1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Christ Yeah, welcome friends to the Christian O'Connell Show podcast. 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 2: Last year on the show we did the eight z 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 2: of the Eighties, where you can probably gets that worked. 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: Each week we will break about the eighties with that 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: week's letter. We're kicking off the nineties and tonight it's 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 2: all about the letter. A. One of the biggest movies 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: of the nineties, Armageddon. It made over half a billion dollars, right, 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: and a huge, huge, completely over the top nineties movie. 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: Directed by Michael Bay with a who's who of Hollywood 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: in the movies. 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 3: It's stacked with premier talent. 12 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 4: This is a movie that has only grown more and 13 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 4: more beautiful with time. I loved it. 14 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 3: I tell you what it is. 15 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: It's like an irony sort of free bulletproof zone, isn't it. 16 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 4: I mean, looking back on it, the actors and the 17 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 4: director try to claim that they knew that it was irony. 18 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 4: They did not. 19 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety eight. 20 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 4: They lent in one hundred percent and were the better 21 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 4: for it. 22 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: If you're trying to remember Armageddon, ok it's a load 23 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: of oil drillers who are putting a space rocket with 24 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 2: zero training. All right, people train for years, Okay, years 25 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: to go up to space. They just they need these 26 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: guys because there's a meteorite coming to planet Earth and 27 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 2: the only chance they've got is this renegade bunch. I 28 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: love also montage where they're getting the gang together. Any 29 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: movie that does that, I'm all in the premise of 30 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 2: the movie of armaged In, right, is that a meteor 31 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: is going to destroy planet Earth unless I actually wrote 32 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: this down in my notes shet I was watching it. 33 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: Unless oil drillers drill into it, drop a nuclear bomb, 34 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: then blow it up from the inside. It had also 35 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 2: nine different writers brought in to try and beef the 36 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: movie up, as the studio kept looking at a bit of it, 37 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 2: going um, this seems a bit odd. One of them 38 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: was a young JJ Abrahams, who went on, obviously we 39 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: could do its own amazing stuff. But nine different writers 40 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: and no cliche is left unturned in this movie. They 41 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: actually say lines like what I meant to say was sorry. 42 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: You know where someone high up goes to speak and 43 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: someone gives them a big spray. 44 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 3: And then go what I was gonna say was sorry. 45 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: My favorite line of the entire movie is this one 46 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: here Colonel Willie Sherriff and I did just say. 47 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: It's Air Force. 48 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 5: Mans questing permission to shake the hand of the daughter. 49 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm the bravest man I've ever met. 50 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you. The last ten minutes I 51 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: was watching this yesterdayter by myself. I tear tears. 52 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 3: It's so gung ho. 53 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: It's the most pro American movie I've ever seen. It's like, hey, 54 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 2: sit down, restless world, hold my beer, We've got this. 55 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: It is like the oil companies. I mean, this must 56 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: be Scomo's idea of porn. The oil companies and rice 57 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: oil dreamers. They're the good guys. The whole movie celebrating oil, drink, 58 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: nuclear weapons. I reckon Scomo was one of the nine 59 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: writers on this back in nineteen ninety eight. 60 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 4: I love that he could still get emotional towards the end, 61 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 4: because every second counts towards the end, the closer the asterronis. 62 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 3: How many times? How many times? 63 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: Right? 64 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 6: If you? 65 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 3: If I always played a drinking game. 66 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: The phrase Cluck's chicking, guys said about one thousand times. 67 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: This thing's gonna blow any minute, guys. 68 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 3: It's also said a lot in the movie. 69 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 4: So we're watching the clock over and over again. We 70 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 4: know that there's every. 71 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 3: Second against time to save planet Earth. 72 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, then it gets to the point where they're about 73 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 4: to blow up that asteroid and save the world. Yet 74 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 4: Bruce Willis has time to FaceTime essentially his daughter Live 75 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 4: Tyler and have a lengthy back. 76 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 2: And for royal old long winded chat with her as well. 77 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,839 Speaker 2: And there they're also I love all the bits where 78 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 2: they're going, I'm still drilling eight hundred meters to go 79 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: to the Iron Fairest Plate. I don't even know if 80 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: there is such thing as the Iron Fairest Plate. I'm going, 81 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: Is he gonna make it to the Iron Fairest Plate? Hurry? 82 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: Eight hundred meters ago? 83 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 4: I did love how how hell been they were to 84 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 4: get like eight hundred feet into the asteroids, like seven 85 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 4: ninety five would have probably done the job. Still, send 86 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 4: the nuke down there, you're gonna be all right. 