1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: The Wiggles acknowledge the traditional custodians of country throughout Australia 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: and their connections to land, sea and community. We pay 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: our respects to elders, past, present and emerging. 4 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: Welcome to wiggle Talk, a podcast for parents. I'm Simon Price. 5 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: I'm the Red Wiggle. Now a little head's up today. 6 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 2: I'm flying solo. Yeah, Locke's away, so it is just 7 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: me and I thought i'd take this opportunity. If you're 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: watching this, but I've redesigned the whole studio. I've got 9 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: rid of that wonky old round table, I've got rid 10 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: of the chairs. I'm sitting in a nice like lounge chair, 11 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: which is still too small for me, but most things 12 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: in life are because I'm six foot four. So I've 13 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: redesigned the studio and I thought i'd do that while 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 2: Locke's away. The Neon's still there, so I'll be happy 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: about that and we'll get his opinion when he comes back. 16 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: But Locke and I we've been getting and you know, 17 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: wiggle Talk's been getting a lot of questions lately from 18 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: parents of one and two year old and Lock and 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: I were chatting about this. It's funny you move on 20 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: so quickly, and we were trying to sort of think 21 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: back to that stage. But our kids are now getting 22 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: ready for school and we're kind of in a very 23 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: different headspace. So we thought, given there's all these questions 24 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 2: coming in for one and two year olds, that we'd 25 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 2: bring in some friends, some wiggly friends. And they're in 26 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: the studio with me. I was gonna say us, because 27 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: I used to say they're in the studio with me 28 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 2: right now. So John and Caterina, welcome to Wiggle Talk. 29 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: Welcome to the studio. 30 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 3: Thanks Simon, Thanks having us. 31 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: What do you think of the redesign? 32 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: I like it. 33 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: How's Lucky going to feel? What do you think? 34 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 2: He won't cope at all? 35 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 3: He's not going to lie down across here. 36 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: You won't cope. You want, you want to do things 37 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: to it, But I think it's a start. Design is 38 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: not one of my strong points, definitely not so, but 39 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: lock you will have some ideas, and I think it's 40 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: nice to change it up. That round table we had, 41 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: I mean, you've been guessed for a few times now. 42 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: That was a little wonky old table. 43 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: It was blocking you. Now we see a it's a. 44 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 3: Bit more relaxed. 45 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: He was he Locky, I have to wear pants because 46 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: Lockie tends to wear a lot of shorts. His knees 47 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: lovely legs. Yeah, it really does. But he'll need to 48 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: put some pants. And I think and from oh where 49 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: longer socks? Ankles, other ankles are popping through the through 50 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: my Jesus. Its great. Thanks for coming in. We're getting 51 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 2: a lot of questions about the toddler age yet, and 52 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: so you're our toddler experts. 53 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: We're in there. 54 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: We are right in amongst it, don't We do it 55 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: every day? 56 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: Every day. 57 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: Wiggle Talk, Talk Talk, wiggle Talk. It's Dear Wiggles. Authorized 58 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: by Simon Locky. 59 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 3: This Deer Wiggles episode was brought to you by carry 60 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: Care Toddler Made for happy little tummies. 61 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: Let's get into it. The question today is from Sarah. Now, 62 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: I thought Caterina. Maybe because Lockie normally reads these and 63 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 2: I don't have my glasses, maybe you'd like to read 64 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 2: this one from Sarah. 65 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: I'd love to Simon now. It says deer Wiggles. My 66 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: two year old is in a Bay Food face toast, pasta, crackers, nuggets. 67 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: Anything new on the plate is a hard no. I've 68 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: even tried blending extra veggies into pasta sauce and they 69 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: still refuse to even taste it. Am I doing something wrong? 70 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: Do I just need to lean into it and start 71 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: making veggies beige so they'll eat them? Or is there 72 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: a better way to handle this? That is a great question, Sarah. 73 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: I feel you. I am in that stage too with 74 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: my girls. John, how about you? Is Henry the same? Yeah? 75 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: Well, I'd also like to know the answer to this question. 