1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Three sixty with Katie Wolf. Join the conversation with Katie Wolf. 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: You are our eyes and ears in the Territory Mix 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: one oh four point nine. 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: Matt Hepworth filling in for Katie Wolf this morning. If 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 2: you want to give us a call, you can eight 6 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: nine one o four nine, or you can text four 7 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: one eight nine five seven three six nine. Well, at 8 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: this time on a Wednesday morning, we usually have the 9 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: Opposition Leader Leah finochi Arero. She's off to Canberra, so 10 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: in her place this morning we have the Deputy Opposition Leader, 11 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 2: Jared Mailee Jered. 12 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: Good morning, Good morning mate, Good morning listeners. Jared. 13 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: Before we get into the issue surrounding Alice Springs, Leah, 14 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: what's she doing in Canberra this week? 15 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: She's down there meeting with some federal ministers. 16 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: I think she's got fifteen ministers to meet, just strengthening 17 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 3: the right ship we've got with the federal government. And 18 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 3: also I think today she met with Ken White and 19 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 3: talked about the current affair interview and the story in 20 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 3: the on the TV about that. 21 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 2: Have you heard anything of what the reaction has been 22 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: like from Canberra following the airing of that report on Monday. 23 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,319 Speaker 3: I haven't anything personally, but I understand that Leah met 24 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: with Ken White today and she wouldn't know about that 25 00:00:58,640 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: when she gets back to your bag of some more 26 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 3: information about that. Yeah, well certainly I can imagine it 27 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 3: would be pretty pretty damning because it was a very 28 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 3: daming report and I was shocked. 29 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: I had goosebump and I was watching how about it 30 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: really was? 31 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess for us in Darwin and for 32 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,919 Speaker 2: those in our springs, you know that was no secret. 33 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: I mean, this is something we've been we've been talking 34 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: about for a long time. Tell us a bit more 35 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: about your reaction, you know while watching that report. 36 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 3: Oh well, I was watching on the TV and it 37 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 3: was I just couldn't believe how the violence and just 38 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 3: no respect for the law. 39 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: These the people were running riot. 40 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 3: There was shovels involved, there was sticks, and it was 41 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 3: just it was like chaos. 42 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: It was a mayhem down there. 43 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 3: And our three members down in our springs have been 44 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 3: talking to us repeated about that, and we've raised it 45 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 3: in Parliament on many occasions, and in fact, last time 46 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 3: we had a matter of public important about it. The 47 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 3: Country Party spoke about it and only one labor person 48 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 3: spoke about it, So I find it hard to believe 49 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: that they can't pick up on the amount of crime 50 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: that's in the right across the terity, not just our Springs, 51 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: Tenant Creek, Catherine, in the rural area of Parmesan in 52 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: the northern suburbs. It's spread right across the territory, and 53 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: labor just do not want to talk about it. They 54 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 3: seem put the head in the sand and it's hoping 55 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: it's going away. But what I can say is not 56 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 3: going to go away. Something needs to change. 57 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: There was some suggestions or comments that the report was 58 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: unbalanced and biased in the way that it shone a 59 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: light on Alice Springs. 60 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 4: Do you think that's the case. 61 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 3: Well, I think what it did is there was a 62 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 3: TV crew out at nighttime reporting what happened, and that's 63 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: what happened. You can't say that those those fights were 64 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 3: set up or that's what happened. They were in the 65 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: street and I've been Alice Springs many times, and I'm 66 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: sure lots of your listeners have as well. It's not 67 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 3: a big town and it doesn't take long to walk around, 68 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 3: and that's what they saw. So it's really it was 69 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: really shocking to see the level of violence and the 70 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: amount of police and they're just constant, constant police going, 71 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: coming and going, and there's just more and more kids 72 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: on the streets. 73 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 4: What kind of effect do you think this is going 74 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 4: to have on the town. 75 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: Well, I hope it doesn't have effect at all because 76 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 3: we know COVID's hit and it's going to be a 77 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 3: drive and we know that Alice Springs is the center 78 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: of Australia. He's got airs, rock, there's got lots and 79 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 3: lots of things in our springs and we want this 80 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 3: tourism with the market to come to Darwen and to 81 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 3: all the territory and all across it. But people got 82 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: to come up from down south drive through our springs. 