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Speaker 1: It's Friday again, It's Saturday Sunday. Remember that song was
Speaker 1: a thing.
Speaker 3: I think it still is for a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Bro that song.
Speaker 3: Can I tell you something wild?
Speaker 4: I turned to so We're sitting in the show studio
Speaker 4: and I turned to look to my left, and I'm
Speaker 4: so sure I saw a little goblin gremlin.
Speaker 3: I didn't.
Speaker 4: It's a tripod. But outside at the reception there is
Speaker 4: a little kind of like odd figure, I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's like a ceramic figure holding a dish with Halloween lollies.
Speaker 4: And it reminded me of this thing. I used to
Speaker 4: ask people that if you saw something so nonsensical, you know,
Speaker 4: like a bear flying or a three headed man, would
Speaker 4: you sooner believe that you were going crazier that it
Speaker 4: actually happened. And I always say that I would sooner
Speaker 4: believe that it's actually happening, not that I'm going crazy,
Speaker 4: but these days not so sure. The other day I
Speaker 4: was driving looked in my rearview mirror and I saw
Speaker 4: where I saw some kind of like metallicky ready slimy
Speaker 4: figure coming out that the bottom of a car.
Speaker 3: I was like, what that was my pussy?
Speaker 1: Anyway, guys politicizing the shudio midway through flex from my Gremlins,
Speaker 1: the leaves behind her fall into a disastrous little pattern.
Speaker 4: I think that was me that time. Anyway, I didn't
Speaker 4: see the thing. It was like a trick of the
Speaker 4: eye or whatever. But what if it wasn't? You know?
Speaker 4: So now what I'm trying to do is to express
Speaker 4: when I'm seeing odd things, just in case they happen
Speaker 4: more often.
Speaker 3: So we've got a pattern.
Speaker 1: You're probably looking out for them. No, yeah, anyway, it's Friday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I listen to the podcast Fleck and Frooms Flexi as
Speaker 1: per you come to the show with some very interesting
Speaker 1: conversation to be had. What have you got today?
Speaker 4: Always, I've been thinking a lot about musicians going on hiatus,
Speaker 4: only because as someone who is an avid music listener,
Speaker 4: and not everybody identifies as such. I don't know a
Speaker 4: few people are like, oh, I listen incidentally, you know,
Speaker 4: if it happens to be on cater, if it happens
Speaker 4: to just you know, pop up on YouTube or something.
Speaker 4: But I am constantly in my what do you call that?
Speaker 4: Recently new releases? Right, yeah, and I'm always so surprised
Speaker 4: when my favorite artist pops out because I'm like, Wow,
Speaker 4: you really are in the studio cooking, you really are working.
Speaker 4: And then there are a few others where I'm like,
Speaker 4: it's been five years, when are you going to release something?
Speaker 4: We know that Rihanna recently came back after like a
Speaker 4: five plus y hiatus, if not six or seven. Scissa's
Speaker 4: another artist who constantly has her singles and things leaked
Speaker 4: and then never releases them. Yeah, or like you know,
Speaker 4: she'll have a little snippet on a SoundCloud or to
Speaker 4: go viral on TikTok. We'll all pressure to release it
Speaker 4: and she won't.
Speaker 1: What's that about.
Speaker 4: I guess she is, you know, sensitive and a perfectionist
Speaker 4: about her craft and wants it to be right. And
Speaker 4: then you know people like Franko, you know, gone for
Speaker 4: so long, And I understand this idea of you know,
Speaker 4: creating anticipation and getting people really excited and also for
Speaker 4: your creative experience, wanting to see that process through and
Speaker 4: be really proud of what you end up creating. But
Speaker 4: what happens is it creates this double edged sword with
Speaker 4: your consumer One people get really really irate angry and
Speaker 4: almost turn on you out of love. I know people
Speaker 4: who are really who carry a lot of disdain for
Speaker 4: Rihanna for making us wait so long for a single
Speaker 4: because we love you so much and we want new music,
Speaker 4: and it's like, well it's not really, it's not ready.
