Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
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Speaker 1: This chat, I'm joined by fifty percent of the Will
Speaker 1: and Woody Drive show from Kiss FM.
Speaker 2: That's the Woody part.
Speaker 1: Just for clarity, the man who has just been eliminated
Speaker 1: from the African Jungle on I'm a Celebrity, Get Me
Speaker 1: out of Here, The popular radio host had taken on
Speaker 1: Celebrity Apprentice Ninja Warrior, but nothing prepared him for what
Speaker 1: Network ten had install. Yes, tougher than getting up for
Speaker 1: breakfast radio, worse than an ob on a Saturday or
Speaker 1: a Sunday, and much worse than recording a.
Speaker 2: Live read for a yogurt stall.
Speaker 1: Woody gave us laughs, speedos, and some tears, and he
Speaker 1: joins me now to unpack the reality show, which has
Speaker 1: been a huge success for Network ten's engagement. I will
Speaker 1: ask Woody what the real reason was for taking on
Speaker 1: the show alone, leaving his co host Will behind. We
Speaker 1: will discuss some postgame thoughts, including what he should and
Speaker 1: shouldn't have taken into the jungle. We will talk about
Speaker 1: the fake salaries being leaked to the media and if
Speaker 1: they were even close to what actually turns up in
Speaker 1: your bank account. Plus, we will get plenty of exclusives
Speaker 1: from behind the scenes of I'm a Celebrity, Get Me
Speaker 1: Out of Here, which is now on Network ten, which
Speaker 1: you can catch up on Tenplay if you've fallen behind anyway,
Speaker 1: Let's bring Woody into the podcast, and you know what,
Speaker 1: I really hope you enjoy this episode of TV Reload.
Speaker 2: Hey, buddy, how are you?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 2: So good?
Speaker 1: Okay, you I'm very well, And this is strange for
Speaker 1: me because you've interviewed me on your shows before. I've
Speaker 1: never had to interview you. So the shoes on the
Speaker 1: other foot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're flipping the tables. And from a memory, you
Speaker 3: were a very good interview. So I will try and
Speaker 3: lift my energy and provide you.
Speaker 1: With some good stufff Well, congratulations on surviving the African jungle.
Speaker 2: I'm very proud of you.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: A bloody tough slog, really really difficult to deprivat in
Speaker 3: missing my beautiful six months old daughter, missing my fiance.
Speaker 3: So yes, I do appreciate you having some empathy there
Speaker 3: on how table walls to get through twenty seven days.
Speaker 1: One of the questions I always have for people to
Speaker 1: go on these shows, and I'm sure you've watched them before,
Speaker 1: when contestants go on them leaving their babies at home
Speaker 1: and they get so upset and you hit the television
Speaker 1: because You're like, they signed up for this, they knew
Speaker 1: this was going to be tortures. They knew their baby
Speaker 1: was going to be at home.
Speaker 2: What happens? Did you get in there and forget they're
Speaker 2: really good.
Speaker 3: Bran, Like, I really, I've put myself here. You agreed
Speaker 3: to do the show, so you can't really be getting
Speaker 3: too angry about it. But I think for me, when
Speaker 3: I was, you know, pondering whether to do the show
Speaker 3: or not. To be fully honest, I was a no
Speaker 3: early on just because of the baby thing. I was like,
Speaker 3: my baby's going to be six months old, Like, I
Speaker 3: just can't be away from home, not only because I've
Speaker 3: missed the bub but also leaving my beautiful fiance min
Speaker 3: one aunt with a baby is just not a very
Speaker 3: good thing to do. But thankfully she was incredibly supportive,
Speaker 3: and when.
Speaker 4: I thought about it more, I really.
Speaker 3: Wanted to do something that scared me and it was
Speaker 3: really outside of my comfort zone to in some way
Speaker 3: show my daughter that that is absolutely the way to
Speaker 3: live your life. And whilst I appreciate that, you know,
Speaker 3: given that she is six months old, she probably hasn't
Speaker 3: taken in that lesson watching me in the gungle, but
Speaker 3: when I'm.
