WEBVTT - How To Make Someone Like You More 💗

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<v Speaker 1>The Flex and Rooms Daily.

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<v Speaker 2>Podcast, brought to you by Cada.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Friday again, It's Saturday Sunday. Remember that song was

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<v Speaker 1>a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it still is for a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro that song.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I tell you something wild?

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<v Speaker 4>I turned to so We're sitting in the show studio

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<v Speaker 4>and I turned to look to my left, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>so sure I saw a little goblin gremlin.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a tripod. But outside at the reception there is

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<v Speaker 4>a little kind of like odd figure, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like a ceramic figure holding a dish with Halloween lollies.

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<v Speaker 4>And it reminded me of this thing. I used to

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<v Speaker 4>ask people that if you saw something so nonsensical, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like a bear flying or a three headed man, would

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<v Speaker 4>you sooner believe that you were going crazier that it

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<v Speaker 4>actually happened. And I always say that I would sooner

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<v Speaker 4>believe that it's actually happening, not that I'm going crazy,

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<v Speaker 4>but these days not so sure. The other day I

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<v Speaker 4>was driving looked in my rearview mirror and I saw

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<v Speaker 4>where I saw some kind of like metallicky ready slimy

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<v Speaker 4>figure coming out that the bottom of a car.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, what that was my pussy?

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, guys politicizing the shudio midway through flex from my Gremlins,

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<v Speaker 1>the leaves behind her fall into a disastrous little pattern.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that was me that time. Anyway, I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>see the thing. It was like a trick of the

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<v Speaker 4>eye or whatever. But what if it wasn't? You know?

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<v Speaker 4>So now what I'm trying to do is to express

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<v Speaker 4>when I'm seeing odd things, just in case they happen

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<v Speaker 4>more often.

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<v Speaker 3>So we've got a pattern.

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<v Speaker 1>You're probably looking out for them. No, yeah, anyway, it's Friday. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I listen to the podcast Fleck and Frooms Flexi as

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<v Speaker 1>per you come to the show with some very interesting

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<v Speaker 1>conversation to be had. What have you got today?

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<v Speaker 4>Always, I've been thinking a lot about musicians going on hiatus,

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<v Speaker 4>only because as someone who is an avid music listener,

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<v Speaker 4>and not everybody identifies as such. I don't know a

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<v Speaker 4>few people are like, oh, I listen incidentally, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>if it happens to be on cater, if it happens

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<v Speaker 4>to just you know, pop up on YouTube or something.

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<v Speaker 4>But I am constantly in my what do you call that?

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<v Speaker 4>Recently new releases? Right, yeah, and I'm always so surprised

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<v Speaker 4>when my favorite artist pops out because I'm like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>you really are in the studio cooking, you really are working.

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<v Speaker 4>And then there are a few others where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>it's been five years, when are you going to release something?

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<v Speaker 4>We know that Rihanna recently came back after like a

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<v Speaker 4>five plus y hiatus, if not six or seven. Scissa's

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<v Speaker 4>another artist who constantly has her singles and things leaked

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<v Speaker 4>and then never releases them. Yeah, or like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>she'll have a little snippet on a SoundCloud or to

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<v Speaker 4>go viral on TikTok. We'll all pressure to release it

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<v Speaker 4>and she won't.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that about.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess she is, you know, sensitive and a perfectionist

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<v Speaker 4>about her craft and wants it to be right. And

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<v Speaker 4>then you know people like Franko, you know, gone for

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<v Speaker 4>so long, And I understand this idea of you know,

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<v Speaker 4>creating anticipation and getting people really excited and also for

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<v Speaker 4>your creative experience, wanting to see that process through and

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<v Speaker 4>be really proud of what you end up creating. But

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<v Speaker 4>what happens is it creates this double edged sword with

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<v Speaker 4>your consumer One people get really really irate angry and

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<v Speaker 4>almost turn on you out of love. I know people

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<v Speaker 4>who are really who carry a lot of disdain for

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<v Speaker 4>Rihanna for making us wait so long for a single

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<v Speaker 4>because we love you so much and we want new music,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's like, well it's not really, it's not ready.

