WEBVTT - JORDIE WAS NO JOKE IN AUSTRALIAN SURVIVOR

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reloaded podcast in last week. I'm lit. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>guys to TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris and on

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast I go behind the scenes with the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>players in television.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like the reality show so that they cut

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<v Speaker 2>within and into their life. I don't like them at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've also got to go behind the scenes with writers.

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<v Speaker 1>The truth is when I started writing it, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>had nothing to do with the news and casting agents.

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<v Speaker 2>They know from a casting point of view what they need.

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<v Speaker 1>And editors because that's what we do as editors where storytellers,

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<v Speaker 1>not to forget some incredible executive producers who are making

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<v Speaker 1>some of the best TV in Australia. We thought he'd

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<v Speaker 1>be too just self aware.

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<v Speaker 2>Well in fact exactly the opposite was true and he

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<v Speaker 2>became the biggest character in the show.

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<v Speaker 1>So thanks for joining me each week and I hope

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast continues to give you real insight into the

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<v Speaker 1>magic of television Today. On the podcast, I have Jordi

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<v Speaker 1>Hanson from Australian survivors Blood Versus Water currently playing on

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<v Speaker 1>Network ten. The Victorian Landscaper by trade is used to

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<v Speaker 1>digging holes and getting himself out of them, and boy

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<v Speaker 1>did he dig a lot of holes. Despite the ease

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<v Speaker 1>of which he could make friends in the outside world,

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<v Speaker 1>Jordi played Australian Survivor like a PG villain, always ruffling

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<v Speaker 1>feathers and keeping people on their toes. He will forever

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<v Speaker 1>be known as the Joker to Mark's Dark Knight. Today

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about his courageous gameplay, how he would tweak

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<v Speaker 1>Australian Survivor, who he thinks will win, and who is

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<v Speaker 1>the least deserving to still be there. Anyway, I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to welcome Jordi Hansen to TV reload.

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<v Speaker 2>I was targeted by every single person out there constantly

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<v Speaker 2>previously on Australian Survivor. This is the most emotionally charged season.

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<v Speaker 1>We all recognize that Jordie's a serious challenge for it.

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<v Speaker 2>The Dark Knight beats the Joker once again. If Josh

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't vote with us, this could be the end for

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<v Speaker 2>the Joker. You're specifically told in the jury you're not

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to communicate in any way, shape or form.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighteenth first voted out of Blood Verse Water.

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<v Speaker 2>Jordi relationships to me are the most important thing in

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<v Speaker 2>the game. Hi Jordie, how are you, my friend? Very good?

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<v Speaker 1>You were most certainly the noisiest player of the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two series. Are you proud of your game play?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh mate, I'm so proud. I'm very proud, very proud.

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<v Speaker 2>I had so much fun, you know, And that was

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<v Speaker 2>the aim, just go and have fun and play hard,

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<v Speaker 2>and I did those things, and so now I feel

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<v Speaker 2>very happy with myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that smelling hug with Jonathan look hilarious. What was

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<v Speaker 1>in worse condition? Your body odor? Or those overalls?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh mate, those overalls have seen some things. They're still

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't even watched them. They're still in my cupboard.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sort of trying to work out what to do

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<v Speaker 2>with them at the moment. But yeah, Jonathan did not

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<v Speaker 2>want to barrow that hug, but I forced it upon

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<v Speaker 2>him publicly.

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<v Speaker 1>He looked genuinely terrified. Were you always scrambling? And did

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<v Speaker 1>it feel like you were only getting by by the

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<v Speaker 1>skin of your teeth every minute of that game?

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<v Speaker 2>And I could not believe it, honestly, from the minute

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<v Speaker 2>that Jesse went home. He went home day thirty. I

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<v Speaker 2>went home day forty four. So for literally for two weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Every single day I was getting told your next buddy,

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<v Speaker 2>you're ready to go pack your things, and I go, Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>not yet, not yet, not yet, you know, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just keep waking up on the beach, going how am

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<v Speaker 2>I still here? I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it a smart move to align yourself with a

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<v Speaker 1>villain against Mark's Dark Knight?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Look, that sort of sort of the character of

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<v Speaker 2>the joke who was born very naturally. It's sort of

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<v Speaker 2>it came out. I'm pretty sure Josh was the one

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<v Speaker 2>that said it. He said, I don't understand how you's

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<v Speaker 2>still laughing when we're all coming for you, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I was. I was targeted by every single person

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<v Speaker 2>out there constantly, day after day, but I was having

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<v Speaker 2>more fun than any of them, you know. And then

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<v Speaker 2>Mark jumped on the train, jumped on that DC train

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever Marvel. I'm not sure what I thought. He'd

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<v Speaker 2>call himself the Dark Knight. Very funny, very funny. The

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<v Speaker 2>Dark Knight beats the Joker once again.