87 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: There's a yeah, there's a bit in the movie as 88 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: well where there's a line I think he's in the 89 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: first twenty minutes, right, and that's where I actually got goosebumps. 90 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: This might be one of the most important lines in 91 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: cinematic history where they're talking about I think it's about 92 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: that they're talking. Someone's talk about Bruce Wooldis and they go, 93 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: whatever they said couldn't be drilled. This guy drilled it. 94 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: I'm I'm all in, well, you asked me to invest 95 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: in this, just telling me this lines in the movie. 96 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 3: I'll give you, I'll give you my money, I'll remortgage. 97 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: Now this movie needs to be. 98 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 4: Told, well, he's never been giving a drilling depth that 99 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 4: he hasn't hit America. Didn't consult any other countries about 100 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 4: wanting to say what. 101 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 2: Horris just gets obliterated, right. 102 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 3: Paris a city of culture and history. 103 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: I don't know whether Michael Wather, director had a dodgy 104 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: sort of time there and thought, do you know what, 105 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to make a movie one day, Well, we're 106 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: just going. 107 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:39,679 Speaker 3: To wipe out Paris. And it's okay. 108 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 4: The scene years last, probably two seconds. You see the 109 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 4: Eiffel tear and all of Paris get obliterated there, and it's. 110 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 2: Never mentioned again. 111 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: The Paris is now gone. 112 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 4: It's a non issue. 113 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: It's a non issue. At times. It's so believable. It's 114 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: like watching a documentary. You're thinking, is this a documentary? 115 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: I think in the end of it they've worked out 116 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: there are one hundred and sixty eight factual errors in 117 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 2: that movie. Okay, it doesn't matter. 118 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 3: It's movie, mate, and you're having a good time. 119 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: Christian Connall's show podcast. 120 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 2: What was that? How you doing? 121 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to the nineties. 122 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: I'd like to flip I make this look good. 123 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: Missus sheffields nineteen nineties. 124 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 7: You can't handle the true go on, dear her Christian 125 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 7: O'Connell's eight Z of the Nineties. 126 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, baby, all right. 127 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 3: The letter this week, it's all about this letter is 128 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 3: letter F. Thank you very much. 129 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 2: How every week he comes to next Monday to do 130 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 2: those for us. It's all about the letter F. Before 131 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: we get into Furby's and flip phones. The movie that 132 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 2: Jack and I watched yesterday, it's about viewing number eight 133 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: or nine for me. Was this seminal classic from the nineties, 134 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: directed by John Woof, starring two megastars, John Travolta and 135 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: Nick Cage face off. 136 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 6: I've been chasing this guy ever since I joined the force. 137 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 6: He's the most dangerous and brilliant criminal mind I've ever known. 138 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 6: And now, after all this time, I finally figured out 139 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 6: a way to trap him, will become him. 140 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: No other way. Try terrorism, for hire. We'll blow some 141 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 3: stuff up. 142 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: It's more fun. 143 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: Plan B. 144 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 6: Let's just kill each other. 145 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 2: What a movie. One of the greatest comedies ever made. 146 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 2: Only thing is they didn't make it as a comedy 147 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 2: as watching it yesterday seriously about the eighth of the 148 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: ninth time, and there's so many much what I'm crying 149 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: with laughter because it's so over the top and ludicrous. 150 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: It's very clear that they just came up with the 151 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: title face Off, and then worried about the sort of plot, script, 152 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 2: character development, all those proper things barely felt whined about. 153 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 2: This is because it's called face off. They have a 154 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 2: surgical operation. They remove each other's faces and wear them 155 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: so Jack, before we go any further, we're both very, 156 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: very excited about Face Off. How would you describe to 157 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: people we've never seen this movie the actual plot. 158 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 4: While try to do it justice. The king of all 159 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 4: premises is it's John Travolta. He's an agent. He's the 160 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 4: good guy. Nicholas Cage he's a terrorist, he's the bad guy. 161 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 4: John Travolta catches him early in the film, puts him 162 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 4: in a coma. While he's in a coma, he's still 163 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 4: got a bomb. Somewhere in La that they don't know 164 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 4: where it is. So in order to infiltrate his gang 165 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 4: and his brother who built the bomb, he's got to 166 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 4: wear surgically remove the face of Nick Cage and put 167 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 4: it on his own. And then his own face goes 168 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 4: in a little jar by his bed. 169 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: It's just like you know, this, this most dangerous criminal 170 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: in the world, right beside anyone guarding him. His Nick, 171 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: John Travolta's face is just in a bowl next next 172 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: to a cage, right in like a like saging solution. 173 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 2: He've ant to contact lenses in cage suddenly wakes up 174 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: without his face from a coma just suddenly clicks up 175 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: and then guess what happened? 