Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. You're joined by journalists Amy
Speaker 1: and Sophie Torber for our very special Under the Influence episode.
Speaker 1: And we are so excited to be joined but probably
Speaker 1: the most talked about Married at First Sight contestant from
Speaker 1: this year, Martha. Martha, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2: No worries, all good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, We're so excited to speak with you because you
Speaker 1: are you are our favorite or married at first Sight.
Speaker 2: I have to say, oh my god when people tell
Speaker 2: me that, I really find it hard to believe that.
Speaker 2: So actually I was actually so shocking. But okay, I'll
Speaker 2: take it.
Speaker 1: Well, because you brought the entertainment every week.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons why people chune into a
Speaker 1: show like that, is I mean, I, for one, I
Speaker 1: loved when you threw the wine. I just was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, she went there.
Speaker 2: You loved when I threw the wine. Okay, I like you.
Speaker 2: We can be friends.
Speaker 1: Oh look, we've all been in those situations, haven't we.
Speaker 2: I've never done anything like that ever before, Like I
Speaker 2: have never ever. I'm usually not really I'm not really
Speaker 2: that like aggressive. I've never been violence or anything like
Speaker 2: that ever. And I feel like I was in a
Speaker 2: position though that like I've never like my blood boiled
Speaker 2: to new levels, like new levels.
Speaker 1: Well I think also, people know when they're watching reality
Speaker 1: TV they were only seeing one part of someone's personality anyway,
Speaker 1: So I'm sure there's lots of you that we perhaps
Speaker 1: didn't see. Was it frustrating that perhaps the other sides
Speaker 1: of you weren't portrayed as much as this other side.
Speaker 2: Was so annoying, so annoying because like you, nobody really
Speaker 2: gets to see like I am fiercely loyal, like to
Speaker 2: my friends, to my partner, Like I just feel like
Speaker 2: no one gets to see any of that, And that
Speaker 2: was like the really annoying part. Like, yeah, I can
Speaker 2: be cheeky and funny and I can say silly things,
Speaker 2: but like I'm also like a really loyal person, and
Speaker 2: I feel like everyone really overlooked how like loyal and
Speaker 2: how much effort I put into actually, you know, getting
Speaker 2: to know Michael, and like Michael wasn't necessarily my type,
Speaker 2: but yet I really like put in the effort to
Speaker 2: peel back the layers and get to know him, you know,
Speaker 2: I feel like it was so overlooked. Everyone overlooked that.
Speaker 1: And it is, and I think it shows how fiercely
Speaker 1: loyal you are and what type of person you are
Speaker 1: that you're still with Michael. It shows how successful that
Speaker 1: relationship is. And we have to say congratulations. I hear
Speaker 1: it was your one year anniversary last month.
Speaker 2: No, it's crazy, though, that is crazy, Like, no one
Speaker 2: is more shocked than us.
Speaker 1: Well, we loved how you celebrated your one year anniversary.
Speaker 1: I've heard so much online about the picture you posted.
Speaker 1: Can you explain it to people who haven't seen it.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's just a photo of us too. Like we
Speaker 2: had just come up from the pool. We're a few
Speaker 2: margaritas deep, and I were just sitting on the balcony.
Speaker 2: There was a really nice sunset. I was just you know,
Speaker 2: I didn't have clothes on because I was about to
Speaker 2: have a shower actually, and I just thought, my god,
Speaker 2: how do we look out here in this light? Quickly
Speaker 2: get the selfie light out of the photo.
Speaker 1: It's a great pick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was I didn't think. To be honest, I
Speaker 2: didn't even think it was racy or anything. But I
Speaker 2: feel like I don't know, I honestly don't know why
Speaker 2: people made such a big deal out of it. I
Speaker 2: swear to you girls, I do not understand it. Like
Speaker 2: my grandmother is like, she's like, please please, I want
Speaker 2: these framed for my house. I'm like, oh really, She's like,
Speaker 2: it's so sexy. I love it. I'm like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's got the approval of my grandparents. Like, how come
Speaker 2: everyone else finds it so shocking?
Speaker 1: What a cool grandma though, I think that's amazing.
Speaker 2: She's so cool.
Speaker 1: I suppose that's the best kind of Instagram, Isn't it
Speaker 1: to get people talking? I mean, to be honest, it
Speaker 1: really wasn't. It didn't really show that much other than
Speaker 1: the side of your body, so it is quite I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think people just want to have a go.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's Australians like particularly, I think I
Speaker 2: was in I was in America like after that happened,
Speaker 2: and I just feel like, you know, people there are
Speaker 2: so much more liberated and open minded, and even the
Speaker 2: things that they talk about so publicly, they're like, if
Speaker 2: we were to talk like that here, people would have
Speaker 2: so many opinions about it. But I think personally, it's
Speaker 2: just my opinion. I think like Australians were so sensitive
Speaker 2: to everything, especially anything to do with sex or or
Speaker 2: anything like that. I feel like, Oh, we're so, we're so,
Speaker 2: we're not uninhibited, that's what we're not.