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<v Speaker 1>How frustrating was Jesse losing that idol to Sam? Can

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<v Speaker 1>we officially call Sammy the idol swindler if.

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<v Speaker 2>You want, If that's what you want to call it

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<v Speaker 2>you again? Yeah, absolutely too sneaky at cheeky little devil.

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<v Speaker 1>Had that not had happened, the game would have been

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<v Speaker 1>quite different for you. Was that really frustrating? And I

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<v Speaker 1>mean was it hard to have that conversation with Jesse, like,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, man, what were you thinking?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? It was. It was frustrating because I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we're sitting there in trouble and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I sort of said to him, I said, mate, where's

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<v Speaker 2>the idol? And he says, it's in Turmy's bag. And

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<v Speaker 2>before any of the votes got read out, I went, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's done. They've got us. And he didn't suspect it.

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<v Speaker 2>He trusted her so much, he trusted her with his life.

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<v Speaker 2>But I knew that minute. I was like, oh no, literally,

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<v Speaker 2>worst case scenario right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't believe that they managed to keep lying

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<v Speaker 1>about it, Like I just like, this is amazing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that child never grows up and watches their

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<v Speaker 1>parents on this show, because that kid's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a nightmare as a teenager. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very funny, really funny. It's you know, they're

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<v Speaker 2>great actors, and they played a very different game to me,

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<v Speaker 2>they were ruthless. You know, that's what it takes. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what it takes. And they, you know, they did

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<v Speaker 2>very very well, very well.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone I've spoken to so far, everyone you played up against,

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<v Speaker 1>has said that you were making way too many deals

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<v Speaker 1>and that no one could trust you. Was that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of your intent? Were you trying to just see what's stuck?

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<v Speaker 1>Or were you trying to confuse people? And overall was

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<v Speaker 1>it a good gameplay?

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<v Speaker 2>I was making a lot of deals because no one

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<v Speaker 2>was doing anything. No one's no one's saying yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll work with you. No one would give me a

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<v Speaker 2>solid answer, Like no one would say yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>let's do this, like no one. So I had to

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<v Speaker 2>run around like what else was I supposed to do it?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like it what am I supposed to just

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<v Speaker 2>sit there and go all right, I've made I've had

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<v Speaker 2>one conversation. That's me done. You know, Like that's not

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<v Speaker 2>how it worked.

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<v Speaker 1>Like as Carn's lying around as the magic carpet from

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<v Speaker 1>Aladdin and the girls are singing Disney songs and you're like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>come and do deal with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, let's play, let's have fun, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't come to sit around the fire and sing kumbayah.

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<v Speaker 1>Sam looked so annoyed as Mark played that idol last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Does sammy at this point, and obviously you have that

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<v Speaker 1>chance to be there at the tribal council and talk

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<v Speaker 1>to her. Does she think that they've lost the game?

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<v Speaker 2>That was interesting. I think she wasn't sure. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>probably remember having that conversation, but you know, it was

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<v Speaker 2>funny seeing Mark play the idol when he didn't need

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<v Speaker 2>to play it. That was that was sort of nice.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, it was sort of like Sam was

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<v Speaker 2>always confident. She always she always was going to Backmark.

