WEBVTT - Matthew Hussey does give a f*** about your relationship 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.800 Life Uncut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose lands 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:06.560 were never seated. We pay our respects to their elders 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:07.600 past and present. 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:11.399 Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:23.880 recorded on de rug Wallamata Land. Hi guys, and welcome 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:25.520 back to another episode of Life on Cut. 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:27.080 I'm Laura and I'm Brittany. 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:30.200 And on today's episode, we have the one and only 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:32.240 the man, the myth, the legend. 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:33.120 Matthew Hussy. 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:36.720 Now, if you haven't come across Matthew Hussey, he's a 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:39.920 New York Times bestselling author Forget the Guy. He has 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:43.600 the number one YouTube channel for dating advice with four 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:47.720 hundred and eighty nine million views. He's got one point 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:51.320 five million followers on Instagram. I've been looking to him 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:54.360 for years for dating advice. I love him, I'm obsessed 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:57.160 with him, and I'm so excited. I just love him 0:00:57.200 --> 0:00:58.280 in a non weird way. 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:01.000 To bring him to you today. 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:04.000 We also wanted to talk about some new laws that 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:05.720 have come out of France. Now, I know that you 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:07.600 might be thinking, hey, didn't I hear this a couple 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:09.920 of weeks ago. It's not those laws. It's not the 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:12.560 social media and child laws. It's the new ones that 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:14.000 they have around influencers. 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:15.959 They have more. They hate us. 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:19.160 They are bringing out laws against influencers where they could 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:21.760 go to jail for up to two years or be 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:25.520 charged forty eight thousand dollars for not disclosing that they 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:28.440 are retouching or editing their photos. And we think it's 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:31.959 pretty wild. Let's get into it, and we are coming 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:36.840 from cross continents, brit Is currently in Scotland, back reunited 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:39.080 with the man who's trying to tear us apart. 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:42.959 All of a sudden that song in my head side 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:48.800 a plane, and he will never tear us apart. Yes, 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:53.600 I am cross continent, and I am excuse my French 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:56.160 because I'm in Scotland. I am jet lagged as fuck. 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:59.960 I am so incredibly the most jetlagged I have been 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:02.880 ever in my entire life in anywhere in the world. 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:05.680 Well, it's like eleven o'clock over there now it's seven 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:08.239 point thirty in the morning here. And this just gives 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:10.480 me wild anxiety about how we will ever do this 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:13.640 podcast if you were to actually ever consider moving to Scotland. 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:15.720 But you know that's a conversation that is not for now. 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:18.840 Put it that way anyway, We're not fine about that now. 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:23.560 Yeah, tell us, how has it been a What was 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.480 it like the first moment you saw each other after 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:27.680 several months apart? 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:32.480 Well, there was no like time stood still, slow motion running. 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:35.680 There was no background music as we slow motion rend 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:37.000 into each other's arms. 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:38.239 So it definitely wasn't like that. 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:41.280 But I have this like obsession with trying to scare Ben, 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:43.880 like hiding all over the house. I go to the 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:46.680 lengths of pretending I'm not home. I messy Jim when 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:48.560 he's on his way home usually and I'm like, hey, 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:51.120 just ducking out for a coffee. I'll prop you back 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:52.280 like half an hour after your home. 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:53.480 How old are you. 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:59.959 It's become an obsession because he's impossible to ski. 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:02.320 I went to the next level this time. When he 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:05.480 came home. I went outside into the garden. When you 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:08.480 have to come out, it's like a little underground cement walkway, 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:10.600 which is actually very scary in itself, and I tried 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:11.680 to hide in there to scare him. 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.359 And that was our first moment. Our first moment was me. 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:15.799 Trying to be like, oh wow, I jump out of 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:18.440 the bushes and it didn't really work, but it's been 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:20.360 really nice. But to be honest, I feel like I've 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:23.600 barely seen him. So when I got here, he had 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:26.200 a day off. We went to Edinburgh. We had this beautiful, 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:29.600 little romantic day and it was a really amazing first 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:31.840 day together. And then he's just gone away playing and 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:35.400 he's back to normal scheduling. So I have just been 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:37.640 on my own, which is really hard in Scotland because 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:38.720 I don't know anyone anymore. 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.240 But Ben thought it was very considerate. 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:43.480 He thought he would set me up on like a date, 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:46.080 like a friend date, saw some friends for me. 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:48.640 He was like, I'm gonna be gone, but here's somebody 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:49.760 and you can hang out with here. 