Speaker 1: She probably spent more time watching you. I mean, you
Speaker 1: are is it work on the radio, So now she
Speaker 1: gets to see you on the Telly.
Speaker 3: My parents did saying that when I went into the jungle.
Speaker 3: They were like, this, this is us hanging out.
Speaker 4: With you more that when you live twenty.
Speaker 3: Minutes away, we actually like get to catch up with
Speaker 3: you every night, which was nice.
Speaker 1: I thought it was really pretty and really nice when
Speaker 1: you spoke to your dad on your drive show today
Speaker 1: and you said, you know what, moving forward, I'm going
Speaker 1: to give you a call while I you know, push
Speaker 1: my bike or ride my mike after doing the radio
Speaker 1: show every day. Isn't it funny how these experiences can
Speaker 1: make you really miss those people that are very important
Speaker 1: to you in the outside world totally and.
Speaker 3: Family, and you just big time like every spare moment
Speaker 3: I have now I'm going to spend with my little girl,
Speaker 3: Remy and my fiance min and I just feel like
Speaker 3: it prioritizes your life so beautifully. And you know, when
Speaker 3: I was thinking about how much I get from spending
Speaker 3: time with Remy, I naturally went to my parents and
Speaker 3: was like, ah, it's so not fair that I really
Speaker 3: I'll put my hand up and rather ashamedly admit that
Speaker 3: I'll go a few weeks without speaking to my parents,
Speaker 3: and you know, they obviously would love to hear from me.
Speaker 3: More so I have set that that every single show
Speaker 3: that I finish, I'm going to call Mum and dads,
Speaker 3: and I imagine after two weeks of this, they're probably
Speaker 3: going to start sleeping. But maybe I go back to
Speaker 3: my old ways and.
Speaker 2: An answering machine. Please leave a message after the beef.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, now that you've experienced the jungle,
Speaker 1: what is something that you took into the jungle that
Speaker 1: you didn't need? Because you know, you're often told, okay,
Speaker 1: you can take a few things in there to survive,
Speaker 1: clothing being some of it.
Speaker 2: But is there anything that brought in yourself? What the
Speaker 2: hell is this here?
Speaker 1: Umm?
Speaker 3: I actually I'm not a very organized or planned gentleman, ben,
Speaker 3: So I actually didn't bring that much in. I strapped
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of salt and pepper and beef seasoning
Speaker 3: and sugar to.
Speaker 1: My inner thigh, just in case you want to cook
Speaker 1: yourself on the barbecue.
Speaker 3: And that was actually, that was so necessary because, let
Speaker 3: me tell you, after twenty seven days of just rice
Speaker 3: and beans, slavor is a beautiful, beautiful thing that everyone
Speaker 3: just needs to appreciate so much more So, what did
Speaker 3: I bring in that I didn't need?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Again, I didn't bring in anything, so the hars question,
Speaker 3: they were kind of just using me as almost like
Speaker 3: a rub though. You know, if you had a piece
Speaker 3: of meat, you could just sort of rub it along
Speaker 3: my inner thigh, and then all of a sudden it
Speaker 3: was a delicious piece of meat.
Speaker 4: And you know what, we were so desperate for food.
Speaker 3: In there that if someone did have a salty thigh
Speaker 3: or you know, some sort of taste on their body,
Speaker 3: I one hundred percent would have rubbed meat through it.
Speaker 3: At one point, Adam Cooney did have cake on his
Speaker 3: body from one of the trials, and I found myself
Speaker 3: on both knees licking cake off his shorts at one point,
Speaker 3: and in the moment, that was totally normal.
Speaker 1: There's a deleted scene that we need on the on
Speaker 1: the DVD. This actually leads me to my next question.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you might be This might be.
Speaker 1: One of the boldest choices, one of the biggest choices
Speaker 1: a man can ever make when they go on television.