176 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 4: It is he he guides John Travolters. He finds John 177 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 4: Travolta's face. 178 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: That looks like what's doing it? It's like table. 179 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 4: He he puts the John Travolta's face on it, and 180 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, now our too. 181 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 3: Face lips or eyes, and he has a cigarette. 182 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 4: He's having a cigarette watching the He's watching the vision 183 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 4: of John Travolta's face get transferred in the original surgery. 184 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 4: And then he gets the doctor in his game, brings 185 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 4: the doctor in to do the same surgery on him. 186 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 4: So you've got the ultimate premise. You've got two arch 187 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 4: enemies looking each at each other, and they've switched faces, 188 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 4: and everybody believes that Nick Cage is John Travolta, and 189 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,599 Speaker 4: everybody believes John Travolta is Nick Cage in Sue, the 190 00:08:58,720 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 4: best movie ever. 191 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one of the greatest movies of all time. 192 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: And the thing is John Travolta actually does take on 193 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 2: an effect the mannerisms of Nick Cage. Nick Cage doesn't 194 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 2: bother is clear that he was given or they was 195 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 2: scared of him, because when you watch this, it's a 196 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 2: very heavily caffeinated performance. Well, I think actually they were 197 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: just like, we don't even speaking to him. 198 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: Why is he yelling in every. 199 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 4: That he's actually mad in this stage? Is actually mad 200 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 4: in this? 201 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: What about it? When the doctor's explaining what you know? 202 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 2: And this isn't set in the future, it's set in 203 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 2: the nineties. It's set there right where they're explaining the 204 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 2: complex procedure. But suddenly the doctor is so matter of 205 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 2: fact about it. It's almost like they're sort of repairing 206 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: like a hamstring injury or something like that. The inside 207 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 2: is modeled on your skull, all right, Yeah, the outside 208 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 2: exactly in and out within the day. 209 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: Then we fit his face on top, not a rapper 210 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: but the real thing. Then we simply connect the muscle 211 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: steer duck center about this, So you want to take 212 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: his face in mind. 213 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 3: Barrel incredible. 214 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 4: And that is crazily not even in my top three 215 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 4: of most ridiculous parts of the film. 216 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 2: All right, so you've got a top three of craziest 217 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: parts of Face Off. 218 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: We'll get into the next. 219 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 2: Carl Brighter. 220 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Christian know Kyl's Show podcast. 221 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: If you had to pick one movie where Nick Cage 222 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: achieved ultimate Nick Cage powers, this is it. It's there's 223 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: no way that he was directed. There are so many 224 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 2: bits in it don't make sense. There's this yelling that 225 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: doesn't fit the scripts or even the scene. It's a crazed, fueled, 226 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 2: fueled performance by Nick Cage. And I can't, I can't, 227 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I can't recommend another movie that would give 228 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: you so much fun watching it. That's fair to say, 229 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 2: isn't it. 230 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 3: Jack. 231 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 4: I saw The Batman this week, a big blockbuster movie. 232 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 4: Breaking all kinds of records. I much more enjoyed Face 233 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 4: Off than I did The Batman. 234 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean looking. 235 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like looking at a mirror, only not so. 236 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 3: You got Travolta and Cage. 237 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: Travolta chasing Cage finally works out away fire. I love 238 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 2: them when they go finally have worked out where to 239 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 2: get this guy whos been tracking for you? He killed 240 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 2: his son. Yeah, why do we think of all the time? 241 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: I mean they do all over the world, don't they 242 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 2: law enforcement agencies. We'll just take his face off his 243 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: and put it onto my right there, right there. That's 244 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: simple eye. This is going to change law all over 245 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 2: the world, now, won't it. And so they have each 246 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: other's faces, and Travolter does do this amazing job of 247 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 2: affecting all the mannerisms, and he doesn't do an impression, 248 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 2: but it's almost like an impression of Nick Cage. 249 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 3: Doesn't he throughout the rest of the movie was Cage doesn't. 250 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 4: He's just cagege even though it's meant to be John 251 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 4: Travolta's character. And also the face which leads to one 252 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 4: of my favorite scenes in the film, where Nicholas Cage 253 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 4: in handcuffs ready to infiltrate the prison, is rubbing his 254 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 4: face against the wall because his face itches after the surgery, 255 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 4: and because he's faces in handcuffs, he has to get 256 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 4: his buddy at the force to itch his face for him. 257 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and also the doctor said, hey, listen, it's one 258 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: of the rare movies as well that actually mentions the 259 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 2: title in a scene as well, because the doctor goes, 260 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 2: they just can't ever get into a face off and 261 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: