1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Lost shops at least all this week we have been 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: looking back at the famous shops of Perth, lost to time. 3 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: In today's example, lost resign Yeah, lost to redevelopment. Today 4 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: we will remember the lost shop that was Wellington Surplus. 5 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: Lots and lots of people went there for their traveling 6 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: and outdoor needs. 7 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 3: Maybe a Swiss army knife, yes, a pocket knife that 8 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:35,959 Speaker 3: did everything. 9 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: Everything, everything, everything, everything, horror boots. 10 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 3: So although part of it remains a student accommodation. 11 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: Now well, yes, because they redeveloped it and so it 12 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: looks very different to what it did up until what 13 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 2: was it September twenty seven. 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 3: Yes, we speak of three hundred and nineteen to three 15 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: thirty five Wellington Street, Perth, the Wellington Surplus Store and 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 3: historic Army surplus outdoor gear retailer, as you said, permanently 17 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 3: close down in twenty seventeen. The site has since been redeveloped. 18 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 3: Originally known as Wellington Dealers, the business was established before 19 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 3: World War II, operating as a secondhand clothing store from 20 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 3: nineteen thirty nine and after the war, it became well 21 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 3: known for selling part worn and new army clothing and 22 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 3: a wide array of military surplus. 23 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 2: Goods because thankfully there was no use for it anymore. 24 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: Thankfully war was over. 25 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 3: The wand was over. 26 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: Make some money out of it. 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 3: I remember getting a fabulous Army beret there, and what 28 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: was so sort of intriguing about it all was someone's 29 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: name was written inside it, so it was a it 30 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 3: was a worn one. 31 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 2: Wow. 32 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, not new. 33 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 2: I got new stuff there. I went there because before 34 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: I went traveling, probably nearly twenty five years ago, I 35 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: bought your backpack. I bought my well I did. I 36 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: got a backpack. It's a lot compass. No, I didn't 37 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: get your head land a compass. I needed a good 38 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: pair of boots and I need a good backpack, and 39 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: I got both from Wellington surplus. Yea, the boots. I 40 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: think I still have the backpack. I still have it 41 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: survived the Amazon, Antarctica, Carnival and Rio. 42 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: Wow. 43 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: But it's only just hanging on with my kids using it. Yeah, 44 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: but it's still going. 45 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 3: You could have got your Excalibur tracker pocket knife there, 46 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 3: or your replica weapon swords and handcuffs, billies Billy's. 47 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:29,399 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 48 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 3: Outdoor, all the outdoor stuff, all the camping equipment, and 49 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 3: of course a lot of people got their dock Martins 50 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 3: there and work boots. 51 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: You had a dock Martins, Oh. 52 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, I did. 53 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 3: Indeed didn't come from Wellington Surplus, but I did have 54 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 3: doc mounds. One section of it was once an infamous 55 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 3: nineteenth century brothel. In eighteen ninety nine, it was owned 56 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 3: by prominent property speculator Hamlet Wheeler. In early eighteen ninety nine, 57 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 3: news broke that he was running a brothel there with 58 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 3: quote unquote French girls like one of your French girls. Yes, 59 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: it made national headlines. The article read, here was a 60 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: man who controlled a good deal of property, deliberately seeking 61 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: for disreputable tenants, decrying the greed and avarice of such manners. 62 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 3: The defendant who allowed the consideration of money to outweigh 63 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 3: that of decency and proprietary and propriety, and thus enabled 64 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 3: the unfortunate women to hoard in the respectable portion of 65 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 3: the city. The unfortunate women. 66 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 2: They wrote news stories differently back then, didn't they. 67 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 3: They did. 68 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: Imagine you reading that story like that. 69 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 3: So what are your memories of Wellington Surplus? 70 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: What did you get there? Yeah? Was it the only 71 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: place in town where you could get what you needed 72 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: for what you needed to do? What did you need 73 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: to do? Well? 74 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 3: Exactly right. We've had a text from Paul in journal 75 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 3: up who said it was the Flannelette shirt Headquarter of 76 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: WA and he has sent photos. He's got entire clothing 77 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 3: racks of just flannels. Have you ever been every color? 