Speaker 1: Do I wear speedos? And you decided to take that
Speaker 1: challenge on? I guess you know, as time went on
Speaker 1: and you got thin and everything seemed bigger, what was
Speaker 1: that decision make baking process like for you.
Speaker 3: Well, so I did tospeedos just out of like convenience,
Speaker 3: like I didn't want to.
Speaker 4: Have wet shorts.
Speaker 3: Like wet board shorts that I was dealing with every day,
Speaker 3: chafing exactly like you know, the jungle is not a place.
Speaker 4: For shape as all jungle people will stay.
Speaker 3: But I'll take that one step further. I also made
Speaker 3: the decision to shower nud pretty early on in the
Speaker 3: hope that you know, respect would be paid in the
Speaker 3: camera center, that maybe the cameras would go down when
Speaker 3: I was showering Nerd. But when I went in, when
Speaker 3: I went into the control center and I was having
Speaker 3: cold showers, there was no warm water. So the toddra
Speaker 3: had never looked worse, never looked smaller. And yeah, again,
Speaker 3: I was showing every single day and I walked into
Speaker 3: the control center and I saw that there were like
Speaker 3: four cameras on the shower, like they had every single
Speaker 3: angle of the shower where I was showering Nerds.
Speaker 4: And I made the comment.
Speaker 3: Of hey, guys, just so you know, the water was
Speaker 3: really really cold, and the laugh I received was far
Speaker 3: too loud to the point where it was like right,
Speaker 3: so you obviously saw it, and you were obviously all
Speaker 3: joking and laughing about the fact that it did look
Speaker 3: so unimpressive, And then one guy even got up and
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, you actually did it a favor because
Speaker 3: when we had to pixelate the rude bits, we only
Speaker 3: needed two pixels.
Speaker 1: So you know what I was going to say, I'm
Speaker 1: going to have to you know, Brian Alex Maverdike has
Speaker 1: for some footage, but it turns out I need to.
Speaker 2: I can save my money. I can save lots of
Speaker 2: my money. I don't. I don't need to see that
Speaker 2: at all. I can give it a miss.
Speaker 3: No, no, you definitely die. But if you do get it,
Speaker 3: just make sure you look at it with a magnifying glass.
Speaker 1: Alrighty, I'm buying it now. I want to ask you.
Speaker 1: We want to get real for a second. So what
Speaker 1: is the real reason that you went into this show
Speaker 1: without will because we know they would have come and
Speaker 1: asked you both to do it. Is something more to
Speaker 1: this that we as an audience would like to know
Speaker 1: as to what that decision making process was like for
Speaker 1: the both of you.
Speaker 3: No, not really. We obviously chatted about it, where you know,
Speaker 3: we're best friends. The love we have between each other
Speaker 3: is a really beautiful, beautiful thing, and it was just
Speaker 3: an experience that Will really didn't want to do. For
Speaker 3: him personally, the idea of you know, getting filmed twenty
Speaker 3: four hours a day, seven days a week and you know,
Speaker 3: living your life with really zero control was just something
Speaker 3: that he wasn't up for. But for me, yeah, I
Speaker 3: wanted the challenge to take it on. So yeah, we
Speaker 3: had a really good conversation about it, and he's been
Speaker 3: incredibly supportive from the get go. You know, he's been
Speaker 3: the one back in Australia holding down the fort with
Speaker 3: the radio show. He's, you know, from all reports, did
Speaker 3: an incredible job with Brooke Bony. While I was there
Speaker 3: in the jungle.
Speaker 1: I was listening and you've been replaced. No mother than kidding.
Speaker 3: I always wanted to be okay, but not too good,
Speaker 3: and unfortunately Brook is a very talented woman.
Speaker 4: I'll need to be good when I when I return.
Speaker 2: Well, I think you will. I think your job safe.
Speaker 2: It's totally fine.
Speaker 1: If she was found good, we'll made sure that she
Speaker 1: had some spicy food and then she sounded terrible on air.