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<v Speaker 2>You and I think and you know, those two really

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<v Speaker 2>stuck together. You know, I was strong in their relationship

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<v Speaker 2>and strong in their trusts for each other. So I

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<v Speaker 2>have no doubt that she is continuing to sort of

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<v Speaker 2>push him and go, yep, you've got this mate.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the jury is sitting there. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that they give too much away? Because I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of the first time it's been so noticeable

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<v Speaker 1>for me as a viewer, And how much are you

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<v Speaker 1>trying to read these signals from the jury.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting because you're specifically told in the jury you're

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<v Speaker 2>not allowed to communicate in any way, shape or form. However,

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<v Speaker 2>facial expressions are uncontrollable, and so if you can sort

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<v Speaker 2>of just look over at the right moment, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was sort of using those opportunities more as a

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<v Speaker 2>time to try and continue to charm them a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like you guys, has it going? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>miss me? Sort of thing, like, you know, that was

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<v Speaker 2>more what I was using those moments for, because realistically,

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<v Speaker 2>there's only so much you can get from a facial expression.

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought that those twins were the only ones

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<v Speaker 1>with the best poker face, Like they were sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>giving nothing away. But as an audience, I was watching it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, definitely read Sam's face, Samy's face. You

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<v Speaker 1>could definitely read Card's face as much as I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't think you would be able to. You definitely

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<v Speaker 1>can get some signs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right. Sammy couldn't control it. He could not

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<v Speaker 2>control it one. But it's pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Well overall, people online last night were commenting on the

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<v Speaker 1>current version of Australian Survivor versus Other World Survivors. I

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<v Speaker 1>think because you are such such a passionate person of

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<v Speaker 1>the game. This would be a great question to ask you.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you change if you could tweak the current

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<v Speaker 1>Australian format?

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<v Speaker 2>Very good question as it stands. I really like it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they push you to your limit, like there

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<v Speaker 2>is no help. There's no help from anyone. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>people go, oh, are they giving you more food? Are

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<v Speaker 2>they doing this? Are they doing that? It's nothing. You're

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<v Speaker 2>out there on your own and they have no control

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<v Speaker 2>over what happens. It's literally like if you go, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>go and have fun. See how you go, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And I find that really good. The format in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of numbers, perfect amount of people. I reckon days. I

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<v Speaker 2>would almost say push it out, make it longer. That

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<v Speaker 2>would work for me anyway. I would like to see that.

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<v Speaker 2>I would, you know, if they ever made it harder,

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<v Speaker 2>that would make me more exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you'll come back and do ninety days.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'd be there for one hundred, three hundred, let's

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<v Speaker 2>do it. Lock me out there, lock me out there,

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<v Speaker 2>just someone please pay my rent.

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<v Speaker 1>Mate, you'd be dead. I reckon it about one hundred days.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that environment, Yeah, no, I think that you'd also

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<v Speaker 1>be very sick of doing what I learned on Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>and Jackio today, which is how to pooh in the bush.

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<v Speaker 2>You listen, you heard that.

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<v Speaker 1>I literally have just been watching everything today. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I've missed a single thing. And I didn't wash

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<v Speaker 1>my hair and this is to try and look a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit like you. So I'm a crazed fan. I've

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<v Speaker 1>bought the Jordi showbag.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes that's great, but never wash your hair again. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're a true fan, never wash it again.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, do you reckon that? You know? Sort of tying

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<v Speaker 1>off the back of that last question, was Blood Versus

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<v Speaker 1>Water are harder game to play? I mean, I was,

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<v Speaker 1>honestly and is watching you reunite with your brother Jesse

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<v Speaker 1>and he was in tears. I was in tears. You weren't.

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<v Speaker 1>You were like, what's going on? Mate? But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>did Blood Versus Water become a harder game to play

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<v Speaker 1>a Survivor because you were playing with your brother? Or

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<v Speaker 1>did it make it easier?

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<v Speaker 2>That was the vibe out there, You know, we could

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<v Speaker 2>it was a far more emotionally driven game than I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever seen. You know, I've seen a lot of Survivor,

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<v Speaker 2>and specifically Australian Survivor. This is the most emotionally charged season,

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon we've ever seen. While it's good to have

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<v Speaker 2>someone in there you know you can trust, it also

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<v Speaker 2>means you feel like you've got this air of responsibility

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<v Speaker 2>to look after that person. And so it goes both ways,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And I think you see once one person

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<v Speaker 2>has left their partner, it's off, you know, like away

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<v Speaker 2>they go. They've got no ties, they've got nothing, They're

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<v Speaker 2>only risking their own games.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we have a final five. You know, who does

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<v Speaker 1>deserve to be there the most at this point and

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<v Speaker 1>who do you think has done the least.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's a good question for me. It's Josh. Josh.