Speaker 4: But then alternatively, what I think it does is it
Speaker 4: creates a standard that because you've waited so long, the
Speaker 4: music will be really, really good when it gets and
Speaker 4: sometimes it's just not the case, as seen with Rihanna.
Speaker 4: For example, she released a new song. It's called Lift
Speaker 4: Me Up. It's for the Black Panther soundtrack, and the
Speaker 4: song is meant to be a tribute to Chadwick Boseman,
Speaker 4: who is Black Panther, who passed away.
Speaker 3: Right, we didn't know that. The fans didn't know that,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 4: So when reality, she's coming back the Umbrella girl trying
Speaker 4: to pop something light. You know, we're expecting basslines, you know,
Speaker 4: like one twenty bpm. It's for the club, and so
Speaker 4: we press play and it's a funeral song and we're like.
Speaker 3: Love this, but what do we do with this?
Speaker 4: And it's so bizarre seeing how like, you know, it's
Speaker 4: number three on Spotify. Globally, yet the sentiment is, please
Speaker 4: bring something else from the archives. We need something fresh,
Speaker 4: something light.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess it's a good thing in terms of
Speaker 1: first day streaming. Like if you if your goal is
Speaker 1: to make a big impact, then coming back after seven
Speaker 1: years is good. It's probably not good for your creativity,
Speaker 1: I think, because you're not putting out a considered body
Speaker 1: of work, Like obviously, she just brought that out because
Speaker 1: it's part of the soundtrack, and.
Speaker 4: She's getting a bag for it, probably, which is the
Speaker 4: smartest thing to do if Sis doesn't really want to
Speaker 4: make music like that anymore.
Speaker 3: And Black Panther's like, hey, we've got.
Speaker 4: A couple MILLI four years, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: and the fans are gonna love this. Why would you
Speaker 4: say no? I'm just thinking I'm just too sensitive for that.
Speaker 4: I could not imagine being gone for so long coming
Speaker 4: back and like, yeah, flop eerror, flop era.
Speaker 1: It's different. Well, I think a lot of artists and
Speaker 1: musicians and actors nowadays do their different things in between,
Speaker 1: you know, in the hiatus. For example, Seth Rogan obviously
Speaker 1: from super Bad? Is he from ser Bad? Now he's
Speaker 1: from Knocked Up? Pretty sure. Seth Rogan. Anyway, everybody knows
Speaker 1: he's like this, and he I don't think he's done
Speaker 1: a movie for a while. But he's now got this ceramics.
Speaker 1: He makes ceramics that are incredible. They're honestly pieces of
Speaker 1: art that you'd see in the MGV. So now he's
Speaker 1: like bringing his creativity through in a different way. So
Speaker 1: there's there's bonuses to be had with hiatuses. It's just
Speaker 1: sometimes I think people's hiatuses don't yield more creative work
Speaker 1: for the consumer. I'm all about the hiatus personally. Sure
Speaker 1: it might set you back for a little bit, but life,
Speaker 1: if you can't enjoy.
Speaker 4: It's being in a flip air enjoyable.
Speaker 1: See Io Question Flecks and Firms, New Flix.
Speaker 3: Yah.
Speaker 1: I came across this teaktok and it was very compelling
Speaker 1: because little text said how to make someone like you?
Speaker 1: And I thought we need more of that in our life.
Speaker 1: Here's how it goes.
Speaker 2: Do you want to trick someone into making trick like you?
Speaker 2: Still a little.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not what you said, trickery. It was how
Speaker 4: to make someone like you? And now we're doing how
Speaker 4: to trick someone into liking you? I don't know if
Speaker 4: I want that.