Speaker 1: I think they also have Sorry, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: the case of tall poppy syndrome. And I feel like
Speaker 1: if anyone is seen to be doing well or you know,
Speaker 1: there might be people that are jealous that you're in
Speaker 1: this successful relationship. I feel like that's when people lash
Speaker 1: out a lot, particularly Australians.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent, the tall poppy syndrome thing, Like,
Speaker 2: I totally agree with that. And I feel like even
Speaker 2: before I, you know, was on the show and had
Speaker 2: a relationship, I felt like in my career, like in
Speaker 2: my job as a makeup artist, I felt like I
Speaker 2: really struggled with tall poppy syndrome a lot, especially mostly
Speaker 2: from other women. You know.
Speaker 1: Oh definitely. Well, can you tell us a little bit
Speaker 1: about what life was actually like before married at First Sight,
Speaker 1: because I mean, as we can see, it's changed significantly.
Speaker 2: Life before MATHS was, Oh my god, I missed my
Speaker 2: little life before Maks was such a I was so
Speaker 2: chill and like I used to work. I worked a lot.
Speaker 2: I was like a workaholic. I was I was really
Speaker 2: really passionate about like makeup and beauty and things like that.
Speaker 2: I've always been creepy about that sort of stuff. But
Speaker 2: I guess, like I guess I could say I was
Speaker 2: a workaholic. I had quite a actually I had quite
Speaker 2: a balanced life. I like to work out a lot.
Speaker 2: I worked a few different jobs, and I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: just I was living in Bondai, so it was nice.
Speaker 2: I like to spend a lot of time outdoors. Like,
Speaker 2: what do you want to know?
Speaker 1: Oh, I think that's great. It's really interesting because I
Speaker 1: feel like they don't show that much about your previous
Speaker 1: life and career, so it is really interesting that you
Speaker 1: were a makeup artist. But what was it you think
Speaker 1: that made you want to sign up for the show
Speaker 1: in the first place.
Speaker 2: Well, I didn't actually sign up for the show. I
Speaker 2: didn't put myself forward. I was approached by the by
Speaker 2: the production company.
Speaker 1: So were you out and about or was this just
Speaker 1: sort of like an a random email or INSTAGRAMO.
Speaker 2: I was actually at work and these two ladies just
Speaker 2: approached me and we were talking, and like I was
Speaker 2: just being myself. I'm like really bubbly and especially at work,
Speaker 2: like when I have it when I'm having like an
Speaker 2: interaction and like sometimes you know, you meet people randomly,
Speaker 2: but you can still have quite meaningful interactions. And I
Speaker 2: feel like we were having like a meaningful interaction with
Speaker 2: these ladies. And they they randomly asked me about like, oh,
Speaker 2: do you know any nice restaurants for dinner around here?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, to be honest, girls, I just moved here,
Speaker 2: so I don't really know that many places. And they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: did you move up here with your husband? And I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm single. Like I'm like so single, like
Speaker 2: it's almost going to be ten years I've been single.
Speaker 2: And then they go, oh, my god, do you want
Speaker 2: to be on this show? Blah blah blah. And I
Speaker 2: was like, no, no, no, no, I'm not interested at all.
Speaker 2: And one of the one of the guys that I
Speaker 2: worked with, it's another makeup artist, he gave them my
Speaker 2: number secretly, and it all happened from there. It just yeah,
Speaker 2: they contacted me and just thought I'd be a great fit.
Speaker 2: And yeah, they just convinced me it'd be really fun.
Speaker 2: And I mean, looking back at it now, it has
Speaker 2: been a lot of fun, and it has been a
Speaker 2: massive learning experience. But yeah, that's how it happened.
Speaker 1: That's pretty funny because we're all we're triplets and we
Speaker 1: actually got approached as well. I think it was the
Speaker 1: series when they had the twins and we were just
Speaker 1: sitting at a restaurant and this producer came up to
Speaker 1: us and was like, oh, are you guys interested? And
Speaker 1: I think we all had boyfriends at the time, so
Speaker 1: but they must have been really keen on you to
Speaker 1: keep persisting because we didn't get we didn't get the
Speaker 1: follow up. Then that's a misperception when people watch maths
Speaker 1: is they think that everybody's applied, and then there's a
Speaker 1: connotation that you're only applying to get insta fame or whatever.
