WEBVTT - UNDER THE INFLUENCE: Martha Kalifatidis

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. You're joined by journalists Amy

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<v Speaker 1>and Sophie Torber for our very special Under the Influence episode.

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<v Speaker 1>And we are so excited to be joined but probably

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<v Speaker 1>the most talked about Married at First Sight contestant from

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<v Speaker 1>this year, Martha. Martha, thank you so much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>No worries, all good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, We're so excited to speak with you because you

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<v Speaker 1>are you are our favorite or married at first Sight.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to say, oh my god when people tell

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<v Speaker 2>me that, I really find it hard to believe that.

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<v Speaker 2>So actually I was actually so shocking. But okay, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>take it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, because you brought the entertainment every week.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of the reasons why people chune into a

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<v Speaker 1>show like that, is I mean, I, for one, I

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<v Speaker 1>loved when you threw the wine. I just was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, she went there.

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<v Speaker 2>You loved when I threw the wine. Okay, I like you.

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<v Speaker 2>We can be friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh look, we've all been in those situations, haven't we.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never done anything like that ever before, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>have never ever. I'm usually not really I'm not really

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<v Speaker 2>that like aggressive. I've never been violence or anything like

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<v Speaker 2>that ever. And I feel like I was in a

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<v Speaker 2>position though that like I've never like my blood boiled

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<v Speaker 2>to new levels, like new levels.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I think also, people know when they're watching reality

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<v Speaker 1>TV they were only seeing one part of someone's personality anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm sure there's lots of you that we perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see. Was it frustrating that perhaps the other sides

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<v Speaker 1>of you weren't portrayed as much as this other side.

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<v Speaker 2>Was so annoying, so annoying because like you, nobody really

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<v Speaker 2>gets to see like I am fiercely loyal, like to

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<v Speaker 2>my friends, to my partner, Like I just feel like

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<v Speaker 2>no one gets to see any of that, And that

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<v Speaker 2>was like the really annoying part. Like, yeah, I can

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<v Speaker 2>be cheeky and funny and I can say silly things,

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<v Speaker 2>but like I'm also like a really loyal person, and

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like everyone really overlooked how like loyal and

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<v Speaker 2>how much effort I put into actually, you know, getting

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<v Speaker 2>to know Michael, and like Michael wasn't necessarily my type,

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<v Speaker 2>but yet I really like put in the effort to

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<v Speaker 2>peel back the layers and get to know him, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it was so overlooked. Everyone overlooked that.

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<v Speaker 1>And it is, and I think it shows how fiercely

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<v Speaker 1>loyal you are and what type of person you are

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<v Speaker 1>that you're still with Michael. It shows how successful that

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<v Speaker 1>relationship is. And we have to say congratulations. I hear

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<v Speaker 1>it was your one year anniversary last month.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's crazy, though, that is crazy, Like, no one

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<v Speaker 2>is more shocked than us.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we loved how you celebrated your one year anniversary.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard so much online about the picture you posted.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you explain it to people who haven't seen it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's just a photo of us too. Like we

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<v Speaker 2>had just come up from the pool. We're a few

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<v Speaker 2>margaritas deep, and I were just sitting on the balcony.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a really nice sunset. I was just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have clothes on because I was about to

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<v Speaker 2>have a shower actually, and I just thought, my god,

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<v Speaker 2>how do we look out here in this light? Quickly

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<v Speaker 2>get the selfie light out of the photo.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was I didn't think. To be honest, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even think it was racy or anything. But I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I don't know, I honestly don't know why

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<v Speaker 2>people made such a big deal out of it. I

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<v Speaker 2>swear to you girls, I do not understand it. Like

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<v Speaker 2>my grandmother is like, she's like, please please, I want

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<v Speaker 2>these framed for my house. I'm like, oh really, She's like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so sexy. I love it. I'm like, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's got the approval of my grandparents. Like, how come

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<v Speaker 2>everyone else finds it so shocking?

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<v Speaker 1>What a cool grandma though, I think that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>She's so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose that's the best kind of Instagram, Isn't it

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<v Speaker 1>to get people talking? I mean, to be honest, it

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<v Speaker 1>really wasn't. It didn't really show that much other than

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<v Speaker 1>the side of your body, so it is quite I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I think people just want to have a go.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's Australians like particularly, I think I

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<v Speaker 2>was in I was in America like after that happened,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just feel like, you know, people there are

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<v Speaker 2>so much more liberated and open minded, and even the

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<v Speaker 2>things that they talk about so publicly, they're like, if

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<v Speaker 2>we were to talk like that here, people would have

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<v Speaker 2>so many opinions about it. But I think personally, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just my opinion. I think like Australians were so sensitive

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<v Speaker 2>to everything, especially anything to do with sex or or

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<v Speaker 2>anything like that. I feel like, Oh, we're so, we're so,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not uninhibited, that's what we're not.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they also have Sorry, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the case of tall poppy syndrome. And I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>if anyone is seen to be doing well or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there might be people that are jealous that you're in

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<v Speaker 1>this successful relationship. I feel like that's when people lash

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<v Speaker 1>out a lot, particularly Australians.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one hundred percent, the tall poppy syndrome thing, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I totally agree with that. And I feel like even

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<v Speaker 2>before I, you know, was on the show and had

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship, I felt like in my career, like in

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<v Speaker 2>my job as a makeup artist, I felt like I

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<v Speaker 2>really struggled with tall poppy syndrome a lot, especially mostly

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<v Speaker 2>from other women. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh definitely. Well, can you tell us a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about what life was actually like before married at First Sight,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, as we can see, it's changed significantly.

