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Speaker 1: Already, and this is the Daily This is the Daily OS.

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Speaker 2: Oh now it makes sense. Good morning, and welcome to

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Speaker 2: the Daily OS. It is Thursday, the seventh of November.

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Speaker 3: I'm Billy, I'm Zara, Zara.

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Speaker 2: The air feels different.

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Speaker 1: It was a big day yesterday. I'm still tired.

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Speaker 2: History has arrived on our doorsteps. The future is here.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump has been elected the next US president. It

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Speaker 2: was a historical day, a historical moment, and it was

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Speaker 2: a decision that will likely redefine the future of the

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Speaker 2: Republican Party. This was largely seen as a referendum on

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Speaker 2: the Republican Party and they kind of had two paths

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Speaker 2: that they could go down from here depending on this result.

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Speaker 2: And clearly the Trump era of the Republican Party is

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Speaker 2: here to stay. On today's podcast, we are sharing with

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Speaker 2: you how yes today went and our reflections and analysis

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Speaker 2: of one of the most important elections of our lifetimes.

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Speaker 3: Much has been said about how yesterday's election was, this

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Speaker 3: referendum on the Republican Party. Equally, it was a decisive

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Speaker 3: loss for the Democrats, and so much to talk about

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Speaker 3: and so much to learn from what we have found

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Speaker 3: out over the last twenty four hours. Can you just

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Speaker 3: tell me a bit about why it was so important,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So when we say that this election was history

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Speaker 2: what that means is that usually when a president is

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Speaker 2: In this case, Trump won in twenty sixteen, but then

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Speaker 2: of course he lost in twenty twenty and now he's

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Speaker 1: To have done that.

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Speaker 2: It's incredible, but there are more ways he has made history.

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Speaker 2: So also he is the oldest president to ever be elected.

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Speaker 3: I think people will be quite surprised by this because

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Speaker 2: the last way that Donald Trump has made history, well,

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Speaker 2: he had previously made history for being the first former

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Speaker 2: a big moment and a lot to reflect on, Zara.

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Speaker 2: Should we go through how the day played out yesterday?

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Speaker 2: And when you say twenty twenty, it's because in twenty

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Speaker 4: This was a movement like nobody's ever seen before. This

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Speaker 4: I want to thank the American people for the extraordinary

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Speaker 2: Zara, I think it's about now that you can say

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Speaker 2: I told you so. You did say on yesterday's podcast

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Speaker 3: Look, I always think that you want to let things

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Speaker 2: I think the one thing that I was thinking about

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Speaker 1: And so much has been said about those celebrity endorsements.

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Speaker 1: And had multiple touch points as well.

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Speaker 2: Just to clarify, I'm not saying that that is the

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Speaker 3: Really interesting. But Billy, that's only one part. You know,

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Speaker 2: It's often a point of conversation of you know, if

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Speaker 2: Often the reason is because he didn't have the support

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Speaker 3: Yeah, always a form of negotiation to happen there. Now, Billy,

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Speaker 3: I think the one thing to just explain and to

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Speaker 2: No good point. So it's not like in Australia where

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Speaker 2: you are elected the leader and then literally the next

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: My fun fact is that I was at Donald Trump's

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Speaker 3: I went and look fair to say, I don't think

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Speaker 2: US politics is nothing if not unpredictable.

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Speaker 3: But just on that, Billy, can Donald Trump have a

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Speaker 1: Do you get my drift?

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Speaker 2: No? So this will be Donald Trump's last four years

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Speaker 3: Twice and counting will continue in the days and probably

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