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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. You're joined by journalists Amy

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Speaker 1: and Sophie Torber for our very special Under the Influence episode.

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Speaker 1: And we are so excited to be joined but probably

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Speaker 1: the most talked about Married at First Sight contestant from

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Speaker 1: this year, Martha. Martha, thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 2: No worries, all good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, We're so excited to speak with you because you

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Speaker 1: are you are our favorite or married at first Sight.

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Speaker 2: I have to say, oh my god when people tell

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Speaker 2: me that, I really find it hard to believe that.

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Speaker 2: So actually I was actually so shocking. But okay, I'll

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Speaker 2: take it.

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Speaker 1: Well, because you brought the entertainment every week.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons why people chune into a

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Speaker 1: show like that, is I mean, I, for one, I

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Speaker 1: loved when you threw the wine. I just was like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, she went there.

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Speaker 2: You loved when I threw the wine. Okay, I like you.

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Speaker 2: We can be friends.

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Speaker 1: Oh look, we've all been in those situations, haven't we.

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Speaker 2: I've never done anything like that ever before, Like I

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Speaker 2: have never ever. I'm usually not really I'm not really

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Speaker 2: that like aggressive. I've never been violence or anything like

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Speaker 2: that ever. And I feel like I was in a

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Speaker 2: position though that like I've never like my blood boiled

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Speaker 2: to new levels, like new levels.

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Speaker 1: Well I think also, people know when they're watching reality

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Speaker 1: TV they were only seeing one part of someone's personality anyway,

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Speaker 1: So I'm sure there's lots of you that we perhaps

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Speaker 1: didn't see. Was it frustrating that perhaps the other sides

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Speaker 1: of you weren't portrayed as much as this other side.

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Speaker 2: Was so annoying, so annoying because like you, nobody really

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Speaker 2: gets to see like I am fiercely loyal, like to

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Speaker 2: my friends, to my partner, Like I just feel like

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Speaker 2: no one gets to see any of that, And that

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Speaker 2: was like the really annoying part. Like, yeah, I can

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Speaker 2: be cheeky and funny and I can say silly things,

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Speaker 2: but like I'm also like a really loyal person, and

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Speaker 2: I feel like everyone really overlooked how like loyal and

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Speaker 2: how much effort I put into actually, you know, getting

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Speaker 2: to know Michael, and like Michael wasn't necessarily my type,

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Speaker 2: but yet I really like put in the effort to

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Speaker 2: peel back the layers and get to know him, you know,

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Speaker 2: I feel like it was so overlooked. Everyone overlooked that.

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Speaker 1: And it is, and I think it shows how fiercely

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Speaker 1: loyal you are and what type of person you are

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Speaker 1: that you're still with Michael. It shows how successful that

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Speaker 1: relationship is. And we have to say congratulations. I hear

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Speaker 1: it was your one year anniversary last month.

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Speaker 2: No, it's crazy, though, that is crazy, Like, no one

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Speaker 2: is more shocked than us.

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Speaker 1: Well, we loved how you celebrated your one year anniversary.

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Speaker 1: I've heard so much online about the picture you posted.

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Speaker 1: Can you explain it to people who haven't seen it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's just a photo of us too. Like we

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Speaker 2: had just come up from the pool. We're a few

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Speaker 2: margaritas deep, and I were just sitting on the balcony.

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Speaker 2: There was a really nice sunset. I was just you know,

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Speaker 2: I didn't have clothes on because I was about to

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Speaker 2: have a shower actually, and I just thought, my god,

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Speaker 2: how do we look out here in this light? Quickly

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Speaker 2: get the selfie light out of the photo.

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Speaker 1: It's a great pick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was I didn't think. To be honest, I

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Speaker 2: didn't even think it was racy or anything. But I

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Speaker 2: feel like I don't know, I honestly don't know why

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Speaker 2: people made such a big deal out of it. I

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Speaker 2: swear to you girls, I do not understand it. Like

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Speaker 2: my grandmother is like, she's like, please please, I want

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Speaker 2: these framed for my house. I'm like, oh really, She's like,

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Speaker 2: it's so sexy. I love it. I'm like, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's got the approval of my grandparents. Like, how come

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Speaker 2: everyone else finds it so shocking?

