1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Three sixty with Katie wolf On mixed one oh four 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: point nine thanks to Joyce Main Darwin. Now you may 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: have heard me mention this morning in our opener that 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: we're all been sort of waiting to hear exactly what 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: the next steps are for the Territory Economic Reconstruction Commission. 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: Now we know the Turk Report was handed down at 7 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: the end of last year and is now in the 8 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: hands of the government. We're waiting for those departments to 9 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: come forward with that implementation plan. We have previously asked 10 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: the Chief Minister about this and he has said that 11 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: you know that those departments and that those. 12 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: Ces are working on this. 13 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: We had asked to have Sean Drabs on the show 14 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: for the last few weeks to try and get a 15 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: bit further detail about this rollout, but to no avail 16 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: at this stage. Now I know that industry is certainly well. 17 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: They've been incredibly supportive of the work that's been undertaken 18 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: by the Turk the Territory Economic Reconstruction Commission for those 19 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: wondering what that means, but they're also now starting to 20 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: ask some questions about when we're going to see some movement. 21 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: Joining me in the studio not from the ARII and 22 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: t AS I accidentally just said before the break, but 23 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: from the Property Council's Northern Territory Division. 24 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 2: Ruth Palmer, Good morning to you, Ruth. 25 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 3: Good morning Katie. 26 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: Now, Ruth, I know that you guys, along with well, 27 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: the Chamber of Commerce, everybody really the Master Builders, everybody's 28 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: been incredibly supportive of the Territory Economic Reconstruction Commission and 29 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: really hoping to sort of see things start moving forwards. 30 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: But we're all kind of wondering where things are at 31 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: right now, aren't we. 32 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, Katie, and we supported absolutely the Commission's 33 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 4: purpose and the responsibility that they had in developing this report. 34 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: It was something that we heard of. 35 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 4: Around February March last year when that report started getting underway, 36 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 4: and then we waited a good eight months or nine 37 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 4: months before that report was made public. So last year, 38 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 4: that report came out with a whole raft of opportunity 39 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 4: activity ways to be able to build the economy and 40 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 4: grow the territory in a long term, stainable way. So 41 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 4: really that two to ten year vision, but at the moment, 42 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 4: we just need to keep the pressure on about those timeframes. 43 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 4: So the milestones that were in that document. We need 44 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 4: to make sure they are getting hit in the right 45 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 4: times and that we don't drop. 46 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 3: The ball in making it happen. 47 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: So, Ruth, from your perspective, there was a milestone of February, 48 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: wasn't there for us to sort of hear from those departments? 49 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 3: That's right. 50 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 4: So the Chief Minister did have a directive to his 51 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 4: chief executives around what the departments would be doing and 52 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 4: their recommendations around how they were going to be implementing 53 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 4: parts of this report. So all the departments were given 54 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 4: that directive from the Chief Minister around how their departments 55 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 4: were going to be looking at this, how they were 56 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 4: going to be implementing it. But we're just still waiting 57 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 4: to hear from the outcomes of that. 58 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: Well, and it's now March, you know, it's the eleventh 59 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: of March, so I would hope that we're going to 60 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: hear some of the outcomes pretty soon. You know, why 61 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: is this important do you think for industry to actually 62 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: hear from those departments? And here's some of those different 63 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: you know, different sort of milestones or different KPIs that 64 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: they're going to really hold themselves to. 65 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: Well, that's right. This is the first step. 66 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 4: I mean, this process looks at the accountability. So if 67 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 4: we can't hit these timeframes, what does that really say 68 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 4: about what the departments are doing. So this is the 69 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 4: first one. We need to make sure that our departments 70 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 4: are on board with this, that they're all equipped, that 71 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 4: they're resourcing is right, that the capabilities are right, and 72 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 4: that the milestones are hit. So you know, this is 73 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 4: something that we can't afford to drop the ball on. 74 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 4: We need to make sure that the timeframes are met, 75 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 4: otherwise we will lose opportunities to other states and territories 76 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 4: around Australia that can put their hand up quickly and 77 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 4: then that can get projects off the ground. 78 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: I mean, this is one of the really big things. 79 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: It's one of the things that we spoke about, certainly 80 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: when the two had handed down those recommendations, is that 81 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: we are competing with other states in Australia, you know, 82 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: the likes of Western Australia for example. We've heard before 83 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: about their mining timeframes, that type of thing. But it's 84 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: also I think you know, from what I can see 85 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: from what the Property Council has sent out over the 86 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: last couple of days, is that you wanted to see 87 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: that accountability, knowing who's responsible for what, knowing what entity 88 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: is going to be responsible for completing all of these 89 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: recommendations and if those departments are going to have KPIs 90 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: those key performance indicators, really to make sure that those 91 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: recommendations are implemented. 92 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, Katie. 93 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 4: In every business in the territory would know if they 94 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 4: don't meet their KPIs, or if they don't meet key 95 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 4: milestones within their business, they can effectively lose customers. So 96 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 4: we need to make sure that the government looks at 97 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 4: this in the same way that those milestones have to 98 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 4: be met, that there's got to be. 99 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 3: Some accountability around the tasks and. 100 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 4: Responsibilities that the departments have or the people in the 101 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 4: departments that are looking after specific parts of this report. 