WEBVTT - Putin's biggest critic is dead

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<v Speaker 1>Already and this this is the daily This is the

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<v Speaker 1>Daily OS. Oh, now it makes sense. Good morning, and

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the Daily OS. It is Tuesday, the twentieth

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<v Speaker 1>of February.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm billy, I'm emma.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the weekend, Alexi Navalney, the most vocal critic of

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<v Speaker 1>Russian President Vladimir Putin, died in prison.

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<v Speaker 2>Russia's prison authorities have announced that the leading Kremlin critic,

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<v Speaker 2>Alexi Nevelni has died. Alexi date yesterday on sixteenth of

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<v Speaker 2>February at seventeen pm local time.

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<v Speaker 3>Putin is Responsible's death. Putin is responsible.

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<v Speaker 1>Navalney was in jails serving multiple sentences for crimes he

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<v Speaker 1>claimed were fabricated. Since the news of his death broke,

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<v Speaker 1>many Western leaders have been quick to blame the Russian

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<v Speaker 1>government for his death. In today's deep dive discussing who

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<v Speaker 1>Alexi noaval Nee was and why his death has such

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<v Speaker 1>significant global ramifications. But first, Emma, what's making him?

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<v Speaker 2>Seventy firefighters have responded to a factory fire in France

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<v Speaker 1>And Today's Good News. In a sweeping measure to solve

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<v Speaker 1>plastic waste, a small business in Cambodia has found a

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<v Speaker 2>Late on Friday evening, it was announced that Alexi Navalni,

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<v Speaker 2>who was Russia's main opposition leader the main critic of

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<v Speaker 2>Putin and his government, died in jail at the age

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<v Speaker 2>of forty seven. Navalne was famous not just in Russia

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<v Speaker 2>but all around the world for being President Vladimir Putin's

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<v Speaker 2>most vocal critic. So I think to start us off,

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<v Speaker 2>we need to talk about exactly who Alexinovalni was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was quite shocking news to wake up to

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<v Speaker 1>on Saturday morning. I feel like it's something that we've

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<v Speaker 1>known could potentially happen, but still I think when it

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<v Speaker 1>does happen, it feels shocking.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people felt that way, like

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<v Speaker 2>a long time coming potentially in terms of the risk

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<v Speaker 2>and the risks that he had taken. But yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>I think a similar emotional response for probably a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of our audience.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so let's talk about who he was. So he

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<v Speaker 1>first rose to prominence in the two thousands for blogging

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<v Speaker 1>online about the corruption he believed to be widespread in Russia,

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<v Speaker 1>and certainly he's not alone in that belief. In doing

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<v Speaker 1>research for this, I came across this quote from twenty

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<v Speaker 1>and eleven, which I think really speaks to exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>he believed then and certainly believed as the years went on.

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<v Speaker 1>So he told Reuters at the time, quote corruption is

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<v Speaker 1>the foundation of contemporary Russia. It is a foundation of

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<v Speaker 1>mister Putin's political power. I would like to be president,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are no elections in Russia.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>He went on to be the most successful opponent to Pudin,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've said that he was the opposition leader, but

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<v Speaker 1>he actually never was able to run for office, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's because Russia has an authoritative government, which is exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what Navalni was so passionate about criticizing and changing, but

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<v Speaker 1>clearly wasn't able to do that. In the last presidential

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<v Speaker 1>election in twenty eighteen, he did try, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>formally barred from running due to a fraud conviction, which

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<v Speaker 1>was widely viewed as politically motivated. So people widely said

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<v Speaker 1>that the Russian government just did this to stop him

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<v Speaker 1>from ever being able to run against Pudin, as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to it being a credible conviction.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we also need to point out here that

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<v Speaker 2>Putin and the Kremlin Russian officials would argue against the

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<v Speaker 2>notion that Russia does not conduct elections. There is an

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<v Speaker 2>election coming this year. The question is, and the argument

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<v Speaker 2>from Navalni from the years that he was active in

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<v Speaker 2>Russian politics, has always been that those elections are not

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<v Speaker 2>free and fair, that they are a front to give

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<v Speaker 2>the illusion of free democracy, but that the results are

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<v Speaker 2>guaranteed and that the power stays in the hands of

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<v Speaker 2>Vladimir Putin.