78 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of a spring clean? Paul? You 79 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: know you don't have to keep every flannel shirt. I'm 80 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: sure there's a couple of collectibles in there, but not 81 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: all of them. 82 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 3: The couple are really really nice. 83 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 2: One yeah. 84 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 3: On the text, Len said he used to get my 85 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 3: DB's at Yes, lots of people did. Julie and Ese Perth, 86 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: our friend. Julie says the nineteen seventies vogue for army 87 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 3: shorts kept by Wellington kept Wellington surplus busy. We are 88 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 3: ourselves that will with a laundry marker and get our 89 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 3: favorite bands to sign our shorts while we were wearing. 90 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: Have you still got a pair with Sherbet written on them? 91 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 3: As almost like the old you know Ripper seventy five 92 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 3: rob cover written up there? 93 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 2: You got them all signed on the shorts, did you? 94 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: Or was it a bit like the Ripper covert on 95 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 2: the buttock of a and if you're not aware of 96 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 2: Ripper nineteen seventy six, just google was you could buy 97 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: it over the counter and a record stong. 98 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: Craig in water Roo, good morning, Oh. 99 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 5: I remember the album? 100 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 2: Well well, if not just for the cover you just 101 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: couldn't stop staring at. What other than that? What are 102 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: your memories of surplus, Craig. 103 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 5: I was in the Army Cadets in high school. Bought 104 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 5: my first Army backpack from there and a pair of 105 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 5: GPS general purpose boots. Yeah, but we used to get 106 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 5: the DBS and the Flano there as well. 107 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 108 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: It was for army time and recreation time as well. 109 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: You could get it all there. 110 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 111 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 5: It was actually very It was a place to go. 112 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 3: It was cool to get those Army backpacks to use 113 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 3: as your school bag. 114 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 2: Yes, well they were very common in the. 115 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 3: Eighties, very very common. 116 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: Also using market pens to get things written all over them. 117 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 2: And of course Cadets was a big thing back then at school, 118 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: wasn't it, Craig. It was plenty of people, weren't me 119 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 2: And all. 120 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 5: The boys were in there and a few of the 121 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 5: ladies and would go out to Northerm and do some camp. Yeah, 122 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 5: and stuff like that. Fun shoots and guns. 123 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: Yep, that's that's after. That's after you've been to Wellington Surplus. 124 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: Maybe is the cadet numbers at school dropped off. Maybe 125 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: that's part of the reason why Wellington Surplus. 126 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 5: Block next to it was. 127 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 2: Yes, well the facade is still there actually, yeah, I 128 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: just haven't done anything with it now. Yeah it is. 129 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 3: Thanks Craig, Craig, thanks. 130 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 2: Made you team mate. We've had a lot of texts 131 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: come in and also on the Facebook page. 132 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, Karen on the Facebook page remembers that Army surplus backpack. 133 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, the canvas one. 134 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: The canvas thing was a bit of a shoulder bag 135 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 3: as well, kind of anywhere. It was a canvas backpacked 136 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 3: that everyone in schools, everyone wanted as their school bags, 137 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: she said. I wrote in excess on the shoulder strap 138 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 3: to make it cool. We also wanted them at school. 139 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: I went to a Catholic girls school and the nuns 140 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 3: weren't impressed. Really, no, they weren't impressed with our canvas 141 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 3: backpacked with and probably some of you. Yes, well absolutely, 142 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 3: Martin says, I got my DB's and my school bag 143 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: from there. And on the text Peter and Palmilla says, 144 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 3: we've got our BB guns from I had many many 145 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 3: shooting walls back in the day. They stung when you 146 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: got shot. You also got his DB's from there. 147 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, once once again, just about nothing you couldn't buy 148 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: from there. 149 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 3: Clayton lower shitting Hello, Hey, how you going, guys? 150 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 5: Good? 151 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 3: That's your memories of Wellington surplus store. 152 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: What'd you get there? 153 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 6: Twenty eight years ago? And I've still got it. I've 154 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 6: got a olive green army jacket. Yeah, it's got on 155 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 6: the label on the inside is handwritten the guy's surname 156 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 6: and regimental Yeah. A stamp in there, like a date stamp, 157 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 6: maybe like a manufactured date that's back in the middle 158 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 6: of Vietnam. 159 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: Oh, it's a piece of history you've got there, Clayton. 