Speaker 2: Do you want to trick someone into making them like
Speaker 2: you just feel a little bit more like? This psychology
Speaker 2: trick is known to make anyone, even your mom, your boss,
Speaker 2: your boyfriend, your crush, anyone like may already least a
Speaker 2: little bit more. Okay, the next time that you are
Speaker 2: with this person, I need you to ask them to
Speaker 2: do you a favor that is so small a favor
Speaker 2: that they will say yes to, something like can you
Speaker 2: grab me a cup of water? Or can you pick
Speaker 2: up that pen off the floor for me? Something small,
Speaker 2: And once they've done that fever for you, just simply
Speaker 2: thank them and see their name at the end of
Speaker 2: that something like thank you, Jake. What this does is
Speaker 2: subconsciously they will believe that because they did you a
Speaker 2: small fever, that they liked you, because otherwise they wouldn't
Speaker 2: be doing that thing for you. If you want a
Speaker 2: brot to him.
Speaker 1: Hmmm, I must say, anyone who asked me to do anything,
Speaker 1: I don't like. I'm here on this earth for myself,
Speaker 1: myself only. I'm trying to think about someone. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to think about relationships where it's been manipulative. I'm thinking
Speaker 1: For example, an old boss, we had a love hate relationship.
Speaker 1: She was very demanding.
Speaker 3: Is this mutual She's aware that it was a love
Speaker 3: hate relationship.
Speaker 1: In the end, Yeah, probably, But in the beginning I
Speaker 1: really wanted to get her validation blah blah blah. And
Speaker 1: I can imagine her using this technique and me falling
Speaker 1: for it a little bit because you do feel like, oh,
Speaker 1: I want to help you. I want to feel I
Speaker 1: want to feel like I'm someone you could rely on
Speaker 1: to do something for you. So I think it's clever
Speaker 1: in that way.
Speaker 4: So how to get someone to like you a little
Speaker 4: bit more is to trick them into doing a small
Speaker 4: favor for you, which gives you, presumably the illusion that
Speaker 4: or gives them the illusion that.
Speaker 3: You are trustworthy, reliable, et cetera.
Speaker 4: I feel like this could work, but in my head,
Speaker 4: asking someone to do something for me would create more
Speaker 4: of a team work environment than a we like each
Speaker 4: other environment. So, for example, if I'm in a work
Speaker 4: environment and you want to appear like a team player,
Speaker 4: the quickest way to do that is to share the load.
Speaker 4: To share the load, what's the word I'm looking for?
Speaker 4: Intentionally right? To be like I'm not going to take
Speaker 4: this from you. I'm going to give you a little
Speaker 4: bit older, a little bit we're working together. I don't
Speaker 4: know if that makes someone like you though, Like I
Speaker 4: don't unless I haven't been manipulated.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I see you as the manipulated more than
Speaker 1: the manipularity.
Speaker 3: Yeah, someone manipulate me. Let's shed the load a little bit.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what everyone's heard about, the technique of like,
Speaker 1: use someone's name heaps and they'll.
Speaker 3: Like, you can do you do that?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I can't remember people's names. Literally. I can think of
Speaker 1: multiple instances this weekend of meeting people. It's like my
Speaker 1: brain goes into a trance. And I hate this because
Speaker 1: it's so said all the time, Oh I don't remember names.
Speaker 1: It's like, this is a serious psychological issue that I'm
Speaker 1: suffering with not remembering people's names. As you smile as
Speaker 1: you say, is it not serious, I'm no, it's honestly,
Speaker 1: it's like the comprehension goes out the window. It's like maths,
Speaker 1: it's going over the top of the head. Even today
Speaker 1: in the studio we've got Josh and Will watching on.
Speaker 1: I always go to call Josh Will, and I always
Speaker 1: forget Will's name, and he's crying now he's put a
Speaker 1: little tearing.
Speaker 3: But see'stalte from Will about that?
Speaker 1: Please, Will, what are your thoughts? O?
Speaker 3: He gets it, I'm gonna fight you for that.