Speaker 1: Was it fun just quietly to do something by yourself? Though,
Speaker 1: because you know, you've been in this duo for as
Speaker 1: long as I can remember. You know, this is a
Speaker 1: long companionship that you guys have had, you know, person
Speaker 1: Melbourne and all the other things that have happened. But
Speaker 1: you know, what about a little bit of satisfaction that
Speaker 1: this was something for you?
Speaker 3: Ah, It's a really good question. Like I don't think
Speaker 3: it comes down to fun or anything like that, because
Speaker 3: I just think that every experience I've had in this
Speaker 3: entertainment industry, which has been alongside Will, has been doubled
Speaker 3: because we get to share it together. And I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, you know as well as anyone in the
Speaker 3: entertainment industry it can be a really tough beast as well,
Speaker 3: So when you go through a tough patch, we also
Speaker 3: get to share that, and I think that's a really
Speaker 3: beautiful thing. Think the entertainment industry can be really lonely
Speaker 3: if you're just doing things by yourself, and that's certainly
Speaker 3: not something that I want to be doing. I really
Speaker 3: do want him by my side in every single thing.
Speaker 4: That I do.
Speaker 3: But you know, on the other side, I am someone
Speaker 3: who really struggles with self confidence and self worth and
Speaker 3: I only really feel confident about our radio show because
Speaker 3: I'm doing it with him. It was actually a nice
Speaker 3: experience for me personally to be able to go into
Speaker 3: the jungle by myself and you know, tackle that lack
Speaker 3: of self confidence head on and come out of the
Speaker 3: experience and realize that, hey, you know you are worthy,
Speaker 3: and you know you people seem to like me in there,
Speaker 3: and you know, people have said some really beautiful things
Speaker 3: about watching me in there, and I guess that was
Speaker 3: really important for my personal developments and I hope that
Speaker 3: that makes me a better partner for Will when we
Speaker 3: get back into you know, doing things together.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think for a lot of people that do these
Speaker 1: shows that it is a huge part of self reflection,
Speaker 1: and you know, it makes you think about things a
Speaker 1: little bit differently, and it sounds surreal if you haven't
Speaker 1: done it. People be like, oh, you know, going on
Speaker 1: a reality show, it sounds like it's all about.
Speaker 2: You, But it's actually a little bit of the opposite.
Speaker 1: You know, you actually learn better ways to interact with people,
Speaker 1: and on a show like this as well, had to
Speaker 1: be more generous with the people around you to let
Speaker 1: them shine as well. And it must admit that was
Speaker 1: some of my favorite moments of you being in there,
Speaker 1: some of those sort of micro interviews that you were
Speaker 1: doing with the people that you lived with. There was
Speaker 1: some real generosity to get something decent out of that,
Speaker 1: and I mean that's years of you've been doing radio
Speaker 1: and being very good at it. But I just thought,
Speaker 1: thank you, that was some amazing television. And they were
Speaker 1: like micro auditions for you know, doctor Chris Brown, who's
Speaker 1: going to leave soon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's pretty that rumor what do you to
Speaker 3: replace Chris Brown?
Speaker 4: In season moment, he.
Speaker 1: Had the same conversation with Pete yesterday and everyone back
Speaker 1: up home saying that it could be Jimmy Rae. So
Speaker 1: I think we get the three of you back here
Speaker 1: to wrestle it out.
Speaker 2: What do you reckon?
Speaker 3: I don't mind it comes a bit of arm rest.
Speaker 3: Although I've lost six kilos since been in the jungle,
Speaker 3: they're absolutely twives at the moment, so I'd be very
Speaker 3: worried about one of my arms snapping.
Speaker 2: I actually thought that you were going to win this series.
