WEBVTT - 'Woody' Whitelaw - I'M A CELEBRITY - TV Personality 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.600 TV Reload, the podcast past week that might welcome back 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:06.720 guys to TV Reload. As you may know, my name 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:09.360 is Benjamin Norris and this is your podcast to get 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:12.000 all the insight goss on the popular TV shows you 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:15.280 may be watching from around the world. Undeniably, our TV 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:17.919 sets are still a major part of our home entertainment, 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:20.799 and yet very little is known about how our favorite 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:23.279 shows get made. 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Yes, tougher than getting up for 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:08.280 breakfast radio, worse than an ob on a Saturday or 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:10.759 a Sunday, and much worse than recording a. 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:12.319 Live read for a yogurt stall. 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:15.880 Woody gave us laughs, speedos, and some tears, and he 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:18.520 joins me now to unpack the reality show, which has 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:21.720 been a huge success for Network ten's engagement. I will 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:24.560 ask Woody what the real reason was for taking on 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:28.160 the show alone, leaving his co host Will behind. We 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:31.800 will discuss some postgame thoughts, including what he should and 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.720 shouldn't have taken into the jungle. We will talk about 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:37.200 the fake salaries being leaked to the media and if 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:39.319 they were even close to what actually turns up in 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.360 your bank account. Plus, we will get plenty of exclusives 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:44.600 from behind the scenes of I'm a Celebrity, Get Me 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:47.400 Out of Here, which is now on Network ten, which 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:50.840 you can catch up on Tenplay if you've fallen behind anyway, 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:54.080 Let's bring Woody into the podcast, and you know what, 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:56.760 I really hope you enjoy this episode of TV Reload. 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:58.520 Hey, buddy, how are you? 0:01:58.840 --> 0:01:59.000 Hey? 0:01:59.160 --> 0:01:59.720 So good? 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:02.720 Okay, you I'm very well, And this is strange for 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:06.400 me because you've interviewed me on your shows before. I've 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:08.960 never had to interview you. So the shoes on the 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:09.440 other foot. 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.320 Yeah, we're flipping the tables. And from a memory, you 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:14.760 were a very good interview. So I will try and 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:16.720 lift my energy and provide you. 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:20.440 With some good stufff Well, congratulations on surviving the African jungle. 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:21.280 I'm very proud of you. 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:22.320 Thank you so much. 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:27.120 A bloody tough slog, really really difficult to deprivat in 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:31.040 missing my beautiful six months old daughter, missing my fiance. 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:35.720 So yes, I do appreciate you having some empathy there 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:38.840 on how table walls to get through twenty seven days. 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:40.800 One of the questions I always have for people to 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.040 go on these shows, and I'm sure you've watched them before, 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:46.160 when contestants go on them leaving their babies at home 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:49.079 and they get so upset and you hit the television 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.480 because You're like, they signed up for this, they knew 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:53.280 this was going to be tortures. They knew their baby 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:54.040 was going to be at home. 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:57.040 What happens? Did you get in there and forget they're 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:57.400 really good. 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:00.400 Bran, Like, I really, I've put myself here. You agreed 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:03.080 to do the show, so you can't really be getting 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:05.639 too angry about it. But I think for me, when 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:08.160 I was, you know, pondering whether to do the show 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:10.840 or not. To be fully honest, I was a no 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.720 early on just because of the baby thing. I was like, 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:15.400 my baby's going to be six months old, Like, I 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:17.959 just can't be away from home, not only because I've 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:21.239 missed the bub but also leaving my beautiful fiance min 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.160 one aunt with a baby is just not a very 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:27.480 good thing to do. But thankfully she was incredibly supportive, 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:28.400 and when. 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:30.520 I thought about it more, I really. 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:34.320 Wanted to do something that scared me and it was 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:38.000 really outside of my comfort zone to in some way 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.640 show my daughter that that is absolutely the way to 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:42.920 live your life. And whilst I appreciate that, you know, 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:45.160 given that she is six months old, she probably hasn't 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:49.600 taken in that lesson watching me in the gungle, but 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:50.200 when I'm. 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:52.160 She probably spent more time watching you. I mean, you 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:53.920 are is it work on the radio, So now she 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:55.120 gets to see you on the Telly. 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:57.560 My parents did saying that when I went into the jungle. 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:59.640 They were like, this, this is us hanging out. 