Speaker 1: One doesn't mean that I don't know Will Well, it's
Speaker 1: just that the brain does. I don't trust myself, Lex.
Speaker 1: It's a bit of a self esteem issue, if anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, are you doing anything to work on it?
Speaker 1: Ah, I don't know how to. I don't know how
Speaker 1: to work on it.
Speaker 3: You tried anything?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I met it? Okay, that's true. I was
Speaker 1: walking down the street the other day. Yeah, I'm walking
Speaker 1: up this really big hill to go to cut Lunch
Speaker 1: Jellow to get a coffee, really good sandwich place owned
Speaker 1: by this sit called Libby. She's a legend anyway, became,
Speaker 1: you know, became a local living. I'm walking up this
Speaker 1: street and I see this lady with these two dogs.
Speaker 1: One of them looks like a chiuaha. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like a bit tubbier, more like a ah the chiuahua.
Speaker 1: The chuaha got it a bit chonky. It was kind
Speaker 1: of more like a Jack Russell. But I go, of course,
Speaker 1: oh my god, your dog's so cute because we were
Speaker 1: kind of doing that thing where we were walking next
Speaker 1: to each other but didn't know each other. You both
Speaker 1: like soldiering up a hill and your way too close.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: Usually I'll across the road, yeah definitely, but this time
Speaker 1: I just, you know, I was on machirit exactly. So
Speaker 1: we started talking and she's like, Oh, I just live
Speaker 1: in this house up here. I'm gonna have a bash
Speaker 1: on Monday night for Halloween. Do you want to come down.
Speaker 1: I just want to meet locals. And she said to me,
Speaker 1: her name is I'll do a pseudonym Lily. Great, Oh,
Speaker 1: pretty close to your lily. My name is Lily, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, we're chatting in Then two minutes later I
Speaker 1: was leaving. I'm like, sorry, I forgot your name. What
Speaker 1: is it again? She goes, Lily, look, try and remember
Speaker 1: it like this, A lily is a beautiful flower that
Speaker 1: grows on the top of the water. And then it
Speaker 1: was going to make me remember. Now I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think of what hers was because obviously your name wasn't Lily.
Speaker 1: I want to say it was Cassandra, but then also
Speaker 1: I don't want to listen to this and think I'm
Speaker 1: exploiting her lovely neighborliness for content said Cassandra is something
Speaker 1: in Latin, and.
Speaker 3: Yet you still don't remember, yeah exactly, So it didn't work.
Speaker 1: I can't be helped.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tricky. Do you know the name thing?
Speaker 4: If you're not okay, how do I explain this? I'm
Speaker 4: giving you the benefit of the doubt because imagine you
Speaker 4: meet a lot of people and the interactions you're having
Speaker 4: with people are very presumptuous. They know you, so your
Speaker 4: chat and chat and chatting, and before you know it,
Speaker 4: you're like, wait, who are they?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: What is your name?
Speaker 4: If it's not that. I just think a lot of
Speaker 4: people aren't that memorable or their name is not the
Speaker 4: most memorable thing about them. Some people have amazing personalities,
Speaker 4: great outfits, really interesting stories, And I think to myself, yeah,
Speaker 4: your name just doesn't stick because it's not memorable.
Speaker 3: But that has nothing to.
Speaker 4: Do with your merit as a person, whether or not
Speaker 4: I remember you generally, just the name wasn't giving anything.
Speaker 1: I like, it's like that, but I don't think it's anything.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if it's memorable or not memorible. Like
Speaker 1: another examples, I went into Berkelow Books the other day
Speaker 1: in Paddington, and the chick's like, oh my god, you
Speaker 1: do that podcast with Late I recommend that voice. Her Name'salia,
Speaker 1: told me. And then I had to literally I walk
Speaker 1: out of the shop. I go to text you say,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this chick said she really likes you.
