WEBVTT - From labias to letter drops

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<v Speaker 1>Lifelun cut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country. We pay

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<v Speaker 1>our respects to their elders past and present.

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<v Speaker 2>Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was

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<v Speaker 2>recorded on d rug Wallamuta Land. Hi guys, and welcome

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<v Speaker 2>back to another episode of Live on Card.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Laura, I'm Britney. Happy Tuesday. Yeah, why don't you

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<v Speaker 3>tell everyone what you just said into the microphone? It's

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<v Speaker 3>pretty crude And I said that.

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<v Speaker 2>To you in a trusting environment? Off my is anything trusting?

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<v Speaker 2>Is anything like?

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<v Speaker 3>What is?

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<v Speaker 2>Do? We have a safe environment. I feel like everything

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<v Speaker 2>we do it's all for content. It all just makes

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<v Speaker 2>its way onto the podcast eventually.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know one thing I have realized is what

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<v Speaker 1>usually like with your best friends? Because I don't see

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<v Speaker 1>anyone more than you two, Like you know, you're my

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<v Speaker 1>inner circle.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, this is true.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I say you two, I forget that people

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<v Speaker 1>can't see producer case you're sitting here. I don't see

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<v Speaker 1>anyone more than producer show and Laura, right, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think your class those people. And you're in a circle

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<v Speaker 1>as your best friends, and as your best friends, you

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<v Speaker 1>classify those people. It's the people you trust with information

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<v Speaker 1>and that you like to go to Yeah, I trust you.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a pretty precarious position to be in when

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know what is ever going to be used

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<v Speaker 1>against you with your best friends.

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<v Speaker 2>You should know by now after four and a half years,

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<v Speaker 2>that that is everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's what I said that was confronting.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's the two things I said together. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>so I killed a bird, and I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm horny. I could suck a dick.

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<v Speaker 3>Ha ha.

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<v Speaker 2>That all needs context now because with that, even you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, there was a big conversation that unfolded around

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<v Speaker 2>that because I was like, was it an eagle or

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<v Speaker 2>was it a sparrow?

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<v Speaker 3>Because people are going to feel differently about that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Okay, look, I said, guys, it is very I

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<v Speaker 1>had a very traumatic weekend traumatic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it was traumatic traumatic. It was traumatic traumatic traumatic traumatic.

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<v Speaker 3>What am I saying? Traumatic trauma?

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<v Speaker 2>So it's traumamatic Okay. I went up to Port mcquarie

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<v Speaker 2>see my family. Five hour drive beautiful, lovely love that

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<v Speaker 2>for me, and.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just highway.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the most boring drive, Like it's five hours basically straight.

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<v Speaker 1>You get out of Sydney and straight. You don't make

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<v Speaker 1>a turn until you get there anyway. You know how

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes the birds fly to eat food off the road,

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<v Speaker 1>like roadkill and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And they always jump out.

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<v Speaker 1>They feel the vibrations, they hear the car coming, they

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<v Speaker 1>always jump out of the way. Well, this one bird,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't have good reflex skills and he wasn't very agile,

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<v Speaker 1>and he flew down and I was fanging it like

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and ten and he didn't move, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I just went cook and he went straight into the

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<v Speaker 1>grill of my car. And it was you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're driving and you're you know when you want it

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<v Speaker 1>because it's unsafe to swerve. You never swerve, like that's

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<v Speaker 1>the number one rule on the road is because you'd

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<v Speaker 1>end up having an accent.

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<v Speaker 3>So you just unfortunately have especially when you're go on

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<v Speaker 3>that s feed.

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<v Speaker 2>I just really, really really want to clarify because I

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<v Speaker 2>know some people will be listening to this being like

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<v Speaker 2>you can't laugh about this.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>It was horrified. I'm still reeling from it. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>am not laughing. I am not laughing thing about a

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<v Speaker 2>bird dying, because if I was in that situation, I

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<v Speaker 2>would be traumatized.

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<v Speaker 3>I would be crying traumatiz it'd be traumatic.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm more laughing at the way in which you're

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<v Speaker 2>telling the story.

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<v Speaker 3>I just can you just tell me?

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<v Speaker 2>It needs to be a bird that's not a majestic

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<v Speaker 2>animal needs to be like does.

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<v Speaker 3>It matter, it's still an animal.

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<v Speaker 2>It needs to be like a minor bird or something

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<v Speaker 2>one that's a pest. It needs to be one that like,

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<v Speaker 2>we can't you know, it can't be lori key.

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<v Speaker 3>All animals are created equal. You say that as you

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<v Speaker 3>eat your bacon sandwich. I don't like bacon. Actually, it

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<v Speaker 3>was a beauty. It's a beautiful bird. It was a magpie.

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<v Speaker 3>I care no magpies. A beautiful bird. You know how

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<v Speaker 3>intelligent magpies are. They are so highly intelligent. They're also natives.

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<v Speaker 3>They do take out. Yeah, they will swoop you.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, okay, but do you know what actually, while

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<v Speaker 1>we're we're here on the bird transitioning, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>love animals.

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<v Speaker 3>I love animal facts.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what you're supposed to do? If a

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<v Speaker 1>magpie comes for you, sweeps for you, you don't hit

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<v Speaker 1>it with your car one hundred and ten colums an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not supposed to run. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you know that you never turn you back on a magpie.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when they keep swooping.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently, No, they won't come for your eyes if you're

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<v Speaker 3>looking at them.

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<v Speaker 1>Keeha. You don't run from a magpie because when you

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<v Speaker 1>turn your back on it, that's when it keeps coming

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<v Speaker 1>from you.

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<v Speaker 3>So you shouldn't turn around and run. Shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>This makes sense because that's why they always chase cyclists

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<v Speaker 2>and chase cyclists down. And I mean it looks funny,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not funny for the cyclist.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you're supposed to turn around and stare that and

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<v Speaker 1>no eye staring. It won't come for your face, it

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<v Speaker 1>will not. Okay, don't quote me on this in case

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<v Speaker 1>anything happens. We don't have enough assurance. But like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I have read, that you're not supposed to turn

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<v Speaker 1>you back on it like a bear as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Please stop taking advice over me, Okay, I have some

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<v Speaker 2>updates on my own before we get into stuff is

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<v Speaker 2>really important. You know this thing on my arm, this

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<v Speaker 2>thing that I've had for ages now so no one

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<v Speaker 2>else can see. It's like a slightly browner patch on

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<v Speaker 2>Laura's arm that she's had for the while. It's been

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<v Speaker 2>here for ages, Like it's literally been here for years.

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<v Speaker 2>It goes it's whenever I'm in thing, Yeah, whenever I

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<v Speaker 2>get darker, this patch on my arm gets darker. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and being that at summertime, like it's been pretty dark

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<v Speaker 2>at the moment, but this is like being here for years.

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<v Speaker 2>The last couple of months, I would say, it's gotten bigger.

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<v Speaker 2>And so recently I went to the doctor and the

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<v Speaker 2>doctor like told me, he gave me some thing to

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<v Speaker 2>try on. It didn't work. Didn't work. So now I've

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<v Speaker 2>gone back there after the three weeks and I've gone

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<v Speaker 2>back with the thing on my arm, and I'm like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>the thing you gave me didn't work.

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<v Speaker 3>What do we think this is? Because it's not working? Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you want to know what I have on my arm? Fungus.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a fungal infectious. Oh yeah, it's a fungus.

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<v Speaker 4>Why didn't you It's.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, hey, you never tell me I've got something on

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<v Speaker 3>my face.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got like a fucking shittaki mushroom growing out of

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<v Speaker 2>my arm, and no one told me it's a common fungus.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nothing to be scared about you haven't got some

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<v Speaker 1>disease from the Amazon jungle.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a common skin fungi. Thank you, it's just brittany. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't catch it, just so you know. So, like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want anyone here worried that I'm like rubber

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<v Speaker 2>myself up on chairs or whatever. But like there's nothing

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<v Speaker 2>more humbling than walking into a doctor's office thinking you

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<v Speaker 2>have a pigmentation problem and being told you've got a fungus.

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<v Speaker 3>But it is a pigmentation problem caused by a fungus.

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<v Speaker 1>So the the reason I know is I also had

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<v Speaker 1>a fungus one time, but I have the opposite fungus.

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<v Speaker 2>So have you seen the white patches? No, No, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what this is. But it reacts differently for people. So

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<v Speaker 2>you get a tanned fungus.

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<v Speaker 3>So I have tans.

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<v Speaker 2>Mine's like an albino fucker. So it's called tinia versa cola.

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<v Speaker 2>It's basically like having athletes foot on your arm. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what I have right now. And I just want to say,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're out there dealing with a fungus, me too.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what, I remember that episode of Seinfeld

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<v Speaker 2>when this is a rogue tangent. Seinfeld went into the

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<v Speaker 2>medicine cabinet of a girl that he was dating and

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<v Speaker 2>she had a fungal cream in there, and he was

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<v Speaker 2>like ill, and he broke up with her because she

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<v Speaker 2>had a fungal cream and it ended up being the

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<v Speaker 2>dog's fungal cream and it wasn't even hers anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Guess what, Laura Burn has a fungus on her arm?

