1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: It's the Will and Woody podcast. 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 2: A Disturbing Story. A disturbing Tale sounds like it was 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 2: like one of those stories from that Freaky Stories show 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: that used to be on for five minutes between like 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 2: four fifty five and five o'clock. 6 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 3: I remember it well. 7 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: Happened to a friend of a friend of mine. Terrifying 8 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 2: shown you're a man. 9 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 4: They had a really intimidating voice that show. 10 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm not sure if they pictured a man. 11 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 4: That's how they started the Twilight Zone picture of a man. 12 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 4: Do you know? 13 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 5: The only freaky story that I remember from that show 14 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 5: Freaky Stories from Freaky Stories, And I'll interesting to see 15 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 5: if you guys remember this one too, was the girl 16 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 5: who got picked up by the guy to go on 17 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 5: a date. He opens the door for us, she sits 18 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 5: in the car, He closes the door to then walk 19 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 5: around to the driver's seat, and in that time she's like, 20 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 5: oh God, I've really want to do a fart, So 21 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 5: she farts and just goes. 22 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 4: Like, oh, thank goodness. 23 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 5: Anyway, the guy opens the door and then goes, you're right, 24 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 5: Nan and Grandma sitting in the back seat. It's just 25 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 5: copped a very loud, loud and smelling fat. Do you 26 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 5: guys remember that one? 27 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: That was that was the whole story, So. 28 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 4: In the back of the car, like and then she 29 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 4: think she's got away with it. That was That was 30 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 4: the bit. 31 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: They were a short episode. 32 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 4: That was it. Yeah, that one stayed with me. 33 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 6: As we've discussed in this show many times, kids shows 34 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 6: and movies that they're all made by adults and none 35 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 6: of them put them through the filter of Willis Freak. 36 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 4: A small child. 37 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 6: It's amazing how much when you have kids that you 38 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 6: start watching things as an adult you're like, my god, 39 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 6: I can't let him watch this. 40 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 5: We were watching the other day a scene from Hook. 41 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 5: It's serious, like Captain Hook has a genuine like suicide attempt, 42 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 5: like and he's going to be helped trying to stop 43 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 5: kids movie. 44 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 4: Unbelievable. 45 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was. Actually, if you want to listen 46 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: to another I was listening to a podcast you. 47 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 4: Guys pushing other podcasts. 48 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: When I finished this podcast just will Yeah, there's a 49 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: podcast called Revisionist History by a guy called Malcolm Gladwell. 50 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: You see Malcolm very good, and he talks about the 51 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: contract that she signs in The Little Mermaid. How Ariel 52 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: signs the contract with Ursula, the Sea Witch, of course, 53 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: and the whole podcast is about what a bad message 54 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: that is to kids because she's a minor. She gets 55 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: duped into the contract by this like yeahs voice leading 56 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: sounds like a misleading, interceptive conduct, and she hands over 57 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: her voice in returns for and then her dad, who 58 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 2: like this is the king, rocks up and like hand 59 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 2: to get the contracts null and void, and Ursula holds 60 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: out the contract and remember he can't kill the contract 61 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: with his trident. He tries to shoot something magical the contract, 62 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: and the contract like stays solid. And the whole podcast 63 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: is about the fact that Disney was obsessed with They 64 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: had all these legal cases running out of the time 65 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: against all these small people trying to sue them. It 66 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: was like this message butere they were trying to say, 67 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: like if you sign a contract doesn't even matter if 68 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: you're a miner or you get duped into it. The law, 69 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: contract law rules her for everything. And what a bad 70 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 2: message that is to send to And it's actually a 71 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 2: quote from Ursula where she goes the contracts legally binding 72 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: and then she gets to turn her into a slave. 73 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 4: And that the slug things she slave freaked me. 74 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: So she gets to turn a young miner into a 75 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: slave because she signed a contract. But what message is 76 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: that sending to kids? Totally what I mean. On the 77 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: other hand, it's like, you know, make sure you read 78 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: the contract before you signed, having a. 79 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 6: Fancy house with the prince didn't have a voice, but 80 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 6: you know she lived happily. 81 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: I mean there's yeah, there's a there's a subplot there 82 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: about you know, how good looking princes are and how 83 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: beautiful that that beautiful shaggy dog. He's got, beautiful dog, 84 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: beautiful dog. 85 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 5: Would you sacrifice your voice to live in the palace 86 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 5: with a beautiful princess? 87 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: Then I wouldn't be able to work then of voice 88 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: of the princess. You don't have to work. 89 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 6: Sign me out. 90 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, you also have a wife, Joel, Prince Philip his 91 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 4: name different princes. 92 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: All three of us do like to talk. 93 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh ship, I didn't think of that. 94 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: Actually, you can't have a drunk chat ever. 95 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 4: Again, you could learn sign though, you can learn sign 96 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 4: h you could. 97 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 6: Sign get a robot that speaks for me on my 98 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 6: behalf reads my eyes. 99 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 4: Sure, that's against the contract. Kind of a robot speaking 100 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 4: for you. 101 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: You can't have a Stephen hooking screen. 102 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 4: That's clause fifty fifty four. 103 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 7: Yeah. 104 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, the contracts legally binding. It's terrifying if you want 105 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:23,239 Speaker 2: to that scene again. 106 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know why. Freaked me out as. 107 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: Well, the eels, the ears, she's so scary, you know, 108 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 2: she's based on so yeah, listen to this podcast on 109 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: the Little Mermaid on revision. It's history after this podcast, 110 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: but she's based on She's a future's a very famous 111 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 2: woman from the seventies, entertaining old woman that sounds like 112 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: Asler credit Garbo right. 