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<v Speaker 2>Josh was the man. I gave him a hargot on

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<v Speaker 2>the way out and I said, you've got this mate,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and I truly think he's got what it

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<v Speaker 2>takes to take it out. He's built beautiful relationships, which

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<v Speaker 2>I think is something that the others haven't done. Relationships,

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<v Speaker 2>to me, are the most important thing in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>If you can build really strong connections with people, you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to struggle not to win them over at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's the one to watch for me in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of people that have not done that as much. Mark

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<v Speaker 2>has also played a fairly strong game. The others have

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<v Speaker 2>played a different game, not the game that I would

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<v Speaker 2>if I was on the jury and I was to vote.

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<v Speaker 2>The others are perhaps not the way that I would vote.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to see more strategy come from them.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the one person who's done the last Come on.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't do this to me. Don't do this to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I look, don't beleave the fifth.

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<v Speaker 2>Look one thing, you know, and poor Chrissy, Poor Chrissy,

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<v Speaker 2>she's not she'd not watched Survivor before coming out, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she's she She sort of would sort of come to

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<v Speaker 2>us and go, right, who are we voting for, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and you'd give her a name and she vote, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's the game that she wanted to play.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how she wanted to play. And all credit to her.

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<v Speaker 2>If that's how you want to play, that's how you

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<v Speaker 2>want to play. But to me, I don't think you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get many votes from the jury for that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but people were really tweeting in support of her

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<v Speaker 1>last night, Like someone wrote, you know, Chrissy needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be in every season of Survivor from now on, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think very entertaining so much so, like I think

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<v Speaker 1>that she's like Doggle boxing the show live, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hilarious. It is quite funny. She's a beautiful commentator

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<v Speaker 2>and such a fun check to be around, like so

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<v Speaker 2>much fun. But unfortunately, being funny isn't going to win

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<v Speaker 2>your voats. You know, you got to play Survivor our

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<v Speaker 2>last out play. That's the rules.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, my last question to ask anyone that joins the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast is what's something from behind the scenes that he

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<v Speaker 1>as an audience didn't get a chance to see that

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<v Speaker 1>we would appreciate something that you know, you experienced through

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<v Speaker 1>the making of Survivor.

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<v Speaker 2>Josh at the spa at the Spa night. Not many

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<v Speaker 2>people would know, but Josh is a heavy noticed so

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<v Speaker 2>he did not bat an eyelid at the chance to

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<v Speaker 2>get his kid off and have a shower at the

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<v Speaker 2>spa day. That's something you didn't get to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, for some.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to kill me. That's a total lie, Like

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<v Speaker 2>that is a complete lie. But it's really funny and

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<v Speaker 2>I hope he gets to hear this. He's going to

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<v Speaker 2>kill me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tag him in it.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll love it.

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<v Speaker 1>My heart ready, I'll get a few hits on that

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<v Speaker 1>as well, if only we get to see that anyway, mate,

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<v Speaker 1>can I just say you were just so fantastic. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you and Chrissy to me have been such brilliant television

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<v Speaker 1>to watch like you are just fantastic characters. I absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>loved watching you on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, congratulations, I appreciate that, mate, Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I had so much fun. And yeah, I'm very grateful

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<v Speaker 2>for the opportunity out of Blast.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm looking out for the car. I was in

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<v Speaker 1>black Rock, which I think you're down that way, and

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't see the car you want, but I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>I'll keep looking out for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen it either, so if you see it,

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<v Speaker 2>let me know.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh have you not got it yet?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm still waiting, still waiting.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, well I shouldn't be looking at for car

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't really exist at this stage.

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<v Speaker 2>Not yet. I'll flick your message when it comes.

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<v Speaker 1>I won a car and big brother and my partner

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<v Speaker 1>wrote it off about three months later, and so my

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<v Speaker 1>mom said to me, easy come, easy go. And so

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<v Speaker 1>what did Denzel Washington, say to Will Smith last night

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<v Speaker 1>at the Academy Awards. When you're at your greatest, the

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<v Speaker 1>devil comes for you.

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<v Speaker 2>So here it comes. Oh how the mighty have fallen?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey yeah, one hundred percent. Anyway, we won't talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Will Smith. But thanks mate for joining me today.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. I appreciate it.