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<v Speaker 3>Did they tell Hugh Jerry Seinfeld? Did they tell you

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<v Speaker 3>what to do? Because I can tell you what works

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<v Speaker 3>to cure that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, apparently, because it's been there for so long, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a much more in depth treatment. Don't fucking come at

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<v Speaker 2>me with your dander shampoo. That's what I have used.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had that fungus multiple times. Mine comes from the sun.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time you get too much time in the sun,

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<v Speaker 2>it can rebring the fungal memories up from the skin gland.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, but anti dandre if anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Because this is what you have, so to make yourself

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<v Speaker 1>feel better, Laura, Lots of people have that fungus and

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<v Speaker 1>there are people going to be listening right now being like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I.

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<v Speaker 3>Have tiny versa collar. So basically, if you don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's this like patch on your upper body, on your

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<v Speaker 2>arms or on your torso where the skin changes color.

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<v Speaker 2>So you might get like a patch of white or

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<v Speaker 2>you get a patch of brown.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what it is. But mine has just like taken

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<v Speaker 3>over my arm on my back now. So you get the.

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<v Speaker 1>Anti dander of shampoo. This is doctor prescribed. This is

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<v Speaker 1>not something from TikTok.

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<v Speaker 3>You get that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just anti dander of shampoo and you rub it

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<v Speaker 1>onto your arms, leave it on there for ten twenty

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<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes. So I used to live it on for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of hours and then just wash it off.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the treatment. And most of the time, after

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<v Speaker 1>a while you have to be consistent, but your fungus

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<v Speaker 1>will disappear. My fungus hasn't been here for years. Can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait to keep you updated. It's really nice. I love

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<v Speaker 1>these Tuesday episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>How we get to catch you up on all the

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<v Speaker 2>important things that are happening in our lives. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for me right now, it's fungus. Actually, do you know

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<v Speaker 2>what else happened in my life over the weekend? Please

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<v Speaker 2>don't tell me it's some other kind of rash or

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<v Speaker 2>what else.

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<v Speaker 3>Happened. What other fun are you, rash, I have jockeage.

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<v Speaker 2>So if I didn't fee humbled enough over the weekend

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<v Speaker 2>by finding out that I have a fungus all over

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<v Speaker 2>my body, Mali, Really, I mean, kids are so good

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<v Speaker 2>at just like bringing you back down to earth. Like

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<v Speaker 2>if you ever felt good about yourself, they have a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>speak to your four year old and ask them to

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<v Speaker 2>critique anything about you.

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<v Speaker 3>Not a critique, it just say look at me, what

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<v Speaker 3>do you see? What do you see? Just talk to

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<v Speaker 3>me about what you see on me? Oh, my body.

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<v Speaker 2>Recently, if you were listening to a Tuesday episode from

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks ago, Keisha and I were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about cosmetic injections, cosmetic surgeries, and I was saying that

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<v Speaker 2>I have not had anything now, like I'm going into

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<v Speaker 2>my eleventh month of this year without having any botox

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<v Speaker 2>anything done to my face out of pure laziness. Can

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<v Speaker 2>I just add one thing, Yeah, that is really weird

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<v Speaker 2>to me because your skin looks better than ever. I

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<v Speaker 2>can honestly say that that's so nice. I needed that

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a confidence boost. Wow.

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<v Speaker 5>Keisha's kis's very excitedly trying to get off the mic.

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<v Speaker 4>How can you possibly say your skin looks better than ever?

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<v Speaker 3>It's yeah, from the chin.

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<v Speaker 6>I know you've been asking about my skin everytine, so

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<v Speaker 6>I just wanted to go through it with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Use this. It is for jockage. Okay, let me rephrase that.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me rephrase that. It's funny you feel like that, Laura,

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<v Speaker 3>because from the neck up, your skin looks amazing. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So what happened was I was laying in bed with

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<v Speaker 2>Marley and we were having this cute little cuddle and

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<v Speaker 2>like every sort from kids, you're laying in bed with

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<v Speaker 2>them and they're like hold your face and you have

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<v Speaker 2>these really beautiful moments where you're like, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>it's just this kind of intimacy that it's quite hard

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<v Speaker 2>to describe because it's like this, it's almost like a

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<v Speaker 2>romantic intimacy without any romance. Like they'll hold your face

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<v Speaker 2>and they'll look in your eyes, and like you have

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<v Speaker 2>these beautiful little moments of like soul connection with a

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<v Speaker 2>human like you love more than anything.

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<v Speaker 3>And I feel similarly with Delilah, you would understand that

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<v Speaker 3>exact feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>And so like this deep moment of connection with Marley

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<v Speaker 2>where she was like stroking my face and she was

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<v Speaker 2>like looking into my eyes and I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>was having a moment.

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<v Speaker 3>She clearly wasn't. And she said to me, Mummy.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, yes, sweet and she goes, your skin is

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<v Speaker 2>really ugly and I said, thank you, darling.

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<v Speaker 3>Why do you say that?

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<v Speaker 2>And she said, you just have so many red bits

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<v Speaker 2>on it, like there is red and there is red

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<v Speaker 2>and there is red.

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<v Speaker 3>Gone in the morning with no makeup on, laying in bed.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, okay, that, sweetheart. You know this,

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes when you.

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<v Speaker 2>See things about people, you don't have to tell them

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<v Speaker 2>because it hurts their feelings. So when you tell me

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<v Speaker 2>that you notice that my skin is red, that that

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<v Speaker 2>hurts my feelings.

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<v Speaker 3>Mummy has an uneven skin tone.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, you don't have to tell people the

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<v Speaker 2>things that you see about them that you don't like,

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<v Speaker 2>and she said, yeah, but even if I don't tell you,

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<v Speaker 2>it's still the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, got it, bitch. That's so brutal. It was so brutal.

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<v Speaker 3>This was also for me.

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<v Speaker 2>This was the reminder and it really took me back

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<v Speaker 2>to those moments in my relationships, like my ex relationships,

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<v Speaker 2>where you're laying in bed next to someone and you're thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, we're so connected, like I love him,

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna say I love you, And you think you

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<v Speaker 2>know what they're thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>You fucking don't know what they're thinking. They're looking at

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<v Speaker 3>your face thinking you've got red splotches. That's what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>So they are not sometimes sometimes Yeah, if they're not assholes,

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<v Speaker 2>if they're not saying I love you back in that moment,

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<v Speaker 2>and you think you're having a soul connection, trust me,

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<v Speaker 2>that is not what is happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's too close to home for some people in

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<v Speaker 3>the room. Keisha, Have we told toblerone that we love

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<v Speaker 3>him yet?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 7>It is getting it's getting more interesting as the days

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<v Speaker 7>go on.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he'll ever say it now. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you've gone too far, Like, you can't ever say it now.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel similarly. Do you know what's the worst moments?

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<v Speaker 7>Actually, and this has stuck out to me, it's when

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<v Speaker 7>I've had Delilah like I borrowed her the other weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that. I say I borrowed her. I took

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<v Speaker 3>her for two days. You took her and didn't return her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, So she jumps into bed and she loves a cuddle.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll be like cuddling her and she'll be next to him.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'll be like, I love you, I love you.

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<v Speaker 7>You are such a pretty girl, and tell Delilah seventeen

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<v Speaker 7>times how much I love her.

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<v Speaker 3>And then it's just maybe that's when you need to

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<v Speaker 3>tail it. Maybe you need to look up then and

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<v Speaker 3>lock eyes and have a moment and then.

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<v Speaker 1>Will him to say it. Make that silence so awkward

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<v Speaker 1>that he has to say it.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to like for anyone who doesn't know

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening right now, because they might be confused.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you're new to the podcast and you don't know

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<v Speaker 3>the backstory.

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<v Speaker 2>Producer Keisha, she has been dating tolerone for probably seven

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<v Speaker 2>months star maybe eight months, very seriously, seriously, they're moving

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<v Speaker 2>in together.

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<v Speaker 3>The guy's like that shit happening.

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<v Speaker 2>The relationship is progressing in a way that one would

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<v Speaker 2>think the I love yous are coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you'd think the I love yous would have happened

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<v Speaker 1>for these conversations to have happened.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've spoken about this a couple of times, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm enjoying the constant updates because one day we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about this and you're going to say I

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<v Speaker 2>said it or not. Maybe this will just be the

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<v Speaker 2>constant update forever. My only question is does Toblery never

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<v Speaker 2>listen to this?

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<v Speaker 3>No? No, he never listens to the podcast. Okay, we

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<v Speaker 3>won't be offended.

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<v Speaker 2>We love having a supportive partners.

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<v Speaker 3>The opposite, I'm like, I don't want you to be

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<v Speaker 3>turned off.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't want you to hear things that you're like

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<v Speaker 7>that's not it attractive to me, which I feel like

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<v Speaker 7>would happen if any of our partners listened to this podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>You know it's fair.

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<v Speaker 2>Because Matt doesn't listen either, which is why I get

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<v Speaker 2>away with telling so many of the things that happen

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<v Speaker 2>our relationship because I'll give him the brief overview.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll say like, oh, honey.