start shooting each other. He goes to Travolta, who's now 262 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 2: obviously Nick Cage. You know, whatever you do, you just 263 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 2: can't get into a fight. Fast forward to he's in 264 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 2: the prison being punched repeatedly like in a UFC fire 265 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 2: ground and bound in the face. And then to escape 266 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: the prison, he jumps, like I'm not exaggerating, one hundred 267 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 2: foot into the sea. And what is it about all 268 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 2: those sort of action movies where the helicopter like shooting 269 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: into the sea. He's escaped the buddet somehow, right, And 270 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 2: they gave up really quick looking for these evil criminals, 271 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: didn't they. Once you're in a helicopter, they're going to 272 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 2: come up for air. Just stay up there, daddy, Cotch 273 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: has gone. What's they go in the sea? 274 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 3: We never ever find them again? 275 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 2: All right, Jack, what are your top three craziest moments 276 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: in a crazy movie? All right? 277 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 4: Here are the top three takeaways from Face Off and Now. 278 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 4: Despite being a violent movie with the crazy procedure of 279 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 4: swapping faces, the most unsettling part for me was actually 280 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 4: the way that John Travolta showed his family affection by 281 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 4: slowly stroking an open hand down the faces of his 282 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 4: loved ones. 283 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 3: I forget this to his son Boddy trying to blow 284 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 3: us all up. 285 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 4: He did it to his daughter, he did it to 286 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 4: his wife. 287 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: I've never seen that move from a dad anywhere. And 288 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 2: I and Jack, I'm go to you that. I mean, 289 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: I'm a very affectionate dad, hung in every day. I've 290 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 2: never seen before. 291 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 4: I tried to do it to be Anchors, like, hey, 292 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 4: will this feel nice? And she pulled her head away 293 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 4: and said, don't do that. Feel it feels offensive for 294 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 4: you to run your hand down my face. Take Away 295 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 4: number two. So the FBI, when they're meant to be 296 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 4: the good guys, right, they're catching this terrorist. They go 297 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 4: into this baddies lair and the terrorist son is in there, 298 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 4: and John Travolta has to honestly save the son from 299 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 4: getting shot to pieces by the FBI. Didn't There's no 300 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 4: reason for the FBI to be shooting a little. 301 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 2: Five year old boy not involved in it in any way. 302 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 3: He's just an innocent bystander. 303 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 4: That leads me to my final takeaway. And this is 304 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 4: a spoiler, so turn off now if you want to 305 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 4: watch Face Off. John Travolta comes home at the end 306 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 4: of the movie. He's got the little boy, the son 307 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 4: of his arch enemy, and without consulting his wife, essentially. 308 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: Brings me adopted. We've adopted almost this movie. He comes 309 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: to the house, Yeah, case, just come in, maute, look 310 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: what I've got? Like you got a puppy from the pound, 311 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 2: and so I was like, show me room's h what John? 312 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 2: We need to talk about this, right? 313 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 3: Who is that? 314 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: Oh? You know? That is that thought? 315 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 3: We'd him? 316 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 2: What about Hey? He's in surgery having his face put 317 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 2: back on right towards in the movie, right for weeks, 318 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: and they keep making a big deal about the agony, 319 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 2: as be the stitches, the sutras and all this. Then 320 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 2: suddenly right Travolta backs himself just makes his own way 321 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 2: home from the hospital. 322 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 3: Every time I watched this movie, I'm like. 323 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 2: She couldn't pick him up. She knows what he's been through, right, 324 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: he said, his face removed, and he's got reattached. He's 325 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 2: almost died. He saved the world essentially, Well, La, and 326 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: what yes does this get a taxi? Got to make 327 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: his own way home? It bugs me every time night 328 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: she couldn't go and. 329 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 3: Pick him up. 330 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 4: She looked surprised as well as if he didn't even 331 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 4: call to say hey, just so you know, surgery went 332 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 4: perfectly and my face is back on. 333 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: No, he said us Friday. 334 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 3: Now I've got zimber in an hour. 335 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 2: Oh, I think there's some leftovers in the Redge rum shot. 336 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: You said I was coming to get you Friday. Wait, 337 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 2: who's the little kid? 338 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 4: That's our son? Now? 339 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 2: My favorite one of my favorite lines. And there are 340 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 2: two great lines in this towards the end, Sorry I 341 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: killed you dad to that hope on the greatest lines 342 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: in the movie. Ever, how could someone type don't think? 343 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 2: Can we actually say this and put it on selinoid forever. 344 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 2: The other one is where they are facing off against 345 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: each other, these two arch rivals wearing each other's faces, 346 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: and they've got guns pointing at each other, and then 347 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: other people from their rival crews, their sort of backups 348 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 2: all turn up. So at one point there must be 349 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 2: a right Ten people with guns are pointing each other, 350 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: and then travalter is Gauge just goes what a predicament? 