Speaker 1: Her name's Alia or something, And even then I didn't
Speaker 1: trust myself to know her name is Alia. It's like
Speaker 1: short term memorial amnesia. I'd love to get better at it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got a lot of things going on, though,
Speaker 3: so I feel like it's just it's just.
Speaker 1: Across.
Speaker 3: You'll get there when you get there. It's just not
Speaker 3: that big of a priority.
Speaker 4: But I will say, if you're somebody who finds themselves
Speaker 4: constantly forgotten or that the name is forgotten, I used
Speaker 4: to not believe it was as severe as it is
Speaker 4: until I one became friends with a person who was
Speaker 4: constantly forgotten and dated someone who was constantly forgotten.
Speaker 3: I was like, WHOA, that sucks.
Speaker 4: Ah, like you, it would feel so dehumanizing to be like,
Speaker 4: you know, I've definitely had an interaction with this person
Speaker 4: many a time, and they're not remembering me. So I
Speaker 4: don't want to say channel that trauma into something productive,
Speaker 4: but I want to say if it's a reoccurring thing,
Speaker 4: there is room to be like, Okay, how can I
Speaker 4: help here?
Speaker 3: Yeah, if it matters to you.
Speaker 1: This is Flex and Frooms on DA I've seen a.
Speaker 3: Lot of really bizarre theories on the internet.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's just my for you page that this stuff
Speaker 4: just comes up because it knows I'm interested. We've talked
Speaker 4: about the green line theory, which is when you're analyzing
Speaker 4: a photo of a couple or people who are dating,
Speaker 4: whoever is leaning into the other person presumably has less
Speaker 4: power in the dynamic. Whoever is standing upwards straight, whatever
Speaker 4: degree that is zero twelve o'clock. They are the person
Speaker 4: who is seen to be as dominant or more secure.
Speaker 3: Or holds more power hard degree. I don't even know yet.
Speaker 4: I'm still I don't think I've I need to look
Speaker 4: at more pictures of couples to know. I feel like,
Speaker 4: you know, let's look get into it. We've discussed it before.
Speaker 4: You know where to find it. The podcast Flex and
Speaker 4: Rooms anyway, anywhere you get good podcasts. But I was
Speaker 4: sent to this red nail theory, and it's this idea
Speaker 4: that if you you know a woman who dates men,
Speaker 4: if you wear red now polish, you'll be seen as irresistible.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking, Okay, where's the rest of it, Like, what
Speaker 4: is the theory? This is just a one line statement.
Speaker 4: So I did some googles, and by googles, I went
Speaker 4: to TikTok and searched that red noil theories and thought
Speaker 4: would come up. And there was this one girl called
Speaker 4: girl Boss Town who had been trying out the red
Speaker 4: now theory, presumably to attract some men. And she says
Speaker 4: that her theory is that of the men that she's
Speaker 4: trying to attract in that age group thirty year olds
Speaker 4: or whatever. She feels like it's like a Sigmund Freddy
Speaker 4: Oedipus complex. Your mom likely had red nails, so it
Speaker 4: reminds you of you know, warmth and empathy and nurturing
Speaker 4: and caring and whatever, whatever, whatever, And so that's what
Speaker 4: you're drawing you to the nail. And then you apply
Speaker 4: those attributes to the person who also has the now color.
Speaker 4: What do you think?
Speaker 1: Ah? I mean, I will say, if you're thirty now,
Speaker 1: your mom probably did wear the red now.
Speaker 4: Sure.
Speaker 3: My mum was a red now polish person. But I'm
Speaker 3: not thirty. I wouldn't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, true twenty four. I mean I kind of see it.
Speaker 1: I think that red nails would turn straight men off.
Speaker 3: Oh please pray tell.
Speaker 1: Because it's kind of in that like. I also think
Speaker 1: red lipstick turns men off.
Speaker 4: We've got two men in the in the room. We've
Speaker 4: got two men in the room. Let's ask them, Josh,
Speaker 4: red nails, yes or no? Wow, give us some thinking.