83 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 3: What we don't want is just stopping getting fuel and 84 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: keeping going. We want people to spend the money in 85 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 3: the territory, in the north and the south, right across 86 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 3: the territory. So it could have a really dramatic effect. 87 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: I understand there's like a million odd views of that 88 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 3: current affair program, so it's gone right across the Australia 89 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 3: and it needs to be dealt with. 90 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 4: Following the airing of that report. 91 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 2: I believe the COLP will be introducing tougher bail laws 92 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: in Parliament next week. 93 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 4: What will that look like. 94 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: Because remember in twenty nineteen, the Youth Justice and the 95 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 3: bailac was very to give the use of presumption for bail. 96 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 3: What we're going to do is we're going to change 97 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: that and we're going to reverse that presumption so there 98 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 3: is no presumption because at the moment if you get arrested, 99 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: there's three different levels. There's presumption for bail, neutral and 100 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 3: presumption against bail. Everyone that basically starts with a presumption 101 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 3: for bail unless the prescribed defense, and then it goes 102 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 3: into the neutral and then it goes into presumption against bail. 103 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 3: And what we're going to do is make it so 104 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 3: that these use there will be a psumption against bail 105 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: so they don't automatically go out onto the street. 106 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: One of the other things that report highlighted that was 107 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: part of those changes was only being able to detain 108 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: youth for a maximum of four hours before charges are laid. 109 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: Will you be looking at reversing that as well, or 110 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 2: is it just around the bail laws. 111 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 3: We're just talking about the resumption of bail because remember, 112 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: if someone gets arrested, the police are got to do 113 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 3: their job to make sure they're resting the right person. 114 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 3: But once they're charged and they're going to either get 115 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 3: a police bail or court bail, that's where that presumption 116 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: needs to kick in. 117 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: Currently, the COORP obviously don't have the numbers on the 118 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 2: floor to pass the bill. Do you hope you can 119 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: get the Independence to vote with you on this? And 120 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 2: I mean it's probably highly unlikely, But do you think 121 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 2: there's a few Labor members that might vote on conscience 122 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: rather than party lines. 123 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 3: Well, I don't think they can vote on conscience. I 124 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: think they get into a lot of trouble if they 125 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: don't vote on party lines. But if the Labor Party 126 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 3: don't vote for this, they're really putting the red flag 127 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 3: up saying do or you want criminals? It's fine, we 128 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 3: don't care. We're not going to change anything. We've done enough. 129 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 3: But people out there in the community are crying out 130 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: for help. There's right across the socials to see the 131 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: reports about crime, people breaking in violence right across the 132 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: alcohol fueled violence and just people breaking into people's houses. 133 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 3: That needs to stop, and we need to make sure 134 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 3: that people out there there are consequences for that and 135 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 3: if you do a crime, the only to be a 136 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 3: presumption against bail. 137 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: Obviously, reversing such a law would go against the recommendations 138 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: from the Royal Commission into Youth Detention. We've had this 139 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: conversation before that it's obviously a tough balance between striking 140 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: those recommendations and ticking those off. But then we're in 141 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: a situation where we are Now. Are you worried about 142 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 2: reversing recommendations from a Royal Commission? 143 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: Well, I am worried, but ultimately, the Northern Territory have 144 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: got a lot of people. 145 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 3: We need to protect the whole territory and at the 146 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 3: moment there's crimes right across the territory and people need 147 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 3: to know that if you commit a crime, there's going 148 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: to be a consequence, and the first consequence is you 149 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 3: don't get released straight on bail. You need to spend 150 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 3: some time in remand or in because you need to 151 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 3: have some consequences for your actions. And at the moment, 152 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 3: it seems that these youths break in, get arrested, get out, 153 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 3: break in, get arrested, get out, breaking get arrested. That's 154 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 3: the cycle that needs to stop. So we need to 155 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 3: think of the broader community, not just the criminal here. 156 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 3: When you talk about the victims, the victims need to 157 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 3: come first. 158 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: Jared Closer to Home. Yesterday we heard news that police 159 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: have defended their handling of an alleged sexual assault of 160 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: a child in Darwin's northern suburbs. The incident happened on Thursday, 161 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 2: however details were only released on Monday. Are you concerned 162 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: about the delay in media receiving this information. 163 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: Yes, I am concerned. 