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<v Speaker 2>I talked about this on the podcast, but I tell

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<v Speaker 2>like versions of it, and he goes, Okay, that's fine

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<v Speaker 2>because I think that so long as I've told him that,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling the story, but I tell a top line

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<v Speaker 2>version of it. If he actually heard it, he'd probably

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<v Speaker 2>be like a bit much information.

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<v Speaker 3>Laura bit too.

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<v Speaker 1>Hand listens to every episode, every single and the radio show.

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<v Speaker 3>He listens to everything.

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<v Speaker 7>See I feel differently about Matt because I think for

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<v Speaker 7>him that gives him a permission slip to.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk about whatever he wants to talk about on his podcast. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't listen to that either. That's my point.

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<v Speaker 6>I shouldn't feel like, hey, honey, I kind of talked

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<v Speaker 6>about a little bit about this, like maybe it might

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<v Speaker 6>be a bit too much, and he's like, nah, it's

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<v Speaker 6>all good because he's storing it as like a as

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<v Speaker 6>I get out of jail free card if he needs

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<v Speaker 6>to use it.

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<v Speaker 7>So I'm glad that tom la Rone doesn't listen to

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<v Speaker 7>the podcast, but it is getting more weird by the

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<v Speaker 7>day that we haven't told each other that I've never

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<v Speaker 7>thought of myself as a stubborn person before this particular situation.

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<v Speaker 7>I feel like now I'm just not saying it out

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<v Speaker 7>of stubbornness that no, you have to do it first, which.

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<v Speaker 3>I think is silly.

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<v Speaker 1>I think love shouldn't fall into the stubborn category. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that the woman can say they love them first,

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<v Speaker 1>just like I think the women can ask.

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<v Speaker 3>Their partner our man or woman. I think it's fine

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<v Speaker 3>for a woman to take charge and if you know

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<v Speaker 3>you love him.

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<v Speaker 2>Quality, well, No, I just don't see the point in

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<v Speaker 2>like if you want it, like we get such I'm

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<v Speaker 2>getting so deep, we get such limited time on this

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<v Speaker 2>earth and love, but it's true, love is such a

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<v Speaker 2>when you are in love, it is there is no

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<v Speaker 2>feeling like it and like you just the second you

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<v Speaker 2>say it and you express things differently because once it's

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<v Speaker 2>almost like a doorways opened up. But I can guarantee

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<v Speaker 2>the little things will change once you start to say

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<v Speaker 2>you love each other.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think, why waste that time? Well, I think

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<v Speaker 3>now we've waited so long.

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<v Speaker 7>We went on an international holiday two months into being together,

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<v Speaker 7>Like it's not like we slowed down on other things. Now,

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<v Speaker 7>I feel like there's been such a build up that

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<v Speaker 7>it kind of has to be a moment, Like I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know if it can just be sitting on the

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<v Speaker 7>couch patting the dog.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, well, you're not getting married, You're just saying

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<v Speaker 2>I love you. But also I do think you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be laying in bed one day and you're gonna be like,

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<v Speaker 2>I love you, and he's gonna be like, your face

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<v Speaker 2>is red.

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<v Speaker 8>I also get that fungus. Have you got a fungus

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<v Speaker 8>on your arm? Is the husha DARKI mushroomer, you're just

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<v Speaker 8>happy to see me. I'm buying you sam Anti Dandurf

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<v Speaker 8>this afternoon.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>As my final update on my egg freezing saga journey.

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<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't call it a sarga, but I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it's been. It was a week ago. And

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<v Speaker 1>because it takes you longer to get over the hormone injections,

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<v Speaker 1>because I had double right. So some people a few

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<v Speaker 1>days you feel better. Some it lasts for two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>My nurse took call me. She's like, look, it's likely

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna last for two weeks plus because you've just.

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<v Speaker 3>Got so much that you need to get rid of.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you how horny I am and how

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<v Speaker 1>hard my nipples are. Constantly I could cut glass with

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<v Speaker 1>these nipples. Like today, I had to push them in.

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<v Speaker 3>So you could just wear a bra like everyone else. No,

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<v Speaker 3>because you can't wear a bra with this tops. You

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<v Speaker 3>tek a different top, you have a hundred No, why

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<v Speaker 3>would I do that? What's wrong with showing nipples? That

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<v Speaker 3>is been a nippleist to be fake. Kim cut Ashley

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<v Speaker 3>and brought out that nipple and my boobs are great,

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<v Speaker 3>like they don't need a bra in this top.

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<v Speaker 7>You were the one who said that your nipples were

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<v Speaker 7>that hard that you insinuated it was a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm not just telling you it's not a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>But I could cut glass with them. I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, my nipples are so hard, there is no

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<v Speaker 2>problem here. I just wanted to tell you totally.

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<v Speaker 3>This, guys, is not a problem. This is not an

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<v Speaker 3>issue for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I have very erec nipples and I like it, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is the end of the story road. But they

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<v Speaker 2>are so sensitive as well. That was where I was going.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all. That's my update.

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<v Speaker 1>People want to know the physiological side of what happens

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<v Speaker 1>with the egg freezing hormone injections.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the number one thing you guys wanted to know.

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<v Speaker 3>So that is the very last.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully the nipples die down tomorrow and hopefully next week

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<v Speaker 1>it starts that my body starts to regulate.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not a raging horn dog. That's it. That's

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<v Speaker 3>the update, is horny.

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<v Speaker 2>That was great because the bloating's gone down, right, so

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<v Speaker 2>like everything is settled now because it is touch and

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<v Speaker 2>go there for a while, like I'd swallowed a volleyball.

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<v Speaker 2>But the only lasting effects I have now is the

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<v Speaker 2>nipples and the horniness. I feel like the horniness helps

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<v Speaker 2>the fertility though. I mean, it seems like an important factor.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we'll make y'all. I don't know anyway, Well, let's

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<v Speaker 1>not get into the side.

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<v Speaker 7>People do say that you get more horny around your

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<v Speaker 7>ovulation time. Yeah, I've never personally experienced, like, I haven't

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<v Speaker 7>tracked it, so I don't know, But apparently you can

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<v Speaker 7>get more horny around that, like your body just knows

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<v Speaker 7>that you're fertile.

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<v Speaker 3>Laura, you seem like the real first yell one of

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<v Speaker 3>the group. And we all know how horny I am

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<v Speaker 3>all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to get horny, Guys, I was having a

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<v Speaker 2>conversation on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a bit rogue.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got something else I want to talk to you about,

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<v Speaker 2>but this is like, let's just throw it in because

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<v Speaker 2>this could be a bit of a story arc if

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<v Speaker 2>it happens hear me out. This would be the first time,

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<v Speaker 2>this would be the first time that I've talked about this.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know how I feel about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I think that there's going to be some I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there'll be some people who'll be like, it's your body,

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<v Speaker 2>do what you want. But I think, after the conversations

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<v Speaker 2>we've had on the podcast before, that it might come

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<v Speaker 2>with some friction.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I guess?

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<v Speaker 2>I am considering breastleft No, damn it, foot reconstruction.

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<v Speaker 4>I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm not getting botox anymore. But I'm considering

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<v Speaker 2>like a major plastic surgery, no job, No, I'm considering

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<v Speaker 2>getting a laba plasty.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone's just gone silent. Date that if you didn't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know, but I'm I had a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>with mad about it, and I had a conversation with

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<v Speaker 2>a girlfriend about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Haven't had a conversation with the doctor. I've spoken to you.

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<v Speaker 3>We were completely unqualified.

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<v Speaker 2>Things are just not the same after Lola, and not

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<v Speaker 2>in a way where I'm like, oh, esthetically, that's not

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<v Speaker 2>how I want it to be more and it's uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 2>for me now.

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<v Speaker 3>I've had a friend who's had one.

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<v Speaker 7>She found that whenever she would wear tight things like

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<v Speaker 7>exercise tights or even a G string, the friction and

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<v Speaker 7>the rocky the lips.

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<v Speaker 2>It was quite painful for me. And this is too

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<v Speaker 2>much information, But when I had Lola. So I have

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<v Speaker 2>really bad circulation. And I got Varica's veins in the

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<v Speaker 2>backs of my legs when I had Lola. I also

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<v Speaker 2>got Barraka's veins somewhere else. When I was pregnant, which

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<v Speaker 2>happens in my labia, I had a varicus vein.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't even know that was it. I genuinely did

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<v Speaker 3>not know that was a thing. Yeah, it is the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I know that there'll be some pregnant women

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<v Speaker 2>who are like, I've had that too, and there'll be

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<v Speaker 2>other who are like, you fucking poor bitch.

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<v Speaker 3>But trust me, it sucked.

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<v Speaker 2>And so for me, it's like I still have a

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<v Speaker 2>vein on one side, and that's what I want to

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<v Speaker 2>go and get sorted, because that's why if you have

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<v Speaker 2>Arek's veins, you will know like it's itchy, it's uncomfortable,

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<v Speaker 2>the circulation is not good, and so that's affecting me,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why I want to go and start this process.

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<v Speaker 2>All the time, always scrutching myself that in the thrush.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, but I've looked into it and the only

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<v Speaker 2>thing that's like my limiting reason for not doing it

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<v Speaker 2>right now. Actually there's two One is that it's like

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<v Speaker 2>a six week recovery, like you can't you can't have sex,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't do anything for six weeks, which I know.