76 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: Yes, you know, we were lucky with thatsh We didn't 77 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: really go through a huge beige food stage because he 78 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: was always so happy to have his veggies. He probably 79 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: got into it a little bit later now with the nugget. 80 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: He never liked nuggets, never want to do any of it. 81 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: He did, and then he went off them totally. 82 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: Kind of That's good. 83 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 2: I think part of the thing, Sarah is to remember 84 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 2: that these are phases so much as how hard it 85 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: is right now, that will actually change, and that your 86 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: child will enjoy veggies or at least some different colored food. 87 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: And we spoke to someone on the podcast a while ago. 88 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 2: You talked about the rainbow plate and always continuing trying 89 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 2: to encourage that idea of the different colors and the 90 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: plate and sort of make it fun and playful, but 91 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 2: that doesn't stop the issue you go through right now. 92 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 2: So for you, Calorina to both girls that they play 93 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: off each other with regards to not really. 94 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: They seem to like certain things and the other one 95 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: might not like them or changes from day to day, 96 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: like one day she'll want this and gg wants something else. 97 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: But it's been tricky, like to get them to have 98 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: anything other than bread. And they love veggiemite. They always 99 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: like my mate, my mate. I'm like, yes, okay, we'll 100 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: get veggulate. But but I'm like, at least, I always say, well, 101 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: at least they're eating something, and then not, but yeah, 102 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: they I don't want any fruit and vegetables. I can manage. 103 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: They still like those pouches, and I know they're a 104 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: little bit old for them, but I figure Lisa getting 105 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: fruit in them because they used to eat strawberries bananas 106 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: and then just one day they just went, I don't 107 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: want that anymore. 108 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 3: And throw it off. Like Jess as a good cook. Lately, 109 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 3: she's been cooking my wife. She's been cooking, cooking, cooking 110 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 3: my wife. She's been cooking a lot for Henry, and 111 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: she tries to make, you know, the plate look as 112 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 3: colorful as possible, make it look nice in the high chair, 113 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 3: and then puts Henry in there. And the first thing 114 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 3: he does is pick up the plate and just tip 115 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 3: it off, like how dishearten cook for you? 116 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: You? 117 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 3: And I'm on the floor, hands and knees trying to 118 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 3: pick it up. I still give it back to him. 119 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,119 Speaker 3: I've got to clean floors, waist. 120 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: My girls like muffins, so they'll see muff and they're 121 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: like muffin. 122 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: So I'm like, I like kind of blueberr muffins. 123 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I like try and sneak things in. 124 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: Those, like it is about sneaking, isn't it. 125 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 3: You have to try to not too much flavor because 126 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: I can tell yeah. 127 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Actually. And my Dolly's got a sweet tooth. 128 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: So those you know veggie pouches, there's one you can 129 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: get and it has spinach like broccoli and something, but 130 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: then they throw in an apple. That's the only way 131 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: she'll have it because she's like, oh, there's some sweet 132 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: in here, so yeah, that's apple. 133 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 3: Seems to wear. We used one of those you know 134 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 3: those cups, those subo cups. 135 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 2: I know their cups. 136 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 3: They are like a drink bottle. But you can make 137 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 3: a smoothie and you can send the solid foods in there. 138 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 3: You can throw it and drop and it won't make 139 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 3: a mess. That seems to work for us if we're 140 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 3: on the go and Henry likes to be outside, so 141 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 3: we just make it smoothie and we're throwing a bit 142 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 3: of spinach and you know, blueberries and heaps of banana 143 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 3: and then make a smoothi out of it. 144 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you tried that, Caterina, the girls like smoothie. 145 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: They do like smoothie. 146 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: Okay, so that's the way to sneak to. 147 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: Get that in there. But yeah, it's just so tricky, 148 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: Like my girls don't even eat pasta. I'm Italian, you 149 00:06:55,760 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: know how devastated my mum is. Extra She's like horrified 150 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: every time she's tried. 