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<v Speaker 4>But then alternatively, what I think it does is it

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<v Speaker 4>creates a standard that because you've waited so long, the

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<v Speaker 4>music will be really, really good when it gets and

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes it's just not the case, as seen with Rihanna.

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<v Speaker 4>For example, she released a new song. It's called Lift

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<v Speaker 4>Me Up. It's for the Black Panther soundtrack, and the

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<v Speaker 4>song is meant to be a tribute to Chadwick Boseman,

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<v Speaker 4>who is Black Panther, who passed away.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, we didn't know that. The fans didn't know that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So when reality, she's coming back the Umbrella girl trying

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<v Speaker 4>to pop something light. You know, we're expecting basslines, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like one twenty bpm. It's for the club, and so

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<v Speaker 4>we press play and it's a funeral song and we're like.

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<v Speaker 3>Love this, but what do we do with this?

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<v Speaker 4>And it's so bizarre seeing how like, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>number three on Spotify. Globally, yet the sentiment is, please

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<v Speaker 4>bring something else from the archives. We need something fresh,

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<v Speaker 4>something light.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess it's a good thing in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>first day streaming. Like if you if your goal is

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<v Speaker 1>to make a big impact, then coming back after seven

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<v Speaker 1>years is good. It's probably not good for your creativity,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, because you're not putting out a considered body

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<v Speaker 1>of work, Like obviously, she just brought that out because

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<v Speaker 1>it's part of the soundtrack, and.

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<v Speaker 4>She's getting a bag for it, probably, which is the

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<v Speaker 4>smartest thing to do if Sis doesn't really want to

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<v Speaker 4>make music like that anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>And Black Panther's like, hey, we've got.

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<v Speaker 4>A couple MILLI four years, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 4>and the fans are gonna love this. Why would you

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<v Speaker 4>say no? I'm just thinking I'm just too sensitive for that.

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<v Speaker 4>I could not imagine being gone for so long coming

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<v Speaker 4>back and like, yeah, flop eerror, flop era.

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<v Speaker 1>It's different. Well, I think a lot of artists and

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<v Speaker 1>musicians and actors nowadays do their different things in between,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the hiatus. For example, Seth Rogan obviously

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<v Speaker 1>from super Bad? Is he from ser Bad? Now he's

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<v Speaker 1>from Knocked Up? Pretty sure. Seth Rogan. Anyway, everybody knows

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<v Speaker 1>he's like this, and he I don't think he's done

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<v Speaker 1>a movie for a while. But he's now got this ceramics.

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<v Speaker 1>He makes ceramics that are incredible. They're honestly pieces of

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<v Speaker 1>art that you'd see in the MGV. So now he's

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<v Speaker 1>like bringing his creativity through in a different way. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's bonuses to be had with hiatuses. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I think people's hiatuses don't yield more creative work

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<v Speaker 1>for the consumer. I'm all about the hiatus personally. Sure

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<v Speaker 1>it might set you back for a little bit, but life,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can't enjoy.

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<v Speaker 4>It's being in a flip air enjoyable.

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<v Speaker 1>See Io Question Flecks and Firms, New Flix.

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<v Speaker 3>Yah.

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<v Speaker 1>I came across this teaktok and it was very compelling

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<v Speaker 1>because little text said how to make someone like you?

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought we need more of that in our life.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's how it goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to trick someone into making trick like you?

