1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Now, Darwin's housing market is reportedly heating up, with house 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: prices now at their highest level in nearly a decade. 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Domain's latest house price report shows that Darwin's house prices 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: rose five point three percent in the September quarter. That 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: is up more than thirty three thousand dollars, bringing the 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: median to nearly six hundred and fifty seven thousand. It 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: is part of a national trend. Now joining us on 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: the line to talk more about this is DOMAIN senior 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: economist doctor Joel Bowman. Good morning to you. 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 2: Joel, good morning, thank you for having me. 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, lovely to have you on the show. Joel tell us, 12 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: we'll talk us through the numbers. First off, the house 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: price increases and then the units. 14 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, So in terms of the house prices, as you 15 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: mentioned for Darwin, upper staggering five point three percent in 16 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: the September quarter alone to each six hundred and fifty 17 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: seven thousand, So that's the highest level in over a decade. 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: So house price is now just three percent below the 19 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: twenty thirteen peak. And for unit prices they jump even stronger, 20 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: so six point five percent in the September quarter to 21 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: reach a median of three hundred and eighty nine thousand dollars, 22 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: so that's upper saggering twelve percent over the year, but 23 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: that still remains about twenty percent below it's twenty and 24 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: sixteen peak. 25 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: What's behind the momentum in the top ends market at 26 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: the moment. 27 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: Look, I think overall, if we have seen a big 28 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: pickup in momentum across Australia's capital cities, so across house 29 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: prices across Australia's combined capital cities are rising at the 30 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 2: fastest pace in nearly four years. With the last quarter 31 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 2: nearly every capital city saw price gains for both houses 32 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: and units except for the unit market in Canberra. So 33 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: I think overall what's supporting that big pickup in momentum 34 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: is the three RBA interest rate cuts this year and 35 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: prospects of more to come, rising consumer confidence, low levels 36 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: of supply are all driving house in unit price across Australia. 37 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: Some of those factors are a little bit even even 38 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: stronger in the Darwin market. So particularly on the supply front, 39 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 2: listings are down and staggering thirty percent compared to the 40 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: same time last year, so there's just not a lot 41 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 2: of supply out there. There's more buyers that are becoming 42 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 2: more active, and so all of that is resulting in 43 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 2: pretty strong price growth. 44 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: So down thirty percent that supply. Is that just for 45 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: Darwin or is that sort of in other more regional 46 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: parts as well, or do you just look at it 47 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: more from the territory perspective, So that. 48 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: Is that that is just for Darwin alone, for just 49 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: comparing so the month of September listings are down about 50 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 2: thirty percent compared to the same time last year. So 51 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: there's not a lot of supply at the moment. No. 52 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're an avid real estate watcher, and 53 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: I do like to look on real estate dot Com, 54 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: I'm not ashamed to say to have a good look 55 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 1: at what's around, but there is not a lot for sale, 56 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: particularly sort of standalone houses. And then when you look 57 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: at those prices as as you've said, and as the 58 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 1: figures show, they're definitely on the rise. Yeah. 59 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely, So it is challenging for you know, you know, 60 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: home buyers that are looking to get their foot on 61 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: the ladder. Is very challenging, and it's also challenging for 62 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: renters as well, and I think that's that's being a 63 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: big draw card as well for potentially investors in the 64 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: Darwin markets. So the vacancy rates still remain very low, 65 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: and I think overall, the yields, which means that ren's 66 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 2: relative to home prices is quite attractive in Darwin relative 67 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: to some of the other kind of capital cities. So 68 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: I think that's potentially drawing in more more interstate investors. 69 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that was going to be my next question. 70 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: Do you reckon we are seeing people from interstate wanting 71 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: to snap up property here in the NT. 72 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's certainly hard to get good timely 73 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: reads on it, but I wouldn't be surprised. So if 74 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: we're looking at just those those yields alone, so again 75 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: that just is your rent's relative to your home prices. 76 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: It's about six percent in for houses seven point eight 77 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: percent in Darwin, and that's really high compared to what 78 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: you get in the combined capitals where it typically is 79 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: sits closer to that three and five percent level, respectively. 80 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: So if you know, for investors looking for a more 81 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: kind of cash flow, Darwin looks very attractive relative to 82 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: other cities. 83 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: And so then when you look at those unit prices 84 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: rising sort of even faster than the houses at the moment. 85 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: Are we seeing a shift in buyer behavior with those 86 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: affordability pressures as well? 87 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so we're definitely seeing that in some other 88 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 2: pockets as well as such as Brisbane. So we're seeing 89 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 2: stronger price gains in a unit market compared to the 90 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: compared to the home price market. So, as you mentioned, 91 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: affordability constraints are becoming a lot more pressing and I 92 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 2: think that's increasingly kind of shifting buyers to the more 93 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 2: affordable properties, which tend to be you know, more of 94 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: the units supplies not picking up in a material way, 95 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 2: and so that's resulting in yeah, more more competition essentially 96 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 2: for the more affordable properties, and I think units are 97 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: benefiting from that. 98 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Joel, I know this is probably a tough question 99 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: to answer. You don't have a crystal ball, but are 100 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: we expecting Darwin's growth to continue in twenty twenty six 101 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: or do we think that there is going to be 102 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: a bit of a slow down on the horizon. 103 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 2: Look, I mean that's a good one. So I think 104 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: in terms of the sharp rises that we've seen in 105 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 2: September quarter alone, I think it's going to be really 106 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: hard to sustain that. But I think Overall, some of 107 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: those drivers of those strong price price games over the 108 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: last year, I think they're likely to be sustained over 109 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: the next year or so. So, as I mentioned with 110 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: interest rate cuts, there's prospects of more to come, rising 111 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 2: consumer confidence and that low levels of supply. In addition 112 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 2: to that, you've also got the expansion of some of 113 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: the first home first home buyers schemes, particularly the home 114 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: guarantee scheme, so people can get in with a five 115 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: percent deposit without needing to pay for that expensive lender's 116 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: mortgage insurance. So I think all of that will result 117 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: in more first time buyers potentially going through open home. 118 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 2: So big increase in first time buyers. Supply is not 119 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: going to pick up in a big way in the 120 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: near term, and so I think that will add to 121 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: some of the price pressures over the next year or so. 122 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've had a lot of discussion as well on 123 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: this show over recent weeks about the first home buyers 124 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: because for us here in the NT that cap is 125 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: at six hundred thousand. But now you know, we've got 126 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: the median house price at the moment, as your figures 127 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: have shown at six hundred and fifty seven and then 128 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: we're talking about you know, those supplies, like the supply 129 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: being quite low, it will make it difficult, you would 130 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: suspect for first time buyers to be able to access 131 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: that scheme or to enter the market. The way that 132 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: things are tracking. 133 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 2: Look sir, that's definitely that the meeting, and I think 134 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: in terms of having that threshold slightly below the meeting 135 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: is something that we typically see in a lot of 136 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 2: the other other cities as well. So I think, thank 137 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: you're still by lunch, is still a good proportion of 138 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: properties that people can still get in under that price cap, 139 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: particularly and in the unit market as well, So I 140 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: suspect that there will be a lot of competition for 141 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: properties under those price cap. 142 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Well, Domain Senior Economists, Doctor Joel Bowman, 143 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: I was about to call you, Darwin Senior Economists, Domain 144 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: Senior Economist, Joel lovely to speak to you this morning, mate, 145 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time. 146 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. Thank you