151 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 2: And they're just like no, Usually that's the goat plain 152 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: passers to go to, right, But yeah, I want it. 153 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: We'll go to restaurants with cousins and things and basically 154 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: that's what you have to order because that's kind of 155 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: all oar eat. But they won't even do that. I 156 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: do that, so do you keep trying. 157 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: Keep trying, because everyone tells me just keep trying, keep trying. 158 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: And then I'm like, I feel so bad because you're 159 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: like all this food. And yeah, so we try every day, 160 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: we try something new, and. 161 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, we spoke to Nutritionus on the podcast. He was 162 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: talking about that smoothies are a great way even for breakfast, 163 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: with wheat bigs and oats actually blend all that into 164 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: a smoothie, so they're getting all that. But he also 165 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: said around meal time, you can actually just put some 166 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: veggies or whatever just on a plate and just have 167 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: it sit there. Yep, And over time it might feel 168 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: like a waste of would have but over time that 169 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: your child will actually just start reaching for it. So 170 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 2: it's not on their plate, it's just there. And that 171 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: might be an option to try as well, but you 172 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: don't want to, you know. 173 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: It's funny. Chicken I said to our pediatrician the other day, 174 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: said the only advantage of them not trying food is 175 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: that they don't pick up anything off the floor and 176 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: put in their mouth, you know, children, and they put 177 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: it in. My kids have no interest in that because 178 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: I think, oh, that might be food that we better 179 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: not taste, and. 180 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 3: He's always picking up a little small thing, like I 181 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: catch him before he does it, but he's so quick 182 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 3: to do something it might look not even advertising, and 183 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 3: he'll try to put in his mouth and I always think, 184 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: why don't you do that with broccoli? You'll pick up 185 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 3: that little rock or a little guitar pick. 186 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: I won if it's something to do with the fact 187 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 2: that we're really trying to encourage him to do something, 188 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: that's just that kind of pushback, you know, And so 189 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: maybe that is that approach where you're just having it there. 190 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: Just hard broccoli on the floor. 191 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 2: That's right. Oh, dear well, Sarah, I'm not sure. 192 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: You know. 193 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 2: What is a common theme with the Deer Wiggles subjects 194 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 2: is that we tend to never solve the product. 195 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: Have we given some options movies that's a good option, Yeah, yeah. 196 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the key is to it is 197 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 2: is to continue trying and that it will be a phase. 198 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: And it's interesting, isn't it. And that's why we've got 199 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: you in for these more toddler based questions because as 200 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: your child grows, you do forget so quickly and because 201 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: you move on, because you're in a whole different world 202 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: at a different time, and so what seemed desperate at 203 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 2: the time and such a difficult thing to manage, you 204 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,479 Speaker 2: then completely move on from and almost forget. Just fascinating 205 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: of course, you know. 206 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: Because I can't even remember the baby's stay. 207 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 3: The provision does to you half the time to forget things. 208 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: Well, I really hope we've helped given a few different ideas. 209 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 2: Katerina and John, thank you for coming on Will Talk 210 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: and helping with the beige food issues for toddlers. Well 211 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: that's it for today. 212 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 3: This Dear Wiggles episode was brought to you by carry 213 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 3: Care Toddler made for Happy Little Tummies. 214 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 2: Again, once again, thank you, big thank you to John 215 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: and Katerina for coming in today. Look, if you've got 216 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: a question, you can send us the email at podcast 217 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 2: at the Wiggles dot com dot au or a voice 218 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: note at the Wiggles dot com slash podcast. Apparently that's 219 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 2: a forward slash podcast. A backslash will get you nowhere. 220 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. That's all for wiggled Talk. Bye bye.