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<v Speaker 2>Still a little.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's not what you said, trickery. It was how

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<v Speaker 4>to make someone like you? And now we're doing how

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<v Speaker 4>to trick someone into liking you? I don't know if

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<v Speaker 4>I want that.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to trick someone into making them like

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<v Speaker 2>you just feel a little bit more like? This psychology

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<v Speaker 2>trick is known to make anyone, even your mom, your boss,

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<v Speaker 2>your boyfriend, your crush, anyone like may already least a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more. Okay, the next time that you are

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<v Speaker 2>with this person, I need you to ask them to

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<v Speaker 2>do you a favor that is so small a favor

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<v Speaker 2>that they will say yes to, something like can you

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<v Speaker 2>grab me a cup of water? Or can you pick

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<v Speaker 2>up that pen off the floor for me? Something small,

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<v Speaker 2>And once they've done that fever for you, just simply

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<v Speaker 2>thank them and see their name at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>that something like thank you, Jake. What this does is

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<v Speaker 2>subconsciously they will believe that because they did you a

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<v Speaker 2>small fever, that they liked you, because otherwise they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be doing that thing for you. If you want a

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<v Speaker 2>brot to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmmm, I must say, anyone who asked me to do anything,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like. I'm here on this earth for myself,

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<v Speaker 1>myself only. I'm trying to think about someone. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to think about relationships where it's been manipulative. I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 1>For example, an old boss, we had a love hate relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>She was very demanding.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this mutual She's aware that it was a love

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<v Speaker 3>hate relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>In the end, Yeah, probably, But in the beginning I

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<v Speaker 1>really wanted to get her validation blah blah blah. And

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<v Speaker 1>I can imagine her using this technique and me falling

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<v Speaker 1>for it a little bit because you do feel like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to help you. I want to feel I

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<v Speaker 1>want to feel like I'm someone you could rely on

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<v Speaker 1>to do something for you. So I think it's clever

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<v Speaker 1>in that way.

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<v Speaker 4>So how to get someone to like you a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit more is to trick them into doing a small

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<v Speaker 4>favor for you, which gives you, presumably the illusion that

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<v Speaker 4>or gives them the illusion that.

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<v Speaker 3>You are trustworthy, reliable, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like this could work, but in my head,

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<v Speaker 4>asking someone to do something for me would create more

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<v Speaker 4>of a team work environment than a we like each

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<v Speaker 4>other environment. So, for example, if I'm in a work

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<v Speaker 4>environment and you want to appear like a team player,

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<v Speaker 4>the quickest way to do that is to share the load.

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<v Speaker 4>To share the load, what's the word I'm looking for?

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<v Speaker 4>Intentionally right? To be like I'm not going to take

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<v Speaker 4>this from you. I'm going to give you a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit older, a little bit we're working together. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if that makes someone like you though, Like I

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<v Speaker 4>don't unless I haven't been manipulated.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, I see you as the manipulated more than

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<v Speaker 1>the manipularity.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, someone manipulate me. Let's shed the load a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know what everyone's heard about, the technique of like,

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<v Speaker 1>use someone's name heaps and they'll.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, you can do you do that?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember people's names. Literally. I can think of

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<v Speaker 1>multiple instances this weekend of meeting people. It's like my

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<v Speaker 1>brain goes into a trance. And I hate this because

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<v Speaker 1>it's so said all the time, Oh I don't remember names.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, this is a serious psychological issue that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>suffering with not remembering people's names. As you smile as

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<v Speaker 1>you say, is it not serious, I'm no, it's honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the comprehension goes out the window. It's like maths,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going over the top of the head. Even today

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<v Speaker 1>in the studio we've got Josh and Will watching on.

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<v Speaker 1>I always go to call Josh Will, and I always

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<v Speaker 1>forget Will's name, and he's crying now he's put a

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<v Speaker 1>little tearing.

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<v Speaker 3>But see'stalte from Will about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Please, Will, what are your thoughts? O?

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<v Speaker 3>He gets it, I'm gonna fight you for that.

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<v Speaker 1>One doesn't mean that I don't know Will Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just that the brain does. I don't trust myself, Lex.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bit of a self esteem issue, if anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, are you doing anything to work on it?

