WEBVTT - President Trump (again)

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<v Speaker 1>Already, and this is the Daily This is the Daily OS.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh now it makes sense. Good morning, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>the Daily OS. It is Thursday, the seventh of November.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Billy, I'm Zara, Zara.

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<v Speaker 2>The air feels different.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a big day yesterday. I'm still tired.

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<v Speaker 2>History has arrived on our doorsteps. The future is here.

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump has been elected the next US president. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a historical day, a historical moment, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>a decision that will likely redefine the future of the

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<v Speaker 2>Republican Party. This was largely seen as a referendum on

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<v Speaker 2>the Republican Party and they kind of had two paths

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<v Speaker 2>that they could go down from here depending on this result.

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<v Speaker 2>And clearly the Trump era of the Republican Party is

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<v Speaker 2>here to stay. On today's podcast, we are sharing with

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<v Speaker 2>you how yes today went and our reflections and analysis

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<v Speaker 2>of one of the most important elections of our lifetimes.

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<v Speaker 3>Much has been said about how yesterday's election was, this

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<v Speaker 3>real moment in time. As you said, it was a

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<v Speaker 3>referendum on the Republican Party. Equally, it was a decisive

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<v Speaker 3>loss for the Democrats, and so much to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>and so much to learn from what we have found

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<v Speaker 3>out over the last twenty four hours. Can you just

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<v Speaker 3>tell me a bit about why it was so important,

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<v Speaker 3>why everyone felt like there was this kind of unprecedented

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<v Speaker 3>heir to the election.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So when we say that this election was history

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<v Speaker 2>in the making, that's because whoever won was going to

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<v Speaker 2>make history. So if we take Kamala Harris, if she

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<v Speaker 2>had won, she of course would have been the first

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<v Speaker 2>female US president. On the other hand, we have Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>and he is now one of only two presidents in

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<v Speaker 2>US history to win a second, non consecutive term. So

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<v Speaker 2>what that means is that usually when a president is

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<v Speaker 2>elected for a second term, it is right after their

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<v Speaker 2>first term. So if we look at Barack Obama, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>he was elected in two thousand and eight, and then

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<v Speaker 2>he was elected again in twenty twelve, it was consecutive.

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<v Speaker 2>In this case, Trump won in twenty sixteen, but then

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<v Speaker 2>of course he lost in twenty twenty and now he's

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<v Speaker 2>back in twenty twenty four and he is the second

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<v Speaker 2>president in US history.

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<v Speaker 1>To have done that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's incredible, but there are more ways he has made history.

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<v Speaker 2>So also he is the oldest president to ever be elected.

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<v Speaker 3>I think people will be quite surprised by this because

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<v Speaker 3>so much was said about Joe Biden exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so Joe Biden is older than Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>But when Joe Biden was elected in twenty twenty, he

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<v Speaker 2>was younger than Donald Trump. Is now so interesting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the last way that Donald Trump has made history, well,

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<v Speaker 2>he had previously made history for being the first former

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<v Speaker 2>president of the US to be convicted of felony crimes

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<v Speaker 2>after he was found guilty of falsifying records earlier this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he's the first convicted president. All in all, very historic,

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<v Speaker 2>a big moment and a lot to reflect on, Zara.

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<v Speaker 2>Should we go through how the day played out yesterday?

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<v Speaker 3>It's all a blur, but yes, so, I mean, if

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<v Speaker 3>we're to take the day as a whole, we came

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<v Speaker 3>into the office, we'd sat down for a day's work.

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<v Speaker 3>By mid morning, the first results were starting to trickle in,

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<v Speaker 3>and then within an hour of that, it was quite

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<v Speaker 3>clear that Donald Trump was ahead. It was that lead

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<v Speaker 3>that just continued to strengthen as the hours passed. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think at the beginning, when we first started getting

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<v Speaker 3>those numbers and first started seeing the numbers in those

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<v Speaker 3>swing states emerge, people and especially the media were really

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<v Speaker 3>cautious to say that this meant to anything that he

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<v Speaker 3>was in the lead very meaningfully. I think everyone is

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<v Speaker 3>very burnt by what happened both in twenty sixteen and

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty, and so everyone was being very cautious about

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<v Speaker 3>the that they were reporting Trump's lead at that time.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you say twenty twenty, it's because in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty there was a Republican swing at the start, but

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<v Speaker 2>that ended up being misleading because Joe Biden ended up

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<v Speaker 2>winning exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the conversation that emerges around the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>red states are always the first to be counted, just

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<v Speaker 3>by nature of geography, and you know, when polls close

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<v Speaker 3>and all of that. So we saw at the beginning

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<v Speaker 3>that Donald Trump was well ahead in terms of those

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<v Speaker 3>electoral College votes, and we explained how that worked yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>But in twenty twenty that was made up over time.

