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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Jonesy and Demander podcast. Late Apple

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Speaker 1: CEO Steve Jobs, the skivvywear quirky man. He was a

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Speaker 1: quirky guy. Invented the apple. The not the apple, the fruit,

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Speaker 1: but the computer.

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Speaker 2: Is that how that goes?

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Speaker 3: You've got to get a different charger for every year.

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Speaker 1: But he had a novel way of interviewing subjects when

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Speaker 1: they came to work for him, because no doubt a

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Speaker 1: lot of people would be star struck when they spoke

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Speaker 1: to Steve Jobs. So to break the trend of interviewees

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Speaker 1: showing it with a memorized list of answers giving basically

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Speaker 1: scripted responses.

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Speaker 3: He'd say, Hey, Dario, that's you and me, Dario, I've

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Speaker 3: just made that Yes, dari unlets you and me and

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Speaker 3: we'll go and have a beer. And well, I shoot

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Speaker 3: breeze Steve Jobs did?

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Speaker 2: He was famously socially awkward.

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Speaker 3: Well, I find are you having a beer with.

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Speaker 2: Your boss when he's socially awkward.

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Speaker 3: Already in Australia.

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Speaker 1: You'll have a beer with anyone, it doesn't matter, Sma

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Speaker 1: bin Laden. Sure mate, let's go have a beer. What's

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Speaker 1: with the turban?

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Speaker 2: Do I get the job, get it?

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Speaker 1: What do I have to do? But it's a good

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Speaker 1: way of doing because what would happen? You go for

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Speaker 1: a walk to get the beer. So as you're walking

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Speaker 1: to get the beer, that loosens the subject up a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Also takes away them being starstruck about hanging

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Speaker 1: out with Steve Jobs, because it would be intimidating. He's

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Speaker 1: there in the office with the skiving.

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Speaker 2: What if you're not a drinker? What if you're want

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Speaker 2: a beer drinker? What happens then? Because that behind the

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Speaker 2: eight ball already.

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Speaker 3: Then he'd ask them questions, you know, what did you

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Speaker 3: do last summer?

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Speaker 2: What did you do last summer? You're accusing me of murder?

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Speaker 2: What a weird question? What did you do last summer?

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Speaker 3: Because what do you wanted to do?

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Speaker 2: Went to the shop?

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Speaker 3: Steve Jobs would get all the A players together.

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Speaker 1: What he said was, if you get enough A players together,

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Speaker 1: when you go through the incredible job of finding these

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Speaker 1: A players, it's really like working with each other because

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Speaker 1: they've never had that chance to do before.

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Speaker 3: So you get an A team and.

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Speaker 2: They do a human pyramid in the office before No.

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Speaker 3: That's eight is enough. Think of the ah, mister T. B.

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Speaker 3: A bracas is in there.

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Speaker 2: He has to make sure someone's got the jewelry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got the face, man, you've got the you know,