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:51.120 She is yeah. 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:53.880 So he's like, hey, I've sort of become friends with 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:55.840 the neighbor Alex, and. 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:59.000 I was like, oh cool. He's like yeah, he's really nice. 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:02.120 We got chatting and he and his partner know you're 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:04.400 coming and they're really excited. They looked you up on 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:07.119 Instagram and they're always home, like they're working from home. 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:09.000 They want to be friends and so they said you 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:10.680 can go for coffee, they can take you into town, 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:12.200 you can do all this stuff and hang out. And 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:15.120 I was like, that's amazing. Anyway, I was getting all 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:18.159 ready for this friend date. There's a buzzer on the 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:22.240 door and I go to answer it and there's a 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:25.279 man standing there and I'm like hello. He's like hi, 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:28.800 and he's standing there with a bottle of wine and 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:32.080 like a strawberry tart and I was like hi. He's 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.599 like Brittany, and I was like that's correct. I was like, 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.000 do you have a delivery? And he's like, this is 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:40.000 a sixty six year old gay man and he's like no, 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.400 I'm Alex and I was like sorry. He's like, I'm 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:46.200 Alex from next door. The friend date Alex, Ben didn't 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:46.600 tell me. 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:48.799 Is a sixty six year old gay man that lives 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:49.440 next door. 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:52.039 So now my two new best friends, my. 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:56.159 Two new best friends in Scotland. 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:59.040 He's just mid to late sixties year old man that 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:01.160 I get to go to you have wine with, say 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:03.280 they brought me a wine and a cake over for 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:06.039 the initial meet and greet date, and now they're my 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:06.840 new best friends. 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:09.120 So I was like, Ben, did it occur to you 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:12.280 even once? Just to mention that they were nearly seventy? 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:15.960 I was like, doesn't matter, does not matter, But in 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:16.640 my head. 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.960 In my head, I had pictured like mid to late twenties, 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:21.760 want to go out, have a party, want to. 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:22.599 Go have some fun. 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:24.880 My favorite part is that he met these people and 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:26.920 then was like, you know who's going to get along 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:29.920 with them? So well, I'm not even gonna have to 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:33.160 give her a heads up. They're gonna jump. She's an 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:33.720 old soul. 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:35.760 Anyway, they're my new friends. 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:38.360 I went over, actually I did go over twice today, 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:40.440 but the unfortunately they went home today. 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:43.120 So I I'm really going to try and ride this 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:44.320 friendship into the sunset. 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.520 Okay, how do you cope knowing that when you get there, 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:50.400 I mean even though you're on holidays, you're there. Then 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:52.839 Ben is training every day and you're not just like, Okay, 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:54.440 I came here for you and now you're not here? 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:55.719 Can you come home now? 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:56.080 Or are you? 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:58.000 Like? It's fine, but I love being in Scotland in 0:05:58.000 --> 0:05:59.800 the rain, sitting inside a house waiting for you to 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:01.159 come with this year old man. 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:05.920 I'm actually so bored. I don't cope well at all, 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:08.640 and I'm very clingy. So like Ben will leave in 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:10.080 the morning and I'll message him and I'll be like, 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:13.480 are you nearly home yet he's like, I'm in the driveway. 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:16.160 He hasn't even left for the day yet, Like, when 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:16.880 are you coming home? 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.359 It's tough, but I guess we don't get holidays at 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.039 the same time, we get a couple of days off 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:23.960 together where we're going to try and like explore. But 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.599 he goes to training, you know, he goes and comes 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:29.480 back as quickly as possible for me, and I just 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:30.719 do some work in the day. 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:31.760 At the moment. 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:33.800 To be honest, I'm sleeping because I'm so jetlag. So 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:36.560 it's okay, But I don't know far out. I don't 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:38.440 know how i'd find friends. I might have to start 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:40.200 to go to like the old bowls club with my 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.320 new next door neighbors if I moved here and find 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:43.960 some locals, or you would be. 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:45.960 Like every time we have an ask guncut question that 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:47.960 comes in, which is like how do I meet new friends? 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:49.719 You within like the test drive, You'll have to go 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:51.520 out and do all the activities and come back and 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:52.120 report on it. 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:52.640 I will. 