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Speaker 1: Already and this is this is the DAILYA, this is.

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Speaker 2: The Daily oas Oh, now it makes sense. Good morning

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Speaker 2: and welcome to the Daily Ours. It's Wednesday, the twenty

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Speaker 2: seventh of August. I'm Harry Sekulich.

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Speaker 3: I'm Lucy Tassel.

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Speaker 2: Charlotte Walker is Australia's youngest senator and the youngest woman

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Speaker 2: ever elected to the Federal Parliament. On election night, she

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Speaker 2: celebrated her win and her twenty first birthday. This week,

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Speaker 2: she gave her first official speech to Parliament, reflecting on

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Speaker 2: her labor activism, personal health struggles and her politically minded family,

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Speaker 2: which all paved her path to Canberra. I spoke to

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Speaker 2: Charlotte Walker about what drove her to get into politics,

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Speaker 2: what she wants to see change in Australia, and how

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Speaker 2: young people can get more involved. But before we get

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Speaker 2: into it, he's a quick word from our sponsor, Harry.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you were doing when you were

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Speaker 3: twenty one. I can tell you I was not getting

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Speaker 2: I wasn't running either, Lucy. So I think Charlotte is

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Speaker 2: probably blazing the trail for a lot of people.

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Speaker 3: Possibly the most impressive twenty one year old in the country.

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Speaker 3: Other than her astonishing run for parliament, what else can

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Speaker 3: you tell us about her?

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Speaker 2: Well, up until Monday night, we knew that Walker was

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Speaker 2: the youngest senator ever elected. That's when she gave what's

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Speaker 2: come from. From Walker's speech, we learned quite a bit

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Speaker 2: about her. She grew up in the regions of South Australia.

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Speaker 2: She spoke about the influence of her grandparents, who were

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Speaker 2: Labor Senator runs in the family totally. And she gave

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Speaker 2: a shout out to her uncle and I thought this

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Speaker 2: was really interesting because he's a union organizer, and she

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Speaker 2: joked that unlike many other people, she actually enjoys a

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Speaker 2: good for you know, quite amusing and quite unusual. Actually. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we also learned that she was diagnosed with a genetic

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Speaker 2: heart condition recently and She also opened up about finding

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Speaker 2: out she had depression after navigating her parents' divorce and

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Speaker 2: bullying in primary school, which actually led to her moving

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Speaker 2: schools when she was in year four. In the very

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Speaker 2: few years since she's left high school, and there's only

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Speaker 2: this year's election. And it was in a tricky spot

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Speaker 2: as well. It's fairly rare for a party to win

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Speaker 2: third place on the Senate ticket, but she pulled it off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah wow, Well, I mean part of that huge landslide

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Speaker 2: She's the youngest woman ever elected to the federal Parliament,

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Speaker 2: but the title for the youngest ever MP or senator

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Speaker 2: still remains in the hands of White Roy. How yes,

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Speaker 2: he was twenty years old when he won the Queensland

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Speaker 2: the Red Chamber. It's got all sorts of nicknames. So

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Speaker 2: she's made history as the youngest woman, the youngest senator,

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Speaker 2: chat Walker. Thank you so much for joining the Daily Odds.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: So I just want to start on election night. We

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So, look, it had been a big day, being

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Speaker 4: I'd spent the whole day out on a polling booth

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Speaker 4: We had some great results. So yeah, there's truly no

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's a better present than that.

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Speaker 2: Did they put on a cake for you or anything?

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Speaker 1: There was, so it was organized without me knowing.

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Speaker 4: Some of the people in the party had organized a

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Speaker 2: I want to rewind back to some of your earliest

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Speaker 1: I guess sort of growing up.

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Speaker 1: Had a particular view. It really came when I was

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Speaker 4: My family had Labor values, but you know, there was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we know that it can take a bit

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Speaker 2: there's a quota system. And we could do a whole

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Speaker 4: It was about three weeks after the election when the

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Speaker 1: It was about it was, yeah, nearly near the end of.

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Speaker 4: I think it took a couple of weeks, which the

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Speaker 4: you know, we have a voting system that works that way,

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Speaker 2: You've posted this video ranking online insults directed at you,

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Speaker 2: which is a fairly direct way to respond. We know

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Speaker 2: that young people are also turning away from getting politically

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Speaker 2: active and getting more involved. Do you think that online

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Speaker 2: commentary like you've received could be contributing to people young

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Speaker 1: Look, I think I think there's a few layers to that.

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Speaker 4: I think, and I know all of my colleagues would

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Speaker 4: being a politician, you get a lot of feedback, You

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Speaker 4: there's always going to be the negativity.

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Speaker 1: That's sort of part of the job. You know.

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Speaker 4: Some of the comments directed towards me have you know,

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Speaker 4: they have been misogynistic, and I don't condone those comments

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Speaker 1: You know, when you.

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Speaker 4: Get into politics, there is hate, but you can't you

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Speaker 4: can't let it get you down and you can't let

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Speaker 4: I was just trying to bring a bit of light to,

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Speaker 4: Though, that you know, the media will show you that

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Speaker 2: What do you think is the best way to get

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Speaker 4: I think it's interesting. I think young people at the

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Speaker 1: I know something that I try.

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Speaker 4: the type of content that's going to appeal to someone

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Speaker 4: so that you know through all the memes and that

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Speaker 1: Seeing a little bit of policy.

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Speaker 4: But I do think there's commentary around young people that

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Speaker 4: lot of young people are really, really, really passionate. Certainly,

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, do you want some of

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Speaker 1: But I just want to. I want to continue to

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Speaker 4: I'd love to see that meeting a you know, come

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've already made history. That's very much clear. But

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Speaker 4: I touched on this in my first speech a little

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Speaker 4: it's no secret that we've got a problem in Australia.

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Speaker 4: We clearly need to change the attitudes. We need to

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Speaker 4: You know, there's already been some big investments into you know,

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Speaker 2: Senator Charlotte Orcatt, thank you so much for joining the

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Speaker 2: Daily Hours and congratulations on your first speege.

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Wow, what a fascinating interview, Harry. Thanks so much for

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Speaker 3: joining us on the Daily Ods today and thank you

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