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<v Speaker 2>Life before MATHS was, Oh my god, I missed my

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<v Speaker 2>little life before Maks was such a I was so

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<v Speaker 2>chill and like I used to work. I worked a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like a workaholic. I was I was really

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<v Speaker 2>really passionate about like makeup and beauty and things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always been creepy about that sort of stuff. But

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, like I guess I could say I was

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<v Speaker 2>a workaholic. I had quite a actually I had quite

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<v Speaker 2>a balanced life. I like to work out a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I worked a few different jobs, and I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just I was living in Bondai, so it was nice.

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<v Speaker 2>I like to spend a lot of time outdoors. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you want to know?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I think that's great. It's really interesting because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like they don't show that much about your previous

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<v Speaker 1>life and career, so it is really interesting that you

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<v Speaker 1>were a makeup artist. But what was it you think

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<v Speaker 1>that made you want to sign up for the show

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<v Speaker 1>in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I didn't actually sign up for the show. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't put myself forward. I was approached by the by

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<v Speaker 2>the production company.

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<v Speaker 1>So were you out and about or was this just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like an a random email or INSTAGRAMO.

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<v Speaker 2>I was actually at work and these two ladies just

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<v Speaker 2>approached me and we were talking, and like I was

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<v Speaker 2>just being myself. I'm like really bubbly and especially at work,

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<v Speaker 2>like when I have it when I'm having like an

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<v Speaker 2>interaction and like sometimes you know, you meet people randomly,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can still have quite meaningful interactions. And I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like we were having like a meaningful interaction with

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<v Speaker 2>these ladies. And they they randomly asked me about like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know any nice restaurants for dinner around here?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, to be honest, girls, I just moved here,

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't really know that many places. And they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>did you move up here with your husband? And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm single. Like I'm like so single, like

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<v Speaker 2>it's almost going to be ten years I've been single.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they go, oh, my god, do you want

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<v Speaker 2>to be on this show? Blah blah blah. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, no, no, no, no, I'm not interested at all.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of the one of the guys that I

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<v Speaker 2>worked with, it's another makeup artist, he gave them my

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<v Speaker 2>number secretly, and it all happened from there. It just yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they contacted me and just thought I'd be a great fit.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, they just convinced me it'd be really fun.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean, looking back at it now, it has

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<v Speaker 2>been a lot of fun, and it has been a

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<v Speaker 2>massive learning experience. But yeah, that's how it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty funny because we're all we're triplets and we

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<v Speaker 1>actually got approached as well. I think it was the

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<v Speaker 1>series when they had the twins and we were just

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<v Speaker 1>sitting at a restaurant and this producer came up to

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<v Speaker 1>us and was like, oh, are you guys interested? And

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all had boyfriends at the time, so

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<v Speaker 1>but they must have been really keen on you to

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<v Speaker 1>keep persisting because we didn't get we didn't get the

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<v Speaker 1>follow up. Then that's a misperception when people watch maths

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<v Speaker 1>is they think that everybody's applied, and then there's a

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<v Speaker 1>connotation that you're only applying to get insta fame or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's that was like really annoying, Like people these

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<v Speaker 2>assumptions and then they're like this, you're stuck with the label,

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<v Speaker 2>like you're stuck with that because someone has assumed that

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<v Speaker 2>it's so annoying. But no, it's like it wasn't at all. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it would be a it would just be

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<v Speaker 2>a fun experience and it was something I could have

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<v Speaker 2>fun with. I did not expect to actually meet somebody

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<v Speaker 2>and have you know, a year down the track and

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<v Speaker 2>still be with that person.

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<v Speaker 1>And had you watched Maths before you went on?

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<v Speaker 2>I had watched the season before, but that is it.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't like seen other ones, and I hadn't seen

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<v Speaker 2>any other ones. I honestly thought that the season before

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<v Speaker 2>was like the first it's a brand new show, like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, have you seen this show? I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know it was. It was like the sixth or seventh season.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it has changed a lot because I think at

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<v Speaker 1>the start, soph and I both watched the first series

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<v Speaker 1>and it was very different. I think the experts sort

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<v Speaker 1>of really went in there wanting to match people. It

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<v Speaker 1>was more of a kind of fly on the wall

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<v Speaker 1>kind of look at it. But it really has changed

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<v Speaker 1>so much drama. And one of the things that I

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<v Speaker 1>loved especially about this series of Maths was, of course

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<v Speaker 1>the dinner parties. Are you able to give us Are

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<v Speaker 1>you able to fill us in a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>what the reality of those dinner parties are, because I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard they go for hours and hours and hours, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's not a.

