1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Well and what do you podcast? Many, Hey, it's willing, 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: what do you all? Thanks to Australia post this up there, 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: and I hope you have being a great drive home? 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: Sure my move. 5 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: Sharing how you're going is one of the best things 6 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: you can do for your mental health. 7 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 3: But when you most need to tell someone how you're going, 8 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 3: it's often the hardest thing to do. 9 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: And if you don't address how you are, your feelings 10 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: confessed and lead to things like anxiety, depression, even suicide. 11 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 3: In this podcast, we ask a range of inspiring people 12 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 3: how they express themselves in the hope that we can 13 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 3: all learn something more about arguably life's most important. 14 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: Skill, to ask yourself, how am I feeling? How do 15 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: I express how I'm feeling? How do I share my mood? 16 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: Previously we've chatted with people like health and well being 17 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: experts def Claire Smith. 18 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 4: So I feel incredibly sick, but also mentally I was 19 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 4: just a mess every night because. 20 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: I just felt like I was continuously disappointing myself. 21 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: Legendary Australian comedian Will Anderson. It's a nice thing to say, 22 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 3: because I'm not sure that I've actually said it out loud. 23 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: Recently, and that feels honestly about right now and author 24 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: and Mega Marathon runner Ned Brockman. 25 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 4: When you start letting these words of burnout, I think 26 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 4: it comes back to the power of the mind and 27 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 4: if you can continuously say these things and be positive. 28 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 4: Our time here on this planet is very limited, and 29 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 4: you're a long time dead. I want to make the 30 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 4: most of the time I'm here. 31 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 5: Our latest guest on the Share My Mood podcast is 32 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 5: Poe ling Yao. If you want to hear the entire chat, 33 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 5: then just look up share my Mood wherever you get 34 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 5: your podcasts from. But I think, well, the most surprising 35 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 5: thing from this chat with Poe was the talk about 36 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 5: relationships and about how her ex husband actually ended up 37 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 5: with her best friend. 38 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: Can I ask you about relationships? You comfortable talking about 39 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 3: year past relationship? So you've had two divorces, yes, And 40 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 3: I've heard you talk about the fact that within these 41 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: relationships you were and please tell me if I'm using 42 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 3: I'm using words wrong, but losing this sense of individuality, yeah. 43 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 2: Losing myself? What the first one? Who I'm He's still 44 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: my right or die Matt like we like and we 45 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: still have like the hugest domestics in front of his partner, 46 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: who's my best friend. That's not part of the whole. 47 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: Awesome good story. 48 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: Sorry sorry sorry. He So your first first ex husband, yes, 49 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 3: is now with your best friend yes? 50 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? 51 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 3: Wow, and then you're all still good, amazing, so amazing. 52 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: So he that's great. Yeah. I think that's personally. I 53 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: think that's a mark of a really mature person is 54 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: when I meet them and then they're like, oh, you know, 55 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: you find out that a person you've been hanging out 56 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: with is their ex. But it's like, we're just so 57 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: much bigger than what was. 58 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Because I think if you fully I believe that 59 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: if you haven't been able to metabolize, like whatever was 60 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: causing you the grief, it's still always there. Yeah, and 61 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: it's so and it's like, I think it's unresolved love. 62 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: So you have to actually work through it and transform 63 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 2: it into something else for it to be healthy, so 64 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,399 Speaker 2: you can both move on. Because I think when people 65 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: are still triggered by their partners, I think there's something 66 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 2: about them that still has a hold over them, and 67 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 2: you want to be rid of that, you know, so 68 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 2: that you're an empty vessel to be like go on 69 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: to your new relationship. 70 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: With I feel like I got some really good advice 71 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: around that once, which was that, like, the fastest way 72 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: to kind of get over someone is to realize that 73 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: you'll always love them. Oh that's beautiful, rather than thinking 74 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: that like, oh, I'm going to get over it, because 75 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: the English we always say when you get over them, 76 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: to get over them, And it's like, well, no, you 77 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: kind of got to go through yes them rather than 78 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: over them, because yeah, yeah, you're always going to love them. 79 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: It might just feel differently. 80 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you. 81 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 3: Were talking so so the quote that I saw sorry 82 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 3: was about this idea of you having individuality. 83 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 4: Yes. 84 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: So I think that, like for the first relationship, that's 85 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: when I identified that it was getting really unhealthy because 86 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 2: I was getting so lost in the dysfunction that I 87 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 2: didn't recognize myself anymore and I was just reacting all 88 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: the time. I was just so easily we could just 89 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: push each other's buttons and just you could have an 90 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 2: argument about this that that like it was just insane. 91 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: And that's when I'm like, I'm getting lost in this 92 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: like bitterness and I need to find myself again. And 93 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 2: so when we finally broke up, it was I was like, 94 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 2: wait a minute, this is so cool because we now 95 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: get to like keep all the things that we still 96 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: love about each other because we loved each other's company, 97 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 2: like we were great friends, but as a marriage it 98 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: just didn't work. So we got to just throw all 99 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 2: the bad things in the bin and keep all the 100 00:04:59,040 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: good things. 101 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 5: Great. 102 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: God, this podcast come up twice now on this show, 103 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: but it's a good podcast. On diariav CEO, I was 104 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: listening to Esther Perell talk and she's so good, so good, 105 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: And she was saying that she obviously if you don't 106 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: know who she is, she's psychotherapist. She works in relationships. 107 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: She was saying she always finds it really funny when 108 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: people walk in. She sees a couple and they walk 109 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: in and like, one of the first things I'll say 110 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: is that they're adamant that they're individuals. And she's like, well, 111 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: you're not, because you've chosen to be with someone. And 112 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: as soon as you choose to be with someone, who 113 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: you are is defined entirely by the pattern that you've 114 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: agreed to be in with that person. And she was like, 115 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,119 Speaker 1: if you think of it like a figure eight loop, 116 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: you both feed the loop and then people break up 117 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: when the loop's broken. So like when one of you goes, okay, 118 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: I don't like the way that this keeps coming back 119 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: to me, and it's exactly what you said you were like, 120 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: just everything just get coming back in the same way. 121 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: So to realize that, I think it's enormous. 122 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 5: If you want to get the whole thing, just look 123 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 5: up Share my Mood, wherever you get your podcasts from. 124 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 5: We are going to play you a tiny bit more 125 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 5: right up next, though, where she tells us that she 126 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 5: still calls her ex husband to unpack their relationship. It's 127 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 5: phenomenal and you won't believe the things that she decides 128 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 5: to unpack still with her ex husband. 129 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 3: We'll play it for you right up next. 130 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: I William Woody hear more of the boys on the 131 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: full podcast. Just scroll up.