1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Well, Consumer Affairs and nt work say for urging locals 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: to be aware of businesses selling PV solar equipment in 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory. The watchdogs are concerned about the suspicious 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: practices of the solar businesses, saying it's been well cohersing 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: customers into financial arrangements and is targeting vulnerable people. Joining 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: me on the line, is nt. Consumer Affairs Commissioner Tracy Keys, 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: good morning to you. Commissioner. 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: Now how did this solar business come on to your. 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: Radar, Wilson? It was information shared with us from Western Australia. 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: So it's a particular business that we believe might be 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 2: coming into the Northern Territory and we just had shared 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 2: concerns about some of the practices that have already been 14 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 2: observed and want to get some information out to the 15 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: public about how to protect themselves. 16 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: And so what are some of the practices which are 17 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: concerning consumer affairs both here in the Northern Territory and 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: indeed in w at these points. 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: Oh well, so that's the practice of unsolicited sales. So 20 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: this might be where someone knocks on your door or 21 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: they ring you and they use high pressure sales tactics 22 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: to get you to agree to something before you've really 23 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: had proper time to consider whether it's something you need 24 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: or something you can afford. 25 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: And then Tracy, I mean, are they going ahead with 26 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: the project or is it more that they're really locking 27 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: people into something that they can't actually afford. 28 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 2: My understanding is it's a bit of both, so that 29 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: people might be agreeing to things that they can't afford, 30 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: but we're also hearing stories about incomplete work or faulty 31 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: work that's being done. So it's really important that consumers 32 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: is they're going to spend big money, which solar is 33 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: that they've actually done their homework before they sign on 34 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: to anything. But the other really important thing with daughter 35 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: or sales is that consumers actually have a ten day 36 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: cooling off period. So one of the problems of this 37 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: business is they're not telling people that they have those rights. 38 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: So if you aren't pressured into buying something and afterwards 39 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: you have biased remorse, you do have ten days in 40 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: which you can actually pull out of that contract without 41 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: any consequences. 42 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: And so what do people need to do, Like if 43 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: they're listening this morning and they're thinking, oh, my goodness, 44 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: I think I may have been, you know, a target here, 45 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: or I may be a victim and they're still in 46 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: that ten day cooling off period, or I don't know, 47 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 1: maybe they're not like what should they do at this point? 48 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 2: Well, the first thing I do is' in consumer affairs. 49 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: So our number is eighteen hundred and zero one nine 50 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: three one nine. And even if you're outside that ten 51 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: day cooling off period, still give us a call, because 52 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: if the persons selling you the solar or another product 53 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: actually hasn't told you about your cooling off rights, then 54 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 2: the period you've got to get out of that contract 55 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: might be as long as three months, or it could 56 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: be six months. So it's definitely worth giving us a call. 57 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 2: That we would also be keen to hear from people 58 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: as they are having people knock on their door and 59 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: try and sell them this way. We actually want to 60 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: know about it so that we can actually let the 61 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: public know about these practices and we can look at 62 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 2: what we can do. 63 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: Tracy, are there certain territorians that are being targeted here? 64 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: I mean I know some you know, some cons at 65 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: different times really target those that are more senior in 66 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: our community, or maybe people that are a little bit 67 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: more vulnerable for one reason or another. 68 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and it's quite a consistent thing we see in 69 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 2: this space. So they tend to focus on older Territorians 70 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: and also focusing a lot on Aboriginal consumers, particularly out 71 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: in the remote area. And of course the challenge there 72 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: is really hard to get anyone to come out and 73 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: actually do work in the remote communities, so it's particularly 74 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 2: tempting as selling knocks on your door and actually offers 75 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: that service for you. 76 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: Now, have any Territorians actually lost funds or been caught 77 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: up with the particular operator of concern at this point. 78 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 2: Nothing has been reported to us so far, Katie, And 79 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: that's why I guess we want to get on the 80 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: front foot and let people know the best is prevention. 81 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: If we can get information out there that would be best. 82 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: Is any of this part of For a little while there, 83 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: I saw these little signs up around the place to do, 84 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: is any of these part of those little signs that 85 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: were up where they were sort of on traffic lights 86 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: and all sorts of things saying you know, I. 87 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 2: Want I know the signs you're talking about. No, it's 88 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: unrelated to that. So one of the things to be 89 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: for listeners to be aware of is that unsolicited sales 90 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 2: is where they come to you. But sometimes, and maybe 91 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: the same with this business or other solar businesses, they 92 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: might actually just leave like a leaflet or something in 93 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: your latter box and you wring them and your protections 94 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: are not as great in that space. So if you 95 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 2: have done that and you're concerned that maybe you've signed 96 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 2: up for something that isn't right, still give Consumer Affairs 97 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: a call and we can talk through what your rights 98 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: and options are. 99 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: That's a really good point to make. Is certain promotional 100 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: material doing the rounds at the moment. 101 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 2: Listen, we have heard that there might be some letterbox drops, 102 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: that there might be some leaflets out there. So I 103 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: guess my advice to consumers is, if you are looking 104 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 2: at SOLA, do your homework. There are reputable providers out there. 105 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 2: For like, any time you're going to spend big money 106 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 2: on something, go do your homework. Find out who are 107 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 2: the reputable dealers in town. 108 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, very good advice. NT. Consumer Affairs Commissioner Tracy Keys. 109 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: Great to speak with you this morning. Thanks so much 110 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: for your. 111 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 2: Time, my pleasure, Katie. 112 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: Thank you