Speaker 1: It's a real shock to me because when I you know,
Speaker 1: I thought straight away, I was like, you know, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's great that he's in there, and then when I
Speaker 1: was watching, I was like, Oh, he's this is his
Speaker 1: He's going to win this. And then for you to
Speaker 1: come out at this point, and then to see the
Speaker 1: people that left behind there really have been these sort
Speaker 1: of more newbies to the industry, really and some bit
Speaker 1: of a surprise to see you guys all come out.
Speaker 1: My question to you is this, do you think all
Speaker 1: the people that have come out, who have bigger personalities
Speaker 1: and more experience have a harder time to relax and
Speaker 1: just be themselves, which I guess this show we're seeing
Speaker 1: audiences really connect to the people that are you know,
Speaker 1: Waltz and all, you know, truthful to themselves. And then
Speaker 1: you've got someone at the height of that at Kerry
Speaker 1: and Kennelly, you know, who couldn't take it down. You know,
Speaker 1: you've got other people like Pete Halleer who's been on
Speaker 1: our TV screens, you know, every weeknight for god knows
Speaker 1: how long. Do you think that has anything to do
Speaker 1: with the way in which these contestants have come out
Speaker 1: of the show and how well these people are still
Speaker 1: in there are doing.
Speaker 3: It's a really good question. I personally didn't detect that
Speaker 3: at all, like I thought Pete and the you know,
Speaker 3: the bigger profiles were you know, just as open and
Speaker 3: vulnerable and honest as the rest of us. Like I
Speaker 3: really can't speak enough about how close we all got
Speaker 3: through this experience, and like I had dinner with Pete
Speaker 3: last night because obviously he's he's still here, and you know,
Speaker 3: it's just so special that I can say that he's
Speaker 3: a friend now because you know, as a teenager, you know,
Speaker 3: when he was on Row Live, I've just like.
Speaker 4: Idolized the guy.
Speaker 3: And now I'm still sort of pinching myself that, you know,
Speaker 3: I've had this experience with him, and yeah, we we're
Speaker 3: genuinely mates. We live pretty close together, so you know,
Speaker 3: I look forward to, you know, continuing with these amazing
Speaker 3: relationships that I've made in the jungle. But yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I don't think it was any level of the high
Speaker 3: profile people holding back at all. I actually think, I mean,
Speaker 3: the vote to save is a really interesting one, right,
Speaker 3: because maybe there was a level of people thinking that
Speaker 3: the high profile people were safer, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that about myself, by the way, I'm
Speaker 3: not trying to make excuses.
Speaker 1: Come on, that's not what we want to hear, we
Speaker 1: want to hear excuses, come on, just grab on to anything.
Speaker 3: But I get ie more referring to you know, Pete,
Speaker 3: maybe the Honey Badger who had a huge profile, even
Speaker 3: Dick O Dom. I mean these people have or Dick
Speaker 3: I doesn't have socials, but Dom's I think, got half
Speaker 3: a million Instagram followers, and there might be a level
Speaker 3: of people, yeah, like you know, I came into this
Speaker 3: competition with twelve thousand Instagram followers and I genuinely don't
Speaker 3: know how I managed to survive until the final six.
Speaker 3: But I do think there may have been a level
Speaker 3: of people going, oh, they'll be fine.
Speaker 4: I don't need to vote to save them. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean who now, but no one knew who Nathan was.
Speaker 1: Like in Australia, he's got like yeah, says, I don't
Speaker 1: know what the number is, so I'm going to say
Speaker 1: he's got a million and two a billion people following
Speaker 1: him on Instagram. But here in Australia you should have
Speaker 1: seen on social media people were like who is that guy? However,
Speaker 1: if you talk about him now to people that are
Speaker 1: watching that show, they're obsessed with.
Speaker 2: Him, like yeah, this show, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm not a celebrity at the moment, but I'm now
Speaker 1: on the show, and now I'm a celebrity.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a trickier name and it probably won't
Speaker 2: catch on that you look at Nathan. He's still in there.