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<v Speaker 2>Real dinner party at all. It's a dinner party that

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<v Speaker 2>starts at around eleven am. Then it's just like a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of waiting around, a lot of intervals. Yeah, just

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of Most of the dinner party were all

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<v Speaker 2>separated and just having one on one chats to like

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<v Speaker 2>a producer and the camera.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh so, yeah, what about the do they turn the

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<v Speaker 1>heat up? Because I heard that was a rumor because

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed people were quite sweating, quite profusely during the

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<v Speaker 1>dinner parties. Is it really hot in there?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, the room does not have heating oreic on. It's

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<v Speaker 2>literally just like a like a like a shed. So

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<v Speaker 2>like if it's hot, if it's hot, it is like

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<v Speaker 2>stinging hot. And if it's raining, usually filming cut because

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<v Speaker 2>you can't hear any And if it's cold, it's freezing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sort of like that. And so it is warm

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<v Speaker 2>in Sydney during the months that we film. But no,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they like try and like make you

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like make it hot or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not it's not that bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to if they turn the heat up

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<v Speaker 1>to try and make you drink more, if that was

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<v Speaker 1>one of their sort.

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<v Speaker 2>Of Oh, but they cut you off if they see

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<v Speaker 2>you as like if they think that they if that

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<v Speaker 2>you're really drunk, they cut you off. But I just

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I just feel like they pick how to

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<v Speaker 2>cut people, they just don't pick the right people to

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<v Speaker 2>cut off. I feel like poor Michael would have like

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<v Speaker 2>one drink and they'd be like, oh, Michael, you cut off.

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<v Speaker 2>I would be like blind drunk with my eyes rolling

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<v Speaker 2>back into my head, and they would keep like serving

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<v Speaker 2>my wine.

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<v Speaker 1>Does anyone trust you with red wine?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Has that been like a long running joke? No one

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<v Speaker 1>would give it to you.

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<v Speaker 2>No, anyone who knows me, who knows me, trust me

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<v Speaker 2>with it. But the next day on the set, it

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<v Speaker 2>was so funny because all the camera men in the

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<v Speaker 2>audio guys were like, I had asked for some almond

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<v Speaker 2>milk to make a protein shake, and everyone was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know. Maybe like let's not

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<v Speaker 2>give very anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>To be fair, didn't didn't Irel throw a fruit bowl

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<v Speaker 1>at you as well? Previous wasn't that?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, she had come into my apartment. She did

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<v Speaker 2>throw Oh she threw everything inside at me. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved how you stood there with your face mask

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<v Speaker 1>on the whole time though. That was probably my favorite episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it takes a lot for me to take

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<v Speaker 2>off a face mask.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, talking about Sorel. Were you surprised to hear the

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<v Speaker 1>news that, well, it's a bit of old news now

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<v Speaker 1>that she's having a baby with Eden from Love Island.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I actually just heard that they just broke up,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I was so shook about it,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I actually got like I was. I felt so

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<v Speaker 2>bad for her, Like I was actually saying to Michael, like,

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<v Speaker 2>and he looked at me, like a few hours later

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<v Speaker 2>and I was still reading the same article that he

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<v Speaker 2>had said that he showed me. He's like, why are

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<v Speaker 2>you still reading that? I'm like, I really can't get

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<v Speaker 2>over it. I think it's actually quite devastating, Like it's devastating,

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<v Speaker 2>but no, look, I mean it's been a really this

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<v Speaker 2>year for us. I can imagine for Cyrel as well,

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<v Speaker 2>has been crazy, and I feel like only now is

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<v Speaker 2>everything starting to settle. But I feel like she's in

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<v Speaker 2>a new relationship as well with Eat and all she

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<v Speaker 2>was and I just feel like I feel like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's taken a while for us to like

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<v Speaker 2>just even get our bearings back. And I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't shocked by it. I don't know these things happen.

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<v Speaker 2>It's you know, when you're having unprotected sex, you could

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<v Speaker 2>get pregnant, like the roof of the Drew. No, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think I was that shocked. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know really, to be honest, I didn't really think

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<v Speaker 2>about it that much, but I was really upset to

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<v Speaker 2>hear that they broke up. I really I feel for her.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it seems like from what we've saw she did

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<v Speaker 1>have she's got a fiery personality, so hopefully it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a fight that's but.

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<v Speaker 2>I also feel like she comes from such a strong

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<v Speaker 2>family unit that she would want her baby to have

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<v Speaker 2>that as well, and I feel like it would be devastating.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like probably, I don't know. I don't want

0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:08.320
<v Speaker 2>to blame it, but I just feel like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>like he.