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.200 We're gonna be doing this hard, well only the startup, 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:57.640 because we've banked a couple of awesome interviews just before 0:06:57.680 --> 0:06:59.880 Britt left. But we're going to be doing this podcasts 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:02.840 continent for the next two weeks, and then you were 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:05.240 coming home because I hate the zoom shit. But well, 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:08.359 you know, we deal, we survive, and we thrive. I 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:10.320 wanted to tell you about something that happened to me 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:13.240 on the weekend, which is not very glamorous at all. 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.320 I love when your stories start with this, but I 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.320 feel like you are never ever going to start a 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:20.040 story with I did something very glamorous on the weekend. 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.360 Fuck, I don't think I've ever done anything glamorous in 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:26.840 my life. This involves Matthew Johnson and one of our 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:30.200 wonderful dedicated life is I hope so much that she's 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:33.000 listening right now. So over the weekend, matt and I 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.200 we went down the coast to Kayama. We spent the 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:38.240 weekend with my mom and my stepdad down there and like, 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.080 the kids had a beautiful time. We booked an airbnb 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:43.600 and they went swimming in the pool. It was like 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:45.840 truly just a glorious lit a weekend with the family. 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:49.000 On the way back up, we've had the most trash 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.200 weather so like the last couple of days in Sydney 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:55.080 has been just raining every day, super windy, the Thursday, Friday, 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:57.440 Saturday was perfect and then since kind of like Saturday, 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:02.360 it's just been gross. Anyway, driving back up from Kayama 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:05.160 and we stopped in at the McDonald's and Matt it 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:07.400 was teeming with rain and both girls need to go 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:08.800 to the toilet. So I was like, I'll take them 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:10.960 into the toilet. Matt, you see in the car, let 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:12.520 me know what you want. And he put on this 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:15.200 ridiculous order and it was like he ordered all his 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:18.760 chips and these burgers and whatnot. Fine, So I had 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:21.120 the two kids, I've got no shoes on, I have 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.000 gotten all of his food, and I walk out and 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:26.880 it's like pissing down rain as we go to exit 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:29.240 McDonald's and I walk out with the two girls and 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:30.560 I'm trying to get them in the car, and I've 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:32.760 got this fucking bag of food. And then the bag 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:36.000 of food gets wet and the bag of food explodes 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:39.080 onto the ground, and Matt jumps out of the car 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.160 and I'm like, I'm yelling at him. I'm like, can 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.320 you fucking help me with the kids. So the first 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:44.920 thing he does is he dives down to the ground 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:46.480 like the food is on the ground in the rain, 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:49.880 it is wet. He's like, no, he starts picking up 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:51.320 the burgers. But you would think he would go for 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.280 the burgers first, except the chips have spilt out onto 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:55.200 the wet ground. 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:57.679 I would have thought he'd go for the girls first. 0:08:57.840 --> 0:08:59.120 Actually before the chips. 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:00.000 All the burgers. 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:01.679 To be fair, the girls are kind of old enough 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:03.560 to climb into the car themselves, so they were safe. 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:05.240 It was a bit of a fend for yourself situation. 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:08.120 But so the burgers are on the ground. The chips 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:11.000 have cascaded out of the little packet onto the floor. 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:13.920 So what does Matt do first? He doesn't put the 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:16.840 burgers back in the paper bag that's like disintegrated because 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:19.720 of the rain. He bends down and picks up a 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:23.640 handful of wet chips off the ground and puts them 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:27.160 into his mouth as someone drives past with the window 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:28.520 down and goes, oh. 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:31.160 My god, Laura, I love your podcast. 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:35.079 I'm listening to it right now, And there's Matt hunched 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:38.480 over the fucking McDonald fries sort of wet, shoveling them 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:41.200 into his mouth like gollum. And I was just sitting 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:43.800 there like, I'm so embarrassed by this. Situation, and what 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:47.160 did he do? I was like, fucking stop, he goes 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:49.720 down for seconds, he eats a second handful off the ground, 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:51.439 out of the wet ground. 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:54.760 Yes, Laura, you've committed. He has committed. He's done it. 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:57.200 You're not gonna if you've done one handful of cold, 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:59.360 disgusting chips off the ground, as if you're gonna stop 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:01.360 at one handful, and that he's already been seen, he's 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:01.880 been sprung. 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:02.839 You're gonna eat the whole thing. 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:05.319 No, it's like eating chips in a shower, but worse 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:08.480 because it's off the ground, off a public rose. But like, 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:11.400 could you imagine two handfuls of wet chips? While I 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:15.000 tried to have a lovely conversation with truly the nicest, 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:17.680 most excited life where I think I've ever come across. 