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<v Speaker 3>As a great excuse, I know, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also a big consideration for your relationship as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I and I don't mean that I am not

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<v Speaker 2>going to do things to my body because it will

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<v Speaker 2>upset Matt by any means. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, that's a big amount of time for a

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<v Speaker 2>consideration when you're in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>To six weeks is people go six.

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<v Speaker 2>Weeks all the time without sex, and I think to

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<v Speaker 2>make yourself more I mean, look at what he look

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<v Speaker 2>at my relationship, I go months without statement if it's

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<v Speaker 2>literal discomfort for you and it's going to completely change

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<v Speaker 2>your life absolutely well. And the other part of this

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<v Speaker 2>is I think that my reservations around one talking about

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<v Speaker 2>it and two going and actually doing anything about it

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<v Speaker 2>is because, as you guys know, we had an interview

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<v Speaker 2>we did it ages ago with Ellie who is from

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<v Speaker 2>Comfortable in My Skin, and we had big conversations around

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<v Speaker 2>like being accepting of all of your body, being accepting

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<v Speaker 2>of your labyer, that it's not abnormal to have an

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<v Speaker 2>audi like all of the very many different ways in

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<v Speaker 2>which people's labyers andvolvers look and how we should be

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<v Speaker 2>able to be okay and accepting of that. And I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to like preface it that this is not

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<v Speaker 2>at all from me being like, this is an aesthetic thing,

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't have an issue. I go, I'm great

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<v Speaker 2>downe there, Matt is not complaining. Everything is fantastic, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm uncomfortable. So I think for me, I'm now looking

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<v Speaker 2>at what that looks like, and I would hate for

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<v Speaker 2>someone to judge me for that.

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<v Speaker 7>Can I just say that really common concern about getting

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<v Speaker 7>laby or plasty is that obviously they're cutting parts where

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<v Speaker 7>you get a lot of pleasure and a lot of sensation.

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<v Speaker 7>And for my particular friend, she had a significant reduction

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<v Speaker 7>in the pleasure that she gets from sex. So not

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<v Speaker 7>trying to sway you in any way. Obviously I'm not

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<v Speaker 7>a doctor. You will have these conversations with your doctor.

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<v Speaker 7>But I think that's an important seesaw to balance when

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<v Speaker 7>you're like, I might be more comfortable, but also I

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<v Speaker 7>might enjoy sex less.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is obviously going to affect your life a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it also depends on how like I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it depends on what your end result is, like, are

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<v Speaker 2>you wanting to have no LaBier like are you doing

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<v Speaker 2>it because you want to look like a Barbie doll?

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<v Speaker 2>Or are you doing it just because you want things

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<v Speaker 2>to be back to the way that you were pre pregnancy.

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<v Speaker 3>For me, I don't want it all gone.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to be at the place that I

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<v Speaker 2>was pre pregnancy where it didn't bother me at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to, like you know where swimwear and not

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm packing sometimes.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that I just want to feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>am not conscious of it, whereas like I am now

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<v Speaker 2>conscious of it and I wasn't five years ago, even

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<v Speaker 2>though I've never been barbied or vagina by any means.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to be at a place where I

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<v Speaker 2>don't ever have to think about it. And that's how

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<v Speaker 2>I feel.

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<v Speaker 7>I had a really humbling moment about this over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 7>I went to Reformer Plates and this particular studio has glass,

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<v Speaker 7>sorry has mirrors on the ceiling.

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<v Speaker 3>I was wearing these burnt orange shorts and I was.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, I have got a literal camel toe because it

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<v Speaker 4>literally looks burnt orange, and it was really you know,

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<v Speaker 4>when your legs are in the straps and you're looking

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<v Speaker 4>up and you're like, oh.

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<v Speaker 3>That's I look like a giant camel. I need to adjust.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the only other thing, Laura, that you'd

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<v Speaker 1>need to consider, and I'm sure you're going to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just nutting it out, but I think the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing you're going to consider is like make sure you're

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<v Speaker 1>completely done with kids, because obviously it's something that could

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<v Speaker 1>reoccur with another pregnancy and all these things that you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to think about and talk about with your doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure, but I'm I am here to hold your hand.

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<v Speaker 2>I will hold your LaBier through this process.

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<v Speaker 3>Only party, we'll have a lip party. We all come

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<v Speaker 3>dressed with lipstick. I thought you're about to say we

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to come dress as giant lady, Like how

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<v Speaker 3>I would do that?

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<v Speaker 2>But we could have a going away for your lay.

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<v Speaker 2>You might get a sponsor sponsored LaBier. Now a sponsored

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<v Speaker 2>laby PLoP swipe up, swipe up. This This has been

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<v Speaker 2>a real sharing episode from fungus to labyers.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys, Wow, how serious do you feel about it? Like,

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<v Speaker 3>do you think you're gonna have a consult.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm feeling very serious about it. I floated the

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<v Speaker 2>idea with Matt. I haven't had a deep conversation with

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<v Speaker 2>him about it. But I don't like the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm conscious of it. And I don't mean self conscious,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean physically conscious of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I can feeling about it. I think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I notice the discomfort from time to time, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is annoying me. And I also just want to prefact

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, even though I'm saying all this, I

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<v Speaker 2>need to then explain myself so that no one's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be writing articles like Laura's got ten centimeters long

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<v Speaker 2>labyers if I did also, fuck you, nothing wrong with me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not that they're like outrageously long. It's not that

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<v Speaker 2>they can like.

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<v Speaker 3>Roll them up. Yeah, they're not flapping in the wind.

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<v Speaker 3>It's none of that. It's just this this happen. I

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<v Speaker 3>just had this image of you going baragliding with your.

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<v Speaker 2>Laser like like a sugar like a literal sugar glider.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I just I know we're laughing, we're laughing, we're laughing.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do worry that people listen to this and

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<v Speaker 2>people who are experiencing. I don't want anyone to feel

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<v Speaker 2>like that there's something wrong with them, because this is

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<v Speaker 2>a consideration that I'm having. The Varica's vein situation is

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<v Speaker 2>a true discomfort, and if you have bad circulation, you

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<v Speaker 2>will know exactly what I'm talking about. It is something

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<v Speaker 2>that you're conscious of. It is something that gets itchy.

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<v Speaker 2>I have them on my ankles, and I get itchy

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<v Speaker 2>on my ankles.

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<v Speaker 3>All the time.

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<v Speaker 2>But think about that on your vulver and having to

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<v Speaker 2>scratch your vulver whilst you were like in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of your day is not great.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, with Varka's veins, you can have saline pushed

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<v Speaker 7>through them to like unblock the block.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can also have like a lasering and everything

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<v Speaker 2>else done. But I mean, these are the many things

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<v Speaker 2>to talk through with a healthcare professional and not my

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<v Speaker 2>My co hosts.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, we're not doing no, but I'll just plan the party. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I love what you're saying, but I also don't think

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<v Speaker 1>we need to reiterate that much. And I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're worried that people are gonna want to come for you,

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<v Speaker 1>but we have always said on this podcast, do what

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<v Speaker 1>you want with your body, but just make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>look at all the pros and cons, make sure it's

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing it for the right reasons, and make sure

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<v Speaker 1>it's for safety. Like, no one can come for you

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<v Speaker 1>because you are uncomfortable and want to change something on

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<v Speaker 1>your body like and if they do, they're not our people.

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<v Speaker 1>Also if they do go through this process.

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<v Speaker 2>And know, we spent a long time talking about something

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm not one hundred percent on yet, but if

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<v Speaker 2>I do go through this process, I will tell you.

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<v Speaker 3>I will tell you exactly what it's lack.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're thinking about it, or you're you know,

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<v Speaker 2>considering it, or something that you're self conscious about, because

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<v Speaker 2>I think that this is the type of thing that

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<v Speaker 2>no one talks about because everyone's everyone's so shameful talking

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<v Speaker 2>about it because they would hate for anyone to think

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<v Speaker 2>that their volver is less than perfect. But guess what

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<v Speaker 2>everyone is, especially if you've vagually birthed two children, had

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<v Speaker 2>two fucking episiotomies, let me tell you, shit is not

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<v Speaker 2>where it used to be.

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<v Speaker 3>We probably just don't need like a vlog of this one.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't you don't want to update it before?

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<v Speaker 2>Mate? We've just done step by step of BRIT's fertility,

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<v Speaker 2>like fucking hell, come on, step by step of my volver.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I want before and after this. I want to transition.

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<v Speaker 3>We can put them on the socials.

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<v Speaker 2>A transition, you know how you go up to the

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<v Speaker 2>camera and hit tap the camera with your volver and

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<v Speaker 2>then you come back and.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gone trending news on TikTok snipti. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So yesterday, walking back from the beach, there was something

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<v Speaker 2>that sparked Matt and Meyer's attention and I wanted to talk.