351 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 3: Ten out of ten. This movie is a ten out 352 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 3: of ten. 353 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: The Christian O'Connell show podcast. 354 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 2: This week It's all about the Letter G Nineteen to ninety, 355 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: the biggest movie of the year, cost them twenty two 356 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: million to make, grossed over seven hundred and fifty two 357 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 2: million dollars. Ghost one of the biggest movies of the nineties. 358 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 2: I didn't realize it made that much money, and it 359 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: became a cultural sort of moment as well. I remember 360 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 2: the front cover of Vanity Fair where Demi Moore who 361 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 2: was pregnant. It was one of the most famous iconic 362 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: images of the nineties that went all over the world. 363 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 2: Then there was the haircut as well, with women all 364 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: doing the Demi Moore. Before we actually get into the movie, 365 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 2: let's just have the Swayze talk right now, Patsy. Then 366 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 2: we can settle you down because we can't talk about 367 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: Swayzey without getting a little bit hot on air for Patsy, 368 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 2: So tell us about swayze. 369 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 8: Swayzey was out about oh maybe four or five years 370 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 8: after he made Ghost. He made to Julie Numar, thanks 371 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 8: for everything. To Wang Fu. I don't think that's the 372 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 8: right order. Anyway, it's a notoriously long movie title. And 373 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 8: I got to interview. 374 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: It's almost like six letters I think of it. 375 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 5: It's a really great movie. 376 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 8: But he was out doing like a promo tour and 377 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 8: he had like this sort of really nice little gathering 378 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 8: of journalists you could put him too this pool to 379 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 8: interview him, and luckily my name got caught up. So 380 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 8: we went into the Hiatt in the city and he 381 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 8: was absolutely charming. He was two hours late, but it 382 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 8: was worth the wait. 383 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 5: Because he just be honest. 384 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 3: Someone's towerlate. 385 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 2: I'm going off for half an hour, no once, And 386 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: Mick Jagger was about fifteen minutes late, and I said, 387 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 2: he's not a five minutes. 388 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 3: I can't be bothered. 389 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: Likes just too short. 390 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 5: This was Patrick Swayzey Jing and Ghost. 391 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: Anyway. 392 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 5: He was absolutely charming. He was very casually dressed, but 393 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 5: he just gave. 394 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 3: Us tell me how is it. 395 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 2: He's in a bin tong T shirt la casually? I 396 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 2: want to know? You know? 397 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 5: He had black levis on, a black T shirt and 398 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 5: black shoes. 399 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 2: He feels like he's come dressed as Patrick Swayzey. Yeah, yeah, 400 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: pretty much. He's wearing that roadhouse and turkey dancing. There's 401 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 2: nothing casual about that. He's coming out. He's coming costume, 402 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 2: not a hair. 403 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 5: Out of place, had makeup on because he's that's casually dress. 404 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: Find that right wearing makeup, you won't go oh Christians today? 405 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 5: Dressed down Wednesday anyway, he was on point and he 406 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 5: was just so lovely. There was about six of us 407 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 5: just sitting around a table chewing the fat with Patrick Swayzey. 408 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 5: She's just amazing. 409 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 2: A load of gushing going on. 410 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 8: He's after you, after you, but he was just really, 411 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 8: really sweet, and he was one of those sort of 412 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 8: people that when he looked at you, he looked right 413 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 8: into your eyes. 414 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: No he didn't, he looked through you. Go When can 415 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: I get out of here? 416 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 3: I held it off for two hours where they found 417 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 3: these women from so casually. 418 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 8: Anyway, it was absolutely charming, and what struck me was 419 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 8: just how laid back and how accommodating he was. 420 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 3: What was your favorite thing you talked about with Swayzey? 421 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 5: What's the favorite thing? 422 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 6: You know what? 423 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 2: I was like, I've got to be honest. 424 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 3: I was expecting more from the story, won't you? Jack? 425 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 2: Now? 426 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: Is it took two hours to even arrive in this story? 427 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 4: What was your number one question you asked? 428 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I actually can't remember what I asked him. I 429 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 5: remember I was very, very nervous. 430 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 8: But what I remember he told me about was he 431 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 8: was very spiritual, which was a side that I didn't 432 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 8: know about him. And he did lots of crystals and oils. 433 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 2: And that's all we got them out of like a 434 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 2: bag there and then no, no, no, but. 435 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 8: He smelt really good. 436 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: Great stuff, isn't it? 437 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: Christian Connell Show podcast. 