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, I don't know how to. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>to work on it.

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<v Speaker 3>You tried anything?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I met it? Okay, that's true. I was

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<v Speaker 1>walking down the street the other day. Yeah, I'm walking

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<v Speaker 1>up this really big hill to go to cut Lunch

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<v Speaker 1>Jellow to get a coffee, really good sandwich place owned

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<v Speaker 1>by this sit called Libby. She's a legend anyway, became,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, became a local living. I'm walking up this

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<v Speaker 1>street and I see this lady with these two dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them looks like a chiuaha. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like a bit tubbier, more like a ah the chiuahua.

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<v Speaker 1>The chuaha got it a bit chonky. It was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of more like a Jack Russell. But I go, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, your dog's so cute because we were

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<v Speaker 1>kind of doing that thing where we were walking next

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<v Speaker 1>to each other but didn't know each other. You both

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<v Speaker 1>like soldiering up a hill and your way too close.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually I'll across the road, yeah definitely, but this time

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<v Speaker 1>I just, you know, I was on machirit exactly. So

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<v Speaker 1>we started talking and she's like, Oh, I just live

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<v Speaker 1>in this house up here. I'm gonna have a bash

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday night for Halloween. Do you want to come down.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to meet locals. And she said to me,

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<v Speaker 1>her name is I'll do a pseudonym Lily. Great, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty close to your lily. My name is Lily, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, we're chatting in Then two minutes later I

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<v Speaker 1>was leaving. I'm like, sorry, I forgot your name. What

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<v Speaker 1>is it again? She goes, Lily, look, try and remember

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<v Speaker 1>it like this, A lily is a beautiful flower that

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<v Speaker 1>grows on the top of the water. And then it

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<v Speaker 1>was going to make me remember. Now I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>think of what hers was because obviously your name wasn't Lily.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say it was Cassandra, but then also

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to listen to this and think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>exploiting her lovely neighborliness for content said Cassandra is something

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<v Speaker 1>in Latin, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Yet you still don't remember, yeah exactly, So it didn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't be helped.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's tricky. Do you know the name thing?

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<v Speaker 4>If you're not okay, how do I explain this? I'm

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<v Speaker 4>giving you the benefit of the doubt because imagine you

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<v Speaker 4>meet a lot of people and the interactions you're having

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<v Speaker 4>with people are very presumptuous. They know you, so your

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<v Speaker 4>chat and chat and chatting, and before you know it,

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<v Speaker 4>you're like, wait, who are they?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>What is your name?

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<v Speaker 4>If it's not that. I just think a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people aren't that memorable or their name is not the

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<v Speaker 4>most memorable thing about them. Some people have amazing personalities,

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<v Speaker 4>great outfits, really interesting stories, And I think to myself, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>your name just doesn't stick because it's not memorable.

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<v Speaker 3>But that has nothing to.

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<v Speaker 4>Do with your merit as a person, whether or not

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<v Speaker 4>I remember you generally, just the name wasn't giving anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I like, it's like that, but I don't think it's anything.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter if it's memorable or not memorible. Like

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<v Speaker 1>another examples, I went into Berkelow Books the other day

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<v Speaker 1>in Paddington, and the chick's like, oh my god, you

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<v Speaker 1>do that podcast with Late I recommend that voice. Her Name'salia,

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<v Speaker 1>told me. And then I had to literally I walk

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<v Speaker 1>out of the shop. I go to text you say,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, this chick said she really likes you.

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<v Speaker 1>Her name's Alia or something, And even then I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>trust myself to know her name is Alia. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>short term memorial amnesia. I'd love to get better at it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you got a lot of things going on, though,

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<v Speaker 3>so I feel like it's just it's just.

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<v Speaker 1>Across.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll get there when you get there. It's just not

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<v Speaker 3>that big of a priority.