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:02.000 With you more that when you live twenty. 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.000 Minutes away, we actually like get to catch up with 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:05.240 you every night, which was nice. 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:08.640 I thought it was really pretty and really nice when 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:11.200 you spoke to your dad on your drive show today 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:13.440 and you said, you know what, moving forward, I'm going 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:14.960 to give you a call while I you know, push 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.760 my bike or ride my mike after doing the radio 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:21.080 show every day. Isn't it funny how these experiences can 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:23.880 make you really miss those people that are very important 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:25.960 to you in the outside world totally and. 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:30.360 Family, and you just big time like every spare moment 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:32.640 I have now I'm going to spend with my little girl, 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:34.960 Remy and my fiance min and I just feel like 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:38.400 it prioritizes your life so beautifully. And you know, when 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:41.080 I was thinking about how much I get from spending 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:44.720 time with Remy, I naturally went to my parents and 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:48.599 was like, ah, it's so not fair that I really 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:51.520 I'll put my hand up and rather ashamedly admit that 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:53.839 I'll go a few weeks without speaking to my parents, 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:56.240 and you know, they obviously would love to hear from me. 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:59.120 More so I have set that that every single show 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:01.400 that I finish, I'm going to call Mum and dads, 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.800 and I imagine after two weeks of this, they're probably 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.520 going to start sleeping. But maybe I go back to 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:08.760 my old ways and. 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:12.359 An answering machine. Please leave a message after the beef. 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:17.800 You know, you know, now that you've experienced the jungle, 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:20.240 what is something that you took into the jungle that 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.359 you didn't need? Because you know, you're often told, okay, 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:25.160 you can take a few things in there to survive, 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:26.440 clothing being some of it. 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:28.479 But is there anything that brought in yourself? What the 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:29.200 hell is this here? 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:29.880 Umm? 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:34.040 I actually I'm not a very organized or planned gentleman, ben, 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:38.560 So I actually didn't bring that much in. I strapped 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:41.839 a whole bunch of salt and pepper and beef seasoning 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:42.640 and sugar to. 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:44.760 My inner thigh, just in case you want to cook 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:45.920 yourself on the barbecue. 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.760 And that was actually, that was so necessary because, let 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:51.640 me tell you, after twenty seven days of just rice 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:57.400 and beans, slavor is a beautiful, beautiful thing that everyone 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.280 just needs to appreciate so much more So, what did 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:01.400 I bring in that I didn't need? 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:02.000 Yeah? 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:06.800 Again, I didn't bring in anything, so the hars question, 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:09.640 they were kind of just using me as almost like 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:12.040 a rub though. You know, if you had a piece 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:14.200 of meat, you could just sort of rub it along 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:16.040 my inner thigh, and then all of a sudden it 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:17.880 was a delicious piece of meat. 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.640 And you know what, we were so desperate for food. 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:23.640 In there that if someone did have a salty thigh 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.640 or you know, some sort of taste on their body, 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.640 I one hundred percent would have rubbed meat through it. 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:33.839 At one point, Adam Cooney did have cake on his 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:36.920 body from one of the trials, and I found myself 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:42.000 on both knees licking cake off his shorts at one point, 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:45.760 and in the moment, that was totally normal. 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:48.320 There's a deleted scene that we need on the on 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:51.920 the DVD. This actually leads me to my next question. 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.760 Oh yeah, you might be This might be. 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:57.000 One of the boldest choices, one of the biggest choices 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:59.919 a man can ever make when they go on television. 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:03.640 Do I wear speedos? And you decided to take that 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:05.880 challenge on? I guess you know, as time went on 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:08.839 and you got thin and everything seemed bigger, what was 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.320 that decision make baking process like for you. 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:16.440 Well, so I did tospeedos just out of like convenience, 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:17.320 like I didn't want to. 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:19.680 Have wet shorts. 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:21.360 Like wet board shorts that I was dealing with every day, 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:24.720 chafing exactly like you know, the jungle is not a place. 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:27.960 For shape as all jungle people will stay. 