Speaker 4: Josh says indifference. That's one man down. We've got another one.
Speaker 1: Will he's into red, he's into red nails.
Speaker 3: We're getting an aggressive thumbs up.
Speaker 1: Does your wife wear red nails? Yep, yep, the wife
Speaker 1: wears red nails? What about red lipstick?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit more indifferent, but we'll take it.
Speaker 4: We've actually managed to find a third man, which is
Speaker 4: just it's a lot of representation for us.
Speaker 3: How do you feel about red nails? Louis Hi all the.
Speaker 1: Way up and red lipstick? Whoa a man wants some
Speaker 1: red lips?
Speaker 4: Love data flex and froom census. I see you thought
Speaker 4: you knew something for a second. How dare you speak
Speaker 4: about about men in the room? Wow, I need more
Speaker 4: questions to ask them.
Speaker 3: That was so fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll do it. We'll do it again next time.
Speaker 1: Thanks for that. This is flex and frooms.
Speaker 4: You know me. For me, you're like data and I
Speaker 4: like star signs when they come together. It's one of
Speaker 4: my main interests. We've also figured out, like, which star
Speaker 4: sign is most likely to be a billionaire. Maurice knows Taurus.
Speaker 4: It definitely wasn't a Sagittarius, that's for sure, a lot
Speaker 4: of Sagittarius shade. I was doing some more research and
Speaker 4: I was like, what's the most rare star sign? Because
Speaker 4: I have an individuality complex and I would like to
Speaker 4: know that if I fit into a cricteria, I could
Speaker 4: share the information with you.
Speaker 3: But unfortunately, the most rare star sign is Virgo. No,
Speaker 3: why do you guess that?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just never really hear of virgos.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I only know like two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right? What is it?
Speaker 3: Aquarius?
Speaker 4: February born people? It makes sense that Holy Year twenty
Speaker 4: eight days situation. And what's really wild is that stereotypically
Speaker 4: Aquariuses have individuality complexes and want to be perceived as
Speaker 4: unique and rare, so this suits them.
Speaker 3: I'm so happy Aquarius Aquaria.
Speaker 1: I just think of mermaids.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they're an air sign, so the aqua
Speaker 4: will throw you off. Yeah, okay, And what are you
Speaker 4: your aries in Aris with Aquarius? Well, I was in
Speaker 4: pre Aquarius. You know, I was meant to be born
Speaker 4: on my dad's birthday, which is February twenty seven.
Speaker 3: It would suit you. I was seven days late, damn.
Speaker 1: Because individuality, it's individuality complex. I was born on the
Speaker 1: third or the third. You're so different, and I'm a
Speaker 1: lucky little binch.
Speaker 3: Oh hello, Binch.
Speaker 1: Just in the studio now. So if you're a big
Speaker 1: listener of the show, you know we have a ghost,
Speaker 1: a poltergeist like creature among us what we record, and
Speaker 1: the little decorative blossoms behind flex have just fell dramatically.
Speaker 1: She looked around, kind of only haunts me though, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's because I'm one of them. They don't follow with me.
Speaker 4: See how can the ghost denier, the spooky denier claim
Speaker 4: that she's one of the polter guys. One day we'll
Speaker 4: know the real story about rooms. Because she's mentioned before
Speaker 4: that she doesn't believe in esoteric things, but her family
Speaker 4: does regular seances. So I'm a bit confused, but we
Speaker 4: won't dig into it.
Speaker 1: Now you're listening to flex and frooms on KEDA.
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Speaker 1: This one is a really good one. It's a Sydney
Speaker 1: based and my varshole which you know me and my
Speaker 1: location based baddie. I love location stories and this is
Speaker 1: question for dog owners. Am I in the wrong here? Oh,
Speaker 1: get straight to it. To preface this post, I'm not
Speaker 1: a dog owner. I'm a cat person, but I do
Speaker 1: love dog dogs and I have had many great interactions
Speaker 1: with dog and dog owners. I had a small run
Speaker 1: in with a dog owner and wanted to get some
Speaker 1: opinions on whether they or I were in the wrong here.