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<v Speaker 4>But I will say, if you're somebody who finds themselves

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<v Speaker 4>constantly forgotten or that the name is forgotten, I used

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<v Speaker 4>to not believe it was as severe as it is

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<v Speaker 4>until I one became friends with a person who was

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<v Speaker 4>constantly forgotten and dated someone who was constantly forgotten.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, WHOA, that sucks.

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<v Speaker 4>Ah, like you, it would feel so dehumanizing to be like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I've definitely had an interaction with this person

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<v Speaker 4>many a time, and they're not remembering me. So I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to say channel that trauma into something productive,

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<v Speaker 4>but I want to say if it's a reoccurring thing,

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<v Speaker 4>there is room to be like, Okay, how can I

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<v Speaker 4>help here?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if it matters to you.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Flex and Frooms on DA I've seen a.

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<v Speaker 3>Lot of really bizarre theories on the internet.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe it's just my for you page that this stuff

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<v Speaker 4>just comes up because it knows I'm interested. We've talked

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<v Speaker 4>about the green line theory, which is when you're analyzing

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<v Speaker 4>a photo of a couple or people who are dating,

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<v Speaker 4>whoever is leaning into the other person presumably has less

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<v Speaker 4>power in the dynamic. Whoever is standing upwards straight, whatever

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<v Speaker 4>degree that is zero twelve o'clock. They are the person

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<v Speaker 4>who is seen to be as dominant or more secure.

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<v Speaker 3>Or holds more power hard degree. I don't even know yet.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm still I don't think I've I need to look

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<v Speaker 4>at more pictures of couples to know. I feel like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, let's look get into it. We've discussed it before.

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<v Speaker 4>You know where to find it. The podcast Flex and

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<v Speaker 4>Rooms anyway, anywhere you get good podcasts. But I was

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<v Speaker 4>sent to this red nail theory, and it's this idea

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<v Speaker 4>that if you you know a woman who dates men,

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<v Speaker 4>if you wear red now polish, you'll be seen as irresistible.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking, Okay, where's the rest of it, Like, what

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<v Speaker 4>is the theory? This is just a one line statement.

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<v Speaker 4>So I did some googles, and by googles, I went

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<v Speaker 4>to TikTok and searched that red noil theories and thought

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<v Speaker 4>would come up. And there was this one girl called

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<v Speaker 4>girl Boss Town who had been trying out the red

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<v Speaker 4>now theory, presumably to attract some men. And she says

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<v Speaker 4>that her theory is that of the men that she's

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<v Speaker 4>trying to attract in that age group thirty year olds

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever. She feels like it's like a Sigmund Freddy

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<v Speaker 4>Oedipus complex. Your mom likely had red nails, so it

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<v Speaker 4>reminds you of you know, warmth and empathy and nurturing

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<v Speaker 4>and caring and whatever, whatever, whatever, And so that's what

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<v Speaker 4>you're drawing you to the nail. And then you apply

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<v Speaker 4>those attributes to the person who also has the now color.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>Ah? I mean, I will say, if you're thirty now,

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<v Speaker 1>your mom probably did wear the red now.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure.

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<v Speaker 3>My mum was a red now polish person. But I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not thirty. I wouldn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, true twenty four. I mean I kind of see it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that red nails would turn straight men off.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh please pray tell.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's kind of in that like. I also think

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<v Speaker 1>red lipstick turns men off.

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<v Speaker 4>We've got two men in the in the room. We've

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<v Speaker 4>got two men in the room. Let's ask them, Josh,

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<v Speaker 4>red nails, yes or no? Wow, give us some thinking.

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<v Speaker 4>Josh says indifference. That's one man down. We've got another one.

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<v Speaker 1>Will he's into red, he's into red nails.

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<v Speaker 3>We're getting an aggressive thumbs up.

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<v Speaker 1>Does your wife wear red nails? Yep, yep, the wife

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<v Speaker 1>wears red nails? What about red lipstick?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a little bit more indifferent, but we'll take it.