438 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 2: We watched an epic nineties movie yesterday, Ghost Now. I 439 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 2: was hoping that i'd watch it again with my wife, 440 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: but she was out. My teenagers refused to sit down 441 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 2: and watch it with me because they were like, oh, 442 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 2: hang on a minute. When, as I said about every movie, 443 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 2: when I go, let's watch a movie, hang on it, 444 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: when was it My Way nineteen nineteen, They're like, forget it, 445 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 2: it's an old movie. 446 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 3: Right to them, that's a really old movie. Was what 447 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 3: black and white? Oh they were Charlie Chaplin. 448 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 4: They would be discussed with a special effects of the ghosts. 449 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 2: Ghost, You're right, the tic job generation aren't gonna dig go. 450 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 2: So basically, I watched it by myself yesterday evening, and 451 00:20:55,640 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: I still found myself crying alone on the couch. Gay 452 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 2: got me all those years later, what a movie? 453 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 3: Genuinely, I love watching it again. 454 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 2: I forgot what a great movie and it still stands up. 455 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 3: I didn't do that thing. You know now, when you're 456 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 3: streaming something, you press pause and you go how much 457 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 3: left on this? 458 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 2: So we're so rude, now, aren't we. You never used 459 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: to do that in this cinema. You just sat there 460 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: and absorbed it. You didn't even think about, like how 461 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 2: long its left on it? 462 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 3: You were lucky to be watching a movie. 463 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 4: I pretty much do that every week as we rewatch 464 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 4: an old film, it's pause and check how long it's 465 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 4: left on the time. Ghost is an exception. I've I've 466 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 4: never seen it before, and. 467 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 3: Hang on a minute. 468 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: This is gonna be a new side category right when 469 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 2: we do the movies. This is a non pauser This. 470 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 4: Is a non pauso wow all the way through, without 471 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 4: even getting up and walking around the hill. 472 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 2: It's got loads going on. It was they still set. 473 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 2: It was at the birth of the rom com really 474 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: because after that, you know, they became Harry met Sally 475 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 2: after that huge, mega success of this movie. But it's 476 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 2: actually more than a romantic comedy. It's got a lot 477 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: in this, this stuff about the afterlife. There's action scenes 478 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 2: in it or avenge story. 479 00:21:58,800 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 3: It's brilliant. 480 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 4: I thought it would be way more sappy just from 481 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 4: what I knew of the trailers. But yeah, there's murder, 482 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 4: money laundering, drug dealers, gunfights, and the part I love 483 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 4: the most is like Patrick Swayze for me, is the best. 484 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 2: Actor that on that right, he was on like a 485 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 2: four movie test. So if you think about it, did 486 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 2: Dirty Dancing in nineteen eighty seven, then he goes to 487 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 2: do a year and a half later Roadhouse, which we 488 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 2: reviewed on the show Non pauser I'm. 489 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 3: Getting as I loved Roadhouse. 490 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 2: Then a year later he does this ghost, right, biggest 491 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: movie of the nineties, and then he does Point Break 492 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: a year later. 493 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 3: That's quite a four movie tear. 494 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 4: What are you giving for acting in this movie because 495 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 4: why I loved him as a ghost. I did feel 496 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 4: like he hammed it up a few times during the movie. 497 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 2: For sure, when he's doing his whole convulsions when the 498 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 2: ghosts comes through him. 499 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 3: It's terrible. You're like, why didn't the director yell cut? 500 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 4: You know you're doing a great job. 501 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,479 Speaker 2: Ken, this is going to be huge at the box office. 502 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: What are you doing? 503 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 4: Pull back on some of those facial expressions. The one 504 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 4: I love the most the first time he becomes a 505 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 4: ghost and he realizes that he's a dead body and 506 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 4: he's in Demi Moore's arms. The look that he puts 507 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 4: on his face. Surely they wanted to cut down. 508 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 2: It looks like he'd watched a couple of episodes of 509 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: Home and Away and use some of the sort of 510 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: acting range in that to put it into a big 511 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 2: box office movie. It's so hammy, and the rest of it. 512 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 3: He's brilliant in it. 513 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 4: This is his face when he looks at himself for 514 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 4: the first time. 515 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,239 Speaker 3: That exactly Now. 516 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 2: I know it's radio, but we will put this up 517 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 2: on we do a compare a contrast with the actual movie. 518 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 2: So many other things I noticed watching it again because 519 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 2: I remember when this came out, it was obviously at 520 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: the cinema, right and I was going out with a 521 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 2: girl at the time, in nineteen ninety and she loved 522 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 2: it so much we had to go and watch it. 523 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 2: I watched it three times with her. You know when 524 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: you're really into someone and you put up with any 525 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 2: time to do anything, You just do anything just to 526 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 2: be near them. I was seventeen at the time. That's 527 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: not judged three times to see this at the movie anyway, 528 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 2: watching it again yesterday alone on a couch weeping in 529 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:55,719 Speaker 2: the darkness. 