Speaker 1: If you would have asked me the first week, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have put on sports bet. I wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: betting for him at all. I would have been going, oh, well,
Speaker 1: he's the first boot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very true. And I actually don't want to
Speaker 3: take anything away from just how amazing Nathan has been
Speaker 3: in there, because he's so entertaining, he's so funny, but
Speaker 3: he's also got this beautiful.
Speaker 4: Warmth term as well.
Speaker 3: Which it's actually been a beautiful journey with Nathan because
Speaker 3: initially it was very loud and he was telling very
Speaker 3: funny stories and he was the entertainer. But as the
Speaker 3: time went on, he really came into his own and
Speaker 3: felt comfortable being exactly who he is.
Speaker 4: And I'm really happy that from this experience.
Speaker 3: And I had conversations with him about it's only a
Speaker 3: couple of days ago when I was still in camp,
Speaker 3: and he was saying that it's nice that I feel
Speaker 3: like I can be myself and that's enough, and you know,
Speaker 3: people enjoy seeing that. I consider myself very, very lucky
Speaker 3: that whenever I'm in the UK, I've got someone to
Speaker 3: call and you.
Speaker 1: Know, hang out with you only want you want someone
Speaker 1: to sleep. That's great, and be in love with him
Speaker 1: as well. I definitely saved his house. Probably we did
Speaker 1: a little bit more, but that's a different podcast. But
Speaker 1: I'm so interested about these headlines today. Everyone that comes
Speaker 1: out gets a headline attach them. And you're on Kyle
Speaker 1: and Jacko this morning, and they talked about salaries. Everyone's
Speaker 1: talking about how much money is in your bank account,
Speaker 1: which is very rude. You'd never ask anyone in any
Speaker 1: other industry how much they're being paid. However, in this industry,
Speaker 1: apparently it's totally fine. Have you googled how much everyone's
Speaker 1: guests that you've been paid?
Speaker 4: No? No, I actually haven't.
Speaker 3: What are we talking here.
Speaker 1: I've read a few different articles, and I know that
Speaker 1: these publications, you know, just do a guestimate and then
Speaker 1: maybe one contest a few years ago that might be
Speaker 1: of the same caliber, you know, got paid this much
Speaker 1: and that was leaked, so they try and sort of
Speaker 1: attribute it that way, but I thought it was it
Speaker 1: was quite wrong. I think I read thirty five thousand,
Speaker 1: which I don't want you to tell I don't want
Speaker 1: you to tell me how much you got paid. But
Speaker 1: what do you think about all of this nonsense of
Speaker 1: us wanting to know how much you get paid and
Speaker 1: you know, whether any of it's even slightly correct.
Speaker 3: It doesn't really bother me to be honest, Like, you know,
Speaker 3: it's a natural thing for people to want to speculate about,
Speaker 3: and yeah, it's not something that I want to share
Speaker 3: or I feel like I need to share, but like
Speaker 3: to be honest, the speculation is totally fine. Although there
Speaker 3: are times where people have you know, I've done interviews
Speaker 3: where people have yes, you know, the ballpark of where
Speaker 3: they think I was paid, And more often than not,
Speaker 3: in those moments, I realized that maybe I understood myself
Speaker 3: a little bit experience, and I was like, wow, you
Speaker 3: think I should have been paid that much? Do you
Speaker 3: have a conversation with the manager.
Speaker 2: No, I think.
Speaker 1: That's more of a sign of the interviewer and how
Speaker 1: little they know about the end. I think if the
Speaker 1: person gets it right, they pretty much I mean, they're
Speaker 1: the ones that understand it right. They're the ones that
Speaker 1: probably know what they're talking about.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I am absolutely obsessed with you and have been for
Speaker 1: a very long time. I think you're an extremely funny person.
Speaker 1: You gave us so much in the job, including spidos,
Speaker 1: and I just can't wait to see what you do next.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to hearing you back at home here
Speaker 1: in Australia so I can hear the radio show in
Speaker 1: its proper format again. Forget Her and Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: want to say congratulations.
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much, Ben, Thank you so much
Speaker 3: for the chat.