Speaker 2: Oh that's that was like really annoying, Like people these
Speaker 2: assumptions and then they're like this, you're stuck with the label,
Speaker 2: like you're stuck with that because someone has assumed that
Speaker 2: it's so annoying. But no, it's like it wasn't at all. Honestly,
Speaker 2: I thought it would be a it would just be
Speaker 2: a fun experience and it was something I could have
Speaker 2: fun with. I did not expect to actually meet somebody
Speaker 2: and have you know, a year down the track and
Speaker 2: still be with that person.
Speaker 1: And had you watched Maths before you went on?
Speaker 2: I had watched the season before, but that is it.
Speaker 2: I haven't like seen other ones, and I hadn't seen
Speaker 2: any other ones. I honestly thought that the season before
Speaker 2: was like the first it's a brand new show, like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, have you seen this show? I didn't
Speaker 2: know it was. It was like the sixth or seventh season.
Speaker 2: I didn't know.
Speaker 1: Well, it has changed a lot because I think at
Speaker 1: the start, soph and I both watched the first series
Speaker 1: and it was very different. I think the experts sort
Speaker 1: of really went in there wanting to match people. It
Speaker 1: was more of a kind of fly on the wall
Speaker 1: kind of look at it. But it really has changed
Speaker 1: so much drama. And one of the things that I
Speaker 1: loved especially about this series of Maths was, of course
Speaker 1: the dinner parties. Are you able to give us Are
Speaker 1: you able to fill us in a little bit about
Speaker 1: what the reality of those dinner parties are, because I've
Speaker 1: heard they go for hours and hours and hours, and
Speaker 1: it's it's not a.
Speaker 2: Real dinner party at all. It's a dinner party that
Speaker 2: starts at around eleven am. Then it's just like a
Speaker 2: lot of waiting around, a lot of intervals. Yeah, just
Speaker 2: a lot of Most of the dinner party were all
Speaker 2: separated and just having one on one chats to like
Speaker 2: a producer and the camera.
Speaker 1: Uh so, yeah, what about the do they turn the
Speaker 1: heat up? Because I heard that was a rumor because
Speaker 1: I noticed people were quite sweating, quite profusely during the
Speaker 1: dinner parties. Is it really hot in there?
Speaker 2: Oh, the room does not have heating oreic on. It's
Speaker 2: literally just like a like a like a shed. So
Speaker 2: like if it's hot, if it's hot, it is like
Speaker 2: stinging hot. And if it's raining, usually filming cut because
Speaker 2: you can't hear any And if it's cold, it's freezing.
Speaker 2: It's sort of like that. And so it is warm
Speaker 2: in Sydney during the months that we film. But no,
Speaker 2: I don't think they like try and like make you
Speaker 2: you know, like make it hot or anything like that.
Speaker 2: It's not it's not that bad.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to if they turn the heat up
Speaker 1: to try and make you drink more, if that was
Speaker 1: one of their sort.
Speaker 2: Of Oh, but they cut you off if they see
Speaker 2: you as like if they think that they if that
Speaker 2: you're really drunk, they cut you off. But I just
Speaker 2: feel like I just feel like they pick how to
Speaker 2: cut people, they just don't pick the right people to
Speaker 2: cut off. I feel like poor Michael would have like
Speaker 2: one drink and they'd be like, oh, Michael, you cut off.
Speaker 2: I would be like blind drunk with my eyes rolling
Speaker 2: back into my head, and they would keep like serving
Speaker 2: my wine.
Speaker 1: Does anyone trust you with red wine?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Has that been like a long running joke? No one
Speaker 1: would give it to you.
Speaker 2: No, anyone who knows me, who knows me, trust me
Speaker 2: with it. But the next day on the set, it
Speaker 2: was so funny because all the camera men in the
Speaker 2: audio guys were like, I had asked for some almond
Speaker 2: milk to make a protein shake, and everyone was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. Maybe like let's not
Speaker 2: give very anything like that.
Speaker 1: To be fair, didn't didn't Irel throw a fruit bowl
Speaker 1: at you as well? Previous wasn't that?
Speaker 2: Oh no, she had come into my apartment. She did
Speaker 2: throw Oh she threw everything inside at me. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I loved how you stood there with your face mask
Speaker 1: on the whole time though. That was probably my favorite episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it takes a lot for me to take
Speaker 2: off a face mask.
Speaker 1: Okay, talking about Sorel. Were you surprised to hear the
Speaker 1: news that, well, it's a bit of old news now
Speaker 1: that she's having a baby with Eden from Love Island.
