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Speaker 1: My Heart podcasts, hear more kids podcasts, playlists, and listen

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Speaker 2: Hello, Ales, are you good man?

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for cutting your sound check a

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Speaker 1: little short or step, you know why.

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: We're practicing right now for the MTV Awards. Crazy schedule

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Speaker 3: with with touring stuff, we actually don't get any proper rehearsals,

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Speaker 3: so I've been using sound checks as rehearsals.

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Speaker 2: Oh, crafty two for one, that's genius.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, then you can dial in your ear mix, but

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Speaker 3: also get to learn the new because we do so

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Speaker 3: many variations of ordinary, especially for TV.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, right, that's great. It's almost like when you

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Speaker 4: go to go and have a shower and then you

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Speaker 4: realize you also need to do a poop and you're like,

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Speaker 4: I can do two for one in here the time,

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Speaker 4: and if.

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Speaker 3: You leave the shower on the hottest setting, it's almost

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Speaker 3: like a makeshift steam room.

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Speaker 4: I agree.

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Speaker 1: Now we're talking, and now that's that's three birds one stone.

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Speaker 3: You got a multitask.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's really good. I would I've never actually

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Speaker 4: done that. I mean in Australia, it's a bit of

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Speaker 4: a thing about water restrictions. So I think it'd be

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Speaker 4: found upon if I had the hot water running for

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Speaker 4: ten minutes where I took a shit.

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Speaker 3: But it is if you close the door, and I

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Speaker 3: never did that in California with all.

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Speaker 2: The water restracts now from steaming poos.

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Speaker 1: Alex to a story about you that I truly, truly love.

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Speaker 1: I heard my friend that before you got into the industry,

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Speaker 1: you used to DM celebrities on social media.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The best bit about this for mine is that you

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Speaker 1: then obviously get into the industry, you become world famous,

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Speaker 1: but weirdly you make the decision to not delete those

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Speaker 1: dms to people that you.

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Speaker 2: Now kind of know. It's awesome, Okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: So, and I believe there's an example of Lewis Capaldi

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Speaker 1: talking to you or finding the DM from you from

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Speaker 1: before you were famous.

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: So I not technically I DMD Lewis. There is a

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Speaker 3: like he was my first concert I ever went to.

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Speaker 3: So I did tag him in the story and I

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Speaker 3: never deleted it. It says Alex warn't tagged Lewis Pauley,

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Speaker 3: and then right underneath it, Lewis followed me back, and

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Speaker 3: so I sent him a photo of me on the

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Speaker 3: toilet while the steam was going, cantioned it. I captioned it,

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Speaker 3: I've been waiting for you and it's great.

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Speaker 4: It's great.

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Speaker 1: Who else were you dming before you're in the industry.

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Speaker 3: I was just I don't know why I did it.

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Speaker 3: I would just DM everyone and be like I love

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Speaker 3: your song, or like I love your work. One of

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Speaker 3: them would see it and be like thanks man. I

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Speaker 3: remember dming Ed Sheeran asking him if he wanted to

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Speaker 3: be on my first song ever when I was like

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Speaker 3: sixteen or something.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah he didn't do it.

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Speaker 2: Spoiler a lotoiler.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I think a lot of people

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Speaker 3: get in this position and they pretend that they're the cool,

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Speaker 3: mysterious musician, and I like the idea that like, these

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Speaker 3: people know that I've like grown up watching Like Sean

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Speaker 3: Men is another person where like I've told him to

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Speaker 3: his face that he's like the reason why, one of

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Speaker 3: the reasons why I got into music and felt like

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Speaker 4: That is really cool.

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Speaker 2: You're also fast forward.

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Speaker 1: I is Alex and you're performing at a secret pop

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Speaker 1: up Coachella show.

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Speaker 2: With Ed seron crazy, right? Is that just constantly a

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Speaker 2: pinch yourself? Am I dreaming moment?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been something really cool where like especially edlas

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Speaker 3: for me, where it's always just been like I hope

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Speaker 3: these things, and he is such an inspiration to the

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Speaker 3: I feel like in this industry, everyone's got an ego

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Speaker 3: That's why I treat everyone the same. Because Ed Sharon

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Speaker 3: worked so much and it has done so much, and

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Speaker 3: he could literally tell everyone to piss off, but he doesn't.

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Speaker 3: He's very kind.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great.

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Speaker 4: We did a podcast about this the other day, which, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was just because you're good doesn't mean you have

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Speaker 4: to be a bitch, and just because you're a bitch

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Speaker 4: doesn't make you good.

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Speaker 3: Very wow. I love that.

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Speaker 2: It's good.

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Speaker 4: It's actually not mine. I actually got it off. Do

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Speaker 4: you know this is Jane country singer Casey Chambers. No,

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Speaker 4: I should have listened to her.

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Speaker 4: She got inducted into the Hall of Fame in the

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Speaker 4: Arias and she got up on stage and was like,

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Speaker 4: I've always been led by this thing. My mom told

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Speaker 4: me just because you're good doesn't mean you have to

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Speaker 4: be a bitch, and just because your bitch doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: It's awesome.

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Speaker 4: I've always remember, Wow, Yeah, I love you. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it is good stuff. Hey man, you were talking about

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Speaker 4: Sewn Mendees being an inspiration to gett music. But I've

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Speaker 4: also been somewhere that if your father hadn't passed away,

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Speaker 4: you wouldn't have discovered your passion for music.