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Speaker 1: What a cool grandma though, I think that's amazing.

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Speaker 2: She's so cool.

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Speaker 1: I suppose that's the best kind of Instagram, Isn't it

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Speaker 1: don't know. I think people just want to have a go.

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's Australians like particularly, I think I

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Speaker 2: and I just feel like, you know, people there are

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Speaker 2: just my opinion. I think like Australians were so sensitive

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Speaker 2: we're not uninhibited, that's what we're not.

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Speaker 1: I think they also have Sorry, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: the case of tall poppy syndrome. And I feel like

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Speaker 1: if anyone is seen to be doing well or you know,

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Speaker 1: this successful relationship. I feel like that's when people lash

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent, the tall poppy syndrome thing, Like,

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Speaker 2: I totally agree with that. And I feel like even

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Speaker 2: before I, you know, was on the show and had

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Speaker 2: a relationship, I felt like in my career, like in

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Speaker 2: my job as a makeup artist, I felt like I

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Speaker 2: from other women. You know.

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Speaker 1: Oh definitely. Well, can you tell us a little bit

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Speaker 1: about what life was actually like before married at First Sight,

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Speaker 1: because I mean, as we can see, it's changed significantly.

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Speaker 2: Life before MATHS was, Oh my god, I missed my

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Speaker 2: little life before Maks was such a I was so

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Speaker 2: chill and like I used to work. I worked a lot.

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Speaker 2: I was like a workaholic. I was I was really

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Speaker 2: really passionate about like makeup and beauty and things like that.

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Speaker 2: I've always been creepy about that sort of stuff. But

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Speaker 2: I guess, like I guess I could say I was

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Speaker 2: a workaholic. I had quite a actually I had quite

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Speaker 2: a balanced life. I like to work out a lot.

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Speaker 2: I worked a few different jobs, and I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: just I was living in Bondai, so it was nice.

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Speaker 2: I like to spend a lot of time outdoors. Like,

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Speaker 2: what do you want to know?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I think that's great. It's really interesting because I

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Speaker 1: feel like they don't show that much about your previous

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Speaker 1: life and career, so it is really interesting that you

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Speaker 1: were a makeup artist. But what was it you think

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Speaker 1: in the first place.

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Speaker 2: Well, I didn't actually sign up for the show. I

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Speaker 2: didn't put myself forward. I was approached by the by

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Speaker 1: So were you out and about or was this just

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Speaker 1: sort of like an a random email or INSTAGRAMO.

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Speaker 2: I was actually at work and these two ladies just

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Speaker 2: these ladies. And they they randomly asked me about like, oh,

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, to be honest, girls, I just moved here,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm single. Like I'm like so single, like

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Speaker 2: it's almost going to be ten years I've been single.

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Speaker 2: And then they go, oh, my god, do you want

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Speaker 2: number secretly, and it all happened from there. It just yeah,

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Speaker 2: And yeah, they just convinced me it'd be really fun.

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Speaker 2: And I mean, looking back at it now, it has

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Speaker 2: been a lot of fun, and it has been a

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Speaker 2: massive learning experience. But yeah, that's how it happened.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty funny because we're all we're triplets and we

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Speaker 1: series when they had the twins and we were just

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Speaker 1: us and was like, oh, are you guys interested? And

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Speaker 1: I think we all had boyfriends at the time, so

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Speaker 1: keep persisting because we didn't get we didn't get the

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Speaker 1: follow up. Then that's a misperception when people watch maths

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Speaker 1: is they think that everybody's applied, and then there's a

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Speaker 1: connotation that you're only applying to get insta fame or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's that was like really annoying, Like people these

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Speaker 2: it's so annoying. But no, it's like it wasn't at all. Honestly,

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Speaker 2: I thought it would be a it would just be

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Speaker 2: fun with. I did not expect to actually meet somebody

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Speaker 1: And had you watched Maths before you went on?

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Speaker 2: I had watched the season before, but that is it.