Speaker 2: Oh, I actually just heard that they just broke up,
Speaker 2: and I was like, I was so shook about it,
Speaker 2: Like I actually got like I was. I felt so
Speaker 2: bad for her, Like I was actually saying to Michael, like,
Speaker 2: and he looked at me, like a few hours later
Speaker 2: and I was still reading the same article that he
Speaker 2: had said that he showed me. He's like, why are
Speaker 2: you still reading that? I'm like, I really can't get
Speaker 2: over it. I think it's actually quite devastating, Like it's devastating,
Speaker 2: but no, look, I mean it's been a really this
Speaker 2: year for us. I can imagine for Cyrel as well,
Speaker 2: has been crazy, and I feel like only now is
Speaker 2: everything starting to settle. But I feel like she's in
Speaker 2: a new relationship as well with Eat and all she
Speaker 2: was and I just feel like I feel like, oh,
Speaker 2: I think it's taken a while for us to like
Speaker 2: just even get our bearings back. And I mean I
Speaker 2: wasn't shocked by it. I don't know these things happen.
Speaker 2: It's you know, when you're having unprotected sex, you could
Speaker 2: get pregnant, like the roof of the Drew. No, I
Speaker 2: don't think I was that shocked. I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't know really, to be honest, I didn't really think
Speaker 2: about it that much, but I was really upset to
Speaker 2: hear that they broke up. I really I feel for her.
Speaker 1: Well, it seems like from what we've saw she did
Speaker 1: have she's got a fiery personality, so hopefully it's just
Speaker 1: a fight that's but.
Speaker 2: I also feel like she comes from such a strong
Speaker 2: family unit that she would want her baby to have
Speaker 2: that as well, and I feel like it would be devastating.
Speaker 2: I feel like probably, I don't know. I don't want
Speaker 2: to blame it, but I just feel like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: like he.
Speaker 1: Does a great track record, does he?
Speaker 2: Yeah? He doesn't. We're not from what I don't really
Speaker 2: know that much about either, but I feel like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And talking of other castmates, and there's rumors obviously
Speaker 1: at the moment, that Jessica Power is going to be
Speaker 1: appearing on Love Island. What do you make of all
Speaker 1: of that?
Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you for a fact that the
Speaker 2: contract that we've signed with Channel nine is like ironclad,
Speaker 2: and I doubt that Jessica Power is going to be
Speaker 2: able to get out of it. So we actually can't
Speaker 2: work with any other networks or shows or wearing a contract.
Speaker 2: So I think it's a rumor.
Speaker 1: Are you what is the status of your friendship with
Speaker 1: Jess because you were close on the show, but was
Speaker 1: there a bit of a riff between you guys after filming.
Speaker 2: I just feel like the friendship with Jess was really
Speaker 2: for it was really sort of I guess, encouraged by
Speaker 2: producers and really for the show. Jess is not somebody
Speaker 2: I would have a relationship with in real life or
Speaker 2: or even like associate with somebody. Not like saying wrong
Speaker 2: with her, but she's just not my people. You know.
Speaker 1: Talking about producers, do you guys have a really good
Speaker 1: relationship with them or is it? Does it start off
Speaker 1: good and then when you see the show.
Speaker 2: My were some producers that were well, really pushy and
Speaker 2: they really didn't care about your well being. But my producer,
Speaker 2: sweetest man, he was really caring and like he could
Speaker 2: tell when we were becoming you know, when something was
Speaker 2: pushing us to our limits, and he would push back,
Speaker 2: whereas usually another producer would see you getting flustered and
Speaker 2: would actually like you know, push for more and more
Speaker 2: to bring you to breaking point.
Speaker 1: That is good that he was actually looking out for you.
Speaker 1: Just moving on to life after maths. What was it
Speaker 1: like becoming an influencer? Because we see all the glitz
Speaker 1: and glamour, but what is it really like?
Speaker 2: There's so much pressure and like today, like this weekend
Speaker 2: for example, I have literally been a demon to everyone
Speaker 2: around me because there's so much pressure. I have deadlines
Speaker 2: and I have like making content is so so much
Speaker 2: goes into it. Also, it's hard because you have to
Speaker 2: constantly be on, Like you have to constantly be on
Speaker 2: and like witty and funny and make jokes and like
Speaker 2: even like just when you're like filming something, you know,
Speaker 2: like sometimes you wake up and you're just like nah,
Speaker 2: I can't be bothered living today, But you have to
Speaker 2: film something for a brand and they need the content
Speaker 2: you just it comes across on camera, like it comes
Speaker 2: across in your stories or in your videos that like
Speaker 2: when you're not vibing, and I really like, for me,
Speaker 2: it's so important to be like authentic and to be
Speaker 2: genuine and I feel like when I'm faking it, I
Speaker 2: just I don't know, I just I don't like it.