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.200 But I'll take that one step further. I also made 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:34.440 the decision to shower nud pretty early on in the 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:37.920 hope that you know, respect would be paid in the 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.840 camera center, that maybe the cameras would go down when 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:43.640 I was showering Nerd. But when I went in, when 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:46.560 I went into the control center and I was having 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.440 cold showers, there was no warm water. So the toddra 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:53.120 had never looked worse, never looked smaller. And yeah, again, 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:54.960 I was showing every single day and I walked into 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:57.560 the control center and I saw that there were like 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:00.760 four cameras on the shower, like they had every single 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.280 angle of the shower where I was showering Nerds. 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:04.680 And I made the comment. 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:07.320 Of hey, guys, just so you know, the water was 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:11.600 really really cold, and the laugh I received was far 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.080 too loud to the point where it was like right, 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:17.080 so you obviously saw it, and you were obviously all 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.120 joking and laughing about the fact that it did look 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:23.280 so unimpressive, And then one guy even got up and 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:25.440 was like, yeah, you actually did it a favor because 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:27.360 when we had to pixelate the rude bits, we only 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:32.400 needed two pixels. 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.640 So you know what I was going to say, I'm 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.320 going to have to you know, Brian Alex Maverdike has 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:39.200 for some footage, but it turns out I need to. 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:41.240 I can save my money. I can save lots of 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:42.839 my money. I don't. I don't need to see that 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:44.160 at all. I can give it a miss. 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:46.480 No, no, you definitely die. But if you do get it, 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:48.440 just make sure you look at it with a magnifying glass. 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:50.880 Alrighty, I'm buying it now. I want to ask you. 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:52.880 We want to get real for a second. So what 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.360 is the real reason that you went into this show 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:57.800 without will because we know they would have come and 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:00.640 asked you both to do it. Is something more to 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:02.720 this that we as an audience would like to know 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:05.320 as to what that decision making process was like for 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:06.240 the both of you. 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.960 No, not really. We obviously chatted about it, where you know, 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:13.160 we're best friends. The love we have between each other 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:16.240 is a really beautiful, beautiful thing, and it was just 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:20.800 an experience that Will really didn't want to do. For 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:24.280 him personally, the idea of you know, getting filmed twenty 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:26.640 four hours a day, seven days a week and you know, 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:30.560 living your life with really zero control was just something 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:34.040 that he wasn't up for. But for me, yeah, I 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:37.840 wanted the challenge to take it on. So yeah, we 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:40.640 had a really good conversation about it, and he's been 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.600 incredibly supportive from the get go. You know, he's been 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.000 the one back in Australia holding down the fort with 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:48.160 the radio show. He's, you know, from all reports, did 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:52.440 an incredible job with Brooke Bony. While I was there 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:53.480 in the jungle. 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:57.880 I was listening and you've been replaced. No mother than kidding. 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.560 I always wanted to be okay, but not too good, 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:05.319 and unfortunately Brook is a very talented woman. 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:07.559 I'll need to be good when I when I return. 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:09.680 Well, I think you will. I think your job safe. 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:10.440 It's totally fine. 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:13.079 If she was found good, we'll made sure that she 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.319 had some spicy food and then she sounded terrible on air. 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:19.400 Was it fun just quietly to do something by yourself? Though, 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:22.280 because you know, you've been in this duo for as 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:24.160 long as I can remember. You know, this is a 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.920 long companionship that you guys have had, you know, person 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:30.360 Melbourne and all the other things that have happened. But 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:32.480 you know, what about a little bit of satisfaction that 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:33.480 this was something for you? 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:37.079 Ah, It's a really good question. Like I don't think 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:41.240 it comes down to fun or anything like that, because 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:43.920 I just think that every experience I've had in this 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:47.280 entertainment industry, which has been alongside Will, has been doubled 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:50.120 because we get to share it together. And I mean, 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:52.360 you know, you know as well as anyone in the 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:55.040 entertainment industry it can be a really tough beast as well, 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.320 So when you go through a tough patch, we also 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:58.960 get to share that, and I think that's a really 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.840 beautiful thing. Think the entertainment industry can be really lonely 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:04.480 if you're just doing things by yourself, and that's certainly 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:07.120 not something that I want to be doing. I really 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:09.760 do want him by my side in every single thing. 