113 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 4: Off in the seventies. Yes, no, Judy Garland June. 114 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 5: Anyway, Well that's your that's your area, though Joel is 115 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 5: in the seventies. 116 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: Why nineteen four actor jo Acrisses from the nineteen. 117 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 4: Forties, Joan Crawford was a Joan Crawford. 118 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: Could have been a husky voice, female entertainer, smoke too 119 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: many darts. 120 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 6: I can only think about like that. The woman from 121 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 6: Friends who was Joey's agent. 122 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 8: I was like, Joey, I've got a great Yeah, Joey 123 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 8: got to create you roll for you. 124 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna get out of here. 125 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 4: Guys, Why are we talking about that. 126 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 2: Ursula is based on that female entertainer really famous. 127 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 4: I don't know why are we talking about scary TV shows? 128 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 4: We were doing that in now show at all. 129 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: Oh, because there's a woman whose child thought she was 130 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: a dollar for a year and a half. 131 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 4: Here we go. Yeah, well, enjoy the podcast. 132 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 2: They've also signed a contract woods. Loads of people. Loads 133 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: of people at the moment are really really flustered about 134 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 2: the fact that they feel like eating scammed. I personally 135 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: get getting this call from the tax department who are 136 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: telling me that I owe them thousands of dollars and 137 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: I need to call them before they take me to court. 138 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 4: I get it from PayPal as well, you're getting from PayPal. 139 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 2: I'm not getting it from PayPal. Maybe AU owe PayPal 140 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: many seriously, but I think, well, potentially, I say click. 141 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 4: Here, because two thousand dollars has come out of you account. 142 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 4: I don't even have a PayPal account. 143 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well that sounds dodgy. But anyway, Look, everyone's 144 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 2: getting scammed the month. There's this theory going around that 145 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: it might have something to do with the QR codes 146 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 2: that people everyone's using, and maybe there's been some sort 147 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: of massive hack. I don't know. I definitely don't know. 148 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: I tell you who does know is this guy who's 149 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:21,559 Speaker 2: joining us right now, doctor Dave Lacey, who joins us 150 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 2: right now from Idcare. He is the managing director of 151 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: IDKRE Today, Dave, Welcome to the show. Hey guys, So, David, 152 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: can you just tell you is there any truth to 153 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 2: the fact that everyone's getting scammed at the moment. 154 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 3: There's a lot of scam calls going around the country 155 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 3: at the moment, that's for sure. Nothing that we're aware 156 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 3: of that has anything to do with QR codes, right. 157 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 2: Okay, So that's a bit of a tinfoil five gs 158 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:45,679 Speaker 2: COVID's kind of a setup. 159 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 4: Can we distill another myth, Dave? 160 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 5: There's a bit of a you know, an urban myth 161 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 5: going around that you only get bugs or scams when 162 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 5: you watch too much porn. 163 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 4: Are we distilling that one as well? 164 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 3: No, that certainly increases the chances that you're going to 165 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 3: get scammed. 166 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 4: Going to ride the dispelling wave there, clearly that's going 167 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 4: back to reach. 168 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 5: So what are the signs then, day, because you know, 169 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 5: you get contacted by you know, as Will said, the 170 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 5: tax office. I feel like I'm getting voicemails from PayPal 171 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 5: saying sorts of things. 172 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 4: What are the signs that it's a scam. 173 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 3: It's hard to tell, but usually they're demanding something from you, 174 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 3: whether they pick on a link if it's a text message, 175 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: or get you to provide remote access to your phone 176 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: or your computer. So scammers want you to be compliant, 177 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: they want you to do things. 178 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to give them something, because that's what happened. 179 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: I called the tax office now were like, we're never 180 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: going to ask you for details. You don't need to 181 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: do that. The other one I did, I got done 182 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 2: was the other one the other day, which was Australia Post. 183 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: They were pretending to be Australia Post. Have you heard 184 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 2: about that one? 185 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, particularly in lockdown, people are buying more and more 186 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 3: stuff online. Yeah, scammers are right onto that one. 187 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: And how does that work? Because that actually terrified me, 188 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 2: Like how are they getting better and better this? 189 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 3: Well, they play numbers, so we're aware that there's well 190 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 3: over six million scam phone calls coming into the country 191 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 3: a month. 192 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: Wow. 193 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 3: So this is organized crime on a mass scale, and 194 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 3: they play numbers. You might be part of a one 195 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: percent that's actually waiting for an Australia past degree. 196 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 5: Right, So it's just a scattergun approach. They're just calling 197 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 5: everyone and they hope just one lands totally. 198 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: If they got one percent of six million people and 199 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 3: they're earning twenty grand per hit, that's a lot of money. 200 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: Right, Wow, gee wiz, that's terrifying stuff. So organized crime 201 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: on a mass scale. Dave, final question here this flu 202 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: bot thing, can you talk to us about that? 203 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 9: Yeah? 204 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 3: Look, if you got an Android device, yeah, particularly vulnerable 205 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: to it. 206 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 4: This. 207 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 3: So it comes in the form typically of a text 208 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 3: message that says you're going to miss a call, Yeah, 209 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: click the link, and that literally clicking the link activates 210 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 3: the malware. And our testing of that at the moment 211 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 3: is there's a lot of antivirus providers that are not 212 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 3: picking it up right, and they're targeting bank loggins. So 213 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 3: once you have it on your phone, you can't get 214 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 3: rid of it unless you do a factory reset. 215 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 4: Bloody hell strowth. 216 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: Like I pressed that Australia postaling because it looked so legit. 217 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: It was like, just tell click this and then tell 218 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: us what your addresses and when you're going to be home. 219 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 4: You've got flu button? 220 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: Am I cooked? 