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Speaker 2: I haven't like seen other ones, and I hadn't seen

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Speaker 2: oh my god, have you seen this show? I didn't

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Speaker 1: Well, it has changed a lot because I think at

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Speaker 1: and it was very different. I think the experts sort

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Speaker 1: of really went in there wanting to match people. It

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Speaker 1: so much drama. And one of the things that I

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Speaker 1: loved especially about this series of Maths was, of course

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Speaker 1: the dinner parties. Are you able to give us Are

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Speaker 1: you able to fill us in a little bit about

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Speaker 1: what the reality of those dinner parties are, because I've

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Speaker 1: heard they go for hours and hours and hours, and

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Speaker 2: Real dinner party at all. It's a dinner party that

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Speaker 2: starts at around eleven am. Then it's just like a

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Speaker 2: lot of waiting around, a lot of intervals. Yeah, just

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Speaker 2: a lot of Most of the dinner party were all

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Speaker 1: Uh so, yeah, what about the do they turn the

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Speaker 1: heat up? Because I heard that was a rumor because

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Speaker 1: I noticed people were quite sweating, quite profusely during the

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Speaker 1: dinner parties. Is it really hot in there?

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Speaker 2: Oh, the room does not have heating oreic on. It's

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Speaker 2: literally just like a like a like a shed. So

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Speaker 2: like if it's hot, if it's hot, it is like

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Speaker 2: stinging hot. And if it's raining, usually filming cut because

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Speaker 2: you can't hear any And if it's cold, it's freezing.

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Speaker 2: It's sort of like that. And so it is warm

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Speaker 2: in Sydney during the months that we film. But no,

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Speaker 2: My were some producers that were well, really pushy and

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Speaker 1: Just moving on to life after maths. What was it

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Speaker 2: There's so much pressure and like today, like this weekend

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Speaker 1: And I suppose it's hard for you too, because you

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Speaker 2: I feel like the last thing I was doing was

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Speaker 2: But I feel like the last thing I was doing

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Speaker 2: because you know, young people, young girls are gonna look

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Speaker 2: aunties at smoke. You know, I'm not the influence for that.

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Speaker 2: I don't think like I think I'm a I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just feel like, am I a role model for

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Speaker 2: for for like? I don't know. I actually don't know,

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Speaker 1: At least it made you think about it though, because

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Speaker 1: something though, that you have been very honest about. You

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just feel like it's one of those

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Speaker 2: the more and more they go on about it. It's

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Speaker 2: just like, give it up, already, give it up, give

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Speaker 2: it up, just say say that you did it, like

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Speaker 2: you're human. Will let it them. But I feel like

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Speaker 2: like if I've got a really good product or something,

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00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,000
Speaker 2: I'll tell everyone about it. I'm not the person has

435
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,520
Speaker 2: found like an amazing face cream and like keeps it

436
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,200
Speaker 2: as a secret or do you know what I mean.

437
00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,760
Speaker 2: That's not me at all. I'm like the most open, transparent.

438
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 2: I say everything. Sometimes it can be a bad thing.

439
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 1: But well, the other day I've read this article and

440
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,440
Speaker 1: it was about a Love Island contestant in the UK,

441
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 1: and she was basically saying that before the show she

442
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,399
Speaker 1: had plastic surgery because she often got criticized about the

443
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 1: way she looked. But then it really made me think

444
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 1: because she said that now she's copying criticism for changing

445
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,160
Speaker 1: her appearance despite people being so awful. So it's kind

446
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,119
Speaker 1: of almost this lose lose situation where you know, you

447
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,679
Speaker 1: get canned for having something wrong. With you, you change it,

448
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,679
Speaker 1: and then you're still being criticized. Do you find do

449
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,040
Speaker 1: you find that it's true?

450
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,159
Speaker 2: I just feel like this is what I know for

451
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 2: a fact. You will never make everyone happy, and there's

452
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 2: always going to be somebody who has something to say

453
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,359
Speaker 2: about what you've done. You will never ever make everyone happy.

454
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 2: Like that is. Just accept it and then you're at peace.