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<v Speaker 1>Does a great track record, does he?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? He doesn't. We're not from what I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>know that much about either, but I feel like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And talking of other castmates, and there's rumors obviously

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment, that Jessica Power is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>appearing on Love Island. What do you make of all

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<v Speaker 1>of that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I can tell you for a fact that the

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<v Speaker 2>contract that we've signed with Channel nine is like ironclad,

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<v Speaker 2>and I doubt that Jessica Power is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to get out of it. So we actually can't

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<v Speaker 2>work with any other networks or shows or wearing a contract.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it's a rumor.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you what is the status of your friendship with

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<v Speaker 1>Jess because you were close on the show, but was

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<v Speaker 1>there a bit of a riff between you guys after filming.

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like the friendship with Jess was really

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<v Speaker 2>for it was really sort of I guess, encouraged by

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<v Speaker 2>producers and really for the show. Jess is not somebody

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<v Speaker 2>I would have a relationship with in real life or

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<v Speaker 2>or even like associate with somebody. Not like saying wrong

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<v Speaker 2>with her, but she's just not my people. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking about producers, do you guys have a really good

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with them or is it? Does it start off

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<v Speaker 1>good and then when you see the show.

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<v Speaker 2>My were some producers that were well, really pushy and

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<v Speaker 2>they really didn't care about your well being. But my producer,

0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:33.040
<v Speaker 2>sweetest man, he was really caring and like he could

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<v Speaker 2>tell when we were becoming you know, when something was

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<v Speaker 2>pushing us to our limits, and he would push back,

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<v Speaker 2>whereas usually another producer would see you getting flustered and

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<v Speaker 2>would actually like you know, push for more and more

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<v Speaker 2>to bring you to breaking point.

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<v Speaker 1>That is good that he was actually looking out for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Just moving on to life after maths. What was it

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<v Speaker 1>like becoming an influencer? Because we see all the glitz

0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:57.440
<v Speaker 1>and glamour, but what is it really like?

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<v Speaker 2>There's so much pressure and like today, like this weekend

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<v Speaker 2>for example, I have literally been a demon to everyone

0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:09.960
<v Speaker 2>around me because there's so much pressure. I have deadlines

0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:13.880
<v Speaker 2>and I have like making content is so so much

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<v Speaker 2>goes into it. Also, it's hard because you have to

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<v Speaker 2>constantly be on, Like you have to constantly be on

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<v Speaker 2>and like witty and funny and make jokes and like

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<v Speaker 2>even like just when you're like filming something, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like sometimes you wake up and you're just like nah,

0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.440
<v Speaker 2>I can't be bothered living today, But you have to

0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:30.840
<v Speaker 2>film something for a brand and they need the content

0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.760
<v Speaker 2>you just it comes across on camera, like it comes

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<v Speaker 2>across in your stories or in your videos that like

0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:39.920
<v Speaker 2>when you're not vibing, and I really like, for me,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so important to be like authentic and to be

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<v Speaker 2>genuine and I feel like when I'm faking it, I

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<v Speaker 2>just I don't know, I just I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I suppose it's hard for you too, because you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be authentic, but then you probably don't really

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<v Speaker 1>feel like putting your bad days out there because as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as you put something up, the daily mail jumps

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<v Speaker 1>in it or you cop something probably from a troll,

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<v Speaker 1>and that quite difficult sharing you know, real things that

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<v Speaker 1>you're going through as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean some things I don't I don't put out there,

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<v Speaker 2>like I like to try and keep my relationship just

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<v Speaker 2>like the like, you know, we put a lot out there,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's a lot of it that we don't put

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<v Speaker 2>out as well. And like definitely one hundred percent there's

0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:20.840
<v Speaker 2>things that I don't like to share. But I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like the more and more it goes on and the

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<v Speaker 2>more I'm getting used to it all, I feel like

0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:28.880
<v Speaker 2>there are trolls, but then like there's also really supportive

0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:32.680
<v Speaker 2>people out there, and it's so refreshing and nice to

0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:35.400
<v Speaker 2>like hear from them, and everyone like will send you

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<v Speaker 2>a little message and your DM and it's just and

0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:39.040
<v Speaker 2>it's just nice. It really it makes your day a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit better and it's just it's just reassuring to

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<v Speaker 2>know that there's there's nice people out there, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not as easy as everyone thinks, and like it's exhausting,

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't really get to see my friends and family.

0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:54.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm always traveling. But then also I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>complain about it. If anyone is complaining about being an influencer,

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<v Speaker 2>then they don't deserve about that to do it because

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<v Speaker 2>it is also a lot of fun and there's also

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of perks.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you mentioned that there's obviously a lot of support,

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<v Speaker 1>but then there's also trolls, and I think there was

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<v Speaker 1>a post, oh, I think it was a few months

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<v Speaker 1>back that you shared of yourself in Greece and you

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<v Speaker 1>were holding a cigarette, and there were some people that

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<v Speaker 1>slammed you, saying you're glamorizing smoking, but other people jumped

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<v Speaker 1>to your defense. Were you surprised by the comments, especially

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<v Speaker 1>the comments about you being a role model. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>actually consider yourself a role model?