221 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 3: Dave, you're an Android. 222 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: No, I'm on an iPhone. 223 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 3: You're okay? Yes? 224 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 2: Is this just a massive verdicton for Apple. 225 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 4: I'm going to fill an Apple invented flu bot. 226 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 10: Now. 227 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 2: Look, if you if you have actually lost personal information 228 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 2: to a scammer, you should contact Dave idcare dot org. 229 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: Is we can get in touch with him. Are one 230 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: one hundred and five nine five one six zero if 231 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 2: you think you've been victim to a scam one hundred 232 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 2: five five one six zero, because Dave knows how to 233 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 2: help you out and sounds like it's absolutely right now, 234 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: right now, Dave, thanks for all your help, mate, that 235 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: was fascinating. 236 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 3: Thanks. 237 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: I know lots of people would have heard that and 238 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: have been very worried about something they've clicked on recently. 239 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: His name is doctor David Lacy. He's the managing director 240 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 2: of I D Care and I gave those details before. 241 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 2: Id care dot org or one hundred five nine five 242 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: one sixty is the phone number if you want to 243 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 2: get in touch with him. I D Care sounds like 244 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 2: a bloody good bloke and he can help you out. 245 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 1: It's the Will and Woody podcast. 246 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 4: My dad is currently ripe for the picking. 247 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 5: Yes, we want to stitch him up, making him believe 248 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 5: that he's getting hacked, which is just a rich area 249 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 5: with the elderly, isn't it. I mean sorry when I 250 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 5: say elderly, yeah, I mean when you get when I'm there, 251 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 5: I'm in my thirties. Now get all the text out. 252 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 5: Think I've me think I've covered myself during lockdown. I 253 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 5: just feel like scams and hacks are really they're rife. 254 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 2: Actually, if you missed that, we spoke to called Dr 255 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: Dave Lacy earlier from the eye. I was going to 256 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: say the I T crowd, but that's a sketch group, 257 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: the I D Care director of Care and he he 258 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: wasloody helpful. So get that on the podcast. If you 259 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: think you're being scammed at the moment, because they are right. 260 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely so, because they are right at the moment. 261 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 5: I know that last week my dad received a number 262 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 5: of emails from Disney Plus. Now I don't think these 263 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 5: were actually emails from Disney Plus because that has kept 264 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 5: emailing him, and he put all the emails in the 265 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 5: family thread and he's like, guys, what's going on? Do 266 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 5: I have a Disney account? I'm not even sure how 267 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 5: many screens have I gone. 268 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 4: Who's been using it? 269 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 5: He's just freaking out, And naturally we taught him to 270 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 5: just delete all the emails. But right now I just think, 271 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 5: because he is freaking out, we have a great opportunity 272 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 5: to get our button push of Joel to call him 273 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 5: up as Disney Plus and just rattle him a little 274 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 5: bit fast. So Joel is currently outside the studio to 275 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 5: make it sound like he's calling off a mobile phone, 276 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 5: We're going to connect him and my dad right now 277 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 5: and just see how far we can get him. 278 00:11:53,840 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 11: Okay, Steve Whitelaw, Hi, that's Stephen. 279 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 12: Yes, it is hi Stephen. My name is Frank Cosentin. 280 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 12: I'm calling from Disney Plus Australia. How are you this afternoon? 281 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? Fine, thank you? 282 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 12: Oh fantastic. Look, I'll be quick because probably a very 283 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 12: busy man this afternoon. I hope I'm not interrupting anything. Yeah, 284 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 12: I'm talking about a fantastic deal that we've got going 285 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 12: on at the moment in the Disney Plus. So I 286 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 12: can see on my my spreadsheet in front of me 287 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 12: that we've got you down as a subscriber. 288 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 11: To what So Father to what Disney Plus, Disney Plus 289 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 11: So what's It's. 290 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 12: A streaming in Australia that provides entertainment. You might have 291 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 12: heard of films such as Star Wars or Disney's Pixar. 292 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 12: You know, films like that Marvel. Are you a fan 293 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 12: of Iron Man Robert that does that sort of ring 294 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 12: a bell? 295 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 11: No, that's not it doesn't know anyway. What's what's? 296 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 3: What's your situation? 297 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 12: What's what's? I've got you down here as a monthly subscriber, Stephen, 298 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 12: basically the program that we've got there, which is just 299 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 12: the two subscriptions to users a month, so you're allowed 300 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 12: to use two different screens. It's only an extra dollar 301 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 12: a month, but you can go to four screens a month. 302 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 12: So I'm not sure if you've gone so certainly just 303 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 12: we were so I am I a member of Disney Plus. Yes, yes, 304 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 12: I've got you down here. 305 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 4: Just does he hang up? Did he hang up? 306 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 2: I think he must have hung up. He fized it. 307 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 4: Well, we've got to get him again. 308 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 5: I can hear in the tone of my dad's voice 309 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 5: he's about to erupt. Let's get the volcano to explode. 310 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 2: We're going to go to. 311 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 5: Give him a couple of minutes to just you know, 312 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 5: get more worried. Let's call him back. 313 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: We are in the midst of torching what he's Dad. 314 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: He's live on on the hook right now, so we've 315 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: got to keep things moving towards I'm really worried that 316 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 2: he's actually gonna call the authorities or something. 317 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 4: Just to set the scene. 318 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 5: Dad has received all these emails from what he believed 319 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 5: was Disney Plus. 320 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 9: Yeah. 321 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 4: I don't think he's even a subscriber of Disney Plus. No, 322 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 4: so he's rattled. 323 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 2: Well, the funny thing is he doesn't even know what 324 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: he's a subscriber of, which is probably something we've all experienced. Yeah, 325 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: you sign up for something, after a few reds, you 326 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: get yourself a free trial, and then all of a 327 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 2: sudden you're paying money to them. Yeah, it's scary. It's scary. 328 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 4: It is very scary. Get you with the free trial. 