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<v Speaker 1>And certainly without a opposition, you can't really have a

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<v Speaker 1>fair election exactly, But let's keep going. You might also

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<v Speaker 1>know this was massive news at the time that in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty Navalny was actually poisoned.

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<v Speaker 2>I do remember this. There was a series of poisonings

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<v Speaker 2>around that time. I think people listening have probably heard

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<v Speaker 2>the word Novachuk a few times. What can you tell

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<v Speaker 2>me about that incident, specifically, what happened to Nevalni?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So, in twenty twenty Navalny became violently ill after

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<v Speaker 1>boarding a flight to Moscow, and that was very sudden.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time, there weren't really any symptoms before now.

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<v Speaker 1>He was treated by doctors in Germany and they had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea what happened at the time, But the German

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<v Speaker 1>government later announced that he had been poisoned by Russia

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<v Speaker 1>in an attempt to silence him. The then German leader

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<v Speaker 1>Angela Merkle said he had been the victim of a crime,

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<v Speaker 1>and she said it raised questions only the Russian government

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<v Speaker 1>can answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, Pruden denied any involvement in that. But since

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one, Navalni has been in prison, serving multiple

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<v Speaker 1>prison sentences, including a nineteen year sentence for extremism, and

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<v Speaker 1>he again said all of those cases against him were

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<v Speaker 1>completely fabricated and had no credibility behind them. Despite being

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<v Speaker 1>in prison, though, that did not stop him from campaigning

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<v Speaker 1>for what he believed in. For example, he was a

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<v Speaker 1>staunch opponent of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, and he certainly

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<v Speaker 1>kept campaigning for that to end while he was in jail.

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<v Speaker 2>Going back to that poisoning incident, you said, Billy, that

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<v Speaker 2>he was treated in Germany. The German government announced or

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<v Speaker 2>accused Russia of poisoning him. Of course, Navalny ended up

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<v Speaker 2>back in Russia, back behind bars, and that was because

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<v Speaker 2>he passionately believed so much in the importance of that

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<v Speaker 2>opposition existing in Russia. He could have stayed in Germany,

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<v Speaker 2>he could have lived in exile, but he went back

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<v Speaker 2>to face those charges, and that's ultimately why he ended

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<v Speaker 2>up in jailen and in jail is where he died.

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<v Speaker 2>So we know he was a staunch critic of the Kremlin.

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<v Speaker 2>He had survived this previous attack. What do we know

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<v Speaker 2>about his death. What happened on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>So his death was announced in an extremely vague statement

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<v Speaker 1>from the prison service in the region where he was

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<v Speaker 1>in jail, and it said convict Alexi Navalny felt unwell

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<v Speaker 1>after a war, almost immediately losing consciousness. All necessary resuscitation

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<v Speaker 1>measures were carried out, which did not yield positive results.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctors of the ambulance stated the death of the convict. Now, initially,

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<v Speaker 1>Navalny's representatives actually couldn't confirm his death, but they said

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<v Speaker 1>that if it was true, he was killed. But then

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<v Speaker 1>over the weekend, his official spokesperson did confirm his death,

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<v Speaker 1>writing on x Alexi Navalny was murdered. We demand that

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<v Speaker 1>Alexi Navalne's body be handed over to his family immediately. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>according to Rud's, Navalny's family was told that he had

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<v Speaker 1>died of sudden death syndrome. And that's a pretty vague term,

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<v Speaker 1>but it basically means that he would have died suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>from a cardiac arress. But I think it's fair to

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<v Speaker 1>say that the world reaction is that Navalny didn't just

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<v Speaker 1>die suddenly, and this is certainly not being seen as

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<v Speaker 1>an accident.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just in regards to that global response, we've seen

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<v Speaker 2>a bit in Australia. Obviously in countries outside of Russia,

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation does not have to hide behind any of that.

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<v Speaker 2>So what are world leaders and other countries saying about this?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think it's unsurprising for anyone who is familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with this story that many Western world leaders, including Australias,

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<v Speaker 1>have blamed Pudin and his regime in no uncertain terms.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no ambiguity. There's not even the word allegedly

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<v Speaker 1>being used. These leaders are saying Putin is responsible. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>give you a few examples. So here's a short grab

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<v Speaker 1>of what US President Joe Biden said during a press

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<v Speaker 1>conference shortly after Navalne's death.