102 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 4: So we need to make sure that there is key 103 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 4: performance indicators around this. 104 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 3: We need to make sure that all those a. 105 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 4: Part of this process are held accountable and that what 106 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 4: happens if those milestones aren't met. Is there going to 107 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 4: be conversation around well, if you can't meet them, now 108 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 4: what happens then? So again, like in a private business, 109 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 4: if those milestones aren't hit, then then there are some 110 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 4: there's some conversations that need to be had, Ruth, do 111 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 4: you think that with you know, with the milestones, with 112 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 4: those KPIs that and with that reporting and disclosure that 113 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 4: realistically it needs to be made very public ie that 114 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 4: you know, it needs to be up on their website 115 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 4: so that people can actually see, particularly industry, can actually 116 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 4: see whether those milestones are being messed and can see 117 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 4: exactly where things are at when it comes to the 118 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 4: to the Turk. Sure, and that comes back to transparency 119 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 4: and being open and honest with. 120 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: The people of the territory. 121 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 4: So we know we've got a government who did come 122 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 4: into a second term and a first term stating that 123 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 4: they would be transparent, that they will hold their selves 124 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 4: to account, and that they will be open and honest 125 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 4: with territorians. So we need to make sure that that 126 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 4: is still followed through and that we do see what's 127 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 4: happening on the ground so we can make investment decisions. 128 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 4: We need people to know that they can invest here 129 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 4: and have the certainty around wanting to come to the territory, 130 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 4: wanting to put their money here, but they need to 131 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 4: see that there is action happening and that we can 132 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 4: make these these opportunities become. 133 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: A reality ruths from your perspective, and I mean from 134 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: your industry's perspective really, because you are you know, you 135 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: are obviously speaking on behalf of the people that you 136 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: represent as part of the Property Council. From your perspective, 137 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: Are they you know, are they meeting so far? 138 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 2: Are they off to a good start. 139 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 4: Well, so we've sort of had these conversations with our 140 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 4: members and hearing around the grounds and we sort of 141 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 4: think that we're not even at that ten percent of 142 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 4: the report being looked at at the moment. 143 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 3: So it's it's a two to ten year time frame. 144 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 4: There is a lot of projects that do need to 145 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 4: be ticked off within that first two years. We're currently 146 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 4: putting together, which we've done now, a report card that 147 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 4: highlights all the key recommendations in that report that affect 148 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 4: our industry and we're scoring against that. So whether those 149 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 4: milestones have been have been reached within that zero to 150 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 4: two years, but then also that zero to five and 151 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 4: the zero to ten, because there are a lot of 152 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 4: key recommendations that do need to be ticked within those 153 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 4: areas and we are a little concerned. 154 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 3: That we might see the ball dropped. 155 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 4: But what we need to do as industry and everyone 156 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 4: else out there as well. 157 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 3: We need to just stay on it. 158 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 4: We need to stay the task, keep focused, but also 159 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 4: hold people to account on their responsibilities on getting this 160 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 4: report up and running, because we don't want to see 161 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 4: just another report sitting on the shelf that a lot 162 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 4: of effort, time and resources has had gone into. We 163 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 4: can't afford to see that happen again with this one. 164 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 4: This is the last chance, I think. 165 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got to say that's been the biggest concern 166 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: that's been raised with me since the work was completed, 167 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: or since the work was actually undertaken by the Territory 168 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: Economic Reconstruction Commission. You know, most people were saying, Look, 169 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: I don't think we're ever going to be in a 170 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: situation again where we've got people like Andrew Liveris and 171 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: everybody else that was on that board. You know, I 172 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: don't think we're going to be in a situation again 173 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: where you've got you such sort of great background being 174 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: able to look at what we can do differently. But 175 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: the really key part is going to be having all 176 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: of those recommendations implemented. 177 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: You know, It's one thing for them to do all of. 178 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: That great work, but if we don't actually see it implemented, 179 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: it really doesn't mean much. 180 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 4: Absolutely, and what a range of talented people we had 181 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 4: on that commission, and they did volunteer their time and 182 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 4: their effort to be a part of that to make 183 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 4: the territory the comeback capital, so to speak. So these 184 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 4: are people from all over Australia who are experts in 185 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 4: their field and for them to have given up that 186 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 4: time really shows that they can see potential in the 187 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 4: Northern Territory and how we can grow. But the thing 188 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 4: is now is that we need to honor the work 189 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 4: that they've done, realize that their expertise has put forward 190 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 4: a great document that can really lead some economic activity 191 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 4: for the territory. But now it's just about how that 192 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 4: gets rolled out effectively, but also in a way that 193 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 4: we can see that investment or opportunity will start happening. 194 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 4: We just can't go another year, another two years without 195 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 4: some major projects coming in, but also just a blueprint, 196 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 4: a really solid blueprint to drive the territory into the future. 197 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: Well. Ruth Palmer from the Property Council of Australia's Northern 198 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: Territory Division, also number seventeen on the Northern Territory News 199 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: Most Powerful Women List. Ruth, thanks so much for your 200 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: time this morning. 201 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 3: Cheers, thank you.