530 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 3: Demi Moore one ability, she can crown demand out of 531 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 3: I rye. 532 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 4: Did you notice that saw that separate falling tears? 533 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 2: I didn't notice sagon tears. Yeah. I actually rewound a 534 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: couple of times. 535 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 3: It's like, how does she do that? 536 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 2: That doesn't get enough credit? We got it, Perry put 537 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 2: that video up. She can cry demand, she can go 538 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: left right both at the same time, or again left alrighty. 539 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 4: It's impressive, as impressive as when you see a strong 540 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 4: man do peck peck peck. 541 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 3: Which it's tear teer, double tear? 542 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 2: Why did she? Why is it more made? 543 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 3: It got two oscars. 544 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 2: The movie Whoopy Godberg deserved an Oscar. She's incredible. Bear 545 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 2: in mind she doesn't turn up to the start the 546 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 2: second third. I think she's like forty minutes in. She's 547 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 2: amazing and it's Swayzey's great. You also won an Oscar 548 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 2: forout original screenplay. They wanted to write a movie. The 549 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 2: guy won the Oscar for it from the point of 550 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 2: view of a ghost. And actually, when you watch the 551 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: movie knowing that, you get it is very much on 552 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 2: Swayzey's point of view. There are some great scenes in it. 553 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: It's amazing money. 554 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: Oh I love and say the back of the couch, 555 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,239 Speaker 2: dig it with you? What about that did scene? Did 556 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: that movie you? 557 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 4: I loved the Yeah, me too. 558 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: I love you, I really love you. 559 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 2: And my other favorite scene is the first time that 560 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 2: Demi Moore goes to see this mystic would be Goldbu 561 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 2: and sways the armn there even though she can't see him. 562 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 2: He's a ghost. He's there. What a crack he delivers 563 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 2: that line. It's so funny. 564 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 3: I remember in the cinema still he got such a 565 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 3: big laugh. I just love when he goes a crack. 566 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: This is the Christian o'connells show. Podcast. 567 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 2: All right, let's get into the ages and the nineties. 568 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 2: The movie that Jack and I watched again was The 569 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 2: Great from nineteen ninety one, and I mean that actually, 570 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 2: seriously to me, a great movie. 571 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 3: I'm not sure that Jackie Grees point Break, Point Break. 572 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 3: If you're like, which one was that in the nineties? 573 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: Come on, you must remember this. Keanu Reeves, I mean 574 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 2: a real Wooden like did he take any acting classes? 575 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 3: Really would? 576 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 2: And Keanu Reeves and then Swayze, who was on like 577 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 2: a four movie tear. He'd done Dirty Dancing in nineteen 578 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 2: eighty nine, Roadhouse also in nineteen eighty nine, Ghost in 579 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety and then followed that a year later with 580 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 2: this movie Point Break, and also a prime time He 581 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 2: had like a caged. 582 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 3: Raccoon energy, didn't he? Gary Boosey really did. 583 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 2: And if you try to cast your mind back, I mean, 584 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: how is this acting? 585 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 3: Why didn't anyone yell cut, I am. 586 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 2: An app be I'm agent. 587 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 4: We think now, as Keanu Reeves is a great actor, 588 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 4: and he did become a lot better, but he was 589 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 4: stilted in this stage of his career. But still some 590 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 4: of the scenes in this movie Point Break as a 591 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 4: whole lots of potholes, but I do want to honor. 592 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 2: I remember when I went to see at cinema and 593 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: I was so excited because I love Swayze in Roadhouse, right, 594 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 2: and as a teenager in the in the nineties, I 595 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 2: just want to be Dalton. And then when I heard 596 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 2: he had another movie and he was a bank robber, 597 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 2: It's like, this looks great Keanu Reeves and it from 598 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 2: Bill and Ted, and he just had Bogus Journey out 599 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: that year as well, so we're super excited. And then 600 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 2: you chuck in Gary Bousey and a really weird cameo 601 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 2: for the leading of the Red or Chili Peppers that is, 602 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: and then surfing Nazis. That's a lot of law Mower 603 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 2: seeing a dog being thrown in someone's face. 604 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 3: That's a hell of a good time. 605 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 4: Top three action scenes in the film, and in many 606 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 4: action fields. 