329 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 330 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 5: Anyway, before the song, we got our button push of Joel, 331 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 5: who's now back in the studio to call Dad as 332 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 5: Disney Plus to rattle him a bit further. 333 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 4: Here's a grab of. 334 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 12: That can't you down here as a monthly subscriber, Stephen. 335 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 12: Basically the program that we've got there, which is just 336 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 12: the two subscriptions to us as a month, so you're 337 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 12: allowed to use two different screens. It's only an extra 338 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 12: dollar a month, but you can go up to four 339 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 12: screens a month. 340 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 5: So eventually he hung up the phone because he was 341 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 5: getting a little bit rattled, a little bit scared. 342 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 4: We just tried to call him back during the song 343 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 4: of the private number. 344 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 5: Not surprisingly, he's not picking up the phone. 345 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 4: We've shook the guy. 346 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, So what I'm going to do now just to 347 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 5: see how rattle I think. 348 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 4: So I've feel little bit bad. Now I'm going to 349 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 4: call him off. 350 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 2: And he's going to be like locking the front door. 351 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 2: At the moment he's going to be, he will have 352 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 2: pucked his vine. 353 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 5: He hasn't called Mum because if Mum gets involved, I've 354 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 5: got my home mobile here, so I'll call Data. We 355 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 5: can just sort of get the ladder land as to 356 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 5: how RATTLEDY is? 357 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 4: Hey Dad hay gain Yeah, yeah, pretty good, pretty good. 358 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 5: I just had a really weird call though from Disney Yeah, 359 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 5: Disney plus. 360 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 7: Okay, Yeah, Well this is interesting because last week I 361 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 7: got some text messages and it was quite out of 362 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 7: the blue and quite weird, and I deleted them and 363 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 7: then I got a phone call, no call or ID, 364 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 7: and then I started talking. He's a real smart as 365 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 7: smarmy sales person, saying about, you know, to change your 366 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 7: membership and increase for this special deal. 367 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 4: Do you even have it? Do you even have a membership? 368 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 4: Do you do you have? 369 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 7: Well? 370 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 3: Look, you're spot on because at the moment I. 371 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 13: Just went to my iPad and there's an app, and 372 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 13: I was about to put it around the family to say, 373 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 13: you know, Disney Plus. I've got a Disney Plus app. 374 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 13: I couldn't log in on my email normally email, so 375 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 13: I was thinking, or maybe Tom's put it on or 376 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 13: Sarah's put it on, and and I'm sort of a 377 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 13: beneficiary of it. 378 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 7: I'm not the you know, the colder account holder. 379 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 5: Yeah right, Well, actually I've got actually I've got a 380 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 5: tech guy here actually who's like he's an expert in hacking. 381 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 4: I might just get him to let you know what 382 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 4: it is. Okay, Stephen, it's Frank Cosentino from Disney Plus here. 383 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: How are you? 384 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 4: I can't believe you've never seen iron Man. Stephen. 385 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 6: You I can bump you out to fur screens if 386 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 6: you like, you want to update your subscription. 387 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 10: No call, I've you got a bit of time, Stephen 388 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 10: to complete a quick survey to value my performance as 389 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 10: a member of Disney. 390 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 4: Plus, you're very good, very good. 391 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 10: Indeed, I don't recommend you to anyone's Woody podcast. 392 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 2: Give us a call third and in one O six ' 393 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: five if you genuinely think you can convince us that 394 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: you're in the car with somebody else, it's fine alone 395 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 2: Wiland Woodies, fine alone. 396 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 5: All right, we've got Jenny who has stepped up to 397 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 5: the plate here. Hi Jenny, Hi, how are you very 398 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 5: very well? 399 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Jenny. Who are you in the 400 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 4: car with Jen? 401 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 14: Oh, my dad's in the car with me. 402 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: Your dad? 403 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 10: Yes? 404 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 15: And Cara? 405 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 4: Okay? Perfect? What's dad's name? 406 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 16: My dad's name? 407 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 11: Joe? 408 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 10: Joe? 409 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 4: Okay, Chuck, Joe on the phone please. 410 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 16: All right, just one minute? Dare you have to go 411 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 16: on the phone? 412 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 12: Okay? 413 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 14: Well, oh all right, I have you understand nimo because 414 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 14: I don't think English too good. 415 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 2: He doesn't speak English too good. 416 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 16: Yeah, he's okay. 417 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 2: He'll speak to you though, all right, yeah, check you on. 418 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 4: Hello, Hello Joe. Hello, are you very very well? Joe? 419 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 4: What did you do for a job when you were 420 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 4: a younger man. 421 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 8: Oh, I worked for. 422 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 11: You know Pine the pint. 423 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 5: You the painting place, Yes, I do know. The painting 424 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 5: play is very good. And what's your fondest memory of 425 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 5: your daughter? 426 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 4: Jenny? 427 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 2: Oh, she's my favorite. 428 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 14: She's a very good girl. 429 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 2: Very good Jenny. But we think you're probably there by yourself, Jen. 430 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 12: So are you you speak English? 431 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 4: You're there by yourself unless it's an incredibly. 432 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 2: No good voice though, Okay, great voice, great voice. 433 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 4: Let's get Josh here. Josh. 434 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, good made, Yeah. 435 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 4: Pretty good. Thanks mate. Who are you in the car. 436 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 17: With I'm in the car with mate, Nigel? 437 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 4: Nigel, Nigel, Okay, check nudge on the phone. 438 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 12: Ah, yeah, alive? 439 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 2: Is such as you? Josh? Did you change your voice 440 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 2: at all? 441 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 3: There? 442 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 18: Mate? 443 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: No this Michael. 444 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 4: Oh, hang on a second. There might be a subtle 445 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 4: difference there. Nigel, had you no, Josh? 446 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 12: Sorry, So I've known Josh for roughly you're about eight 447 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 12: years now. 448 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 4: Okay, put the phone back under Josh. 449 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 5: Yeah life, Gee bloody hell, that is there is a 450 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 5: very subtle difference. 