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:10.080 That I do. 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:13.400 But you know, on the other side, I am someone 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:16.720 who really struggles with self confidence and self worth and 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:23.280 I only really feel confident about our radio show because 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.680 I'm doing it with him. It was actually a nice 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:29.800 experience for me personally to be able to go into 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:33.120 the jungle by myself and you know, tackle that lack 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.320 of self confidence head on and come out of the 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:39.000 experience and realize that, hey, you know you are worthy, 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:42.600 and you know you people seem to like me in there, 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:45.080 and you know, people have said some really beautiful things 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:47.880 about watching me in there, and I guess that was 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:51.400 really important for my personal developments and I hope that 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:54.040 that makes me a better partner for Will when we 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:55.880 get back into you know, doing things together. 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:56.440 Yeah. 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:57.839 I think for a lot of people that do these 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:00.280 shows that it is a huge part of self reflection, 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:02.920 and you know, it makes you think about things a 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:04.960 little bit differently, and it sounds surreal if you haven't 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:06.880 done it. People be like, oh, you know, going on 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:08.920 a reality show, it sounds like it's all about. 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:11.280 You, But it's actually a little bit of the opposite. 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:15.320 You know, you actually learn better ways to interact with people, 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:17.240 and on a show like this as well, had to 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:19.160 be more generous with the people around you to let 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:21.920 them shine as well. And it must admit that was 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.000 some of my favorite moments of you being in there, 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:26.960 some of those sort of micro interviews that you were 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:29.280 doing with the people that you lived with. There was 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:32.160 some real generosity to get something decent out of that, 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:34.400 and I mean that's years of you've been doing radio 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:36.720 and being very good at it. But I just thought, 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:39.520 thank you, that was some amazing television. And they were 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:42.040 like micro auditions for you know, doctor Chris Brown, who's 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:42.679 going to leave soon. 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.360 Yeah, that's that's pretty that rumor what do you to 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:47.280 replace Chris Brown? 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:49.360 In season moment, he. 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:52.560 Had the same conversation with Pete yesterday and everyone back 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:54.640 up home saying that it could be Jimmy Rae. So 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:56.800 I think we get the three of you back here 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:57.719 to wrestle it out. 0:12:57.720 --> 0:12:58.240 What do you reckon? 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.080 I don't mind it comes a bit of arm rest. 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:03.960 Although I've lost six kilos since been in the jungle, 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:06.200 they're absolutely twives at the moment, so I'd be very 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:07.600 worried about one of my arms snapping. 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:09.560 I actually thought that you were going to win this series. 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:12.680 It's a real shock to me because when I you know, 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:14.920 I thought straight away, I was like, you know, oh, yeah, 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:16.480 it's great that he's in there, and then when I 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:18.559 was watching, I was like, Oh, he's this is his 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:20.640 He's going to win this. And then for you to 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:22.320 come out at this point, and then to see the 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:25.360 people that left behind there really have been these sort 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:29.319 of more newbies to the industry, really and some bit 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.200 of a surprise to see you guys all come out. 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:33.679 My question to you is this, do you think all 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:36.079 the people that have come out, who have bigger personalities 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:39.880 and more experience have a harder time to relax and 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:43.240 just be themselves, which I guess this show we're seeing 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:46.480 audiences really connect to the people that are you know, 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:50.199 Waltz and all, you know, truthful to themselves. And then 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:52.120 you've got someone at the height of that at Kerry 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.600 and Kennelly, you know, who couldn't take it down. You know, 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:56.480 you've got other people like Pete Halleer who's been on 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:59.480 our TV screens, you know, every weeknight for god knows 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:02.320 how long. Do you think that has anything to do 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:04.520 with the way in which these contestants have come out 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:06.400 of the show and how well these people are still 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:07.160 in there are doing. 