1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Already and this this is the daily This is the 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: Daily OS. Oh, now it makes sense. Good morning, and 3 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: welcome to the Daily OS. It is Tuesday, the twentieth 4 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: of February. 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: I'm billy, I'm emma. 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: Over the weekend, Alexi Navalney, the most vocal critic of 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: Russian President Vladimir Putin, died in prison. 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: Russia's prison authorities have announced that the leading Kremlin critic, 9 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: Alexi Nevelni has died. Alexi date yesterday on sixteenth of 10 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 2: February at seventeen pm local time. 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 3: Putin is Responsible's death. Putin is responsible. 12 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: Navalney was in jails serving multiple sentences for crimes he 13 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: claimed were fabricated. Since the news of his death broke, 14 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: many Western leaders have been quick to blame the Russian 15 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: government for his death. In today's deep dive discussing who 16 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: Alexi noaval Nee was and why his death has such 17 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: significant global ramifications. But first, Emma, what's making him? 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: By Sydney casino, The Star will face the Independent Casino 19 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: Commission for a second time. A twenty twenty two inquiry 20 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,199 Speaker 2: said the Star was ineligible for a casino license after 21 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: it found evidence of money laundering, organized crime and fraud. 22 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: The Chief Commissioner said a follow up inquiry will determine 23 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: if the Star has properly addressed structural change to reduce misconduct. 24 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: The Star will need to prove a substantial shift in 25 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: its operations to ensure its original management is fit to 26 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: regain the casino license. The casino has been run by 27 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: an independent manager since that report was handed down. The 28 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: inquiry is expected to last almost four months, with the 29 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: final report due at the end of May. 30 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: Researchers at the Australian Nation University have found evidence to 31 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: debunk myths around the stereotypical smoker. The world first study 32 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: found that of the two point five million Aussies who 33 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: smoke daily, most are employed, educated and have good mental health. 34 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: Using data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics, the report 35 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: found sixty percent of Australian smokers a men, sixty five 36 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: percent live in major cities, and ninety two percent of 37 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 1: smokers are non indigenous. 38 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: Seventy firefighters have responded to a factory fire in France 39 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: that burned through nine hundred tons of highly flammable lithium 40 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: batteries over the weekend. The blaze at a recycling and 41 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: storage facility near Toulouse in southern France sent thick black 42 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: smoke into the air as it burned through thousands of 43 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: lithium batteries. The batteries are commonly used in electric vehicles, phones, 44 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: laptops and tablets. In Australia, faulty lithium batteries have been 45 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: blamed for a string of recent fires, particularly from e bikes. 46 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: And Today's Good News. In a sweeping measure to solve 47 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: plastic waste, a small business in Cambodia has found a 48 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: way to upcycle plastic bottles into brooms. Plastic bottles can 49 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: be recycled in bulk by cutting old plastic bottles into 50 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: thin strips to create the brooms bristles, which are then 51 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: tied to a bamboo stick. In almost a year, the 52 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: business has upcycled around fifty tons of plastic bottles to 53 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: create almost five hundred brooms a day, so Billy. 54 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: Late on Friday evening, it was announced that Alexi Navalni, 55 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: who was Russia's main opposition leader the main critic of 56 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: Putin and his government, died in jail at the age 57 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: of forty seven. Navalne was famous not just in Russia 58 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: but all around the world for being President Vladimir Putin's 59 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: most vocal critic. So I think to start us off, 60 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: we need to talk about exactly who Alexinovalni was. 61 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was quite shocking news to wake up to 62 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: on Saturday morning. I feel like it's something that we've 63 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: known could potentially happen, but still I think when it 64 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: does happen, it feels shocking. 65 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people felt that way, like 66 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,239 Speaker 2: a long time coming potentially in terms of the risk 67 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: and the risks that he had taken. But yeah, exactly, 68 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: I think a similar emotional response for probably a lot 69 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: of our audience. 70 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's talk about who he was. So he 71 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: first rose to prominence in the two thousands for blogging 72 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: online about the corruption he believed to be widespread in Russia, 73 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: and certainly he's not alone in that belief. In doing 74 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: research for this, I came across this quote from twenty 75 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: and eleven, which I think really speaks to exactly what 76 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: he believed then and certainly believed as the years went on. 77 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: So he told Reuters at the time, quote corruption is 78 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: the foundation of contemporary Russia. It is a foundation of 79 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: mister Putin's political power. I would like to be president, 80 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: but there are no elections in Russia. 