451 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 2: Do you think I just think it's the same dude, 452 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 2: one hundred percent. No, not one hundred percent. But if 453 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 2: you reckon, this's a subtle what's the difference. 454 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 4: There's a little I don't know what the difference is, 455 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 4: but it's a subtle difference. 456 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 2: Josh, Yeah, is it? Josh and Nigel on the phone 457 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 2: right now. 458 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 4: Josh's on the phone. 459 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 2: Okay, Josh, Josh used to me your favorite. Can you 460 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: just sing gimme, Gimmy, gimme? And then Nigel, can you 461 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: sing a man after midnight? You know how that song goes? Yeah, okay, 462 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 2: let's do it. 463 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 9: Give me, give me Gimmy. 464 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 19: I don't know how the other song goes. 465 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 2: People found we've found them out. There's two of you 466 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 2: there night right work night. You got on and done 467 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 2: with your music. 468 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 8: I'll tell you what, boys, You're gonna have yourself a 469 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 8: double pass to go and see The Night House, which 470 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 8: is in cinemas. Now whereabouts you? Whereabouts you live? 471 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: Beautiful? So you definitely won't be able to go to 472 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 2: the cinemas right now, but you know, hopefully it's still 473 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 2: in the cinemas when you're out of lockdown. Ah easy, usy, usy, 474 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 2: All right, dear lady, boys, have a good one. 475 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: It's the Will and Woody podcast. 476 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 2: Right now, pulling down divine intervention. Let's do it. 477 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 5: We're not necessarily going to be pulling it down because 478 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 5: I like to pull those things up. I love a miracle, 479 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 5: and I read a wild miracle in the news today. 480 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 5: But Will, it's no secret you're not a huge fan 481 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 5: of a miracle. 482 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: Not a huge fan. I just think that a lot 483 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: of them could be explained, And a lot of people 484 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 2: like to think that there's been some sort of divine 485 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 2: intervention because it's nicer that way, it's cushier. It's nice 486 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 2: to think there's an old guy upstairs pulling the strings 487 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 2: and we're all part of some pattern or purpose. It's 488 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 2: a nice feeling. I've been there. But if you look 489 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 2: a bit harder, often things are very easily explained. Why 490 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 2: would you take me here? Why would you take me here? 491 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 5: I just think it's interesting because if we get one 492 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 5: through you, yeah, yeah, yeah, it is a genuine miracle. 493 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: That's not fair, and that's not fair. I'm not the 494 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 2: I'm not. 495 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 4: Are you the miracle police? 496 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 2: No, the constable. You know there's a pun in there 497 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 2: which is not favorable towards me. Now, I'm not. I'm 498 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 2: not the miracle police. 499 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 5: Okay, but let me run one by you right now, 500 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 5: because this. I think this is a genuine miracle. So 501 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 5: a woman called Katie Paige decides to adopt a child. Okay, 502 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 5: this is actually so she decides to do it. 503 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 2: By the way, on a loose interpretation of miracle, is 504 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 2: a really nice miracle for the child. 505 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 4: I haven't even know the miracle. 506 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 2: But do you know what I mean? Like if the 507 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 2: kid hasn't got a parent and someone, you know that 508 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 2: sort of miracle I'm a big fan of. Okay, you 509 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 2: know the kid hasn't got a parent, all of a 510 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 2: sudden a woman comes on and adopt her. That's a 511 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 2: wonderful thing. We can call that a miracle. Okay, but 512 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 2: it's an explainable miracle. There's no God involved there. 513 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 5: Well, let me continue as the miraculousness of this story 514 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 5: just continues to get miraculous. 515 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 4: I don't another word to describe it. So Katie adopt 516 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 4: a child. 517 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 5: Okay, so this is actually a baby that got abandoned 518 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 5: at a hospital. She gets the child, the baby's all good, 519 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 5: has it? For eleven months? She then gets a call 520 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 5: from the services where she's applied to be in a 521 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 5: option mother and they say, hey, there's another child. 522 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 2: Oh would you like another one which has. 523 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 5: Just been born. Okay, do you want to have a 524 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 5: second baby? And she just feels felt right to Katie Paige, 525 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 5: I didn't want a second baby, but it just feels. 526 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 2: This is something she said afterwards, after she realized there 527 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: was So this is we do get very good at 528 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 2: substantiating our feelings after something amazing happens to us. So 529 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: this is, all of a sudden, you start feeling things 530 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 2: in the past. You're like, God should have seen it, 531 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 2: you know, And all of a sudden, the sun was 532 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: coming over this hill and it kind of just lined 533 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 2: up with all these trees, and I could almost see 534 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 2: the face of God in my peanut butter toast. It 535 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: was amazing. 536 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 5: It's miracles, man. For this is eleven months after the 537 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 5: first adoption. She then picks up the second baby. 538 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 9: Yep. 539 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 4: One month later, they do a test brother and sister. 540 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 4: They are related. 541 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 2: The two childs that the two children's is adopted children 542 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 2: were related. And you don't think that the people at 543 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: the birthing authority might have had something to do with 544 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 2: putting the siblings together. 545 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 4: Hope not. 546 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 2: That would make a lot of sense. That actually, rather 547 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 2: than just going, oh my god, what of the chances 548 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 2: there related. You want the two kids from the same 549 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 2: place and they've gone, you know what, it would be 550 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 2: the right thing to do, buy statute and moral obligation 551 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 2: to probably put the siblings in the same house. 552 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 4: It is the same caseworker. 553 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 5: So I think you have poked a substantial hole in 554 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 5: that one Australia. 