Speaker 1: And I suppose it's hard for you too, because you
Speaker 1: want to be authentic, but then you probably don't really
Speaker 1: feel like putting your bad days out there because as
Speaker 1: soon as you put something up, the daily mail jumps
Speaker 1: in it or you cop something probably from a troll,
Speaker 1: and that quite difficult sharing you know, real things that
Speaker 1: you're going through as well.
Speaker 2: I mean some things I don't I don't put out there,
Speaker 2: like I like to try and keep my relationship just
Speaker 2: like the like, you know, we put a lot out there,
Speaker 2: but there's a lot of it that we don't put
Speaker 2: out as well. And like definitely one hundred percent there's
Speaker 2: things that I don't like to share. But I feel
Speaker 2: like the more and more it goes on and the
Speaker 2: more I'm getting used to it all, I feel like
Speaker 2: there are trolls, but then like there's also really supportive
Speaker 2: people out there, and it's so refreshing and nice to
Speaker 2: like hear from them, and everyone like will send you
Speaker 2: a little message and your DM and it's just and
Speaker 2: it's just nice. It really it makes your day a
Speaker 2: little bit better and it's just it's just reassuring to
Speaker 2: know that there's there's nice people out there, but you know,
Speaker 2: it's not as easy as everyone thinks, and like it's exhausting,
Speaker 2: like I don't really get to see my friends and family.
Speaker 2: I'm always traveling. But then also I don't want to
Speaker 2: complain about it. If anyone is complaining about being an influencer,
Speaker 2: then they don't deserve about that to do it because
Speaker 2: it is also a lot of fun and there's also
Speaker 2: a lot of perks.
Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned that there's obviously a lot of support,
Speaker 1: but then there's also trolls, and I think there was
Speaker 1: a post, oh, I think it was a few months
Speaker 1: back that you shared of yourself in Greece and you
Speaker 1: were holding a cigarette, and there were some people that
Speaker 1: slammed you, saying you're glamorizing smoking, but other people jumped
Speaker 1: to your defense. Were you surprised by the comments, especially
Speaker 1: the comments about you being a role model. Do you
Speaker 1: actually consider yourself a role model?
Speaker 2: I feel like the last thing I was doing was
Speaker 2: glamorizing smoking. I think I mentioned in the posts as well,
Speaker 2: this was the only photo that me and my stick
Speaker 2: got together, and the whole wedding, and I just posted
Speaker 2: it because it was like, really a cute picture of her.
Speaker 2: But I feel like the last thing I was doing
Speaker 2: with glamorizing smoking. I'm never smoking in my videos or
Speaker 2: glamorizing it ever. But also I just feel like I'm
Speaker 2: human man, Like I'm allowed to have a smoke at
Speaker 2: a wedding, Like I'm not apologizing for it.
Speaker 1: I feel like you'll be a good sister there if
Speaker 1: you you know, often it's a will post a photo
Speaker 1: that they look good in, not the other cigamore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, correct.
Speaker 1: So it say it's a case of being a good
Speaker 1: system for having a cigarette. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's funny because that that article actually made it to
Speaker 2: news dot com and my dad reads news dot com,
Speaker 2: And the next morning we were at breakfast at the
Speaker 2: hotel and he's like, oh, they're you know, you're glamorizing
Speaker 2: smoking this article saying. I'm like, but I'm not, And
Speaker 2: he's like, I just think even that. Dad's like, I
Speaker 2: think you need to be careful what you put out there,
Speaker 2: because you know, young people, young girls are gonna look
Speaker 2: at it and then like you might influence them. I'm like, man,
Speaker 2: young girls have mothers at smoke like young girls have
Speaker 2: aunties at smoke. You know, I'm not the influence for that.
Speaker 2: I don't think like I think I'm a I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just feel like, am I a role model for
Speaker 2: for for like? I don't know. I actually don't know,
Speaker 2: don't you guys? I don't know.
Speaker 1: At least it made you think about it though, because
Speaker 1: I mean, it's good to hear that you know, have
Speaker 1: that a by assume your dad, because I suppose now
Speaker 1: that it's out there, you probably probably do think more
Speaker 1: about the posts that you put up. I'm going into
Speaker 1: something though, that you have been very honest about. You
Speaker 1: have been quite open about using apps for editing or
Speaker 1: photoshopping photos. Do you think it'd be good if more
Speaker 1: influencers were more transparent about it too? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean, I just feel like it's one of those
Speaker 2: things that they're either going to be open about it
Speaker 2: or they're not. I just feel like you can see,
Speaker 2: like when someone's edited a photo and they are just
Speaker 2: digging their grave thing I did and I didn't. I
Speaker 2: did this, I can't you're talking to like the panel
Speaker 2: of professionals here like week with you can't like And
Speaker 2: the more and more they go on about it. It's
Speaker 2: just like, give it up, already, give it up, give
Speaker 2: it up, just say say that you did it, like
Speaker 2: you're human. Will let it them. But I feel like
Speaker 2: I've been really open about everything, even like surgery, fillers everything.