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<v Speaker 3>About it today with you right here, right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So there was these a four pieces of paper like

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<v Speaker 2>flyers that had been stuck underneath the windscreen wipers of

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<v Speaker 2>all the cars. I'm talking like every car in the

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<v Speaker 2>car park, all the way up the main street, all

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<v Speaker 2>the way into our street where we live. There was

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<v Speaker 2>like these flyers stuck on every single car. And Matt said, oh, like,

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<v Speaker 2>go on, can you go and get one of those?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see what that says. Because the very

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<v Speaker 2>first thing that you could see from like across the

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<v Speaker 2>street was hey, bitch. Now it looked like it had

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<v Speaker 2>been handwritten, but obviously you could see that it was

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<v Speaker 2>on every car, so it hadn't been handwritten because that's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of work. This is what the letter said, Hey, bitch,

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<v Speaker 2>hope you had fun with my boyfriend last night.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want your clothes back, you're gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Have to hire them on insert business name here from

0:26:55.680 --> 0:27:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Sarah Kiss Kiss, Jake's girlfriend. Ah, I saw see but

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<v Speaker 2>also well played.

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<v Speaker 3>If there's been some cheating going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if there's been cheating, I think that's like, what

0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:11.879
<v Speaker 2>a get back? What do you mean this is a

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:16.000
<v Speaker 2>marketing ploi if it is not a marketing ployee? Okay, right,

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:20.120
<v Speaker 2>Because I also saw this going viral online. I didn't

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 2>see it in NRL because I was away, but I

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 2>have seen this letter going bonkers online. Well when I

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:26.119
<v Speaker 2>saw it, I mean I didn't think about it as

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 2>content for the podcast, but then Keisha chucked it in

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 2>our content group chat that we have and it made

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 2>me think, Okay, maybe this is something that people are

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<v Speaker 2>talking about. And then I realized that it actually hits

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:37.440
<v Speaker 2>some like it's kind of gone viral across social media

0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 2>and if you haven't seen it, you might in the

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:42.040
<v Speaker 2>next couple of days. So basically, what this letter is,

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 2>it's a marketing like gorilla marketing and a flyer drop

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 2>from this high address company which they'd put all around

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:51.679
<v Speaker 2>Bondaia Beach and all around sort of this high populated area.

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 2>And when I read it, I had this visceral reaction

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 2>to the actual content of the letter, and I think

0:27:57.640 --> 0:28:00.040
<v Speaker 2>it was because like the hey bitch, it just I

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 2>felt really gritty and it felt really like a negative

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 2>brand messaging that as a small business owner myself, I

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 2>was like, that is ballsy, but I don't know whether

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 2>it lands. And I say this because yes, it lands

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:12.960
<v Speaker 2>in terms of getting people talking about it.

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:15.760
<v Speaker 3>Hello, Ding ding Ding? Were he talking about it right now? Exactly?

0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 2>But is it the type of brand association I would

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 2>want for my small business in terms of one associating

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 2>yourself with cheating and two calling people bitches?

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:24.600
<v Speaker 3>Kind of feels yuck. It's funny.

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:27.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm embarrassed to say that, Like I read this and

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:31.000
<v Speaker 1>just thought someone to cheat. It didn't click on me

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 1>that this was marketing at the start.

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:34.879
<v Speaker 2>Read it once and I was like, that's funny. I

0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:37.120
<v Speaker 2>had this whole image in my head that a girl

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 2>had walked in, sprung another chick with a boyfriend, taken

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 2>a close run out of the door, put them, sold

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 2>them or whatever. I had this whole image of how

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 2>that went down, and I was like, well, that's pretty

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 2>funny if the girl knew what she was doing. Now

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 2>that we have unpacked that it is a market employee,

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 2>I think it's brilliant.

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I think it is brilliant. I have seen this everywhere.

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I have looked at the site. I know other people

0:28:56.800 --> 0:28:58.200
<v Speaker 1>would have looked at the site. I think that this

0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 1>has gotten them so much business. They're not actually calling

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 1>anyone a bitch because.

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 2>It's a fictional character and it's made everyone want to

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:08.840
<v Speaker 2>go and look. It has dropped a breadcrumb that is

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:10.720
<v Speaker 2>so intriguing to see.

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 3>Is this real? Is there someone's clothes? What is that site?

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 3>I think it's brilliant.

0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 2>It's done like look at us talking about it, but

0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 2>totally and I do agree with you. I do think

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 2>that it absolutely has pushed traffic towards their website. And

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 2>I think as a small business these days, you have

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 2>to be very creative to get cut through, especially because

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 2>it costs so much money to advertise across social media.

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:30.760
<v Speaker 2>It costs so much money to advertise anywhere in a

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 2>normal sort of like out of home setting. So this

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 2>is taking your business offline, taking your business off social media,

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 2>and getting out of home marketing, but for no cost,

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:45.720
<v Speaker 2>which is incredibly, incredibly tactful of them. I think the

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 2>thing that I didn't like about it, and the reason

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 2>why I was like, oh, it makes me feel icky,

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 2>is because of this association of cheating and Keisha, you

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 2>nailed it when we were unpacking Keisha and I went

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 2>way too deep on this, but we were unpacking it,

0:29:57.120 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 2>and Keisha sorld have said that as women who talk

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 2>about cheating all the time, we talk about relationships all

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 2>the time. We unpack the nuance of relationships. The fact

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 2>that this letter goes after the female in that and

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 2>it's like, hey, bitch, you slept with my boyfriend instead

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:12.200
<v Speaker 2>of And I know that I'm getting way too deep

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 2>on a marketing letter. I get it, but it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like the trope of ten years ago. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>way in which we would speak about women ten years ago,

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 2>and it feels very backwards.

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 3>I think.

0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 2>So I'm kind of like, yes, it is a great

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 2>marketing tactic, but I feel like it landed a little

0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 2>bit short in terms of the positioning of a brand

0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 2>and the messaging of a brand.

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 1>But yes, okay, I totally get that. I totally get

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 1>that it takes two to ten go. But the way

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I saw this was I did not think that at all.

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 1>I saw this as like, Okay, there's two constants in

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:42.800
<v Speaker 1>this situation.

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 2>That's the boyfriend and the actual girlfriend, and then there's

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 2>one variable.

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 3>Which is the person that came in and cheated.

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:50.680
<v Speaker 1>She doesn't know that person that variable, So this is

0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>her response to someone she doesn't know that's done the

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 1>wrong thing. Right, She's going to I imagine this fictional relationship.

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 1>She's going to be dealing with her boyfriend at home

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 1>because she knows him, she lives with him.

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 2>That's her safe space. I'm sure he has his consequences too,

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 2>but I think that this. I don't want to normalize

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 2>this response if you find out that your partner's cheating,

0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:14.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say that.

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:16.719
<v Speaker 3>But I looked at this, I can promise you. I

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:17.520
<v Speaker 3>looked at this and.

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I thought, fucking lol, someone got sprung and now they

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 1>have to go buy you know, doing the dirty. Now

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 1>they've got to go buy their clothes back. I thought

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 1>it was funny. I literally just thought it was funny.

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I was like what an innocent way, because I think

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:29.120
<v Speaker 1>it is innocent. I think that there's a lot of

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 1>people that get very vicious and malicious when it comes

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 1>to cheating situations and affairs in what they do to people,

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 1>like public humiliation.

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 3>And things like that.

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 2>But I think if you've just like I got your

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 2>clothes because you left them there after you fucked my boyfriend,

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:42.080
<v Speaker 2>go buy them back.

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:43.000
<v Speaker 3>Totally I agree.

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 2>But I think the thing is is in terms of cheating,

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 2>And we know this because we've had many conversations about

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 2>it on the podcast, Like we have spoken about cheating

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:50.959
<v Speaker 2>for the last four and a half years. It is

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 2>the one topic that gets people the most fired up

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 2>anytime Britta and I have ever had a conversation about cheating,

0:31:56.800 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 2>where we've said it's grey. Relationships can improve after cheating.

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's the end

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:04.280
<v Speaker 2>of a relationship.

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 3>There are many variables around cheating.

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 2>We have always received negative feedback and negative reviews from

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 2>people who see cheating as black and white, even though

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 2>we don't necessarily see cheating as black and white. So

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 2>it is the most polarizing thing that I think you

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 2>could kind of lean into as a brand and as

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 2>a marketing tactic. I guess the other thing of this

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:25.520
<v Speaker 2>is when I think about if I was to find

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 2>out that Matt was cheating on me, and I'm just

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 2>gonna like, I'm going deep and I'm unpacking.

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:31.040
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, you wouldn't write a letter. I wouldn't run it.

0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 2>But I also wouldn't be calling the girl a bitch.

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't and my initial response would be like, try

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 2>to seek information from her. But I wouldn't be like, hey, bitch,

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 2>like you did this. It just feels it feels so dirty,

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:44.480
<v Speaker 2>it feels so.

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 7>Bratty, and it feels to me like the most basic

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 7>form of retaliation to a cheating Interesting, though, do you

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 7>think that it would have had as much cut through

0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 7>if it hadn't have used Like I'm talking about this

0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 7>as a marketing technique because I was actually sent this

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 7>by two of my friends yesterday who didn't think it

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 7>was a marketing technique, and I saw it on so

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:06.160
<v Speaker 7>many people's Instagram stories who thought it was a legitimate thing,

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 7>and it was me who said to them, guys, I

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:10.120
<v Speaker 7>think this could be a marketing thing because it's got

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 7>like the website on there, you know, like and I

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 7>hadn't heard of this website before and now I have,

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 7>so tick tick tick.

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Do you think it would have.