555 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 4: That's what will do. 556 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 2: Please rain them down, bring them up right up next. 557 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 5: If you know of or you experience something which you 558 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 5: think was genuinely a miracle, give us a call, because 559 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 5: up next and we do this will deschoice your miracle. 560 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 8: Now, come on, now, I don't ruin your day. 561 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 2: It's a coincidence. That's a very good I'm a very 562 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 2: big fan of my chocolate, but I'm not going to 563 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 2: be ruining miracles. Would I have anything, if anything? I 564 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 2: think this in all of the time, I can substantiate 565 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 2: a miracle, you know, I can show you the rationale 566 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: behind how strong a coincidence, A beautiful coincidence, in my eyes, 567 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 2: is far more majestic than any sort of divine intervention. 568 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 2: I think that shows the spectacular randomness of the universe 569 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 2: and how it can make you feel central to it. 570 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's gorgeous. 571 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 4: I think you're gorgeous. 572 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: Let's go to a son. 573 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 4: Listen, Will and Woody calls with your miracles. 574 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 2: We are talking miracles. 575 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 6: Will destroys your miracles, It'll ruin your day. 576 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 2: It's a coincidence. 577 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 5: Well you, generally speaking, you're a bit cynical of miracles. 578 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 5: You think you can find the coincidence, or you can 579 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 5: that you can find something within the story that disproves 580 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 5: that it was a miracle. 581 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 2: Well, not necessarily. I mean sometimes science can, I think, 582 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 2: and reason can actually heighten the miracle. I just don't 583 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 2: like relying on the act that there's been some sort 584 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 2: of otherworldly intervention to make your experience so special. Just 585 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: look inward, guys, it's all there for you. You don't 586 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 2: have to have to think about something else intervening. 587 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 5: All right, Well, we do have people calling up though 588 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 5: that believe they have experienced miracles, and Will, we're just 589 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 5: testing to see if you also think that these beautiful 590 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 5: people have experienced. 591 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying I'm going to have an explanation 592 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 2: for everyone here. I much agree with everyone. 593 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 5: You might might be a bit boring if you did that. 594 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 5: But to Lynn here, Lynn tell us your miracle. 595 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 14: Hello guys, Hello, my miracle is you know a Stud Road? 596 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 14: How busy Stud Road is? 597 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: Yes? 598 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 4: Of course, Boud driving. 599 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 14: Down Stud Road on my way to work about two 600 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 14: years ago, lost control of the car. Yeah, I was 601 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 14: like swinging was fifty five then, So I'm swinging the 602 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 14: steering wheels, I'm side to side, and I'm dodging poles, 603 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 14: and then all of a sudden, I started doing donuts 604 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 14: down the road, down Stud Road, and then I came 605 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 14: to a holt and I'll was facing the oncoming traffic. 606 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 14: They'd all stop behind me, I know, And I just 607 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 14: could not believe that I did not hit one of 608 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 14: those polls I was hidden for. I didn't hit another 609 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 14: car or anything. 610 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 16: It was an absolute miracle. 611 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 4: It's a bloody miracle. 612 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 14: I wish I could see the footage of it. 613 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well that's me too. 614 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 4: I wish I saw you do. 615 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 2: You probably wish we all could see the footage, Limb, 616 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 2: because I think when you're in the car and it 617 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 2: feels like, you know, you're wildly spinning out of the 618 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 2: control most of the time, from the outside, it's not 619 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 2: that bad. 620 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 4: So what you're saying, Lind's a lie. 621 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 2: No, I don't think destroy your America. 622 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 4: Don't come on. 623 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: If it was that busy and she was doing donuts 624 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 2: in the middle of the road, that she probably would 625 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 2: have been a car. 626 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 4: All right. 627 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: It sounds like she just come on the show with 628 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 2: a genuine dollar of Mayo, which I'm glad Linn's alive to. Anyway, 629 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: let's let's go the next one. So so, I'm sorry, 630 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 2: I'm not calling you a lie. I'm not calling you 631 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 2: a lie. To go, Tracy, Tracy, what happened? I don't 632 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 2: like doing this. I just want to put that out there. 633 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 5: Well, heavy lies the crown, my friend. The power you have, 634 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 5: you need to yield it. Tracy, what happened to your mum? 635 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 5: Was it a miracle? 636 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 17: It was a miracle. My mum went to the exhibition 637 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 17: buildings in town, not from that area. Was walking back 638 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 17: to the car with her friend. They were chatting, and 639 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 17: she got distracted. She opened the gate to this little 640 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 17: terrace house, walked up the street, put her head on 641 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 17: the front door, and her friend said, what the hell 642 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 17: are you doing? And she said, oh, I don't know, 643 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 17: just kept walking, got to the car, didn't think anything 644 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 17: of it. Six months later she found out she was adopted, 645 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 17: and that's the house she was born in. 646 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 4: Ge where's her hand on a door? 647 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 2: Wheel of anyway, I got a bit lost in there. 648 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 5: She put her she rested her hand on a random 649 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 5: house door. Yeah, because she was feeling a bit woozy. 650 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 18: Then she got distracted. Distracted, Yeah, she was just trading 651 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 18: and suddenly she was walking up this straight This was Can. 652 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 2: I, Tracy, Can I just try and re explain the 653 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 2: story to you, because I'm a little bit lost what 654 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 2: they got to do with the exhibition buildings and the 655 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 2: other friend that she bumped into. No, no, no, that 656 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: was just context. Okay, So she's walking, So she's walking 657 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 2: home and then she puts her hand on a doorknob, 658 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 2: and then she finds out later on that. 659 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 17: What that that was the house she was born in. 660 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: That was the house she was born in. 661 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 5: How many knobs does she touch, Tracy? Is she a 662 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 5: big doorknob toucher? 663 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 2: That's a great question. 