455
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 1: That's such bad.

456
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,360
Speaker 2: Like even if you do even if you do something right,

457
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 2: like even if to go and say donate one hundred

458
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 2: K to charity, someone would come around and say, but

459
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,639
Speaker 2: why did you choose that charity and not this one?

460
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, it doesn't matter even

461
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 2: if you're doing something from the bottom of your heart

462
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,959
Speaker 2: and you know, with all good intentions, it's always going

463
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 2: to be some idiot that has something to say.

464
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,199
Speaker 1: Talking about criticism and always colling criticism. You shared a

465
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 1: post that was raising awareness about bullying and the hero

466
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 1: t shirts, and I thought that was an amazing post

467
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 1: because you spoke about the bullying you faced as a tach.

468
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 2: You've never really spoken about it before because I just

469
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 2: feel like, oh, everyone's gonna have something to say about it.

470
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 2: But I had a really hard upbringing my dad's job.

471
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 2: We used to move around all the time. Like I

472
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 2: went to like fourteen different schools growing up, Like we

473
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 2: were constantly moving. I mean when I started school, I

474
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 2: couldn't speak any English. I I couldn't. I had no

475
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 2: friends for a long time, and like it was hard

476
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 2: to make friends. And I feel like that that was

477
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 2: my foundation. From young like I struggled and I was

478
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 2: you know, always sort of like left out. I had

479
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,719
Speaker 2: to see a speech therapist. I couldn't speak properly because

480
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 2: I only learned how to speak Greek from young. So

481
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 2: I was always made fun of. I was literally the

482
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 2: only Greek girl. Like I grew up in aubrew Wadonka.

483
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 2: I was the only Greek girl maybe in all of

484
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 2: aubrew Adonka. Like nobody had an eyebrow that touched in

485
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 2: the middle, nobody had like the black hair, like you know,

486
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 2: like I was. I was always made fun of and

487
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 2: teased and tormented. Even going into high school. Misha Baden

488
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 2: was the girl, and like she's tall and skinny with

489
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 2: like this really like smooth hair, and I was nothing

490
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 2: like that, you know, I was even made fun of

491
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,959
Speaker 2: even through high school. I was always really, you know,

492
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 2: trying to put my ass into a pair of hipster

493
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 2: jeans was not was not cute at all. Like my

494
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 2: mom would always be like, funny, those jeans aren't for you.

495
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 2: I'd be like, but that's what everyone's wearing, you know.

496
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 1: Did you have those face off pants?

497
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 2: Those? Nah? I didn't do the face off I did

498
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 2: the my ticos. Okay, yeah, they were like the Figger stretch.

499
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 2: You're a bit more bougie ones.

500
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, so you reveal

501
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: this story about your life, I suppose a lot of

502
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: people can ren too. And then and from Billy.

503
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I thought that's what I thought as well, like,

504
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 2: surely there's other girls that can relate to this, Like,

505
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 2: surely there is. But everyone you know what though, girls

506
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 2: in all honesty, like I could have just archived the post.

507
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 2: But the more trolls that, you know, right on it,

508
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 2: the more the more interaction it gets, and then the

509
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 2: more awareness it actually spreads. So in saying that, yeah,

510
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 2: there were a lot of trolls and a lot of

511
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 2: nasty comments, but if only people knew that those nasty

512
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 2: comments they send and they like on my wall, actually

513
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: my pay you know, presence on social media then probably

514
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 2: wouldn't have as many. So I like to keep that and.

515
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 1: As long as there was one person, you know what

516
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: I mean, there probably would have been one young girl

517
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: out there that could relate to your story who's perhaps

518
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: going through boos.

519
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 2: Ways, even if it's just one person that I can help,

520
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 2: all that benefits from it unhappy.

521
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: And just to put that into context, because people may

522
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 1: have actually forgotten who Billy is because from married it

523
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: First site.

524
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 2: I don't even want to give him any time, like

525
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 2: to even mention him, to be honest, but let's just say.

526
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: It to the listeners. It was somebody from Married It

527
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,719
Speaker 1: First and he made some comments about Martha that were

528
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: really uncalled for. It's just ridiculous when you're out there

529
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: trying to do some good.