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Speaker 2: Is that is that true?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, at least that's what I believe. And

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Speaker 3: my dad knew he was dying when I was born,

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Speaker 3: would every week do these talent shows. And I had

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Speaker 3: a guitar. I was obsessed with The Naked Brothers. Man,

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Speaker 3: if you know what that is. It was a TV

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Speaker 3: it didn't hit me until I was like thirteen or fourteen,

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Speaker 3: sorry and goodbye. And I never got to say goodbye

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Speaker 3: to my dad. I was nine. I didn't understand what

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Speaker 3: was called well More I Love You on a piano

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Speaker 3: and my music career is shaped because of it. My

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Speaker 3: love life is shaped because of it. I've strived to

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Speaker 3: hopefully I'll do it.

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Speaker 2: I reckon you will. Bee. Have you met you for

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Speaker 2: about ten minutes? I reckon You'll be a great father?

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Speaker 2: Am I right?

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Speaker 1: And also saying Alex that you you were homeless for

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Speaker 1: a period of time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was about four to six months. I

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Speaker 3: was sleeping in I was sleeping in a car. I

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Speaker 3: got a beat up salvaged Vulva wagon and nice left

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Speaker 3: my wife.

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Speaker 2: So ordinary is about your wife?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Coover? Is that how I pronounce her name?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay cool.

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Speaker 4: So so you're in the car with her wait, I

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Speaker 4: don't want a nitpick, but this came up. Correct me

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Speaker 4: if I'm wrong. You're talking to her online out of home.

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Speaker 4: There's lots going on. You're in the car, she's in Hawaii.

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Speaker 4: She then comes over and lives with you in the car.

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Question from the floor, and this just came out natural.

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Speaker 2: Question does she have a home in Hawaii?

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Speaker 4: Why did she come to live with you in the

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Speaker 3: She had dropped out of college and she had fully

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Speaker 3: her parents hated me because of that. She had dropped

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Speaker 3: and she said let's do it, and slept in a

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Speaker 2: She became homeless for you.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Yes, she dropped out of college, home and stuff. So

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Speaker 3: it's not like she had a home in Hawaii and

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Speaker 3: they would have totally accepted that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but she chose and she couldn't.

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Speaker 3: Be with me. Pretty much.

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Speaker 4: Whoa, that's so much cooler.

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Speaker 3: Beautiful, that's coul No one never asked that question. No,

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Speaker 3: Like I've said this story a little while, no one

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Speaker 1: But when you're both sleeping in the car by the way,

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Speaker 2: What's your favorite meal when you when you're on the road.

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Speaker 3: There's a peanut butter jars. That's peanut butter and jelly.

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Speaker 3: Well it would already come pre mixed. Oh wow, but

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Speaker 3: you just you have pbmjs for days and it's like.

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Speaker 1: That, it's late, it's perfect of the things I lived on.

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Speaker 1: What's your rider for like a gig coming up? You're

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Speaker 1: at Margaret Corderena tonight. What's what's in your room? What

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Speaker 3: Well, typically my rider is a PPM J.

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Speaker 2: Actually really it still is. On the road. You are

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Speaker 2: now eating in the stadium.

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Speaker 3: That's great, throwing like hard boiled eggs sometimes not together

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Speaker 3: or that would be good though.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I usually have like vegetables and my wife,

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Speaker 3: like I always put flowers for my wife and chickens,

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Speaker 3: just like try to eat healthy, but then PDAJ is

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Speaker 3: a quick option.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nice love.

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Speaker 4: The producers are running me a note saying stop talking

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Speaker 4: about food, talk about music.

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Speaker 2: So that's fair. That's good feedback. That's good live feedback

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Speaker 2: that we're receiving. I'm getting on mine.

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Speaker 4: Oh we don't mind either, man, But we're just puppets

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Speaker 4: for the man here. So let's we've got a brand

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Speaker 4: new song we're gonna be playing that we actually haven't

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Speaker 4: played here on willim Woody yet.

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Speaker 2: I know it's not a brand new song.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna be playing Eternity, So don't talk to us

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Speaker 4: little bit more about eternity before we play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean funny enough. That sounds about grief and

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Speaker 3: kind of overcoming the fact that I, you know, my

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Speaker 3: That was the last conversation I've read, and my dad

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Speaker 2: So oh, so this.

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Speaker 3: Is that song. That song is just kind of just

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Speaker 2: So WHOA is that hard to perform? Alex?

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Speaker 3: It was the other day I posted this video. The

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Speaker 3: I was having a really I caught something when I

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Speaker 3: a little bit of a sickness and I wasn't going

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Speaker 3: to perform it. It's a hard song, was singing, and

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Speaker 2: I guess WHOA anyway, here it is. Listen to meme out.

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Speaker 2: That's all radio. That's a good pivot, Alex. You get it.

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Speaker 2: I got you pivoted for me. I wasn't looking forward

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Speaker 3: Here we go.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. It's been so nice to meet you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks me.

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Speaker 3: So I love I love talking about p B and

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Speaker 3: J's and Steve. I'd love to come into the place

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Speaker 3: and be able touch in his face.

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Speaker 2: We all love that.

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Speaker 4: Good luck with the shows. Congratulations and everything. Dude, it's

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Speaker 4: a it's a humbling and and and an inspiring story.

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Speaker 4: I really truly where you are and who you are

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Speaker 4: is really beautiful. Mate. So congratulations you too, brother Alex