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<v Speaker 3>Make no mistake, Putin is responsible for Navalane's death. What

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<v Speaker 3>has happened in Navalne is yet more proof of Putin's brutality.

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<v Speaker 3>No one should before.

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<v Speaker 1>And a statement from the European Union said Navalney quote

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<v Speaker 1>was slowly murdered by President Putin and his regime, who

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<v Speaker 1>feel nothing more than dissent from their own people here

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia, like I said Prime Minister Anthony Alberanzi also

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<v Speaker 1>said Russia was responsible in no uncertain terms. He said

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<v Speaker 1>it is an appalling atrocity and that Navalley's treatment is

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<v Speaker 1>just beyond the pale, and we hold Vladimir Putin responsible

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<v Speaker 1>for that.

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<v Speaker 2>So, like I said, the conversation internationally can be as

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<v Speaker 2>critical of Putin as it wants. We know that for

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<v Speaker 2>Russian people in Russia that is not the same. So

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<v Speaker 2>what do we know about how the people of Russia

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<v Speaker 2>have responded to this. I saw some vision of some protests,

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<v Speaker 2>some arrests.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's fair to say that people are

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<v Speaker 1>really angry, and in a country like Russia, it's certainly

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<v Speaker 1>not easy to express that anger without being reprimanded. But

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<v Speaker 1>certainly they're not happy. So we've seen reports about police

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<v Speaker 1>temporarily detaining hundreds of mourners and placing some in jail.

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<v Speaker 1>I read a quote in a New York Times piece

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<v Speaker 1>about the arrests, and it was from a Russian sociologist,

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<v Speaker 1>Grigory Juden, who said, quote, grief is a collective action,

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<v Speaker 1>and any collective action is by definition political. In Russia,

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<v Speaker 1>if a collective activity is not ordered, it is basically prohibited.

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<v Speaker 1>So because protests are effectively banned in Russia, these gatherings

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<v Speaker 1>of mourners are being met by police action.

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<v Speaker 2>I also saw some footage of what I assume a

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<v Speaker 2>Russian authorities or local police with garbage bags going to

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<v Speaker 2>these sort of pop up memorials, floral tributes and just

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<v Speaker 2>packing them all away in garbage bags and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>moving on with Then those sites quickly repopulated by other

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<v Speaker 2>mourners with more tributes, so that cycle kind of just continues. Billy,

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<v Speaker 2>what do we know about Russia's response to this? Has

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<v Speaker 2>Putin said anything in regards to defending all this criticism,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, with all eyes on Russia, the international community

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<v Speaker 2>condemning what's happened, how have they responded.

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<v Speaker 1>So at the time of recording, Putin himself has not

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<v Speaker 1>said anything, which is perhaps not surprising. During Navalney's life,

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<v Speaker 1>Pudin actually acknowledged his existence very little publicly. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really say his name much at all. But we have

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<v Speaker 1>heard a spokesperson for the Kremlin say that Pudin has

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<v Speaker 1>been informed of Navalney's death, but there was no other

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<v Speaker 1>information about how he died anything like that. He did say, though,

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<v Speaker 1>that Russia's prison service is carrying out all the checks

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<v Speaker 1>and procedures in accordance with all the existing rules.

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<v Speaker 2>And like we said, there is an election in Russia

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<v Speaker 2>this year, next month actually, So given that Putin's main

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<v Speaker 2>opponent has died, what can we expect to happen there?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, there's not much else to say other

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<v Speaker 1>than what we've said, that there's an election next month.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, the country is run by an authoritarian regime,

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<v Speaker 1>like we've said, and elections are generally accepted as being undemocratic,

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<v Speaker 1>and that basically means that Pudin, who has been president

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<v Speaker 1>since twenty twelve and also between two thousand and two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and eight before that, he's almost certain to win.

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<v Speaker 1>There really is no competition and here for I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I really should say when he does win, he will

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<v Speaker 1>be in power until at least twenty thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we will certainly be keeping an eye on this one.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't look like these protests and arrests and memorials

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<v Speaker 2>are going away anytime soon, so it'll be fascinating to

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<v Speaker 2>watch how people in Russia on the ground respond, and

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<v Speaker 2>of course as we learn more about what happened to Navalni,

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<v Speaker 2>if his body is released, if his family are able

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<v Speaker 2>to conduct an autopsy. If there's any closure for them there.

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