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:19.920 She was absolutely divine and she was literally listening to 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:21.720 the episode at the same time. It was very cool. 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:22.959 I absolutely love that. 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:25.480 What are your thoughts on eating from the ground, like 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:27.360 the five second rule? Oh, I feel like you wouldn't 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:28.199 be that strict on it. 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:30.720 I'm fine, I'm fine. I'll eat shit off the floor, 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:32.960 But will I eat it off the floor during a storm? 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:35.479 Probably not. I think that that's where I draw the line. 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:37.200 And I think there's a difference between the floor of 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:40.920 like your home and the floor of like a public 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:42.960 twiter McDonald's car, McDonald's car. 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:46.040 Part you would have thought, because like when Matt gets 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.160 to the stage of being hungry, we get there so 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:50.800 quickly and it's so profound and he needs to eat 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.640 so immediately that he will literally eat shit off a 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:57.520 sidewalk because his hangarness has gotten this so out of control. 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:00.920 I just picture him literally like Gollum. That is so far, 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:03.199 all right. I wanted to talk to you about something 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:06.400 I've seen in France. I know you've seen in France too, 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:09.000 because we've been speaking about it, but neither of us 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:10.400 have actually been to France to witness. 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:11.480 That's not what this is, but. 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.679 We've seen it. I love that you say this. It 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:15.920 makes it sound like you are in France, and it's 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:17.599 something that I just witnessed the other day when I 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:18.640 popped over to France. 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:20.920 I just witnessed this as I applied a filter to 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.559 my face and uploaded it to Instagram. 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:27.040 So this is the headline of these news article circling 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:31.599 influences in France could face two years in jail for 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:35.080 posting a selfie without saying it's been edited. 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:37.880 If you listen to the Pickup Our Best of the episode. 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:40.079 A couple of weeks ago, we spoke about some of 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:42.200 the new laws that have been passed in France recently 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:45.920 around how parents use their children across Instagram, whether they 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:48.800 can have their children had their own YouTube channels, and 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:53.920 children making money for participating in paid advertising across Instagram. Well, 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:57.400 it seems like France has really up the ante across 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:00.440 all social media and how people are making money on 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:03.440 that platform, because these are some new laws that are 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:07.440 being brought in which are around not just parenting now, 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:12.760 but around how influencers filter, how they use liquefying tools 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:15.760 to change their body shape. There's all different types of 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:18.199 ways in which we all know the influencers used to 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:20.160 kind of you know, make themselves look better or to 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:21.160 better promote a product. 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:24.680 Well, in twenty seventeen, so they sort of have been 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:25.760 I guess. 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:27.120 Bread crumbing these laws. 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:30.040 So in twenty seventeen, friends past the law mandating that 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:34.880 the disclaimer photography retache. I definitely butchered that, but you 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:39.400 have to say on any retouched photograph that you've retouched 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:41.960 the photograph, and this has to go online and print 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:45.880 advertisements anything that's featured models whose bodies have been photoshopped. 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.720 So in twenty seventeen you had to say it has 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.520 been retouched. And I do remember seeing a little bit 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:53.480 of a trend in Australia at the time. There are 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:56.079 a few models that started to post that, and I 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:57.720 don't think that was a regulation. I think they were 0:12:57.760 --> 0:12:59.920 just starting to do it, like say, hey, I'm going 0:12:59.920 --> 0:13:00.600 to be really. 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:01.800 Honest in transparency. 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.560 Yeah, I'm just gonna be honest and authentic. This shoot 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:08.280 was photo retouched, not necessarily photoshop. It's my understanding and 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:10.600 you might know law Laura, but it's my understanding that 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:13.360 retouched is different to photoshop. 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:16.520 No, I think that's like tomatoes tomatoes. Like, so, retouching 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:18.800 is something that you do in Photoshop is a program. 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:21.280 It's a program that people use. It does so many 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:24.600 different things, but it is the program that is used 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:28.119 to retouch photos. So whether you say photoshop or retouching, 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:30.840 it is essentially the same thing. But I think sometimes 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:34.199 people think of photoshop as being sinching of a waste 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:38.440 or removing literally centimeters from your thighs or making your 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:41.320 jaw sharper, or you know, getting ready to under eyebags 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:42.880 or whatever. I think a lot of people think of 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:46.920 photoshopping as being more cutting into I guess a photo 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:50.720 and retouching as being applying filters. But I think that 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:53.719 that is literally just splitting hairs. They are essentially all 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.360 done within the same platform, and they are kind of 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:57.000 the same thing. 