Speaker 2: I just it's I've always been like that. I've always
Speaker 2: been someone that's super open and even like if it's
Speaker 2: like if I've got a really good product or something,
Speaker 2: I'll tell everyone about it. I'm not the person has
Speaker 2: found like an amazing face cream and like keeps it
Speaker 2: as a secret or do you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: That's not me at all. I'm like the most open, transparent.
Speaker 2: I say everything. Sometimes it can be a bad thing.
Speaker 1: But well, the other day I've read this article and
Speaker 1: it was about a Love Island contestant in the UK,
Speaker 1: and she was basically saying that before the show she
Speaker 1: had plastic surgery because she often got criticized about the
Speaker 1: way she looked. But then it really made me think
Speaker 1: because she said that now she's copying criticism for changing
Speaker 1: her appearance despite people being so awful. So it's kind
Speaker 1: of almost this lose lose situation where you know, you
Speaker 1: get canned for having something wrong. With you, you change it,
Speaker 1: and then you're still being criticized. Do you find do
Speaker 1: you find that it's true?
Speaker 2: I just feel like this is what I know for
Speaker 2: a fact. You will never make everyone happy, and there's
Speaker 2: always going to be somebody who has something to say
Speaker 2: about what you've done. You will never ever make everyone happy.
Speaker 2: Like that is. Just accept it and then you're at peace.
Speaker 1: That's such bad.
Speaker 2: Like even if you do even if you do something right,
Speaker 2: like even if to go and say donate one hundred
Speaker 2: K to charity, someone would come around and say, but
Speaker 2: why did you choose that charity and not this one?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, it doesn't matter even
Speaker 2: if you're doing something from the bottom of your heart
Speaker 2: and you know, with all good intentions, it's always going
Speaker 2: to be some idiot that has something to say.
Speaker 1: Talking about criticism and always colling criticism. You shared a
Speaker 1: post that was raising awareness about bullying and the hero
Speaker 1: t shirts, and I thought that was an amazing post
Speaker 1: because you spoke about the bullying you faced as a tach.
Speaker 2: You've never really spoken about it before because I just
Speaker 2: feel like, oh, everyone's gonna have something to say about it.
Speaker 2: But I had a really hard upbringing my dad's job.
Speaker 2: We used to move around all the time. Like I
Speaker 2: went to like fourteen different schools growing up, Like we
Speaker 2: were constantly moving. I mean when I started school, I
Speaker 2: couldn't speak any English. I I couldn't. I had no
Speaker 2: friends for a long time, and like it was hard
Speaker 2: to make friends. And I feel like that that was
Speaker 2: my foundation. From young like I struggled and I was
Speaker 2: you know, always sort of like left out. I had
Speaker 2: to see a speech therapist. I couldn't speak properly because
Speaker 2: I only learned how to speak Greek from young. So
Speaker 2: I was always made fun of. I was literally the
Speaker 2: only Greek girl. Like I grew up in aubrew Wadonka.
Speaker 2: I was the only Greek girl maybe in all of
Speaker 2: aubrew Adonka. Like nobody had an eyebrow that touched in
Speaker 2: the middle, nobody had like the black hair, like you know,
Speaker 2: like I was. I was always made fun of and
Speaker 2: teased and tormented. Even going into high school. Misha Baden
Speaker 2: was the girl, and like she's tall and skinny with
Speaker 2: like this really like smooth hair, and I was nothing
Speaker 2: like that, you know, I was even made fun of
Speaker 2: even through high school. I was always really, you know,
Speaker 2: trying to put my ass into a pair of hipster
Speaker 2: jeans was not was not cute at all. Like my
Speaker 2: mom would always be like, funny, those jeans aren't for you.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, but that's what everyone's wearing, you know.
Speaker 1: Did you have those face off pants?
Speaker 2: Those? Nah? I didn't do the face off I did
Speaker 2: the my ticos. Okay, yeah, they were like the Figger stretch.
Speaker 2: You're a bit more bougie ones.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, so you reveal
Speaker 1: this story about your life, I suppose a lot of
Speaker 1: people can ren too. And then and from Billy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I thought that's what I thought as well, like,
Speaker 2: surely there's other girls that can relate to this, Like,
Speaker 2: surely there is. But everyone you know what though, girls
Speaker 2: in all honesty, like I could have just archived the post.