81 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 3: Now. 82 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: He went on to be the most successful opponent to Pudin, 83 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: and we've said that he was the opposition leader, but 84 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: he actually never was able to run for office, and 85 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: that's because Russia has an authoritative government, which is exactly 86 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: what Navalni was so passionate about criticizing and changing, but 87 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: clearly wasn't able to do that. In the last presidential 88 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: election in twenty eighteen, he did try, but he was 89 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: formally barred from running due to a fraud conviction, which 90 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: was widely viewed as politically motivated. So people widely said 91 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: that the Russian government just did this to stop him 92 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: from ever being able to run against Pudin, as opposed 93 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: to it being a credible conviction. 94 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 2: I think we also need to point out here that 95 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: Putin and the Kremlin Russian officials would argue against the 96 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 2: notion that Russia does not conduct elections. There is an 97 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: election coming this year. The question is, and the argument 98 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: from Navalni from the years that he was active in 99 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: Russian politics, has always been that those elections are not 100 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: free and fair, that they are a front to give 101 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: the illusion of free democracy, but that the results are 102 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: guaranteed and that the power stays in the hands of 103 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 2: Vladimir Putin. 104 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: And certainly without a opposition, you can't really have a 105 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: fair election exactly, But let's keep going. You might also 106 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: know this was massive news at the time that in 107 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty Navalny was actually poisoned. 108 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: I do remember this. There was a series of poisonings 109 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 2: around that time. I think people listening have probably heard 110 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: the word Novachuk a few times. What can you tell 111 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 2: me about that incident, specifically, what happened to Nevalni? 112 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: Yes, So, in twenty twenty Navalny became violently ill after 113 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: boarding a flight to Moscow, and that was very sudden. 114 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: At the time, there weren't really any symptoms before now. 115 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: He was treated by doctors in Germany and they had 116 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: no idea what happened at the time, But the German 117 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: government later announced that he had been poisoned by Russia 118 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: in an attempt to silence him. The then German leader 119 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: Angela Merkle said he had been the victim of a crime, 120 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: and she said it raised questions only the Russian government 121 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: can answer. 122 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: Now. 123 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: Of course, Pruden denied any involvement in that. But since 124 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, Navalni has been in prison, serving multiple 125 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: prison sentences, including a nineteen year sentence for extremism, and 126 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: he again said all of those cases against him were 127 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: completely fabricated and had no credibility behind them. Despite being 128 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: in prison, though, that did not stop him from campaigning 129 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: for what he believed in. For example, he was a 130 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: staunch opponent of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, and he certainly 131 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: kept campaigning for that to end while he was in jail. 132 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: Going back to that poisoning incident, you said, Billy, that 133 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: he was treated in Germany. The German government announced or 134 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: accused Russia of poisoning him. Of course, Navalny ended up 135 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: back in Russia, back behind bars, and that was because 136 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: he passionately believed so much in the importance of that 137 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: opposition existing in Russia. He could have stayed in Germany, 138 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 2: he could have lived in exile, but he went back 139 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 2: to face those charges, and that's ultimately why he ended 140 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 2: up in jailen and in jail is where he died. 141 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: So we know he was a staunch critic of the Kremlin. 142 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: He had survived this previous attack. What do we know 143 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: about his death. What happened on the weekend. 144 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: So his death was announced in an extremely vague statement 145 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: from the prison service in the region where he was 146 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: in jail, and it said convict Alexi Navalny felt unwell 147 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: after a war, almost immediately losing consciousness. All necessary resuscitation 148 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: measures were carried out, which did not yield positive results. 149 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: Doctors of the ambulance stated the death of the convict. Now, initially, 150 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: Navalny's representatives actually couldn't confirm his death, but they said 151 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: that if it was true, he was killed. But then 152 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: over the weekend, his official spokesperson did confirm his death, 153 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: writing on x Alexi Navalny was murdered. We demand that 154 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: Alexi Navalne's body be handed over to his family immediately. Now, 155 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: according to Rud's, Navalny's family was told that he had 156 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: died of sudden death syndrome. And that's a pretty vague term, 157 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: but it basically means that he would have died suddenly 158 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: from a cardiac arress. But I think it's fair to 159 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: say that the world reaction is that Navalny didn't just 160 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: die suddenly, and this is certainly not being seen as 161 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: an accident. 