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Speaker 1: Richard O'Sullivan elected as the chairperson, Jody Waters as the

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Speaker 1: The move I think is a good one in terms

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Speaker 1: Now joining me on the show is the opposition leader,

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Speaker 1: Leah Fanocchiaro. Good morning to you, Leah.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Katie and your listeners live from

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Speaker 1: Oh good stuff, and we'll get to that in just

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Speaker 1: changing legislation. I don't think to force well, those former

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Speaker 2: Layer, Well, we've always back to the sixteen hundred community

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Speaker 2: I think collectively those sixteen hundred organizations and there are

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Speaker 1: Leah, I know that you were incredibly unhappy yesterday after

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Speaker 1: hundred questions to the government over this grandstand debarcle. When

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Speaker 3: From what I can gather. Were any of your questions answered?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not, Katie. It was discussing what happened. In response,

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Speaker 2: We of course have been trying to ask questions in

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Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago in parliament they were completely undemocratic.

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Speaker 2: And then of course we asked two hundred written questions

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Speaker 2: of it was garbage, None of it addressed the issues,

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Speaker 2: I think it's a damning indictment on their contempt for

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Speaker 1: Leah, we're too from here with this grandstand debarcle. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the government's made it pretty clear that they feel they've

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Speaker 3: Is it time for us all to just move on?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not. This is twelve million dollars of tax payers money.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't pass the pub test. People are really angry

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Speaker 3: All right, Lea, I do want to talk about the

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Speaker 1: We know that both the Labor Party and also the

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Speaker 1: COLP of now announced candidates for the by election to

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Speaker 3: Sivitory excellent? Is the COLP candidate Leah. Where does he

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Speaker 2: Chris has spent the last twelve months living between Tenant

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess it's easy enough to say that, but

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Speaker 2: Well, Look, the ALP candidate is a fifth law staffer

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Speaker 1: That may well be the case, but I guess it's

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Speaker 2: He lives across both Darwin and the territory and Tenant

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Speaker 2: to make in this by election, Katie. They can vote

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Speaker 2: want is to see Michael Gunner with any more power

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Speaker 2: the abuse.

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Speaker 1: Leah, did you not have anyone that actually lived in

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Speaker 2: Look, these are all matters for the party. Of course,

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Speaker 2: The party then get together. They have a selection panel.

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Speaker 2: People can come make their case of why they're the

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Speaker 2: all right.

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Speaker 1: I do want to ask about fireworks. We know one

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Speaker 3: I mean, what do you make of all of this?

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Speaker 1: Do you think that realistically we should we should maybe

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Speaker 2: This has been terribly mishandled by Michael Gunner. Once again.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Territory Day we were in lockdown. Everyone can

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Speaker 2: Everyone was ready to go. People had their plans made,

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Speaker 2: interesting to see what happens. I certainly hope that if

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very fascinated to see exactly where it all lands.

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Speaker 3: At the end of the day.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to see anybody with their property on fire.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, enormous. I mean, people have obviously the retailers

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Speaker 2: You know, it is a business opportunity for them. It's

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Speaker 2: day and krack andighted. It's a wonderful thing that a

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Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, what we've got

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Speaker 2: who've invested a lot of time and a lot of

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Speaker 2: let everyone down on this one. Katie and I just

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Speaker 1: Lea fanocchi Ao. As always, thank you for your time

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Speaker 1: this morning. We'll talk to you again soon.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Take care everyone.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: That is Lea Fanocchiaro. They're the opposition leader.