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Speaker 1: Cindy Lauper.

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Speaker 2: She's bringing her show to town at the RC Arena

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Speaker 2: April twelve. It's the last time. It's the farewell Tour.

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Speaker 2: Tickets are available through ticket Tech and Cindy's with us. Now.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, good morning, How are you good?

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Speaker 1: God, we're going it's going good. It's going good.

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Speaker 4: No, you're coming.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Perth is excited because you're on the way. It

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Speaker 2: is your farewell tour. What made you decide now is

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Speaker 2: the right time to stop?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Because I can do this show. Well, yep, that's why.

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Speaker 3: And because my voice is in good shape, and because

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Speaker 3: you know the songs. My songs are not easy peasy,

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Speaker 3: you know. And I just want to be able to,

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Speaker 3: you know, sing and be proud. You know. I'm strong now.

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Speaker 3: You know, you don't know what happens. And I'm seventy one,

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Speaker 3: you know, so you don't know in a couple of

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Speaker 3: years what you're going to be like. I have no idea. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so I thought this was good to do now, and

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Speaker 3: then I'll go and finished work and girl, Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: then I finish working, girl, and I have one other project,

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Speaker 3: and you know I want to see my family.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, of course I think that's fair enough.

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Speaker 4: Good to the voice you still got that fellows very

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Speaker 4: difficult songs to sing. But city are you're a gym person,

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Speaker 4: how do you steinshak the rest of the body.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, first you have to do your PET

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Speaker 3: and then after you do you PT. You are going

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Speaker 3: to do the waight, but I try and do the

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Speaker 3: way to a little yoga. It takes like the PT

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Speaker 3: takes a long time. Sometimes that could take an hour,

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Speaker 3: and then from there you do you have to also

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Speaker 3: do aerobics because you need the vegas nerve system, and

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Speaker 3: you know, after you finish, I would say it's like

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Speaker 3: two hours thing. And then the singing is an hour

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Speaker 3: and a half. And then you go to work and

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Speaker 3: you do the sound check and then you have to

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Speaker 3: warm up a little, won't back down, you know, and

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Speaker 3: then warm up again before you go on stage. You

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Speaker 3: know this way you're an athlete when you do this.

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Speaker 4: That's a lot of prep.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a guitar play never changes the stream.

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Speaker 3: How good do you think that guitar's going to sound?

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Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, exactly. Now we we read that preparation for

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Speaker 1: a show.

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Speaker 2: After you've done all that, then there's the preparing backstage

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Speaker 2: in your in your room.

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Speaker 1: And we heard that you always listen.

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Speaker 2: To female artists before going on stage. Who's on your

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Speaker 2: your current playlist, who you're obsessed with right now?

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Speaker 3: Well it's not me. I play it for the arena, okay,

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Speaker 3: Well everybody, you know, older artists, younger artists, the one

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Speaker 3: that I find, you know, on the streaming service that

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Speaker 3: are used. And I also, you know, I look for

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Speaker 3: stuff and listen and usually I can't mention names of

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Speaker 3: things like Spotify things like that, but that's what I

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Speaker 3: you know, I go and see what new music there is.

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Speaker 3: It listens to you know, Oh, this is a cool

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Speaker 3: female singer. I think that's the first time I heard

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Speaker 3: Chapel Rome was on Spotify and it was last year

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Speaker 3: and I was looking for, you know, new female singers.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think it's really important to you know,

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Speaker 3: promote new artists and especially female singers because I'm a

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Speaker 3: female singer, so you know, why not. And the Veronicas

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Speaker 3: are going to be with us, and it's going to

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Speaker 3: be a lot of fun. You know. It's actually a

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Speaker 3: really good celebration. I mean, the people that come usually

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Speaker 3: to our shows, they get dressed up. We even sell

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Speaker 3: these wigs. We close wigs, so anybody but join, join

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Speaker 3: the party, and all the proceeds go to the girls.

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Speaker 3: Just want to have fundamental Rite fund which helps women

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Speaker 3: or promote, you know, organizations. We donate to organizations that

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Speaker 3: for women's health, they take room, heelth and and their

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Speaker 3: civil rights. And that's what we do. And and you know,

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Speaker 3: it's been it's been working out good. We got even

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Speaker 3: a new T shirt, you know, right, And I think

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Speaker 3: that you know, in the spirit of hey, rock and

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Speaker 3: roll can save the world, I think, you know, that's

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Speaker 3: it's the wonderful community to be part of, and so

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Speaker 3: we help each other, you know.

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Speaker 4: Also, some footage of a race show people were going

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Speaker 4: blue wigs, and I went, good on you, dude.