530
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, Like like I said, like, I didn't

531
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 2: even want to give him any attention because like for me,

532
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 2: he doesn't exist in my world. I don't think about

533
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 2: him ever, so I didn't even notice.

534
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: Is there anyone that you do catch up with still

535
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: from maths?

536
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: No? No one?

537
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: Oh wow, really no one?

538
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 2: No one? Really no, I don't really like apart from

539
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 2: a little DM to one of the girls here and there.

540
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: But no, no, have you seen the rumors that Elizabeth

541
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: is going to be appearing in the latest series?

542
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 2: No, no, I haven't. But guys, I'll be honest, most

543
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 2: of it's like rumors, like I doubt any of it's true.

544
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do wonder if it's all clickbait, but apparently,

545
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: I mean these are sources. I think nine had their upfront,

546
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: so they showed a few images of the new Brides.

547
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: But it's a it's a pretty strong rumor going out

548
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: there that she gets introduced as an intruder. Then again,

549
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: it was a strong rumor about Jessica Power as well,

550
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 1: and we've seen that, so Martha's probably right.

551
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: But no, but I wouldn't, I know. I think it's

552
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 2: all just you know, clickbait.

553
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,719
Speaker 1: And moving on. There's been a lot of comparison between

554
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: yourself and Kim Kardashi in and particularly in a recent

555
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: trip to LA because because Michael's even been called or

556
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 1: compared to Kanye West, which surprised me. I didn't realize

557
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: he was a rapper. But what do you make it?

558
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: Make of it all?

559
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 2: Oh, it's just a reach. It's there. It's a reach,

560
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: like they are reaching if they've put Michael as Kanye.

561
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 2: That is like a massive reach.

562
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: How did you What did you get up to on

563
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: your trip to la oh oh?

564
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 2: We had the best time. We just sort of did

565
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 2: like I guess, what do you do when you're on

566
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 2: on like away. We just went for dinners, had like

567
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 2: fbousie lunches, We went shopping, We watched a few nice sunsets.

568
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 2: We went into The Joker actually in Hollywood. It was

569
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 2: so scary. I met Michael Leaf halfway through. But it

570
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 2: was fun and New York was great. We just caught

571
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 2: the subway and like we you know, get around town

572
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 2: and just things like that, a lot of walking, slighting, eating.

573
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: Oh it sounds perfect. But I was going to say, obviously,

574
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: you're a year into your relationship now, and I don't know,

575
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: we don't want to put any pressure on, but what

576
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: do you think the future holds for you and Michael

577
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 1: Our future?

578
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 2: I don't Well, you know, we're looking at a few

579
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 2: places in Sydney, so we are planning on moving in together.

580
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 2: Probably most likely that's going to be up in Sydney.

581
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that's at this set. That's the

582
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 2: only ally that I have that can tell you, guys,

583
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,479
Speaker 2: Oh that's exciting though, Yeah, it's really Actually we are

584
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 2: working on a project together. Yeah, we're starting like a

585
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: little like it's like a little love project that we're doing.

586
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 2: It's like something it's got to do with selfies. But

587
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 2: it's not a selfie book. We put it that way.

588
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 2: I think, like, I don't know if I can say

589
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 2: anything now because it's not setting stone and I don't

590
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: want to give too much away. Michael will kill me.

591
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: That little teaste is good. Yeah that sounds exciting.

592
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're just working on something fall together, So that's

593
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 2: exciting for us. But yeah, that's about it.

594
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: We're talking about selfie related things. What are your tips

595
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: to actually taking the perfect photo and couple?

596
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 2: Everybody always asks me this, but I promise you girls

597
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 2: there it's not a trick. It's just lighting. If you

598
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: have good lighting, like you could make a potato look nice,

599
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 2: like if you have the right lighting. Honestly, that's all

600
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 2: you need. Like if the lighting's not good, I don't

601
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 2: even try. I don't even try it. One even weighs

602
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 2: my battery.