162 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, just in regards to that global response, we've seen 163 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: a bit in Australia. Obviously in countries outside of Russia, 164 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: the conversation does not have to hide behind any of that. 165 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: So what are world leaders and other countries saying about this? 166 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: Well, I think it's unsurprising for anyone who is familiar 167 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: with this story that many Western world leaders, including Australias, 168 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: have blamed Pudin and his regime in no uncertain terms. 169 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: There is no ambiguity. There's not even the word allegedly 170 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: being used. These leaders are saying Putin is responsible. I'll 171 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: give you a few examples. So here's a short grab 172 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: of what US President Joe Biden said during a press 173 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: conference shortly after Navalne's death. 174 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 3: Make no mistake, Putin is responsible for Navalane's death. What 175 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 3: has happened in Navalne is yet more proof of Putin's brutality. 176 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: No one should before. 177 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: And a statement from the European Union said Navalney quote 178 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 1: was slowly murdered by President Putin and his regime, who 179 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: feel nothing more than dissent from their own people here 180 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: in Australia, like I said Prime Minister Anthony Alberanzi also 181 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: said Russia was responsible in no uncertain terms. He said 182 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: it is an appalling atrocity and that Navalley's treatment is 183 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: just beyond the pale, and we hold Vladimir Putin responsible 184 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: for that. 185 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 2: So, like I said, the conversation internationally can be as 186 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: critical of Putin as it wants. We know that for 187 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 2: Russian people in Russia that is not the same. So 188 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: what do we know about how the people of Russia 189 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: have responded to this. I saw some vision of some protests, 190 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: some arrests. 191 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's fair to say that people are 192 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: really angry, and in a country like Russia, it's certainly 193 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: not easy to express that anger without being reprimanded. But 194 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: certainly they're not happy. So we've seen reports about police 195 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: temporarily detaining hundreds of mourners and placing some in jail. 196 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: I read a quote in a New York Times piece 197 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: about the arrests, and it was from a Russian sociologist, 198 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: Grigory Juden, who said, quote, grief is a collective action, 199 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: and any collective action is by definition political. In Russia, 200 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: if a collective activity is not ordered, it is basically prohibited. 201 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: So because protests are effectively banned in Russia, these gatherings 202 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: of mourners are being met by police action. 203 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 2: I also saw some footage of what I assume a 204 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: Russian authorities or local police with garbage bags going to 205 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 2: these sort of pop up memorials, floral tributes and just 206 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: packing them all away in garbage bags and you know, 207 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: moving on with Then those sites quickly repopulated by other 208 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 2: mourners with more tributes, so that cycle kind of just continues. Billy, 209 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: what do we know about Russia's response to this? Has 210 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: Putin said anything in regards to defending all this criticism, 211 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 2: you know, with all eyes on Russia, the international community 212 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 2: condemning what's happened, how have they responded. 213 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: So at the time of recording, Putin himself has not 214 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: said anything, which is perhaps not surprising. During Navalney's life, 215 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: Pudin actually acknowledged his existence very little publicly. He didn't 216 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: really say his name much at all. But we have 217 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: heard a spokesperson for the Kremlin say that Pudin has 218 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: been informed of Navalney's death, but there was no other 219 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: information about how he died anything like that. He did say, though, 220 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: that Russia's prison service is carrying out all the checks 221 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: and procedures in accordance with all the existing rules. 222 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: And like we said, there is an election in Russia 223 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: this year, next month actually, So given that Putin's main 224 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: opponent has died, what can we expect to happen there? 225 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there's not much else to say other 226 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: than what we've said, that there's an election next month. 227 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: Of course, the country is run by an authoritarian regime, 228 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: like we've said, and elections are generally accepted as being undemocratic, 229 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: and that basically means that Pudin, who has been president 230 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: since twenty twelve and also between two thousand and two 231 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: thousand and eight before that, he's almost certain to win. 232 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: There really is no competition and here for I mean, 233 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: I really should say when he does win, he will 234 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: be in power until at least twenty thirty. 235 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: Well, we will certainly be keeping an eye on this one. 236 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 2: It doesn't look like these protests and arrests and memorials 237 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: are going away anytime soon, so it'll be fascinating to 238 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 2: watch how people in Russia on the ground respond, and 239 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: of course as we learn more about what happened to Navalni, 240 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: if his body is released, if his family are able 241 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: to conduct an autopsy. 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