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like the last thing I was doing was

0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:34.760
<v Speaker 2>glamorizing smoking. I think I mentioned in the posts as well,

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<v Speaker 2>this was the only photo that me and my stick

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<v Speaker 2>got together, and the whole wedding, and I just posted

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<v Speaker 2>it because it was like, really a cute picture of her.

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<v Speaker 2>But I feel like the last thing I was doing

0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:48.399
<v Speaker 2>with glamorizing smoking. I'm never smoking in my videos or

0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:52.200
<v Speaker 2>glamorizing it ever. But also I just feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>human man, Like I'm allowed to have a smoke at

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<v Speaker 2>a wedding, Like I'm not apologizing for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you'll be a good sister there if

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<v Speaker 1>you you know, often it's a will post a photo

0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:03.040
<v Speaker 1>that they look good in, not the other cigamore.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, correct.

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<v Speaker 1>So it say it's a case of being a good

0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:10.800
<v Speaker 1>system for having a cigarette. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny because that that article actually made it to

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<v Speaker 2>news dot com and my dad reads news dot com,

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<v Speaker 2>And the next morning we were at breakfast at the

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<v Speaker 2>hotel and he's like, oh, they're you know, you're glamorizing

0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:24.719
<v Speaker 2>smoking this article saying. I'm like, but I'm not, And

0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:27.399
<v Speaker 2>he's like, I just think even that. Dad's like, I

0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:30.320
<v Speaker 2>think you need to be careful what you put out there,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, young people, young girls are gonna look

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<v Speaker 2>at it and then like you might influence them. I'm like, man,

0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.600
<v Speaker 2>young girls have mothers at smoke like young girls have

0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:44.240
<v Speaker 2>aunties at smoke. You know, I'm not the influence for that.

0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:47.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't think like I think I'm a I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like, am I a role model for

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<v Speaker 2>for for like? I don't know. I actually don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>don't you guys? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>At least it made you think about it though, because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's good to hear that you know, have

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<v Speaker 1>that a by assume your dad, because I suppose now

0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:04.200
<v Speaker 1>that it's out there, you probably probably do think more

0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.200
<v Speaker 1>about the posts that you put up. I'm going into

0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.639
<v Speaker 1>something though, that you have been very honest about. You

0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:11.760
<v Speaker 1>have been quite open about using apps for editing or

0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:14.600
<v Speaker 1>photoshopping photos. Do you think it'd be good if more

0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:18.639
<v Speaker 1>influencers were more transparent about it too? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I just feel like it's one of those

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<v Speaker 2>things that they're either going to be open about it

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<v Speaker 2>or they're not. I just feel like you can see,

0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:28.520
<v Speaker 2>like when someone's edited a photo and they are just

0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:30.720
<v Speaker 2>digging their grave thing I did and I didn't. I

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<v Speaker 2>did this, I can't you're talking to like the panel

0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:37.439
<v Speaker 2>of professionals here like week with you can't like And

0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:39.040
<v Speaker 2>the more and more they go on about it. It's

0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:41.160
<v Speaker 2>just like, give it up, already, give it up, give

0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:43.199
<v Speaker 2>it up, just say say that you did it, like

0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:45.520
<v Speaker 2>you're human. Will let it them. But I feel like

0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:49.360
<v Speaker 2>I've been really open about everything, even like surgery, fillers everything.

0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:52.679
<v Speaker 2>I just it's I've always been like that. I've always

0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:55.360
<v Speaker 2>been someone that's super open and even like if it's

0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:57.480
<v Speaker 2>like if I've got a really good product or something,

0:19:57.520 --> 0:20:00.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell everyone about it. I'm not the person has

0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:02.520
<v Speaker 2>found like an amazing face cream and like keeps it

0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:04.200
<v Speaker 2>as a secret or do you know what I mean.

0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:07.760
<v Speaker 2>That's not me at all. I'm like the most open, transparent.

0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:11.520
<v Speaker 2>I say everything. Sometimes it can be a bad thing.

0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:14.840
<v Speaker 1>But well, the other day I've read this article and

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<v Speaker 1>it was about a Love Island contestant in the UK,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was basically saying that before the show she

0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:23.399
<v Speaker 1>had plastic surgery because she often got criticized about the

0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:25.800
<v Speaker 1>way she looked. But then it really made me think

0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:29.040
<v Speaker 1>because she said that now she's copying criticism for changing

0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:32.160
<v Speaker 1>her appearance despite people being so awful. So it's kind

0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:35.119
<v Speaker 1>of almost this lose lose situation where you know, you

0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:37.679
<v Speaker 1>get canned for having something wrong. With you, you change it,

0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:40.679
<v Speaker 1>and then you're still being criticized. Do you find do

0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:42.040
<v Speaker 1>you find that it's true?

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like this is what I know for

0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:47.240
<v Speaker 2>a fact. You will never make everyone happy, and there's

0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:49.600
<v Speaker 2>always going to be somebody who has something to say

0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:52.359
<v Speaker 2>about what you've done. You will never ever make everyone happy.

0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:55.200
<v Speaker 2>Like that is. Just accept it and then you're at peace.