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 7>Had as much of a visceral response if they hadn't

0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 7>have used hay bit.

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 3>No, No, absolutely not.

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 2>And That's why I'm like, I do think it has

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 2>I absolutely think it's effective.

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 3>I think we're all talking about it.

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 2>The fact that we are on what is you know,

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say national, but I guess people overseas

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 2>are going to listen to this podcast.

0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 3>We're talking about it.

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 2>With the reach that we have about a flyer that

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 2>was being dropped in BONDI it is very, very, very effective.

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 2>I guess for me, the only thing that I saw

0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 2>as a negative is that brand association. And I say

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:49.640
<v Speaker 2>that as someone who owns a small business, where I'm like,

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:52.720
<v Speaker 2>you care so much about the storytelling of your brand.

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:54.480
<v Speaker 2>You care so much about the things that your brand

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 2>is associated with.

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:57.760
<v Speaker 7>But people care as well, Like people now want to

0:33:57.760 --> 0:34:00.240
<v Speaker 7>know about your environmental impact. They want to know about

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 7>all of these things that are behind the brand. We

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 7>don't just want to look at something and go that's pretty,

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:06.960
<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna buy it. We now want to know about

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 7>the political views of the owner like, we're totally so

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 7>for me, I'm like, this is a ballsy move as

0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 7>a brand when people are going to associate you with something.

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:17.920
<v Speaker 7>But then in saying that, look, I mean there's loads

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 7>of very successful, huge designer brands that have always flirted

0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 7>with that fine line of controversial. And I mean, like, ye,

0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 7>Balenciaga flirted too close with the line obviously, you know,

0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:32.920
<v Speaker 7>but they danced with that line for so long, and

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:35.799
<v Speaker 7>the flirting with something that is controversial is such a

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 7>hugely effective technique of getting people on board.

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 2>And to be fair, I have looked at this website now,

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:44.320
<v Speaker 2>like the flyer from this website.

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:46.359
<v Speaker 3>And the close are good. I would get them from there.

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:48.399
<v Speaker 3>I went on there and I was like, let's see

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 3>what this is about. Then I was like, cute, it.

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 5>Might hire that kidding, and that's what I'm probably going

0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:55.840
<v Speaker 5>to get something from there, Like that's it's so cute.

0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 5>I genuinely think it's brilliant. The only thing I think

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 5>I'm mad at is that I did think of this.

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:03.359
<v Speaker 1>I wish somehow we were like someone cheated on find

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:03.960
<v Speaker 1>out who.

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:05.400
<v Speaker 2>On Life on cut and put it on every on

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 2>It's like it's brilliant marketing.

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:09.279
<v Speaker 1>The word bitch. Okay, I get that. It's a shock value,

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:11.360
<v Speaker 1>but that's what marketing is. And you said it before, Laura.

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 1>The world is saturated with everything right now, especially marketing,

0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:17.400
<v Speaker 1>especially online marketing. Your scroll, it's the same stuff that

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 1>was seeing from every single person.

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Trust me, I know Tony made Black Friday Friday. Yeah yeah,

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:26.279
<v Speaker 2>but great marketing, Matt's marketing brilliant. You have to do

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:28.240
<v Speaker 2>things that are different to get cut through exactly.

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:29.600
<v Speaker 3>And that's my point for this.

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:32.719
<v Speaker 1>That is why I'm like, Okay, I get it, and

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 1>it didn't hurt anyone because it's it's not real, it's

0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 1>fictional and at the end of the day, it stopped

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 1>people in their tracks. They did offline marketing for a

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:43.040
<v Speaker 1>quarter of the price and got a ridiculous amount.

0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 3>Of course, the price this was like ten cents to

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:48.839
<v Speaker 3>print that and deliver it. That's cost money, one hundred percent.

0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 3>I reckon for them to do this, they have so

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:52.600
<v Speaker 3>they had just been doing It's further, in my point,

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:54.720
<v Speaker 3>it cost them nothing. It cost them nothing.

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 2>This would have been the cheapest, the cheapest form of

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 2>marketing that I do agree with you, Britain.

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<v Speaker 3>It has been so effective. It does make you think, like,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're a.

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:06.320
<v Speaker 2>Brand and you are in the hustle of spending money

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 2>on content, spending money on influencers, spending money on social

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:13.480
<v Speaker 2>media ads, what can you do that lies outside of

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<v Speaker 2>what is the normal?

0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 3>What can you do?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it doesn't have to be that flirts be controversial,

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<v Speaker 2>but what can you do that is a experiment that

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<v Speaker 2>is different.

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<v Speaker 7>It also makes me think though, and I mean, this

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<v Speaker 7>could be way too deep for how simple this is.

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 7>When we constantly have to have these different, more shock

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:35.160
<v Speaker 7>value kind of approaches to content or approaches to marketing,

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 7>I guess to me, I go, do we end up

0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:39.960
<v Speaker 7>getting into a position where it's just like everything is

0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 7>so rogue now there are no rules, like this is mental?

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 7>But I actually brought up in the car when we

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:46.959
<v Speaker 7>were driving here to work today. There's that BRA brand.

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 7>I've mentioned them on the podcast before. It's called Nala.

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:51.440
<v Speaker 7>I'm obsessed with them. It's a small business down in

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<v Speaker 7>Melbourne and they had a bit of controversy with Instagram

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<v Speaker 7>and TikTok. I think sorry if I'm not quoting this

0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:00.759
<v Speaker 7>exactly correctly, but essentially some of them the Bras are

0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 7>mesh and so the photos that they were using, they're.

0:37:03.800 --> 0:37:04.920
<v Speaker 3>Like, they're actual bras.

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:07.360
<v Speaker 7>And so they were posting photos on Instagram and you

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:10.759
<v Speaker 7>could see nipples through oh god, not the propple exactly.

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:14.240
<v Speaker 7>And so that goes against Instagram's nudity guidelines because women's

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 7>nipples are the devil, you know, men's nipples of fine.

0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:19.640
<v Speaker 7>But whatever, So they kept on getting posts taken down,

0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 7>and they were getting you know that hash shadow band.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you can get into trouble for it.

0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:28.520
<v Speaker 7>So to protest that, they bought this humongous inflatable boob

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:31.720
<v Speaker 7>with a nipple and they inflated it and floated it down.

0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 3>The Yarrow River. Brilliant. I thought it was so brilliant.

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 3>It was in protest too, like nipples of vine. Do

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 3>you know what? I like this because I mean, like

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 3>it's a giant tit floating down the river. People are

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:42.279
<v Speaker 3>going to talk about it, but yeah, do you see

0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:43.759
<v Speaker 3>that tits? Yeah? You giant.

0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:46.040
<v Speaker 2>And the thing that you said, Kisha is like, well,

0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:48.200
<v Speaker 2>if everyone's going to do things that are so outside

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<v Speaker 2>the box, does that then that mean that no one's

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<v Speaker 2>ever going to be shocked because things are like people

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<v Speaker 2>expect this type of guerrilla marketing. What I have to

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:58.399
<v Speaker 2>say on that is that no, I do not think

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<v Speaker 2>that there will ever become a time where the majority

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<v Speaker 2>of brands are doing things that lie that far outside

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<v Speaker 2>or are that shocking. And the reason for that is

0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:09.800
<v Speaker 2>because mostly brands are safe, and mostly marketing tactics follow

0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:14.440
<v Speaker 2>what they see other brands doing. Most small businesses are reactionaal.

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:16.200
<v Speaker 2>They'll look at something else that and other business has

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:17.759
<v Speaker 2>done and then they'll go, Okay, well I'll try that,

0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Or they put their money into quote unquote safe ways

0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:24.480
<v Speaker 2>of marketing their business because we don't have this indispensable

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:28.160
<v Speaker 2>disposable cash. A lot of small especially small businesses, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean big businesses have the ability to be a little

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:33.359
<v Speaker 2>bit more playful with their marketing budgets. But when you

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:37.040
<v Speaker 2>are trying to be everything and do everything in your business,

0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:39.880
<v Speaker 2>you don't have the creative freedom necessarily to go and

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<v Speaker 2>do these sorts of things. So I guess from an

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<v Speaker 2>initiative perspective, I do think that this is great.

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<v Speaker 7>I have a question for you both, and I don't

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<v Speaker 7>even know what my answer to this is. Do you

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:50.960
<v Speaker 7>think we give more? That's kind of clever and like

0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 7>a bit rogue and gorilla marketing. Because it's small business.

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:55.120
<v Speaker 7>Do you think we'd feel the same if it was

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<v Speaker 7>a huge corporation.

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<v Speaker 2>One percent, because in terms of it being a small business,

0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:01.480
<v Speaker 2>it's creative and it's it's outside a box. Whereas like

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<v Speaker 2>for a big company, like if it was McDonald's or

0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 2>someone who was doing letterbox drops like that, we would

0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:09.000
<v Speaker 2>be like, this is what your creative team came up with.

0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:11.320
<v Speaker 2>This is where you are with your millions of dollars

0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:14.759
<v Speaker 2>like doing this weirdly enough, it maybe be as successful.

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:16.480
<v Speaker 3>Maybe it wouldn't. Maybe we would be like, oh, that's

0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 3>so cringe.