607 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 2: But first of all, though, when you talk about the holes, immediately, 608 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 2: it's got so many holes. You're like, how did this 609 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,719 Speaker 2: get off the ground? I love bank heist movies, right, 610 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 2: but this one is threadbare. First of all, Gary Boosey 611 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: is the worst detective in the world. He's been trying 612 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 2: to track them down for three years, and there it's 613 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 2: real obvious who it is and where they hide out 614 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: at the beach. They love surfing and they hang out 615 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 2: together every day surfing. It's very obvious they're taken down. 616 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 3: What is he gonna go, say, the thirty banks in 617 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 3: three years? 618 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 2: Like, how crap are you thirty banks in three years? 619 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 2: They're so productive? You haven't caught them yet. Because he's 620 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 2: thinking the meat more sandwiches. 621 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 4: He keeps going on about he has one bit of 622 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 4: evidence from thirty bank robberies, so that one hair. 623 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 3: That he goes, yeah, that's it. 624 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 2: And then they decide, like Johnny Utah the movie was 625 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: going to be called Johnny Utah is Keannie Reeves character's 626 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 2: name in this And they decide the best way to 627 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 2: take down this game. The Boosie's had no success with 628 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 2: three because he crap, you've gotta go undercover. So of 629 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 2: course it's going to undercover. He's like an alibi, I 630 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 2: need a faint name. No, they don't even bother. Also, 631 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 2: Johnny Utah is the most memorable name in the world ever. 632 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 2: It's not like Ted Smith. We go that, what's that guy? 633 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 2: Barry Smith? 634 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 3: Is it John Smith? 635 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 2: Johnny Utah. 636 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 4: Other fake name was going under cover one oh one, 637 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 4: but no Johnny, he says, he actually yells out on 638 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 4: the beach, my name's Johnny Utah. 639 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: Is that then they all go when they have that 640 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: strange American football scene on the beach as well? There, 641 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: don't you know who know what? This guy is his 642 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: Johnny Utah. He's now blowing all of his covers. What 643 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 2: are the other favorite action scenes? The parachuting scene is 644 00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 2: still great. 645 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 4: That's actually what one of the best action scenes in 646 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 4: any film, jumping out of a plane without a parachute 647 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 4: on still the pothole there is Why would why would 648 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 4: Patrick Swayze's character leave his gun behind jump out of 649 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 4: a plane only for Keiana Reeves to come chase him. 650 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 2: He's not about the threat of the waves? Man? 651 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 4: Why did they just keep not just that? 652 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 2: How can you have a conversation at how high were they? 653 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: Because they were free falling for about ten minutes. They 654 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 2: still have an eighty k's up in the sky and 655 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 2: they're talking like you and I right now, pull this thread? 656 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 3: Pull the thread. 657 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 4: That and the lawnmower scene where Keano reads his face 658 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 4: to face with the underside of a lawnmower about to 659 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 4: get his face clipped off, and then he comes in 660 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 4: Saves of the Day by shooting the lawnmower. Loved that. 661 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 2: And then what about the final scene right where they 662 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 2: go to Bell's Beach, which now everyone knows was not 663 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 2: Bell's beach at all, and even says, what are we 664 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 2: going to do when he finally gets his man, right, 665 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 2: he finally gets body who's named after butda Vista, which 666 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,959 Speaker 2: means enlightened being becoming Buddha, And they had no irony 667 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: about that. You watch this movie, and I know people 668 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 2: worried about Daniel da Lewis and Christian Beld no one 669 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 2: is more committed he is Buddha in this movie. 670 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 3: It's ways he's gone, He's gone, he went deep. 671 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 2: Anyway, he finally gets his man. They have that fight 672 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 2: scene in the scene, which is a great fight scene, 673 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 2: and then Yo see her in the next live I 674 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 2: still figures a great ending as well. And the idea 675 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 2: of the fifty year storm. As soon as you hear 676 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: about that fifty year storm at the beginning of the movie, 677 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 2: at the coumpfin scene, you go, that's going to come 678 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 2: back in this movie. Even googled it yesterday to check. 679 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 4: My problem with the final scene is so he lets 680 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 4: the cops are storming the beach is land. 681 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 2: There, we got him. 682 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 4: Although Johnny Utai goes, you know what, that wave is 683 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 4: going to kill you anyway, go and surf the wave 684 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 4: and it's going to perish you. 685 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 2: Fifty year storm. 686 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 4: Johnny Utah starts walking off the beach before he even 687 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 4: knows if he's drowned or not. He could have well 688 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 4: survived that way. 689 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 2: Well, Gary Busey, Gary Boosey waited three years and then 690 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 2: let we're going to go for a swim. 691 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 3: So Mark's for the seminole point break. 692 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 4: Oh for scenes. For great scenes four and a half 693 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 4: out of five. For a movie as a whole with 694 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 4: the plot holes two out of five. 695 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 2: Oh no, Jack, here's a sonic bie from. 696 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 3: Me, toler brighter. 697 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: Now you're listening to the Christian O Kyle's Show podcast