Speaker 1: Yesterday afternoon, my partner I were taking engagement photos in
Speaker 1: Centennial Park Slay this time. This part of the park
Speaker 1: is an off lead area and though we were generally
Speaker 1: in the bushy part of the park. We saw many
Speaker 1: people walking their dogs past us, ride bikes, et cetera.
Speaker 1: No issues. They probably saw me rollerbating because I was
Speaker 1: there this week. At one point in the shoot, a
Speaker 1: staffy bolts into our photographer, nearly knocking her over, tries
Speaker 1: to jump onto my partner, fortunately missing as she was
Speaker 1: in a white dress, and then jumps onto me, leaving
Speaker 1: a big dirty smudge on my shirt again somewhat Fortunately
Speaker 1: you couldn't really see it on the navy the dog
Speaker 1: as he's jumping around for good ten seconds while I'm
Speaker 1: yelling at to the owner, who turns out to be
Speaker 1: a gentleman a good fifty to sixty meters away, not
Speaker 1: paying attention to what is happening. He calls his dog
Speaker 1: in and waves an apology before yelling, you know you're
Speaker 1: in a dog park right now. Actually, you have no
Speaker 1: problem with being approached by a dog. Indeed, a staffy
Speaker 1: was clearly super friendly, and on another day I might
Speaker 1: have given it a pat. My issue more is that
Speaker 1: the dog owner was clearly not paying attention to his
Speaker 1: dog and would barge into a group of people and
Speaker 1: started jumping on them. Therefore, the park is not a
Speaker 1: dog park. It is a public park with an off
Speaker 1: lead area, and the park guardlines specify that dogs should
Speaker 1: be under effective control while of lead. Finally, we must
Speaker 1: have seen at least one hundred other dogs that day
Speaker 1: off leads, none of which gave us an issue like this,
Speaker 1: And the photographer noted that in all the years she'd
Speaker 1: been photographing there, nothing like.
Speaker 3: That headed photographing.
Speaker 1: In any case, our interaction ended there, but I was
Speaker 1: looking for opinions on whether my ire at this particular
Speaker 1: dog owner was warranted, or whether or not we should
Speaker 1: be he should be more attentive in this off lead area.
Speaker 1: Did you write this.
Speaker 2: This?
Speaker 3: Mas is a descendant of the French family, my ancestors.
Speaker 4: I don't mean to laugh at people's misfortunes, but I've
Speaker 4: said it a thousand times before. If you're trying to
Speaker 4: do private stuff in a public area, you risk what
Speaker 4: you risk, right. I can't imagine in any world someone
Speaker 4: wanting to take bridal photos in a dog park and
Speaker 4: then feeling some kind of way that a dog came
Speaker 4: up to them.
Speaker 3: Babe, you're in their space, get out of here, and
Speaker 3: then to bring.
Speaker 4: Up the park guidelines or the park guidelines say that
Speaker 4: you have to keep an eye on your dog. Okay,
Speaker 4: and this is my thing, right, I understand that they
Speaker 4: understand that they're in the wrong, but then trying to
Speaker 4: paint this picture around it.
Speaker 3: But like, no, there were other dogs in the area,
Speaker 3: and the other dogs didn't do this. This is the thing.
Speaker 4: If you want privacy in public spaces, you gotta pay
Speaker 4: a fee, get some security, get some get some helpful friends,
Speaker 4: make it do what it does. You were cutting corners
Speaker 4: and now look, get a little stuff here running up.
Speaker 4: No part of me thinks that the stuffy or the
Speaker 4: stuff he's owner should be blamed. Sorry, not even a
Speaker 4: little bit.
Speaker 1: Look, as a personal person that doesn't like dogs, reform.