0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:19.400
<v Speaker 7>McDonald's are trying to be a bit spicy and a

0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:20.400
<v Speaker 7>bit you know, edgy.

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:21.840
<v Speaker 3>I think it also fits the brand.

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 1>It's a dress higher company, so I think it fits

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 1>really well. Like I think, yeah, I took your clothes

0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:29.480
<v Speaker 1>from you, you fuck. You took your clothes off and

0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 1>fucked my boyfriend, so I picked them up, and like,

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:33.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, in terms of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Works for the story.

0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 2>The story is someone took their clothes off to have

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:38.919
<v Speaker 2>sex to get back at you, I'm going to sell

0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:41.200
<v Speaker 2>your clothes on this company. I think the story arc

0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:43.440
<v Speaker 2>there makes sense. Yeah, Like McDonald's are not going to

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:43.719
<v Speaker 2>be like.

0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 3>You're cheated, come get a big mac. Yeah.

0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, I know that we've been speaking about this for

0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:49.239
<v Speaker 2>a while, but I've just jumped onto their Instagram for

0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 2>an update, and the brand, who has posted this letter

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:56.120
<v Speaker 2>on every single car is resharing all of the comments

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 2>across social media. There are so many people who have

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:01.839
<v Speaker 2>reshed shared the picture of the letter in their car.

0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:04.440
<v Speaker 2>People are being like, poor Jake, I want to know

0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:07.239
<v Speaker 2>who Sarah is. There has been so many of them,

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:09.280
<v Speaker 2>and people are saying this is the most clever marketing.

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:11.359
<v Speaker 3>Some people are going to have this. Did this land?

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 3>Didn't this land?

0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:14.319
<v Speaker 2>And that was my initial reaction, But in terms of

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:16.480
<v Speaker 2>the amount of free eyeballs that they have garnered to

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:18.440
<v Speaker 2>their site, so many people are saying this is the

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<v Speaker 2>best marketing ploy I've ever seen. I literally fell for

0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:23.239
<v Speaker 2>it until I saw it was on everyone's car. I

0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:25.840
<v Speaker 2>am sensing unrest in the hood and people are like

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:29.319
<v Speaker 2>videoing other people's reactions to this, which, you know what

0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:31.600
<v Speaker 2>from a small business to come up with this, then

0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:32.839
<v Speaker 2>I kind of ever.

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:34.600
<v Speaker 3>Changed my mind. I think that they've done very well,

0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:36.000
<v Speaker 3>which was my exact.

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Initial response, which is like you have paid nothing offline

0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:42.280
<v Speaker 1>marketing to get a ridiculous amount of online marketing.

0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:45.399
<v Speaker 3>I cannot genuinely fault this. I think it's great.

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:47.440
<v Speaker 2>I yeah, and I guess if people's reaction to this

0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 2>is that they're taking it as the joke that it

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:50.839
<v Speaker 2>was intended, then it's no harm done.

0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:53.480
<v Speaker 3>We'll do it. Let's do it, let's let's proply it.

0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we say that's more controversial. Hey we had a

0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 2>threesome and now we're pregnant.

0:40:57.760 --> 0:41:01.400
<v Speaker 7>I read say that last week. We could print that

0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:03.960
<v Speaker 7>review that we once got. It was three stars, mind

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:07.359
<v Speaker 7>you that said I thought this podcast was uncircumcised men

0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:08.439
<v Speaker 7>very disappointed.

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:11.319
<v Speaker 3>Oh that could be good promotion. Yeah, that's true. What

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:11.840
<v Speaker 3>it's about.

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 2>Who do you think is going to listen to that?

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:15.359
<v Speaker 2>Do you think it'll be uncircumcised men or everyone else?

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:17.520
<v Speaker 3>Net gain is positive exactly.

0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:23.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well it is time for accidentally unfiltered Now this

0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 2>one it's not so much funny as.

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:30.359
<v Speaker 3>What it is awkward. Okay, Oh, here we go.

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 2>I started dating my boyfriend six years ago, and after

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 2>a little while I thought it was perfect that his

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:37.840
<v Speaker 2>mum was a doctor, so I could go to someone

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I knew in the hopes of it being less awkward

0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:44.560
<v Speaker 2>for me, but I was absolutely wrong. Initially I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to see her for minor things like, you know,

0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:49.840
<v Speaker 2>vaccines or having a cold, and during this time I

0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:52.719
<v Speaker 2>was on the pill. Eventually I needed to get a

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:54.960
<v Speaker 2>new script made, and I didn't think twice about.

0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:56.480
<v Speaker 3>Going to her and asking for a renewal.

0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:58.800
<v Speaker 2>I went in and I asked to get it renewed,

0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:01.480
<v Speaker 2>to which she began to ask a lot of personal questions,

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:04.600
<v Speaker 2>such as, are you using protection when you have sex?

0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Obviously she's implying with her son, and then she asked,

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 2>was I sexually active before her son? What's six years ago?

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 2>Wee no, they had only started dating. This happened six

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:17.800
<v Speaker 2>years ago, to which I replied yes. She then asked

0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:20.480
<v Speaker 2>me if I'd ever had an SDI check, to which

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:23.879
<v Speaker 2>I replied no. She then demanded that I had an

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:26.640
<v Speaker 2>SDI check and said it was routine and a checkup

0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:29.080
<v Speaker 2>that was needed and every GP would ask for it.

0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:30.920
<v Speaker 2>I feel like the gauge of this was not that

0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 2>it was just asked for. It was demanded by her

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 2>mother that she had an STI check. I don't know

0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 2>why this was ever a good idea. She hands me

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:41.560
<v Speaker 2>a script with the words chlamydia and STD screening on

0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:43.360
<v Speaker 2>it and for me to peanut cut and tells me

0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:44.919
<v Speaker 2>that I must get it back to her as soon

0:42:44.960 --> 0:42:47.399
<v Speaker 2>as possible. She then goes on to say, of course

0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I never gave it to her because it would mean

0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:50.600
<v Speaker 2>that she would be the first person to find out

0:42:50.680 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 2>if I didn't have an SDI. I immediately stopped going

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:55.640
<v Speaker 2>to her, And yes, I have been checked since.

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<v Speaker 3>The poor girl.

0:42:57.520 --> 0:42:59.319
<v Speaker 2>But then it turns out, okay, there's a little bit

0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:02.839
<v Speaker 2>more to this. The boyfriend's mum asked her like she did,

0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:04.600
<v Speaker 2>like a follow up, just like a courtesy.

0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:06.759
<v Speaker 3>Are you ever going to get me back that? How's

0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:07.480
<v Speaker 3>that SDI check?

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:07.719
<v Speaker 1>Going?

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<v Speaker 3>For clap? No, you can't say how's the clap? It's

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:14.360
<v Speaker 3>just a colloquialism for colmydia? Is that what we call it?

0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 8>Though?

0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:15.759
<v Speaker 2>Is that?

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:17.520
<v Speaker 5>No?

0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:20.320
<v Speaker 7>I found out the clap is actually colloquial for gonorrhea.

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 7>I've always I always thought it was because they both

0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:24.759
<v Speaker 7>started with S. Where did I chlymydia is really hard

0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:25.080
<v Speaker 7>to spell.

0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Also, we don't need to cutify an STI just like,

0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:28.880
<v Speaker 2>don't get the pill, get.

0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:30.120
<v Speaker 1>It dark because it's easy to be like, yeah, I

0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:35.520
<v Speaker 1>got the clap, it's a very easily treatable one, but

0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:37.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean fucking awkward.

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:39.719
<v Speaker 3>I get the GPS. They don't bog bill. It can

0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:40.879
<v Speaker 3>be very expensive, but I.

0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:43.840
<v Speaker 7>Feel like that's a cost I would justify.

0:43:44.160 --> 0:43:46.440
<v Speaker 2>When we interviewed Michael Hing at like one of the

0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:48.960
<v Speaker 2>live shows, he said something which I so deeply related to.

0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:50.200
<v Speaker 3>He's like, you have two doctors.

0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:52.560
<v Speaker 2>You have one doctor for the everyday stuff, and then

0:43:52.560 --> 0:43:54.239
<v Speaker 2>you have one doctor for the stuff that you don't

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:56.279
<v Speaker 2>want the everyday stuff to know about. And that is

0:43:56.400 --> 0:43:59.279
<v Speaker 2>not your boyfriend's mum. That's how I feel about the case.

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:01.200
<v Speaker 2>While we're on this, I did have one that I

0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:02.560
<v Speaker 2>was going to read. I was like, oh, save it

0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 2>for another week. But it's actually similar in terms of

0:44:05.120 --> 0:44:07.319
<v Speaker 2>it's not that oh it is, it's just uncomfortable. I

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 2>felt really uncomfortable when I read it. I'm so incredibly

0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:12.600
<v Speaker 2>lucky to be twenty two weeks pregnant today, woohoo. Last

0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:16.120
<v Speaker 2>week I found some free online anti natal classes to attend,

0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:19.200
<v Speaker 2>as I have so much to learn about preparing birth

0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 2>and raising a baby. I joined the first class this

0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:23.759
<v Speaker 2>evening via zoom and I thought, how great that this

0:44:23.880 --> 0:44:25.760
<v Speaker 2>is free, what a great similar community.