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:11.000 It's a really good question. I personally didn't detect that 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:13.520 at all, like I thought Pete and the you know, 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:17.040 the bigger profiles were you know, just as open and 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:20.400 vulnerable and honest as the rest of us. Like I 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:23.840 really can't speak enough about how close we all got 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:27.920 through this experience, and like I had dinner with Pete 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:31.800 last night because obviously he's he's still here, and you know, 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.400 it's just so special that I can say that he's 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.160 a friend now because you know, as a teenager, you know, 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:38.960 when he was on Row Live, I've just like. 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:39.920 Idolized the guy. 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:43.120 And now I'm still sort of pinching myself that, you know, 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:46.760 I've had this experience with him, and yeah, we we're 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.080 genuinely mates. We live pretty close together, so you know, 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:52.880 I look forward to, you know, continuing with these amazing 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:55.640 relationships that I've made in the jungle. But yeah, no, 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.480 I don't think it was any level of the high 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:02.440 profile people holding back at all. I actually think, I mean, 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:04.480 the vote to save is a really interesting one, right, 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:08.840 because maybe there was a level of people thinking that 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:12.120 the high profile people were safer, you know what I mean. 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:13.960 I'm not saying that about myself, by the way, I'm 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:15.040 not trying to make excuses. 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:16.680 Come on, that's not what we want to hear, we 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:19.560 want to hear excuses, come on, just grab on to anything. 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:24.320 But I get ie more referring to you know, Pete, 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:27.760 maybe the Honey Badger who had a huge profile, even 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.520 Dick O Dom. I mean these people have or Dick 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:32.720 I doesn't have socials, but Dom's I think, got half 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.520 a million Instagram followers, and there might be a level 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.960 of people, yeah, like you know, I came into this 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:42.960 competition with twelve thousand Instagram followers and I genuinely don't 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.920 know how I managed to survive until the final six. 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:47.880 But I do think there may have been a level 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:49.600 of people going, oh, they'll be fine. 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.360 I don't need to vote to save them. I don't know. 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:54.920 I mean who now, but no one knew who Nathan was. 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:57.720 Like in Australia, he's got like yeah, says, I don't 0:15:57.760 --> 0:15:59.080 know what the number is, so I'm going to say 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:01.600 he's got a million and two a billion people following 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:04.280 him on Instagram. But here in Australia you should have 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:07.200 seen on social media people were like who is that guy? However, 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:09.880 if you talk about him now to people that are 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:11.520 watching that show, they're obsessed with. 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:14.160 Him, like yeah, this show, Yeah. 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.000 I'm not a celebrity at the moment, but I'm now 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:17.720 on the show, and now I'm a celebrity. 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:19.560 I mean, it's a trickier name and it probably won't 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:25.400 catch on that you look at Nathan. He's still in there. 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:26.840 If you would have asked me the first week, I 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:28.640 wouldn't have put on sports bet. I wouldn't have been 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:30.400 betting for him at all. I would have been going, oh, well, 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:31.680 he's the first boot. 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:33.760 Yeah, that's very true. And I actually don't want to 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.880 take anything away from just how amazing Nathan has been 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:40.800 in there, because he's so entertaining, he's so funny, but 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:43.440 he's also got this beautiful. 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:44.040 Warmth term as well. 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:46.960 Which it's actually been a beautiful journey with Nathan because 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:49.640 initially it was very loud and he was telling very 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.560 funny stories and he was the entertainer. But as the 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:56.040 time went on, he really came into his own and 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:58.040 felt comfortable being exactly who he is. 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.760 And I'm really happy that from this experience. 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:02.760 And I had conversations with him about it's only a 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:04.640 couple of days ago when I was still in camp, 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:06.680 and he was saying that it's nice that I feel 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.879 like I can be myself and that's enough, and you know, 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:13.480 people enjoy seeing that. I consider myself very, very lucky 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.679 that whenever I'm in the UK, I've got someone to 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:16.920 call and you. 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:19.200 Know, hang out with you only want you want someone 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:24.600 to sleep. That's great, and be in love with him 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:27.119 as well. I definitely saved his house. Probably we did 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:28.840 a little bit more, but that's a different podcast. But 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:33.600 I'm so interested about these headlines today. Everyone that comes 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:35.680 out gets a headline attach them. And you're on Kyle 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:39.000 and Jacko this morning, and they talked about salaries. Everyone's 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:40.720