0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:56.800
<v Speaker 1>That's such bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Like even if you do even if you do something right,

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<v Speaker 2>like even if to go and say donate one hundred

0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:05.359
<v Speaker 2>K to charity, someone would come around and say, but

0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:07.639
<v Speaker 2>why did you choose that charity and not this one?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? Like, it doesn't matter even

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<v Speaker 2>if you're doing something from the bottom of your heart

0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:14.959
<v Speaker 2>and you know, with all good intentions, it's always going

0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:16.960
<v Speaker 2>to be some idiot that has something to say.

0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:20.199
<v Speaker 1>Talking about criticism and always colling criticism. You shared a

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<v Speaker 1>post that was raising awareness about bullying and the hero

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<v Speaker 1>t shirts, and I thought that was an amazing post

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<v Speaker 1>because you spoke about the bullying you faced as a tach.

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<v Speaker 2>You've never really spoken about it before because I just

0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:34.000
<v Speaker 2>feel like, oh, everyone's gonna have something to say about it.

0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:37.480
<v Speaker 2>But I had a really hard upbringing my dad's job.

0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:40.000
<v Speaker 2>We used to move around all the time. Like I

0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:42.800
<v Speaker 2>went to like fourteen different schools growing up, Like we

0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:46.040
<v Speaker 2>were constantly moving. I mean when I started school, I

0:21:46.040 --> 0:21:50.480
<v Speaker 2>couldn't speak any English. I I couldn't. I had no

0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:52.760
<v Speaker 2>friends for a long time, and like it was hard

0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:54.760
<v Speaker 2>to make friends. And I feel like that that was

0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:57.960
<v Speaker 2>my foundation. From young like I struggled and I was

0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:01.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, always sort of like left out. I had

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<v Speaker 2>to see a speech therapist. I couldn't speak properly because

0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:06.040
<v Speaker 2>I only learned how to speak Greek from young. So

0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:09.800
<v Speaker 2>I was always made fun of. I was literally the

0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:12.480
<v Speaker 2>only Greek girl. Like I grew up in aubrew Wadonka.

0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:14.679
<v Speaker 2>I was the only Greek girl maybe in all of

0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:17.960
<v Speaker 2>aubrew Adonka. Like nobody had an eyebrow that touched in

0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:22.000
<v Speaker 2>the middle, nobody had like the black hair, like you know,

0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:25.399
<v Speaker 2>like I was. I was always made fun of and

0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:28.800
<v Speaker 2>teased and tormented. Even going into high school. Misha Baden

0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:31.760
<v Speaker 2>was the girl, and like she's tall and skinny with

0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:35.600
<v Speaker 2>like this really like smooth hair, and I was nothing

0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:37.800
<v Speaker 2>like that, you know, I was even made fun of

0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:40.959
<v Speaker 2>even through high school. I was always really, you know,

0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:43.080
<v Speaker 2>trying to put my ass into a pair of hipster

0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:46.840
<v Speaker 2>jeans was not was not cute at all. Like my

0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:49.760
<v Speaker 2>mom would always be like, funny, those jeans aren't for you.

0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:52.679
<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, but that's what everyone's wearing, you know.

0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Did you have those face off pants?

0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Those? Nah? I didn't do the face off I did

0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:02.760
<v Speaker 2>the my ticos. Okay, yeah, they were like the Figger stretch.

0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:04.200
<v Speaker 2>You're a bit more bougie ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, so you reveal

0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:09.520
<v Speaker 1>this story about your life, I suppose a lot of

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:13.760
<v Speaker 1>people can ren too. And then and from Billy.

0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:16.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know. I thought that's what I thought as well, like,

0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:19.480
<v Speaker 2>surely there's other girls that can relate to this, Like,

0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:23.679
<v Speaker 2>surely there is. But everyone you know what though, girls

0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:26.679
<v Speaker 2>in all honesty, like I could have just archived the post.

0:23:27.160 --> 0:23:29.720
<v Speaker 2>But the more trolls that, you know, right on it,

0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:32.399
<v Speaker 2>the more the more interaction it gets, and then the

0:23:32.400 --> 0:23:35.480
<v Speaker 2>more awareness it actually spreads. So in saying that, yeah,

0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:36.800
<v Speaker 2>there were a lot of trolls and a lot of

0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:39.760
<v Speaker 2>nasty comments, but if only people knew that those nasty

0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:43.880
<v Speaker 2>comments they send and they like on my wall, actually

0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:48.800
<v Speaker 2>my pay you know, presence on social media then probably

0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:51.440
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have as many. So I like to keep that and.

0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:52.960
<v Speaker 1>As long as there was one person, you know what

0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there probably would have been one young girl

0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:57.000
<v Speaker 1>out there that could relate to your story who's perhaps

0:23:57.080 --> 0:23:58.040
<v Speaker 1>going through boos.

0:23:57.920 --> 0:24:00.600
<v Speaker 2>Ways, even if it's just one person that I can help,

0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:02.280
<v Speaker 2>all that benefits from it unhappy.

