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Speaker 1: Well it happens to the best of us. Cold Chisel

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Speaker 1: is turning the Big five. Oh and the tour is

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Speaker 1: coming to Sandalford Wines because we'll all need a wine

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Speaker 1: for this one. October nineteen is part of the Red

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Speaker 1: Hot Summer Tour. Tickets go on pre sale this Friday

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Speaker 1: through Cold Chisel dot com. And we have got an

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Speaker 1: extra special treat because we've got Jimmy Barnes and Ian

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Speaker 1: Moss that morning, Double Trouble, Double Trouble.

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Speaker 2: Who thought fifty years old? God? Wow, where did they go?

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Speaker 2: Did you tell me?

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Speaker 3: Did you really think we'll still be doing this.

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Speaker 2: In fifty years?

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Speaker 4: There's not a chance. I didn't think we I didn't

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Speaker 4: that So it's good, you know, because you know, I

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Speaker 4: mean all the bands that we love, you know, like

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Speaker 2: So you know, play with the people you love, making

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Speaker 1: But you did drop a few times, and I don't

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Speaker 2: Every night sometimes I've dropped during the song exactly, I might.

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Speaker 2: Was no dropping. There was lucky, lucky you get me

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Speaker 3: I used to be terrified, but that's what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I mean, but the shows evolve and change, you know,

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Speaker 4: from from what we when we started as a young band,

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Speaker 4: We were ferocious because we played eight shows a week

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Speaker 2: We hadn't thought about it. I thought it was all

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Speaker 3: You can't get away that easy, so glad and you

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Speaker 4: Well, I think that was a real blessing, you know,

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Speaker 1: Now, this is just a giant party. There's no album

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what we're doing. It was a really good but

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Speaker 3: As a as a diehard Chisel fan, I always thought

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Speaker 2: You all brought something to the party.

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Speaker 1: All Right, here's a reason to go and see Coach

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Speaker 2: It was fair. It was you know it was. It

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Speaker 4: Gravity is one of my favorite sort of rock tracks.

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Speaker 3: So Sarah McLoud two years ago, Friends Restaurant, do us

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Speaker 2: Enthusiasm talking to you right now has answered my question.

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Speaker 1: Well. The Big five Oh Tour It's happening this October

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Speaker 1: is part of the Red Hot Summer Tour at Sanderford Wides.

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Speaker 1: We can't wait for Jimmy and I and so lovely

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