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:00.280 Well, the French government now is proposing legislation which would 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:04.320 make it mandatory for influences to a disclose if the 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:08.680 photos they've posted have been filtered or edited, and also 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:12.280 banned them from promoting cosmetic surgery. So this is actually 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:14.840 some statements that have come from the French finance minister. 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:17.679 Now I don't know why the fine nance Minister's getting 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:18.199 involved in this. 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:18.880 I wouldn't have. 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:20.480 Thought that this was his because they want to make 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:20.920 some money. 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:23.600 Yeah, I don't follow this is his kettle of fish. 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:26.240 But he has said that the move will help limit 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:30.080 the destructive psychological effects of these practices. 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:31.360 On Internaught's esteem. 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:33.800 And now Internaughts we googled, it just means somebody that 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:35.960 spends a lot of time on the internet, which is 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:37.480 the next generation let's be real. 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:38.360 So what he's trying to. 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:41.880 Say is we think that social media is extremely damaging 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:44.320 for the next generation, so we want to make it, 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:46.520 you know, as real and raw as possible and limit 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:47.760 those psychological effects. 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:51.480 And the way they think to do that is to 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:53.520 put influences. 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:57.040 In jail for two years if they even put a 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:00.680 filter on their photo. To me, I think a little 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:05.040 bit dramatic. I think that the punishment far outweighs the crime. 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:07.720 Do I think that we should be saying that we've 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:11.080 filtered things or photoshops. Sure, that's fine, that's one step. 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:14.720 But to say, go to jail for two years and 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:18.280 have a forty eight thousand dollar fine on top of that, 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:21.320 you're never allowed to work again. So if you have 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:25.000 been convicted of a filtered photo or a photoshopped photo 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:27.800 or promoting cosmetic surgery and you go to prison and 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:30.320 you come out, you're banned from social media and you 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:33.000 can never capitalize on it again, I think it's a 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:33.680 bit extreme. 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:36.120 I mean I read this and I was like, what't 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.160 somebody think of the influences? 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.800 Yeah, you have to, you can't read it not think 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:42.200 of that. 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:44.920 Well, I was like, surely this like I mean, it 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.840 finds an excess of forty eight thousand dollars a two 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.720 year jail sentence. I was like, surely this is the 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:53.640 most extreme version. And now I would like to think 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:57.840 that maybe the article is leaning into the like catastrophizing 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.640 what the sentencing could be. So I think, like, for example, 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:03.840 if you know an influencer who has fourteen thousand followers 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:06.800 post a filtered photo, I'm going to assume that she's 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:08.760 not going to go to prison for two years for 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:12.240 doing that. Maybe it's holding people to account who have 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:16.600 an immense amount of influence, like say, for example, the Kardashians, 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:21.120 who influence millions of people every single day. Maybe they 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:24.040 are the types of people that they're trying to put 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.640 these restrictions on. But I think, for me, when I 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:29.320 read this, my instant thought is I do think that 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:32.600 there needs to be way more legislation and way more 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:36.680 accountability across social media because it is still largely unregulated. 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:38.280 We see it all the time. I know that there 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:40.440 is hashtag ad, I know that there is paid partnership 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:43.280 in Australia. But if people can get around it, they will, 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.280 And I think also if people can get around being 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:49.640 transparent about how they're altering their body. They will. But 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:51.760 the issue I have with this whole two year sentencing 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:55.240 thing or having really harsh fines on it is that 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:59.040 I think so many people who are influencers, and so 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.560 many people who work in this industry, even though they 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:05.919 have influence on others, a lot of their photoshopping of themselves, 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:08.320 a lot of they're curating a lifestyle that they don't 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:12.440 live and it doesn't exist. It comes from feelings of insecurity, 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:15.280 It comes from this place of not being adequate enough. 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:17.520 It comes from a place of needing and feeling like 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:20.280 they need to be better. So they're living almost a 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:23.280 false life through social media. And I don't know whether 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:26.359