3: Make these people, you know, we don't have like three

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of welcoming to me.

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Speaker 1: Do something carry when you talk about your business, like

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Speaker 3: Well, the cruiseian people they help us survive through you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's another thing that we very often hear

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Speaker 1: We have got a lot of bad antisocial behavior and

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Speaker 2: They're tinkering around the.

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Speaker 1: Edges with some of the the changes to alcohol and

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Speaker 1: It's having an impact, whether the government wants to believe

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Speaker 1: It's having an impact on tourism, and it has to

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Speaker 1: change definitely.

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Speaker 3: And I'm pick of them just you know, talking about things,

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Speaker 3: but nothing is actually getting done. Sit down around the table,

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Speaker 3: make some decent decisions that are going to help everybody out.

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Speaker 3: Make darn And look like the vibrant city that it.

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Speaker 2: Used to be.

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Speaker 3: I agree, Yeah, I've been really proud of Dard and

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Speaker 3: have great conversation. I was born here, you know, and

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Speaker 3: you know I can talk about Starclone Traphy I was here, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I do quite often have those conversations with people.

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Speaker 3: But now people are asking me, oh, do you feel safe?

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Speaker 3: And what can I say to them? Sometimes I don't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And this is the thing.

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Speaker 1: It's we all live here because we love the place,

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Speaker 1: but we need to get back to our former glory,

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Speaker 1: you know. We need to get back to those days

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Speaker 1: where we all feel safe, where you're able to run

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Speaker 1: a business without the fear of some of the issues

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Speaker 1: that we're saying.

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Speaker 2: It's got to change.

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Speaker 1: And I just think, you know, I'm like, I've been

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Speaker 1: banging on about it. We've all been banging on about

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Speaker 1: it for so long, but the time is now, Kerry.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I agree. I agree. I've had enough of it. Yeah, embarrassing,

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Speaker 3: and you know, I feel for anybody who works in CBD,

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Speaker 3: just went like numb to it all. Really, that's it.

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Speaker 2: Kerrie.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time this morning, because

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Speaker 1: I know you're busy and and you had to wait

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Speaker 2: Hopefully you've been able to juggle it all. I really

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Speaker 2: appreciate your time. Thank you, Thanks so much. Thank you,