664 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 15: As far as I know. 665 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 2: And so she touched the knob of the house that 666 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: she was born in. Yes, did she live in the 667 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 2: house at all? 668 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 12: Like? 669 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: Was how long was she in the house for? She 670 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 2: was born there? 671 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 17: She was adopted at she was born in that house, 672 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 17: and she was adopted at birth, and. 673 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 2: So she's just talking to her mate and she just 674 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: grabs the doorknob. 675 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 9: Yeah. 676 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a buddy. Miracles. I mean, that's pretty extraordinary. Agreed, 677 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 2: absolutely phenomenally, think of any reason, because I was thinking, 678 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 2: if she'd lived in the house for a little while. 679 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 4: Can we do one more? Can we do one more? 680 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 4: Painut be really quick, pain out here we go. Come on, sorry, Daniel, 681 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 4: I've read your name wrong. Daniel. We've got a live on. 682 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 4: We've got a live on here. You had a miracle 683 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 4: half an hour ago? Whiz yes, correct? What happened? 684 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 11: I was on the ladders, yep, and the lighter fell. 685 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 4: The name and collapse, jeez, and he caught me. 686 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 19: He caught my arm, called me up. 687 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 3: Wow, I can even. 688 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 11: Send about my roofs and stuff. 689 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 12: They're all rude. 690 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Where's the miracle? 691 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 11: That is a miracle? 692 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's just your friend catching you, Daniel. 693 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 2: I don't know if we call it a miracle necessarily. 694 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm glad you're still alive and everything, but 695 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 2: you don't need to thank something, you know, you don't 696 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 2: need to thank God for that. That was just a 697 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 2: nice catch by your mate, doesn't it. That's a miracle, 698 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: huge mate, huge, absolutely massive. 699 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 4: Joys your America. A bit of a stitch up on 700 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 4: your mate to call that a miracle. 701 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 3: Get around here, yeah, right next to me, that's you 702 00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 3: on the phone. 703 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 4: Well, you guys can celebrate. Buy beer, Go and buy 704 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 4: him a beer. 705 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 5: Let's go to the traffic shouldn't gone to that last miracle, 706 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 5: that's for sure. 707 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 4: Let's go to the. 708 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: Traffic Wood podcast. 709 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 5: Has your kid ever over committed to something? Thirteen one 710 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 5: oh six ' five is our number? Some sort of 711 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 5: talking about if they, you know, did they just think 712 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 5: they were a cat and then just continue to be 713 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 5: a cat for like a full year? 714 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 2: That's the sort you mean that the kids that don't 715 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 2: take off their Spider Man outfit for six months? 716 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 4: Exactly? 717 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, if your kid has just said it as 718 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 2: your kid over committed to something, I was like, what, 719 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 2: they signed a contract they shouldn't have. But anyway, we 720 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 2: don't take that call over there. 721 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 5: If you signed some weird contract, I'll take that the example. Oh, 722 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 5: the reason we're doing it is because we had a 723 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 5: woman called Julie call Us yesterday who had an example 724 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 5: of her child over committing to something. 725 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 4: At a really terrible. 726 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 19: Time, we were traveling through Hong Kong Airport and my 727 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 19: little boy was about four, So they asked at customs, 728 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 19: what's your name, and instead of answering his name, he 729 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,479 Speaker 19: started saying I am a robot and doing a robot 730 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 19: dam and they were like, move away from the child things. 731 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 19: But I couldn't understand, like he's my child, but he 732 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 19: just catch going with this I am a robot hearing 733 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 19: his robot dam for like fifteen minutes and. 734 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 4: He's still in prison and still a robot. 735 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 2: No he's not, He's not in prison. 736 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 4: He dropped the act. But so we were talking about this. 737 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 5: Amongst the team and I haven't heard this yet, but 738 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 5: our beautiful audio producer, Tim, you over committed to something 739 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 5: when you were a kid. 740 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 20: Yeah, so I always commit to the bit. 741 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 2: And yeah, we know that about you, Tim, We know 742 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 2: that about you. Thanks permitted context as to who you are, 743 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 2: no problem, and we know who you are a little 744 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 2: bit more carry on. 745 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 4: I can go on it. 746 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, please, don't please. 747 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 20: So my dad told me that when I was really 748 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 20: really young, like maybe two or three, I got very 749 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 20: angry about I don't know, like I had to go inside, 750 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 20: had to I didn't know or whatever. Got so angry 751 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 20: that I just refused to breathe. Oh my God, and 752 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 20: to the point where I passed out. 753 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 2: Oh my god, God. 754 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 5: And did it did it work? Like you know, I 755 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 5: feel like you win the argument there if you pass out. 756 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 20: Yeah, definitely freaked him out. I was unconscious, So I'm 757 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 20: not sure if that's really a win. 758 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 759 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 5: True, when you break it down, it's not really freak 760 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 5: him out. 761 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 2: This is what we're talking about, though, Have you got 762 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 2: to commitment too a bit? I actually realized I had 763 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 2: one my apparently I don't remember this. My grandma's funeral. 764 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 2: She was she was very much a very much a Christian, 765 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 2: very much into peace. It was a big theme with 766 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 2: my grandma's funeral. I was obsessed with swords at the time. Interesting, 767 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 2: and so apparently at the back of the church, Mum 768 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: tried to keep me away from the church because I 769 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 2: had all these swords on me and they didn't want 770 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 2: they swords in the church. And then during this big 771 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 2: sermon and they're talking about peace in Christianity, there was 772 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 2: this son coming in through the back of the church 773 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 2: and there was just the silhouette of me hoisting this sort. 774 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 5: Wow, so you've over committed to being a swordsman. 775 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 2: It's just a warmonger at the age of four. 776 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 5: Alright, five is the number. You might have been the 777 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 5: kid or it might be your kid. Yes, have they 778 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 5: over committed to a bit to a gag? 779 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 2: Oh, it's not a gag, it's a belief as a child. 