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<v Speaker 4>We've actually managed to find a third man, which is

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<v Speaker 4>just it's a lot of representation for us.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you feel about red nails? Louis Hi all the.

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<v Speaker 1>Way up and red lipstick? Whoa a man wants some

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<v Speaker 1>red lips?

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<v Speaker 4>Love data flex and froom census. I see you thought

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<v Speaker 4>you knew something for a second. How dare you speak

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<v Speaker 4>about about men in the room? Wow, I need more

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<v Speaker 4>questions to ask them.

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<v Speaker 3>That was so fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll do it. We'll do it again next time.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for that. This is flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 4>You know me. For me, you're like data and I

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<v Speaker 4>like star signs when they come together. It's one of

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<v Speaker 4>my main interests. We've also figured out, like, which star

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<v Speaker 4>sign is most likely to be a billionaire. Maurice knows Taurus.

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<v Speaker 4>It definitely wasn't a Sagittarius, that's for sure, a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of Sagittarius shade. I was doing some more research and

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, what's the most rare star sign? Because

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<v Speaker 4>I have an individuality complex and I would like to

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<v Speaker 4>know that if I fit into a cricteria, I could

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<v Speaker 4>share the information with you.

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<v Speaker 3>But unfortunately, the most rare star sign is Virgo. No,

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<v Speaker 3>why do you guess that?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I just never really hear of virgos.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I only know like two.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right? What is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Aquarius?

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<v Speaker 4>February born people? It makes sense that Holy Year twenty

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<v Speaker 4>eight days situation. And what's really wild is that stereotypically

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<v Speaker 4>Aquariuses have individuality complexes and want to be perceived as

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<v Speaker 4>unique and rare, so this suits them.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so happy Aquarius Aquaria.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think of mermaids.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean they're an air sign, so the aqua

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<v Speaker 4>will throw you off. Yeah, okay, And what are you

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<v Speaker 4>your aries in Aris with Aquarius? Well, I was in

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<v Speaker 4>pre Aquarius. You know, I was meant to be born

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<v Speaker 4>on my dad's birthday, which is February twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>It would suit you. I was seven days late, damn.

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<v Speaker 1>Because individuality, it's individuality complex. I was born on the

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<v Speaker 1>third or the third. You're so different, and I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>lucky little binch.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh hello, Binch.

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<v Speaker 1>Just in the studio now. So if you're a big

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<v Speaker 1>listener of the show, you know we have a ghost,

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<v Speaker 1>a poltergeist like creature among us what we record, and

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<v Speaker 1>the little decorative blossoms behind flex have just fell dramatically.

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<v Speaker 1>She looked around, kind of only haunts me though, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's because I'm one of them. They don't follow with me.

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<v Speaker 4>See how can the ghost denier, the spooky denier claim

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<v Speaker 4>that she's one of the polter guys. One day we'll

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<v Speaker 4>know the real story about rooms. Because she's mentioned before

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<v Speaker 4>that she doesn't believe in esoteric things, but her family

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<v Speaker 4>does regular seances. So I'm a bit confused, but we

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<v Speaker 4>won't dig into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're listening to flex and frooms on KEDA.

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<v Speaker 4>Flex frooms and the moral dilemmas that do not stop.

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<v Speaker 4>If you ever found yourself in an experience where you

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<v Speaker 4>need to know, if you're at fault and you don't

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<v Speaker 4>have any reliable friends, you can call out or call

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<v Speaker 4>in on phone us and by phone I mean just DMUs.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll send us an email and we'll decide for you.

