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Speaker 3: Hello. My name's doctor Justin Colson.

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Speaker 2: I'm the author of six books about raising happy families,

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Speaker 2: and I'm here with my wife and my podcast co host,

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Speaker 2: missus Happy Families, Kylie and Kylie. Today, I want to

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Speaker 2: But it was a really tough one to kind of

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Speaker 2: Received an email from somebody via podcasts at Happy Families

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Speaker 2: going to read the holly email. It was just too long,

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Speaker 2: but essentially this is what it said. We've moved recently

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Speaker 3: It's the Happy Families podcast.

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Speaker 2: The podcast for the time poor parent who just wants

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Speaker 2: time in the afternoons. Our weekends are caught up with

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Speaker 3: In order for next week's crazy.

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Speaker 2: But like you said, those couple of parents that did respond,

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Speaker 2: we actually made great friendships with them.

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Speaker 1: We did, and I'm still in contact with a few

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Speaker 1: of them, you know, in spite of the fact that

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Speaker 1: we're not in that same community anymore.

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Speaker 2: Well, we hope that these ideas help the anonymous person

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Speaker 3: We really need help.

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Speaker 2: We've been there, we understand, and hopefully those ideas don't

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Speaker 2: just build better relationships for grown ups, but also they

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Speaker 2: build better relationships for the kids as well. If you've

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Speaker 2: enjoyed the podcast, as always, we invite you to jump

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Speaker 3: So that people can find the podcast.

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Speaker 2: It's those ratings and reviews that make all the difference

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Speaker 2: in moving the Happy Families podcast up the podcast rankings.

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Speaker 2: A very big thank you to Justin Rulan and Craig Bruce,

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Speaker 2: our executive producer, for making the podcast sound great. If

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Speaker 2: you'd like more info on how we can help your

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Speaker 2: family be happier, all you need to do is go

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Speaker 2: to Happy Families dot com dot au or check out

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Speaker 2: our Facebook page Doctor Justin Colson's Happy Families