780 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a belief. 781 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 5: Yesterday we received a call from Julie who informed us 782 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 5: that while going through airport security, her son just committed 783 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 5: to saying he was a robot. 784 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 4: Security freaked out. 785 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 5: Quite a scary situation for the family, but I enjoyed 786 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 5: the story, So I want to hear more of these 787 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 5: types of stories. 788 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 2: That is, he wouldn't snap out of it. 789 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, for like twenty minutes, and security like separated him from. 790 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 2: His Another kid that called it. Yesterday, a woman who 791 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 2: said a kid started claiming he was getting kidnapped. Yes, 792 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 2: while she was trying to put him in the car structor. 793 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 2: But she had to show the cops aller id. 794 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 5: And he committed apparently, started the fake tears going and 795 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 5: everything totally wild. I've got a friend of mine actually, 796 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,919 Speaker 5: whose brother committed so much to mean Superman that there's 797 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 5: a bit of a horrific getting to the story, that's 798 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 5: not horrific, but like got on the roof and thought 799 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 5: it would. 800 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 4: Fly and jumped off the roof. 801 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 5: Wow, broke an ankle recovered perfectly, though, don't jump off 802 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 5: rips kids. Let's go to Nathan here thirteen one oh 803 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 5: sixty five. 804 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 2: We've got to be careful with this topic. I feel, well, you. 805 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 4: Can encourage we're responsible adults. 806 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 2: But well one of us is Kiara is called on 807 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 2: one and six five Kar talks with what happened to 808 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 2: your little brother? 809 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 15: Yes, so my brother was about three and we had 810 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 15: one of our neighbors who's kind of a jested with her, 811 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 15: and basically he keeps proposing to her, and it got 812 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 15: to the point where my mom was like, oh, you're 813 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 15: gonna shower it up. It's naked, and we left one 814 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 15: of the windows open. He climbed over, grabbed a bunch 815 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 15: of flowers from our garden, and he went across and 816 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 15: he proposed to her in the no the lady goes, 817 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 15: what was it? 818 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 12: I'll get away from here before I call the cops. 819 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 15: So she was done he was done with it, and 820 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 15: my mom has like apologize so funny, So she. 821 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 2: Puts him in the shower, like cool him off. He 822 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 2: gets out of the shower totally nerd, climbs out of 823 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 2: the window, picks flowers, and then proposes in the nerd 824 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 2: y extrawdinary that is how old was. 825 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 10: Three? 826 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 4: Did he have a ring? 827 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 2: Did he have a ring? 828 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 10: That's cute? 829 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 15: The flowers were the rings. So he's like, I'm sorry, 830 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 15: like it was basically like the flowers of the rings. Yeah, 831 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 15: take it. 832 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 2: Oh he's three. That is a door as if you're 833 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 2: calling the cops on that, like, come on, did the 834 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 2: next door name? 835 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 4: She was crazy? So good she said no, you know, 836 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 4: get her out of the family would have been an 837 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 4: awkward Christmas. 838 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,879 Speaker 2: But I think they were ever actually going to marry. 839 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,879 Speaker 4: What he was three is stranger things have happened. 840 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 2: No, I don't know if they have. You're a justice 841 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 2: of the peace. He's not legally allowed to get married, 842 00:36:58,880 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 2: is he? 843 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 4: Very good point, Very good point. That was a test. 844 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:02,760 Speaker 4: Let's go to Sharon. 845 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 2: That's your job, you know. Oh god, Sharon, delete that audio. 846 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 4: Let's go to Sharon. Sharon, your daughter over committed to something. 847 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 16: Yes, she did. When she was about four years old. 848 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 16: She liked to pretend she was a dog, to the 849 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 16: point that she would jump up at the counter at 850 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 16: the supermarket and pant and bark. I would have to 851 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 16: pat her on the head. She called herself spooky. She'd 852 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 16: roll over on a stomach pattern. She wanted me to 853 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 16: take her on a choker chain to the shop, but 854 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 16: I told her that was illegal. Yeah. Yeah, she ate 855 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 16: a food when she could out of a bowl on 856 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,280 Speaker 16: the floor. I had to hide the dog food because 857 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 16: she would eat it. 858 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 18: God. 859 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 16: Yeah, Sharon Good twelve to eighteen months. 860 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, were you picking up her too? 861 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 16: If she could have done that, she would have in 862 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 16: the backyard, Yes, definitely, But no I didn't have to, thankfully. 863 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 16: But yeah, she was obsessed. Everywhere we went. She dressed 864 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 16: up in dog outfits everything. 865 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 2: At what point do you just let your child be 866 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 2: a dog? 867 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 14: Like? 868 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 2: At what point do you sort of buy them a 869 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,399 Speaker 2: dog bed and put them in the kennel? 870 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 4: And did you consider it? 871 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 2: Just concede. 872 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 16: I would have liked to put her outside in a 873 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 16: kennel sometimes, to be honest, No, but look I didn't. 874 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 16: She wasn't hurting anybody. She wasn't hurting anything, Sharon, No, 875 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 16: she wasn't. Thankfully, put a mother on her. 876 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 4: That's wild ducks for the parent that's pretty white. 877 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 2: That's really tough. 878 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because they're doing it for so long. Another 879 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 4: right thing to do. 880 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's got Nathan here, now, Nathan, your son over 881 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 5: committed to something. 882 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 9: Yeah, it was so basically it was one day he 883 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 9: listened to the baby Shark song Oh no yeah. 884 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 2: And basically don't take a step. 885 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 9: Basically, the next night we put him in the bathtub 886 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 9: and he would not hop out for three straight hours, 887 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 9: thinking of a shark. And every time I tried to 888 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 9: get him out, I'd either get bitten or screen it. 889 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: Scream it what you're hearing. 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