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<v Speaker 1>This one is a really good one. It's a Sydney

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<v Speaker 1>based and my varshole which you know me and my

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<v Speaker 1>location based baddie. I love location stories and this is

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<v Speaker 1>question for dog owners. Am I in the wrong here? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>get straight to it. To preface this post, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a dog owner. I'm a cat person, but I do

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<v Speaker 1>love dog dogs and I have had many great interactions

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<v Speaker 1>with dog and dog owners. I had a small run

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<v Speaker 1>in with a dog owner and wanted to get some

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<v Speaker 1>opinions on whether they or I were in the wrong here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday afternoon, my partner I were taking engagement photos in

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<v Speaker 1>Centennial Park Slay this time. This part of the park

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<v Speaker 1>is an off lead area and though we were generally

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<v Speaker 1>in the bushy part of the park. We saw many

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<v Speaker 1>people walking their dogs past us, ride bikes, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>No issues. They probably saw me rollerbating because I was

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<v Speaker 1>there this week. At one point in the shoot, a

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<v Speaker 1>staffy bolts into our photographer, nearly knocking her over, tries

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<v Speaker 1>to jump onto my partner, fortunately missing as she was

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<v Speaker 1>in a white dress, and then jumps onto me, leaving

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<v Speaker 1>a big dirty smudge on my shirt again somewhat Fortunately

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't really see it on the navy the dog

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<v Speaker 1>as he's jumping around for good ten seconds while I'm

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<v Speaker 1>yelling at to the owner, who turns out to be

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<v Speaker 1>a gentleman a good fifty to sixty meters away, not

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention to what is happening. He calls his dog

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<v Speaker 1>in and waves an apology before yelling, you know you're

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<v Speaker 1>in a dog park right now. Actually, you have no

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<v Speaker 1>problem with being approached by a dog. Indeed, a staffy

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<v Speaker 1>was clearly super friendly, and on another day I might

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<v Speaker 1>have given it a pat. My issue more is that

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<v Speaker 1>the dog owner was clearly not paying attention to his

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<v Speaker 1>dog and would barge into a group of people and

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<v Speaker 1>started jumping on them. Therefore, the park is not a

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<v Speaker 1>dog park. It is a public park with an off

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<v Speaker 1>lead area, and the park guardlines specify that dogs should

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<v Speaker 1>be under effective control while of lead. Finally, we must

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<v Speaker 1>have seen at least one hundred other dogs that day

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<v Speaker 1>off leads, none of which gave us an issue like this,

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<v Speaker 1>And the photographer noted that in all the years she'd

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<v Speaker 1>been photographing there, nothing like.

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<v Speaker 3>That headed photographing.

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<v Speaker 1>In any case, our interaction ended there, but I was

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<v Speaker 1>looking for opinions on whether my ire at this particular

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<v Speaker 1>dog owner was warranted, or whether or not we should

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<v Speaker 1>be he should be more attentive in this off lead area.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you write this.

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<v Speaker 2>This?

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<v Speaker 3>Mas is a descendant of the French family, my ancestors.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't mean to laugh at people's misfortunes, but I've

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<v Speaker 4>said it a thousand times before. If you're trying to

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<v Speaker 4>do private stuff in a public area, you risk what

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<v Speaker 4>you risk, right. I can't imagine in any world someone

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<v Speaker 4>wanting to take bridal photos in a dog park and

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<v Speaker 4>then feeling some kind of way that a dog came

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<v Speaker 4>up to them.

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<v Speaker 3>Babe, you're in their space, get out of here, and

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<v Speaker 3>then to bring.

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<v Speaker 4>Up the park guidelines or the park guidelines say that

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<v Speaker 4>you have to keep an eye on your dog. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>and this is my thing, right, I understand that they

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<v Speaker 4>understand that they're in the wrong, but then trying to

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<v Speaker 4>paint this picture around it.

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<v Speaker 3>But like, no, there were other dogs in the area,

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<v Speaker 3>and the other dogs didn't do this. This is the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>If you want privacy in public spaces, you gotta pay

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<v Speaker 4>a fee, get some security, get some get some helpful friends,

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<v Speaker 4>make it do what it does. You were cutting corners

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<v Speaker 4>and now look, get a little stuff here running up.