603
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: That's a really good advice. Before you go, We just

604
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: had one last question we had to ask. We saw

605
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 1: the news, I think I can't even remember. I think

606
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: it was a few months ago.

607
00:27:59,000 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 2: Now.

608
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: You had a run in Koshi from Sunrise, which just

609
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: fed me up. Your response about not even knowing who

610
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: he was. That was just so hilarious because I think

611
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:09,959
Speaker 1: that shows.

612
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 2: The true Yeah, we actually.

613
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,719
Speaker 1: Want I've seen you did a YouTube video, but can

614
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: you explain for our listen, is what actually happened with Koshi.

615
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: Honestly, I just woke up the next day and heard

616
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: that I had elbowed him to get to the photographer.

617
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: I can assure you that I did not. I don't

618
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 2: even think that we were on the red carpet at

619
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: the same time. And like I actually put it out

620
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: there to the press saying if anyone has photos of

621
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: us even standing next to each other, please come forward

622
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: and just tell me. But there wasn't even photos of

623
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 2: us on the same red carpet together, like we It

624
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: was a completely viabricated story, and I think didn't I

625
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 2: think the year before Channel seven actually boycotted coming to

626
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: the logis and I think they just wanted clickbait and

627
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 2: they just wanted press.

628
00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: And yeah, that sounds like something they do, yeah.

629
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: But it was. It was really cruel. It was really

630
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: cool and Sam Armitage like of all people because she

631
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: has tried to, you know, raise awareness for online bullying

632
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: and trolling because I think she was made fun of

633
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: about her weight for a long time and then like

634
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: for her to go and to go and like be

635
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: a bully, like you know what, they sort of dug

636
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: their own grave with that, Like I don't I mean,

637
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if I feel like the way they

638
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: acted and the way like they just laughed it off,

639
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: I just feel like they dug their own grave and

640
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: they showed their true colors and I just feel like

641
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: they're so petty and growth. Even though Kosh she said

642
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: he refuses to apologize to your reality TV star because

643
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: like obviously he feels like he's above that. I felt like, dude,

644
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,479
Speaker 2: look at the way you're acting.

645
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's reality Yeah, it's reality TV that wins all

646
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: the ratings. To finish on a nicer note, what would

647
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: be your advice for the new batch of contestants that

648
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: are going to be on Math next year?

649
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 2: Ah, I feel like the only thing I would say

650
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Speaker 2: is don't be afraid to say no, and don't be

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Speaker 2: afraid just if you don't feel right about something, If

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Speaker 2: your moral compass is telling you otherwise, Like do you

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Speaker 2: not feel like you have to do it? You don't

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Speaker 2: have to do anything. Can literally just walk off or

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Speaker 2: say no or just refuse, like flat out refuse. I

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Speaker 2: feel be true to yourself and don't think that, you know,

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Speaker 2: because of the producers and like fifty camera men around

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Speaker 2: and things like that, that you actually have to perform

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Speaker 2: and do what, you know, sort of play along or

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Speaker 2: play the role that you that you've sort of been

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Speaker 2: you know, told or asked or put into. I feel like,

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Speaker 2: just say no, say no, Like I wish I could

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Speaker 2: go back in time and like be you know, be

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Speaker 2: more myself and like just be like no, I'm not

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Speaker 2: doing that or that's not me. I will never say that,

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Speaker 2: but you don't know, you know, hindsight is a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, is there a certain thing that you did

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Speaker 1: on maths that you're allowed to say that you were

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Speaker 1: kind of prompted to do?

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Speaker 2: Look, no, we can't really say. And I feel, like,

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Speaker 2: to be honest, most of it, like most of it, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, but yeah, Well.

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Speaker 1: It was so lovely to talk to you and it

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Speaker 1: was so great.

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Speaker 2: And I think thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I think it's so good to see your

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Speaker 1: funny side and as you say, like your cheekiness, and

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Speaker 1: it was really refreshing to hear more about you. Well,

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Speaker 1: you were my favorite, regardless of all the stuff you

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Speaker 1: were told to do anyway, so it's been great having

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Speaker 1: you on the show. Yeah, you're a legend. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Joel,