160 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 161 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 6: And I have thought about like trying to find out 162 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 6: who it was, but I'm yeah, well, yeah, I think 163 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 6: it costs. It cost me about fifty bucks. 164 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: Even if you could just get in contact and let 165 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: them know it's safe. 166 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, but then they might put a guilt trip on the. 167 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: True risky move, risky move, Yeah, thank you. So one 168 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 2: of those big was it a long one of those 169 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: big long ones? 170 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 6: No, it's so short, probably like just maybe six inches 171 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 6: blow my waist or something like that. 172 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: Okay, those big long ones were popular with the London 173 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 3: cook cross. 174 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: I'm just going to say that was a little bit earlier. 175 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 2: And of course I guess if it was used in Vietnam. 176 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: You didn't want anything too warm, did you? 177 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 3: No? Probably no, that's right. 178 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: Been different guy. Hey, thanks Layton. Look, please make sure 179 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: you make sure you look after that, mates, piece of 180 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: piece of Australian history. You've got. 181 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 3: There lots of memories coming through on our text line. 182 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 3: One from this is remaining nameless. Apparently they have not 183 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 3: left their name, but they say I got my brother 184 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: a BB gun, I got some pepper spray and my 185 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 3: Doc Martin's. That's quite a shopping list, that is. 186 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: Oh by the way, pepper spray is apparently it is 187 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 2: as legal to carry in Wa. You're over eighteen? Were 188 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: you over eighteen? 189 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 3: Personal defense? 190 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, absolutely, as Shane. 191 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 3: And Doc Martin's the same. That's actually that is a 192 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 3: whole list of weapons. There be me down pepper spraying dots. 193 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 2: Including the footwear. Shane on our Facebook page said it 194 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: was his supermarket. Mum had hers, yes, and I had mine, 195 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: This is true, and it was Wellington Surplus stores. Pepper 196 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 2: send us a text on the text lines Wellington Surplus 197 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: for my brothers cubs uniform. Yeah, and I think for 198 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: a long time it was really the only place to 199 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: get camping get I mean, well. 200 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it proceeded camp and fishing. 201 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: There was before Mountain Design, a Man do Ana, Conda 202 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: and all those stores that are there now, they weren't 203 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 2: really around. There was the odd one around us, but 204 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: the big one was Wellington Surplus. 205 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 3: Absolutely. Dennis in Bayford, good morning. 206 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 6: Good morning. 207 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 3: What's your memory of it? 208 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 4: I bought my first Swiss Army knight. 209 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 2: Ah, yes, had everything everything. 210 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 4: It's a lot while the toothpick and the tweezers yep. 211 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 4: But yeah it's been around the world, well one time 212 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 4: and halfway around. 213 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 6: But yeah, yeah, I've still got it. 214 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 4: I've had to had to replace the toothpick and the 215 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 4: tweezers because the tooth pick broken. No facts. The Wellington 216 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 4: Surplus used to sell lehigh Yeah, we used to go 217 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 4: and get lee high jeans. Yeah, and the Levi jacket 218 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 4: with the collar ship and now but they've got the 219 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 4: lining in it. But we bought greatcoats and my two 220 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 4: brothers and I got them in nineteen seventy five. Yeah, 221 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 4: and I still remember throwing the buttons onto them and 222 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 4: my fingers gleaning because the buttons were so hard to 223 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 4: sew them. True, But yeah, they don't boughten year old 224 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 4: having to sew that on and using the symbol and that. 225 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 4: But I still got those greatcoats. 226 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 6: But they don't hit so well now. 227 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 3: For all of us, right, for the memories, Thanks Dennis, 228 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 3: have a great day, rape bye day boy on the 229 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 3: Texas got my Doc Martin's there. They didn't have flowers 230 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 3: and rainbows on them in those days. We were saying, 231 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 3: before they were there were two types of footwear wearing, 232 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 3: you know, shoe people that went to the surplus store. 233 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 3: There was the DB's and the dock Martyrs. 234 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: And they would not be seen at the same gig 235 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 2: together that's facial on the weekends or at separate ends 236 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 2: of the Hay Street more than about nineteen eighty four. 237 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: Otherwise there was going to be trouble. 238 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 3: Absolutely never the tine would mix