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<v Speaker 3>The same was not to be said yesterday. But I

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<v Speaker 3>think going into election day, a lot of us were

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<v Speaker 3>bracing for a really really long day and really long night,

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<v Speaker 3>and we weren't even sure how we were going to

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<v Speaker 3>do this podcast, what was going to happen. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>as afternoon came an early evening hit. It was pretty

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<v Speaker 3>clear that Donald Trump was home and host.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was at about six point thirty Australian Eastern

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<v Speaker 2>daylight time that Donald Trump came out and did a

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<v Speaker 2>press conference with his entire family behind him, also his

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<v Speaker 2>vice presidential pick JD. Vance, and he declared victory.

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<v Speaker 4>This was a movement like nobody's ever seen before. This

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<v Speaker 4>was I believe the greatest political movement of all time.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to thank the American people for the extraordinary

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<v Speaker 4>honor of being elected your forty seventh president and your

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<v Speaker 4>forty fifth president.

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<v Speaker 2>Zara, I think it's about now that you can say

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<v Speaker 2>I told you so. You did say on yesterday's podcast

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<v Speaker 2>that you were very confident that Trump would win. Now

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<v Speaker 2>that he has, what are your reflections about his victory.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I always think that you want to let things

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<v Speaker 3>run their course and let every ballot be assessed before

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<v Speaker 3>you go and talk about sweeping trends. But if I'm

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<v Speaker 3>to look at what we can see from the exit

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<v Speaker 3>polling and from those early calls, two points that I

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<v Speaker 3>thought were really interesting, and what I didn't pick up

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<v Speaker 3>on when we spoke yesterday was the Hispanic vote and

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<v Speaker 3>the Black vote in the US. So Donald Trump's popularity

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<v Speaker 3>among Hispanic voters increased exponentially from the last election. It's

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<v Speaker 3>very interesting, given a lot of his rhetoric and the

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<v Speaker 3>way that he has spoken about Hispanic communities that this

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<v Speaker 3>would be the case. But we saw two major media

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<v Speaker 3>exit polls showing him with at least forty three percent

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<v Speaker 3>of the Hispanic vote, which was up considerably from the

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<v Speaker 3>last time. And then another interesting point that I saw

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<v Speaker 3>is that in North Carolina, exit polls showed that Donald

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<v Speaker 3>Trump had boosted his popularity among black voters. So in

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<v Speaker 3>that state, which is of course a swing state, his

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<v Speaker 3>share of the black vote was up to twelve percent

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<v Speaker 3>from five percent in twenty twenty, so again a really

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<v Speaker 3>considerable jump there. According to that same exit poll, he

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<v Speaker 3>garnered the support of around twenty percent of black mail voters.

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<v Speaker 3>And obviously those were really early numbers that were coming out,

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<v Speaker 3>and it might shift in the days to come, but

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<v Speaker 3>I think those were just two really interesting demographics that

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<v Speaker 3>perhaps wouldn't have been considered traditional. Trump voters still overwhelmingly

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<v Speaker 3>got behind Kamala Harris, but certainly put a lot more

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<v Speaker 3>power behind Donald Trump than people expected.

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<v Speaker 2>So interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>What were your reflections, Billy.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the one thing that I was thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>a lot yesterday is the power of celebrity endorsements.

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<v Speaker 1>And so much has been said about those celebrity endorsements.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and who has a genuine political influence in the US.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the style of the people who endorse Kamala

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<v Speaker 2>Harris versus Donald Trump are very different in many ways,

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<v Speaker 2>but one way is in their style of communication with

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<v Speaker 2>their audience. So if we think of the people who

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<v Speaker 2>endorse Donald Trump, I think of Joe Rogan, Elon Musk,

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<v Speaker 2>and also Jake and Logan Paul, the Paul brothers, who

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<v Speaker 2>are influencers, and all of them have very direct styles

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<v Speaker 2>of communication with their audience, so on owned platforms, exactly

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<v Speaker 2>on their own platform. So if you think of someone

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<v Speaker 2>like Elon Musk, he is talking to his audience every

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<v Speaker 2>single day. And if someone in his audience says I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure about Donald Trump, because of this reason, he

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<v Speaker 2>can directly respond to them, he will. Yeah, I say,

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<v Speaker 2>not only can he he does, and he does it

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, and he is speaking to his audience every

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<v Speaker 2>single day, whereas they think if you think of the

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<v Speaker 2>people who endorsed Kamala Harris, and the people who got

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<v Speaker 2>the most attention it was people like Taylor Swift, Beyonce Oprah.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, those people are so big and perhaps so

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<v Speaker 2>inaccessible to their audience. Even if you just think about

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor Swift, who got so much attention when she endorsed

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris, that was one moment and he never heard

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<v Speaker 2>about it again, whereas with again Elon Musk Joe Rogan,

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<v Speaker 2>it was something that kept coming up because they kept

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<v Speaker 2>talking about it with their audience.

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<v Speaker 1>And had multiple touch points as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they directly addressed the concerns of their audience

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<v Speaker 2>multiple times.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's it's fascinating, and I think that especially

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<v Speaker 3>when we talk about you know, we said yesterday about

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<v Speaker 3>the young male voters, those are squarely the people who

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<v Speaker 3>are listening, reading, watching a Joe Rogan and Elon Musk,

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<v Speaker 3>Paul Brothers.