0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:04.840
<v Speaker 1>And just to put that into context, because people may

0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:07.879
<v Speaker 1>have actually forgotten who Billy is because from married it

0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:08.520
<v Speaker 1>First site.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even want to give him any time, like

0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:14.760
<v Speaker 2>to even mention him, to be honest, but let's just say.

0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:16.040
<v Speaker 1>It to the listeners. It was somebody from Married It

0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:18.719
<v Speaker 1>First and he made some comments about Martha that were

0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:21.720
<v Speaker 1>really uncalled for. It's just ridiculous when you're out there

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:22.800
<v Speaker 1>trying to do some good.

0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:25.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean yeah, Like like I said, like, I didn't

0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:28.159
<v Speaker 2>even want to give him any attention because like for me,

0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:32.080
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't exist in my world. I don't think about

0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:34.919
<v Speaker 2>him ever, so I didn't even notice.

0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:37.720
<v Speaker 1>Is there anyone that you do catch up with still

0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:38.440
<v Speaker 1>from maths?

0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:40.240
<v Speaker 2>No? No one?

0:24:40.640 --> 0:24:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, really no one?

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:44.600
<v Speaker 2>No one? Really no, I don't really like apart from

0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:46.640
<v Speaker 2>a little DM to one of the girls here and there.

0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:50.440
<v Speaker 1>But no, no, have you seen the rumors that Elizabeth

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:52.600
<v Speaker 1>is going to be appearing in the latest series?

0:24:54.600 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 2>No, no, I haven't. But guys, I'll be honest, most

0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:01.000
<v Speaker 2>of it's like rumors, like I doubt any of it's true.

0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do wonder if it's all clickbait, but apparently,

0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:08.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean these are sources. I think nine had their upfront,

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:10.760
<v Speaker 1>so they showed a few images of the new Brides.

0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:13.080
<v Speaker 1>But it's a it's a pretty strong rumor going out

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:15.920
<v Speaker 1>there that she gets introduced as an intruder. Then again,

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:18.320
<v Speaker 1>it was a strong rumor about Jessica Power as well,

0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:20.680
<v Speaker 1>and we've seen that, so Martha's probably right.

0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:23.520
<v Speaker 2>But no, but I wouldn't, I know. I think it's

0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:24.800
<v Speaker 2>all just you know, clickbait.

0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:27.719
<v Speaker 1>And moving on. There's been a lot of comparison between

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:31.200
<v Speaker 1>yourself and Kim Kardashi in and particularly in a recent

0:25:31.240 --> 0:25:35.280
<v Speaker 1>trip to LA because because Michael's even been called or

0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:38.399
<v Speaker 1>compared to Kanye West, which surprised me. I didn't realize

0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:41.240
<v Speaker 1>he was a rapper. But what do you make it?

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:42.240
<v Speaker 1>Make of it all?

0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's just a reach. It's there. It's a reach,

0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:47.080
<v Speaker 2>like they are reaching if they've put Michael as Kanye.

0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:48.920
<v Speaker 2>That is like a massive reach.

0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:52.760
<v Speaker 1>How did you What did you get up to on

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:55.000
<v Speaker 1>your trip to la oh oh?

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:57.680
<v Speaker 2>We had the best time. We just sort of did

0:25:57.720 --> 0:25:59.359
<v Speaker 2>like I guess, what do you do when you're on

0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:02.399
<v Speaker 2>on like away. We just went for dinners, had like

0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:08.360
<v Speaker 2>fbousie lunches, We went shopping, We watched a few nice sunsets.

0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:11.240
<v Speaker 2>We went into The Joker actually in Hollywood. It was

0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 2>so scary. I met Michael Leaf halfway through. But it

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:17.440
<v Speaker 2>was fun and New York was great. We just caught

0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 2>the subway and like we you know, get around town

0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:25.200
<v Speaker 2>and just things like that, a lot of walking, slighting, eating.

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh it sounds perfect. But I was going to say, obviously,

0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:31.280
<v Speaker 1>you're a year into your relationship now, and I don't know,

0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:32.879
<v Speaker 1>we don't want to put any pressure on, but what

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:36.200
<v Speaker 1>do you think the future holds for you and Michael

0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Our future?

0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't Well, you know, we're looking at a few

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:46.840
<v Speaker 2>places in Sydney, so we are planning on moving in together.

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Probably most likely that's going to be up in Sydney.

0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:53.720
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I think that's at this set. That's the

0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:56.359
<v Speaker 2>only ally that I have that can tell you, guys,

0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:59.479
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's exciting though, Yeah, it's really Actually we are

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:02.679
<v Speaker 2>working on a project together. Yeah, we're starting like a

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 2>little like it's like a little love project that we're doing.

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:07.720
<v Speaker 2>It's like something it's got to do with selfies. But

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 2>it's not a selfie book. We put it that way.

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:12.359
<v Speaker 2>I think, like, I don't know if I can say

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:15.160
<v Speaker 2>anything now because it's not setting stone and I don't

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 2>want to give too much away. Michael will kill me.

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 1>That little teaste is good. Yeah that sounds exciting.