Speaker 2: But the more trolls that, you know, right on it,
Speaker 2: the more the more interaction it gets, and then the
Speaker 2: more awareness it actually spreads. So in saying that, yeah,
Speaker 2: there were a lot of trolls and a lot of
Speaker 2: nasty comments, but if only people knew that those nasty
Speaker 2: comments they send and they like on my wall, actually
Speaker 2: my pay you know, presence on social media then probably
Speaker 2: wouldn't have as many. So I like to keep that and.
Speaker 1: As long as there was one person, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, there probably would have been one young girl
Speaker 1: out there that could relate to your story who's perhaps
Speaker 1: going through boos.
Speaker 2: Ways, even if it's just one person that I can help,
Speaker 2: all that benefits from it unhappy.
Speaker 1: And just to put that into context, because people may
Speaker 1: have actually forgotten who Billy is because from married it
Speaker 1: First site.
Speaker 2: I don't even want to give him any time, like
Speaker 2: to even mention him, to be honest, but let's just say.
Speaker 1: It to the listeners. It was somebody from Married It
Speaker 1: First and he made some comments about Martha that were
Speaker 1: really uncalled for. It's just ridiculous when you're out there
Speaker 1: trying to do some good.
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, Like like I said, like, I didn't
Speaker 2: even want to give him any attention because like for me,
Speaker 2: he doesn't exist in my world. I don't think about
Speaker 2: him ever, so I didn't even notice.
Speaker 1: Is there anyone that you do catch up with still
Speaker 1: from maths?
Speaker 2: No? No one?
Speaker 1: Oh wow, really no one?
Speaker 2: No one? Really no, I don't really like apart from
Speaker 2: a little DM to one of the girls here and there.
Speaker 1: But no, no, have you seen the rumors that Elizabeth
Speaker 1: is going to be appearing in the latest series?
Speaker 2: No, no, I haven't. But guys, I'll be honest, most
Speaker 2: of it's like rumors, like I doubt any of it's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do wonder if it's all clickbait, but apparently,
Speaker 1: I mean these are sources. I think nine had their upfront,
Speaker 1: so they showed a few images of the new Brides.
Speaker 1: But it's a it's a pretty strong rumor going out
Speaker 1: there that she gets introduced as an intruder. Then again,
Speaker 1: it was a strong rumor about Jessica Power as well,
Speaker 1: and we've seen that, so Martha's probably right.
Speaker 2: But no, but I wouldn't, I know. I think it's
Speaker 2: all just you know, clickbait.
Speaker 1: And moving on. There's been a lot of comparison between
Speaker 1: yourself and Kim Kardashi in and particularly in a recent
Speaker 1: trip to LA because because Michael's even been called or
Speaker 1: compared to Kanye West, which surprised me. I didn't realize
Speaker 1: he was a rapper. But what do you make it?
Speaker 1: Make of it all?
Speaker 2: Oh, it's just a reach. It's there. It's a reach,
Speaker 2: like they are reaching if they've put Michael as Kanye.
Speaker 2: That is like a massive reach.
Speaker 1: How did you What did you get up to on
Speaker 1: your trip to la oh oh?
Speaker 2: We had the best time. We just sort of did
Speaker 2: like I guess, what do you do when you're on
Speaker 2: on like away. We just went for dinners, had like
Speaker 2: fbousie lunches, We went shopping, We watched a few nice sunsets.
Speaker 2: We went into The Joker actually in Hollywood. It was
Speaker 2: so scary. I met Michael Leaf halfway through. But it
Speaker 2: was fun and New York was great. We just caught
Speaker 2: the subway and like we you know, get around town
Speaker 2: and just things like that, a lot of walking, slighting, eating.
Speaker 1: Oh it sounds perfect. But I was going to say, obviously,
Speaker 1: you're a year into your relationship now, and I don't know,
Speaker 1: we don't want to put any pressure on, but what
Speaker 1: do you think the future holds for you and Michael
Speaker 1: Our future?
Speaker 2: I don't Well, you know, we're looking at a few
Speaker 2: places in Sydney, so we are planning on moving in together.
Speaker 2: Probably most likely that's going to be up in Sydney.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that's at this set. That's the
Speaker 2: only ally that I have that can tell you, guys,
Speaker 2: Oh that's exciting though, Yeah, it's really Actually we are
Speaker 2: working on a project together. Yeah, we're starting like a
Speaker 2: little like it's like a little love project that we're doing.
Speaker 2: It's like something it's got to do with selfies. But
Speaker 2: it's not a selfie book. We put it that way.
Speaker 2: I think, like, I don't know if I can say
Speaker 2: anything now because it's not setting stone and I don't
Speaker 2: want to give too much away. Michael will kill me.
Speaker 1: That little teaste is good. Yeah that sounds exciting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're just working on something fall together, So that's
Speaker 2: exciting for us. But yeah, that's about it.