164 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 3: This is a serious offense and people in the community 165 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 3: deserve to know what's going on. The police do a 166 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 3: great job and I understand. Are they attended and arrested 167 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 3: the alleged offended very quickly. By what needs to happen. 168 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 3: It needs to make sure that the police media department 169 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: get that information out so people know what's going on. 170 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 2: Another rather horrific report we've heard this morning, reports of 171 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: a team assaulted in a home invasion in Legena overnight. 172 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: Are you worried we're hearing more of these stories in Darwin, 173 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: and not just Alice Springs now here. 174 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: It right across and I'm very concerned. 175 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 3: Can you imagine how that poor forty year old feels 176 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 3: she's at home or I think it's a female. I'm 177 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 3: not even sure who was a female at home someone 178 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 3: breaks into her house and then they assault her. You know, 179 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: your home should be your car, so you should be 180 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 3: where you should feel safe. But unfortunately, right across the territory, 181 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 3: the suburbs Palmerston, in the rural area, Catherine, TenneT Creek 182 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: and out of Springs, people aren't feeling safe from in 183 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 3: their own homes. And that's where the problem is. That 184 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 3: needs to change. You need to be able to come 185 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 3: home from work and go my house. It's going to 186 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 3: be safe. It's going to be how I left it. 187 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: Or more importantly, you go to bed at nighttime and 188 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 3: you wake up in the morning and it's the same. 189 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: It's not somebody coming in breaking your house and then 190 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 3: physically assaulting you in your own home. 191 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: That's just disgusting. 192 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:38,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's an awful incident. 193 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: We'll have more on that in local news at around 194 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: nine point thirty this morning, Jerreed, just before you go 195 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: on a much lighter note, today marks the three year 196 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: anniversary of cyclone Markers. We're asking territorians of their memories 197 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: of it this morning. Where were you and what were 198 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 2: you doing when Marcus. 199 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: Hit well, I was at home and how it springs. 200 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 3: And I live right next auto my mum, who was 201 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 3: a birthday yes, Toad, and I promise I wouldn't say that. 202 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 3: She's eighty three, so I'm not going to tell anyone that. 203 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 3: But she was her birthday and she was at my 204 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: house because we bring her over when there's a big cyclone. 205 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 3: It was actually it was a very gut reaching because 206 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 3: we're here in cyclone Tracy and my mum lived in 207 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 3: the same house that she was living in Cyclone Tracy. 208 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,679 Speaker 1: Which got destroyed it was rebuilt, and the Cyclone Marcus. 209 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 3: We had toiled mahoganies which were all around the house, 210 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: which grew right over the house. You physically couldn't see 211 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: the roof from the trees, and they fell over and 212 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: my mom was obviously and right beside at the time, 213 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 3: was watching that from our verando when the tree fell 214 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 3: over onto her house, and she was very devastated. 215 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 2: She your mom must be one of the few Territorians 216 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: that went through both Cyclone Tracy and then Marcus as well. 217 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: And her home got destroyed on both occasions. 218 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a wild time. I think I've been 219 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 2: back in down in about four weeks. Obviously, twenty six 220 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: thousand homes without power. That damage bill less mattered to 221 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: be over one hundred million dollars. But I think one 222 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: of the only positives to come from it was thankfully 223 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 2: no reports of major injuries or deaths. 224 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: Oh, we're very lucky about that. 225 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 3: I've got horses as well, and I had a big 226 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 3: mahogany rock beside my horse stable and that blew over 227 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 3: and flattened my horse stable. So the horses they all 228 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 3: ran out in the paddicck And I remember back of 229 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: cyclone Tracy, we had horses in as well. 230 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: They did the same thing. 231 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 3: They went stood in the middle of the paddock and 232 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 3: just put their their bums to the wind and just 233 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: stood there with the heads basically on the ground. And 234 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 3: they did the same thing a cyclone Markers even though 235 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 3: their stable got flattened, they were out in the paddock 236 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 3: and they just waited for the wind to go down. 237 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: So our house was pretty well devastated and by cyclones. 238 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jared, we could talk about this for hours, but 239 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: we better wrap up a wide range of topics there 240 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: this morning. 241 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 4: Opposition leader Jared mainly, thank you so much for. 242 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 2: Coming in this morning. Deputy Opposition leader Deputy Opposition lader. 243 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: I haven't given the promotion just yet. No, I'll leave 244 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 2: that one alone.