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Speaker 3: That's the whole thing that's so wild. There's like a

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Speaker 3: like a little haven for everybody, and they just we

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Speaker 3: come together and sing, dance, laugh, cry, you know, and

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Speaker 3: usually people always leave really happy, and that's the most

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Speaker 3: important anything. You gotta have a little joy, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, can we talk about girls just want to have

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Speaker 1: fun for a moment? The song originally written.

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Speaker 2: By has but you changed some of the lyrics to

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Speaker 2: put your spin on it.

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Speaker 1: How did that go down? Did that? Was that? Was

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Speaker 1: or was it okay?

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Speaker 3: You know, the whole thing was that Rick cand be

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Speaker 3: a storm and one of them was girls just want

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Speaker 3: to have fun? But you know guy wrote it, and

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Speaker 3: also Robert Hazard if you listened to his work, and

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Speaker 3: he was really doing very well, and he did a

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Speaker 3: kind of for me. It was kind of like, yes,

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Speaker 3: that was my doging ping used to pel, but he's not.

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Speaker 3: It's just wishful anyway, Yeah, she she heard a dog

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Speaker 3: as you know, probably pongo go say the puppy snow.

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Speaker 3: I don't know anyway. The people that come are all

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Speaker 3: different agents, and everybody comes to have a good time,

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Speaker 3: and you know we uh, it's it's for me. It's

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Speaker 3: it's been an interesting show. You know, it's almost the

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Speaker 3: show itself took on its own thing, you know, and

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Speaker 3: it's amazing to be part of it. But yet I

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Speaker 3: was able to keep the intimacy between the audience and us.

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Speaker 3: You know that we're still connected. Because sometimes if you

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Speaker 3: have a big show, it's bigger than you, you know,

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Speaker 3: and it's just a big show. And so I was

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Speaker 3: I partnered it up. I had a you know, and

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Speaker 3: why I didn't do it before, But I got a

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Speaker 3: wonderful creative director named Brian Burke who did a lot

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Speaker 3: of great stuff. He also worked and was trained by

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Speaker 3: and you know, when you start to talk about creative stuff.

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Speaker 3: an artist collective because it's performance art. So there's a

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Speaker 3: collaboration with Yayuei Kusama, there's a collaboration with Daniel Wurtzel

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Speaker 3: that it's very inspired by Sonya Delaney, and there's a

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Speaker 3: that was important to me, using color, using visuals because

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Speaker 3: when I came out, that was so important to me.

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Speaker 3: Then to because it was great to be part of

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Speaker 3: a generation where you would no longer just listen to

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Speaker 3: part of that was amazing for me, you know. I

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Speaker 3: mean got to say when I first came to Australia,

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Speaker 3: the head of the company was a Dennis Handling. Yes,

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Speaker 3: he was like at that time in nineteen eighty three,

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Speaker 3: And it was strange then too, because remember in those days,

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Speaker 3: have fun. They had come out before I got there.

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Speaker 3: But it was it was kind of me because I

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Speaker 3: but we did all kinds of crazy things, and you know,

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Speaker 4: Fishos know, was Mully around because he was he was

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Speaker 4: contributing too.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he was awesome, and he also had these like

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Speaker 3: it was really great. I mean, he was really great.

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Speaker 3: Back then. It was like it was an unbelievable experience

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Speaker 3: But it was also you know, it was funny, always laughing,

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Speaker 3: people that I'm collaborating with now, like it's not exactly

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Speaker 3: a collaboration with going joint is because we couldn't really

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Speaker 3: I you know, I actually studied sometimes. So I was

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Speaker 3: kind of talk her and Matisse and Picasso into doing

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Speaker 3: that's just because that's what we were doing. And so

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Speaker 3: the idea of mixing the media's and also having Brian

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say goodbye. At least let me say goodbye

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Speaker 3: as myself. And what I always dreams the kind of

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Speaker 1: The other way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like a modern day.

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Speaker 1: Cindy.

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Speaker 2: There's not much I love more than a good documentary.

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Speaker 2: And The Greatest Night in Pop is one of the

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Speaker 2: best I've ever seen. It was such a such an uplifting,

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Speaker 2: wonderful thing to watch. But how funny the scene where

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Speaker 2: Quincy Jones is trying to work out what's that sound?

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Speaker 1: What's that noise? And it's your prices?

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Speaker 3: Now I know. I know. The thing is I had

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Speaker 3: Well you hope for that, don't you? Just you don't

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: Well, can I tell you, Cindy, you know when you

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Speaker 1: There's a song that sort of is the it's just

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Speaker 2: Well, I've finished high school in nineteen eighty four. I

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Speaker 1: So thank you for that. We can't wait to see

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Speaker 4: With the Varonasics, and then we'll see you in the

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Speaker 4: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Yes you're gonna be.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna be in crossed.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, good bye, all right bye.

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