Speaker 1: I said it once, I've said it again. I'm going
Speaker 1: back into my disliking dog ear. Just oh, just one
Speaker 1: week ago, I decided I can't have a Chihuahua. Okay,
Speaker 1: I can't deal with picking up dog shit. No, I
Speaker 1: can't deal with having an animal that like.
Speaker 3: But you're ready for motherhood, you say, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: That's different. That's different. That's like a long term like
Speaker 1: a dog is always a dog, you know, it doesn't
Speaker 1: have many other attributes that a non dog.
Speaker 3: Like, Oh, but a baby grows up, a baby grows up.
Speaker 1: Okay, line shade, line shade. I'm in favor of the
Speaker 1: wedding people. I don't believe in dogs being off leashes
Speaker 1: in an area where there are children or bikes. Too
Speaker 1: many times in Centennial have I seen or heard of stories,
Speaker 1: Because if you haven't been to Centennial Park, it's this
Speaker 1: massive park in Sydney with a ring around it which
Speaker 1: is like a ring road with people on bikes, roller
Speaker 1: blades and cars. Sometimes people get their dogs off leashes
Speaker 1: and dogs who run in front of bikes, bikeners get injured,
Speaker 1: dogs get killed. This is a regular current since Centennial
Speaker 1: Park and therefore I believe it should be a leash
Speaker 1: only area. I believe dogs should only be a lot
Speaker 1: of fleecies if they're in a fenced area.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I feel like you're missing the point though,
Speaker 4: Like if if I was taking bridle pictures in an
Speaker 4: area for bridle pictures and a dog came up, I'd
Speaker 4: be pissed off. But you're going to a dog park
Speaker 4: where you know off lead dogs will be and getting
Speaker 4: surprised and an a offley dog came up to you,
Speaker 4: It just feels nonsensical. It just feels like if you
Speaker 4: really cared so much about your photos, you would go
Speaker 4: somewhere where you're like, you know what, the margin of
Speaker 4: error is so slim because we've taken precautions.
Speaker 3: And again, you're in a public area, Like anything could have.
Speaker 4: Happened, right, A little kid could have come up to you,
Speaker 4: a bird could have shout on you, and then what
Speaker 4: you're gonna be like calling Peter being like a wanna
Speaker 4: bullish or birds or whatever. I just feel like, and
Speaker 4: maybe it's my thing about public areas, but I feel
Speaker 4: like we have so many services available for people who
Speaker 4: are particular about what they want to do in spaces. Right,
Speaker 4: if you know what you're after, go to a place
Speaker 4: suitable for what you're after, as opposed to now orienting
Speaker 4: everyone to make your life easier because you want the
Speaker 4: benefit of having this like amazing experience in a public area,
Speaker 4: people are just trying to walk their dogs. Go have
Speaker 4: your bridal party photos elsewhere, Like go to.
Speaker 1: A green screen, get the photographer to take some pictures
Speaker 1: of Centennial.
Speaker 3: Go to the botanic gardens.
Speaker 4: You know there's a bunch of leafy areas that no
Speaker 4: four legged creatures are going to jump on you at
Speaker 4: it feels really simple to me.
Speaker 3: I don't know. There's something about like.
Speaker 1: What is that?
Speaker 4: Uh, Murphy's law, whatever can go wrong will go wrong.
Speaker 4: And then we also have Ockham's razor. The simplest answer
Speaker 4: is usually the best answer. So if you want to
Speaker 4: take a photo in a place where damage is unlikely
Speaker 4: to happen, go to a place where damage is unlikely
Speaker 4: to happen. Sorry to this person, I know you want
Speaker 4: to support, but I just don't see it for you.
Speaker 1: Look, all I'm gonna say is Staffi's are to be feared,
Speaker 1: Yes or no. We'll come to that to another break.
Speaker 1: But Staffy's pit bulls bulldogs, not from APAM.
Speaker 3: Wow.
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