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're just working on something fall together, So that's

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:24.359
<v Speaker 2>exciting for us. But yeah, that's about it.

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:28.720
<v Speaker 1>We're talking about selfie related things. What are your tips

0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 1>to actually taking the perfect photo and couple?

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Everybody always asks me this, but I promise you girls

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:37.679
<v Speaker 2>there it's not a trick. It's just lighting. If you

0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:42.600
<v Speaker 2>have good lighting, like you could make a potato look nice,

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:46.360
<v Speaker 2>like if you have the right lighting. Honestly, that's all

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 2>you need. Like if the lighting's not good, I don't

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:50.440
<v Speaker 2>even try. I don't even try it. One even weighs

0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:51.000
<v Speaker 2>my battery.

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 1>That's a really good advice. Before you go, We just

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 1>had one last question we had to ask. We saw

0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:58.199
<v Speaker 1>the news, I think I can't even remember. I think

0:27:58.200 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 1>it was a few months ago.

0:27:59.000 --> 0:27:59.160
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:02.639
<v Speaker 1>You had a run in Koshi from Sunrise, which just

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 1>fed me up. Your response about not even knowing who

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 1>he was. That was just so hilarious because I think

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:09.959
<v Speaker 1>that shows.

0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 2>The true Yeah, we actually.

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Want I've seen you did a YouTube video, but can

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 1>you explain for our listen, is what actually happened with Koshi.

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I just woke up the next day and heard

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:24.240
<v Speaker 2>that I had elbowed him to get to the photographer.

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 2>I can assure you that I did not. I don't

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:30.439
<v Speaker 2>even think that we were on the red carpet at

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 2>the same time. And like I actually put it out

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 2>there to the press saying if anyone has photos of

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 2>us even standing next to each other, please come forward

0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 2>and just tell me. But there wasn't even photos of

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:45.760
<v Speaker 2>us on the same red carpet together, like we It

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 2>was a completely viabricated story, and I think didn't I

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 2>think the year before Channel seven actually boycotted coming to

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 2>the logis and I think they just wanted clickbait and

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 2>they just wanted press.

0:28:56.440 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, that sounds like something they do, yeah.

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:03.480
<v Speaker 2>But it was. It was really cruel. It was really

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 2>cool and Sam Armitage like of all people because she

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 2>has tried to, you know, raise awareness for online bullying

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 2>and trolling because I think she was made fun of

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:15.760
<v Speaker 2>about her weight for a long time and then like

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 2>for her to go and to go and like be

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 2>a bully, like you know what, they sort of dug

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:26.480
<v Speaker 2>their own grave with that, Like I don't I mean,

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I feel like the way they

0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:31.760
<v Speaker 2>acted and the way like they just laughed it off,

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:34.160
<v Speaker 2>I just feel like they dug their own grave and

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 2>they showed their true colors and I just feel like

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:40.520
<v Speaker 2>they're so petty and growth. Even though Kosh she said

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:43.840
<v Speaker 2>he refuses to apologize to your reality TV star because

0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 2>like obviously he feels like he's above that. I felt like, dude,

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:48.479
<v Speaker 2>look at the way you're acting.

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's reality Yeah, it's reality TV that wins all

0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 1>the ratings. To finish on a nicer note, what would

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:57.480
<v Speaker 1>be your advice for the new batch of contestants that

0:29:57.520 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 1>are going to be on Math next year?

0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Ah, I feel like the only thing I would say

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 2>is don't be afraid to say no, and don't be

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 2>afraid just if you don't feel right about something, If

0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 2>your moral compass is telling you otherwise, Like do you

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 2>not feel like you have to do it? You don't

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 2>have to do anything. Can literally just walk off or

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 2>say no or just refuse, like flat out refuse. I

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 2>feel be true to yourself and don't think that, you know,

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 2>because of the producers and like fifty camera men around

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 2>and things like that, that you actually have to perform

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 2>and do what, you know, sort of play along or

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 2>play the role that you that you've sort of been

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, told or asked or put into. I feel like,

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 2>just say no, say no, Like I wish I could

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 2>go back in time and like be you know, be

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:45.960
<v Speaker 2>more myself and like just be like no, I'm not

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 2>doing that or that's not me. I will never say that,

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 2>but you don't know, you know, hindsight is a beautiful thing.

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, is there a certain thing that you did

0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 1>on maths that you're allowed to say that you were

0:30:58.480 --> 0:30:59.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of prompted to do?

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Look, no, we can't really say. And I feel, like,

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 2>to be honest, most of it, like most of it, yeah,

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, but yeah, Well.

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 1>It was so lovely to talk to you and it

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 1>was so great.

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:16.000
<v Speaker 2>And I think thank you for having me.

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I think it's so good to see your

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>funny side and as you say, like your cheekiness, and

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 1>it was really refreshing to hear more about you. Well,

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 1>you were my favorite, regardless of all the stuff you

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 1>were told to do anyway, so it's been great having

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 1>you on the show. Yeah, you're a legend. Thank you.

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:30.720
<v Speaker 2>Thanks Joel,