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<v Speaker 1>So it will be really.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting to see if there's analysis that's done afterwards about

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<v Speaker 3>what actual influence looks and feels like and whether that

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<v Speaker 3>has a changing face in twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to clarify, I'm not saying that that is the

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<v Speaker 2>entire picture or the entire reason why Donald Trump has won.

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<v Speaker 1>And an interesting point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that there will be so many contributing

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<v Speaker 2>factors that there'll be so much analyst about, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just personally think that that is perhaps one contributing factor.

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<v Speaker 3>Really interesting. But Billy, that's only one part. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>The presidency itself is only one part of what Americans

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<v Speaker 3>were going out.

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<v Speaker 1>To vote for yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>They were also going out to vote for what they

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<v Speaker 3>want the Congress, the future of Congress to look like,

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<v Speaker 3>and what the makeup of that looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>What do we find out yesterday?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think this is an often forgotten part about

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<v Speaker 2>US elections, that voters are not just electing the next president,

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<v Speaker 2>they are also looking at the Congress. If you're wondering

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<v Speaker 2>what Congress is, it is the House of Representatives, which

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<v Speaker 2>is the lower house, and also the Senate, which is

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<v Speaker 2>the upper house.

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<v Speaker 3>And just to jump in here, it is often forgotten

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<v Speaker 3>and often overlooked, but I would say it's as important,

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<v Speaker 3>if not more important, as to what the makeup of

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<v Speaker 3>Congress looks like, because a president that doesn't have support

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<v Speaker 3>in either house has a very tough time in getting

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<v Speaker 3>their policy agenda through and so what the makeup of

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<v Speaker 3>today's Congress looks like will very much influence what a

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump presidency looks like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and what we know at the time of recording

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<v Speaker 2>is that Donald Trump will have the support of the Senate.

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<v Speaker 2>So we know that the Senate, there are one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>seats there and the Republicans have won fifty one of

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<v Speaker 2>those seats, which means that he will be able to

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<v Speaker 2>pass legislation with the support of the Senate. However, they

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<v Speaker 2>will also need the support of the House of Representatives.

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<v Speaker 2>At the time of recording, the Republicans are ahead, but

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<v Speaker 2>they haven't security yet.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And Donald Trump said when he got up and spoke

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<v Speaker 3>last night that he expected that he will get the

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<v Speaker 3>support from the House, but we'll have to see what

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<v Speaker 3>happens there. But yeah, really can't stress enough how important

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<v Speaker 3>it is when a president has two houses that sit

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<v Speaker 3>on the other side of the political spectrum to them.

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<v Speaker 3>We've seen time and time again the bills just get

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<v Speaker 3>blocked and stalled in Congress, and it looks like Donald

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<v Speaker 3>Trump will not have that problem at all with this

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<v Speaker 3>session of Congress.

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<v Speaker 2>It's often a point of conversation of you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>we look at what Joe Biden's policies were and people

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<v Speaker 2>will say, Joe Biden, you said that you wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>cut student loans for young people. Why didn't you do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Often the reason is because he didn't have the support

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<v Speaker 2>of the Congress.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, always a form of negotiation to happen there. Now, Billy,

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<v Speaker 3>I think the one thing to just explain and to

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<v Speaker 3>zero in on is that just because Donald Trump has

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<v Speaker 3>won the presidency does not mean that from today he

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<v Speaker 3>becomes president.

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<v Speaker 2>No good point. So it's not like in Australia where

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<v Speaker 2>you are elected the leader and then literally the next

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<v Speaker 2>day you are the leader. In the US, the election

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<v Speaker 2>is in November, but whoever wins that election is not

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<v Speaker 2>actually inaugury into the presidency until January.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>My fun fact is that I was at Donald Trump's

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<v Speaker 3>last inauguration. I was studying in DC and thought that

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<v Speaker 3>that was, you know, a moment in history, and so

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<v Speaker 3>I went and look fair to say, I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>anyone predicted back then that there'd be a different president

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<v Speaker 3>in the middle, but that Donald Trump would be back

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<v Speaker 3>with a vengeance for a second time.

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<v Speaker 2>US politics is nothing if not unpredictable.

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<v Speaker 3>But just on that, Billy, can Donald Trump have a

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<v Speaker 3>second term now if he has already had a term

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<v Speaker 3>that wasn't consecutively linked to this term has been said

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<v Speaker 3>many times.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you get my drift?

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<v Speaker 2>No? So this will be Donald Trump's last four years

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<v Speaker 2>as president of the US, and that is for a

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<v Speaker 2>very big reason. That is because the US Constitution prevents

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<v Speaker 2>any president from being president for more than two terms,

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<v Speaker 2>so very explicitly says that no person can be elected

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<v Speaker 2>to the office of the president more than twice. Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump has now been elected.

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<v Speaker 3>Twice and counting will continue in the days and probably

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<v Speaker 3>weeks to come. But what we can know for sure

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<v Speaker 3>is that we will be hearing a lot more from

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<v Speaker 3>President elect Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a word. We'll be hearing a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>President elect Donald Trump. Zarah, it has been a pleasure

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<v Speaker 2>to go through the US election with you.

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<v Speaker 1>What a journey.

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