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<v Speaker 4>No part of me thinks that the stuffy or the

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<v Speaker 4>stuff he's owner should be blamed. Sorry, not even a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, as a personal person that doesn't like dogs, reform.

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<v Speaker 1>I said it once, I've said it again. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>back into my disliking dog ear. Just oh, just one

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<v Speaker 1>week ago, I decided I can't have a Chihuahua. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't deal with picking up dog shit. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't deal with having an animal that like.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're ready for motherhood, you say, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That's different. That's different. That's like a long term like

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<v Speaker 1>a dog is always a dog, you know, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have many other attributes that a non dog.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, Oh, but a baby grows up, a baby grows up.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, line shade, line shade. I'm in favor of the

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<v Speaker 1>wedding people. I don't believe in dogs being off leashes

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<v Speaker 1>in an area where there are children or bikes. Too

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<v Speaker 1>many times in Centennial have I seen or heard of stories,

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you haven't been to Centennial Park, it's this

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<v Speaker 1>massive park in Sydney with a ring around it which

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<v Speaker 1>is like a ring road with people on bikes, roller

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<v Speaker 1>blades and cars. Sometimes people get their dogs off leashes

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<v Speaker 1>and dogs who run in front of bikes, bikeners get injured,

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<v Speaker 1>dogs get killed. This is a regular current since Centennial

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<v Speaker 1>Park and therefore I believe it should be a leash

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<v Speaker 1>only area. I believe dogs should only be a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fleecies if they're in a fenced area.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I feel like you're missing the point though,

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<v Speaker 4>Like if if I was taking bridle pictures in an

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<v Speaker 4>area for bridle pictures and a dog came up, I'd

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<v Speaker 4>be pissed off. But you're going to a dog park

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<v Speaker 4>where you know off lead dogs will be and getting

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<v Speaker 4>surprised and an a offley dog came up to you,

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<v Speaker 4>It just feels nonsensical. It just feels like if you

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<v Speaker 4>really cared so much about your photos, you would go

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<v Speaker 4>somewhere where you're like, you know what, the margin of

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<v Speaker 4>error is so slim because we've taken precautions.

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<v Speaker 3>And again, you're in a public area, Like anything could have.

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<v Speaker 4>Happened, right, A little kid could have come up to you,

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<v Speaker 4>a bird could have shout on you, and then what

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna be like calling Peter being like a wanna

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<v Speaker 4>bullish or birds or whatever. I just feel like, and

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<v Speaker 4>maybe it's my thing about public areas, but I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like we have so many services available for people who

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<v Speaker 4>are particular about what they want to do in spaces. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>if you know what you're after, go to a place

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<v Speaker 4>suitable for what you're after, as opposed to now orienting

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<v Speaker 4>everyone to make your life easier because you want the

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<v Speaker 4>benefit of having this like amazing experience in a public area,

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<v Speaker 4>people are just trying to walk their dogs. Go have

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<v Speaker 4>your bridal party photos elsewhere, Like go to.

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<v Speaker 1>A green screen, get the photographer to take some pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of Centennial.

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<v Speaker 3>Go to the botanic gardens.

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<v Speaker 4>You know there's a bunch of leafy areas that no

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<v Speaker 4>four legged creatures are going to jump on you at

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<v Speaker 4>it feels really simple to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. There's something about like.

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<v Speaker 1>What is that?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, Murphy's law, whatever can go wrong will go wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>And then we also have Ockham's razor. The simplest answer

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<v Speaker 4>is usually the best answer. So if you want to

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<v Speaker 4>take a photo in a place where damage is unlikely

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<v Speaker 4>to happen, go to a place where damage is unlikely

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<v Speaker 4>to happen. Sorry to this person, I know you want

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<v Speaker 4>to support, but I just don't see it for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, all I'm gonna say is Staffi's are to be feared,

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<v Speaker 1>Yes or no. We'll come to that to another break.

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<v Speaker 1>But Staffy's pit bulls bulldogs, not from APAM.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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