Speaker 1: We're talking about selfie related things. What are your tips
Speaker 1: to actually taking the perfect photo and couple?
Speaker 2: Everybody always asks me this, but I promise you girls
Speaker 2: there it's not a trick. It's just lighting. If you
Speaker 2: have good lighting, like you could make a potato look nice,
Speaker 2: like if you have the right lighting. Honestly, that's all
Speaker 2: you need. Like if the lighting's not good, I don't
Speaker 2: even try. I don't even try it. One even weighs
Speaker 2: my battery.
Speaker 1: That's a really good advice. Before you go, We just
Speaker 1: had one last question we had to ask. We saw
Speaker 1: the news, I think I can't even remember. I think
Speaker 1: it was a few months ago.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: You had a run in Koshi from Sunrise, which just
Speaker 1: fed me up. Your response about not even knowing who
Speaker 1: he was. That was just so hilarious because I think
Speaker 1: that shows.
Speaker 2: The true Yeah, we actually.
Speaker 1: Want I've seen you did a YouTube video, but can
Speaker 1: you explain for our listen, is what actually happened with Koshi.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I just woke up the next day and heard
Speaker 2: that I had elbowed him to get to the photographer.
Speaker 2: I can assure you that I did not. I don't
Speaker 2: even think that we were on the red carpet at
Speaker 2: the same time. And like I actually put it out
Speaker 2: there to the press saying if anyone has photos of
Speaker 2: us even standing next to each other, please come forward
Speaker 2: and just tell me. But there wasn't even photos of
Speaker 2: us on the same red carpet together, like we It
Speaker 2: was a completely viabricated story, and I think didn't I
Speaker 2: think the year before Channel seven actually boycotted coming to
Speaker 2: the logis and I think they just wanted clickbait and
Speaker 2: they just wanted press.
Speaker 1: And yeah, that sounds like something they do, yeah.
Speaker 2: But it was. It was really cruel. It was really
Speaker 2: cool and Sam Armitage like of all people because she
Speaker 2: has tried to, you know, raise awareness for online bullying
Speaker 2: and trolling because I think she was made fun of
Speaker 2: about her weight for a long time and then like
Speaker 2: for her to go and to go and like be
Speaker 2: a bully, like you know what, they sort of dug
Speaker 2: their own grave with that, Like I don't I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know if I feel like the way they
Speaker 2: acted and the way like they just laughed it off,
Speaker 2: I just feel like they dug their own grave and
Speaker 2: they showed their true colors and I just feel like
Speaker 2: they're so petty and growth. Even though Kosh she said
Speaker 2: he refuses to apologize to your reality TV star because
Speaker 2: like obviously he feels like he's above that. I felt like, dude,
Speaker 2: look at the way you're acting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's reality Yeah, it's reality TV that wins all
Speaker 1: the ratings. To finish on a nicer note, what would
Speaker 1: be your advice for the new batch of contestants that
Speaker 1: are going to be on Math next year?
Speaker 2: Ah, I feel like the only thing I would say
Speaker 2: is don't be afraid to say no, and don't be
Speaker 2: afraid just if you don't feel right about something, If
Speaker 2: your moral compass is telling you otherwise, Like do you
Speaker 2: not feel like you have to do it? You don't
Speaker 2: have to do anything. Can literally just walk off or
Speaker 2: say no or just refuse, like flat out refuse. I
Speaker 2: feel be true to yourself and don't think that, you know,
Speaker 2: because of the producers and like fifty camera men around
Speaker 2: and things like that, that you actually have to perform
Speaker 2: and do what, you know, sort of play along or
Speaker 2: play the role that you that you've sort of been
Speaker 2: you know, told or asked or put into. I feel like,
Speaker 2: just say no, say no, Like I wish I could
Speaker 2: go back in time and like be you know, be
Speaker 2: more myself and like just be like no, I'm not
Speaker 2: doing that or that's not me. I will never say that,
Speaker 2: but you don't know, you know, hindsight is a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: And yeah, is there a certain thing that you did
Speaker 1: on maths that you're allowed to say that you were
Speaker 1: kind of prompted to do?
Speaker 2: Look, no, we can't really say. And I feel, like,
Speaker 2: to be honest, most of it, like most of it, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, but yeah, Well.
Speaker 1: It was so lovely to talk to you and it
Speaker 1: was so great.
Speaker 2: And I think thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I think it's so good to see your
Speaker 1: funny side and as you say, like your cheekiness, and
Speaker 1: it was really refreshing to hear more about you. Well,
Speaker 1: you were my favorite, regardless of all the stuff you
Speaker 1: were told to do anyway, so it's been great having
Speaker 1: you on the show. Yeah, you're a legend. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Thanks Joel,