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:27.840
<v Speaker 1>I was on my phone and I was talking to

0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:29.600
<v Speaker 1>the Lovely Midwife. There were a bunch of people that

0:44:29.640 --> 0:44:32.240
<v Speaker 1>had also joined the class. She was giving some great

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:37.440
<v Speaker 1>information with diagrams, but every second word was um, so

0:44:37.640 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 1>much so that it actually drove me crazy, and I

0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:44.520
<v Speaker 1>struggled listening. I'm not being dramatic. I swear I'm not exaggerating.

0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I've never heard someone say I'm more in my life.

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:49.160
<v Speaker 2>So annoying to notice something. So if you look here

0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:51.560
<v Speaker 2>example the whole time.

0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:51.920
<v Speaker 3>Now.

0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:54.240
<v Speaker 1>I listen to podcasts every day and I run large

0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:57.120
<v Speaker 1>online training workshops for my work. I know as a

0:44:57.120 --> 0:44:59.240
<v Speaker 1>presenter that you need to mix up your filler words

0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 1>for better and gage. Anyhow, we're ten minutes in and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually struggling so hard with this constant use of

0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 1>the word um. So I saw a chat box that

0:45:08.680 --> 0:45:09.759
<v Speaker 1>I thought was anonymous.

0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:11.239
<v Speaker 3>Stop it.

0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:18.359
<v Speaker 1>I have since learned that to be anonymous, you need

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:21.560
<v Speaker 1>to click be anonymous. I decided this might be the

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<v Speaker 1>right time to suggest, and I don't know why, because

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<v Speaker 1>this poor lady was doing this fabulous call for free,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm so ashamed, but I said content's great infographics

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<v Speaker 1>are Okay, I can't stand how much you are using

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<v Speaker 1>the word m Can you please stop or I will

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<v Speaker 1>have to leave the chat. She thought it was anonymous feedback, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>valuable feed and then I'm not okay, no, it's and

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<v Speaker 1>then the lady. Two minutes later the midwife read out,

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<v Speaker 1>very offended and grumpy. Thanks, Chloe, I just got the

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<v Speaker 1>comment to use, so stop using the word.

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<v Speaker 2>Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been doing this for forty years, Chloe, and no

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<v Speaker 1>one has ever told me that it was a problem,

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<v Speaker 1>so I will continue to use it.

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<v Speaker 3>I am deceased.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I say, though, just because no one's ever told

0:46:01.280 --> 0:46:02.480
<v Speaker 2>you it's a problem doesn't mean it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>I edit out all the arms just.

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<v Speaker 2>Arms.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys don't, but guests do.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, we don't wear great with arms. Now, I say,

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<v Speaker 2>like a lot though, I edit that out. It drives

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<v Speaker 2>me crazy every time I listen back to an episode

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like like like like black, like like like

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm delete de Lily delead. Oh, Chloe, how awkward

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<v Speaker 2>like every you've pressed Oh, I just can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just thinking about that moment it pops up with

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<v Speaker 1>your name. You can't take it back.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like when you accidentally send the wrong text to someone,

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<v Speaker 2>which now you can delete within two minutes, but.

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<v Speaker 3>That moment that you press send and you're like, I

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<v Speaker 3>have deep progress.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a really, really, really beige version of this

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<v Speaker 2>on the weekend, like a minor, minor version of this.

0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:41.439
<v Speaker 2>So recently we got peloton bikes, right, and I'm using

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<v Speaker 2>it like I'm in the peloton world. Now.

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<v Speaker 3>It's great. I do my ED twenty minutes a nighttime,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm very unfit.

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<v Speaker 2>I've not exercised since Dancing with the Stars, like, not

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:52.040
<v Speaker 2>a single This is going to blow some people's minds,

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:54.120
<v Speaker 2>Like I haven't even been for a walk with the

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<v Speaker 2>intention of it being exercised since Dancing with the Stars.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you're growing a fungus, Yeah, you mean a

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:02.520
<v Speaker 3>lot out also the labia. Yeah, I'm growing a laba

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<v Speaker 3>and a fungus. Fuck you're growing.

0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:08.239
<v Speaker 2>But seriously, I've been so bad, so this has been

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<v Speaker 2>a really big thing for me. And I did my

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<v Speaker 2>like twenty minute workout was my first one, and then

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:15.440
<v Speaker 2>I went and did my second twenty minute workout and

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<v Speaker 2>I was really proud because it was two days in

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<v Speaker 2>a row. But I didn't realize that I had my

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<v Speaker 2>entire profile on public and at lists like what You've achieved,

0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:25.320
<v Speaker 2>and it was like these fucking losers just done twenty minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody else who was in the run was or in

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<v Speaker 2>the cycle was like private, but I was there with

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<v Speaker 2>my like twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>Minutes lay list.

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<v Speaker 7>Dude, this happens on Apple watches and Strava. People can

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<v Speaker 7>ask to.

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<v Speaker 3>Be friends with you.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't.

0:47:37.960 --> 0:47:38.440
<v Speaker 3>Why would I.

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<v Speaker 7>Ever want you to see how slowly I run a

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<v Speaker 7>call like, I don't need your judgment.

0:47:42.960 --> 0:47:45.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm judging myself enough. I don't need for people to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to see my exercise habits.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like David in the UK doesn't need to know

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<v Speaker 2>that I cycled for twenty minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Stick off, David, I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Laura, I'm going to go against the grain here. I

0:47:53.680 --> 0:47:56.319
<v Speaker 1>think twenty minutes on the pelotony's a flex thank you.

0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm only clock in twenty minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Does it count how many times you get to pull? No,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really into it.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't pause because if you can pause, but once

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<v Speaker 1>you go and you go on your feed as strapped

0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:07.399
<v Speaker 1>in on the it's like a proper cycle. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like a boss. I feel like I'm like a proper

0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:11.879
<v Speaker 1>cycle person. But it's like once the motion, the forward

0:48:11.920 --> 0:48:13.319
<v Speaker 1>motion is going, there's no stopping but.

0:48:13.320 --> 0:48:15.640
<v Speaker 3>Motion in the ocean. No see. I need this, I

0:48:15.760 --> 0:48:16.200
<v Speaker 3>need this.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to have something that keeps me so accountable

0:48:19.400 --> 0:48:21.799
<v Speaker 2>that it straps me and otherwise, if there's ever an

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<v Speaker 2>excuse to stop, I will stop.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm properly convinced that the only people who share their

0:48:26.160 --> 0:48:28.640
<v Speaker 7>health data are the people at like the crems of

0:48:28.719 --> 0:48:30.840
<v Speaker 7>La Chreme. They know they're fucking killing it. It's a flex.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not David's accountable.

0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:36.200
<v Speaker 7>It's the people who run four minute kilometers and they

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<v Speaker 7>just want to show people.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's fine. I don't think you need to be

0:48:39.560 --> 0:48:41.840
<v Speaker 3>sharing your palot on workouts with everyone. Put on private,

0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:44.600
<v Speaker 3>put on private. I did. It took me a while

0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:45.560
<v Speaker 3>to figure out how to though.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, guys, you know that we never finish a

0:48:48.680 --> 0:48:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Tuesday episode without our suck and our sweet, our highlight

0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:54.640
<v Speaker 2>and our low light of the week. Pretty Huckley, what

0:48:54.880 --> 0:48:57.480
<v Speaker 2>is your sucky duck apart from running over a bird?

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<v Speaker 3>That's it, my suck killed bird. Can you say the

0:48:59.440 --> 0:49:01.760
<v Speaker 3>same suck? You can? And you've done this for four years.

0:49:01.760 --> 0:49:03.600
<v Speaker 2>When that is the biggest worst thing of my week,

0:49:03.640 --> 0:49:05.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm one hundred percent doubling down on it, like I

0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:08.920
<v Speaker 2>killed an animal and it left me traumatized and it's

0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:09.359
<v Speaker 2>my suck.

0:49:09.480 --> 0:49:10.960
<v Speaker 3>Yep. My sweet was just that I went and saw

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<v Speaker 3>my family.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen all my family in Asia, so I

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<v Speaker 1>had just a really wholesome family weekend and caught up

0:49:14.880 --> 0:49:17.400
<v Speaker 1>with some old friends, like just a weekend that I

0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:19.600
<v Speaker 1>don't really do very often. I feel like I'm all

0:49:19.680 --> 0:49:21.880
<v Speaker 1>just work, work, work, alone, alone, alone, Like I just

0:49:22.000 --> 0:49:24.400
<v Speaker 1>chill my own all the time. And that's not a complaint,

0:49:24.440 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 1>but like that's my wind down, you know. And then

0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:28.440
<v Speaker 1>I really thought, Okay, I've got to stop putting my

0:49:28.480 --> 0:49:31.279
<v Speaker 1>solitude and my love of solitude before actually catching up

0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:33.520
<v Speaker 1>with the people that matter, which is actually perfect timing

0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:35.400
<v Speaker 1>for the episode that we have tomorrow, which is with

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<v Speaker 1>Dodtor Ali Walker. Now, I've had a Ali Walker on the

0:49:37.680 --> 0:49:39.799
<v Speaker 1>podcast before if that name rings a bearl and we

0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:43.040
<v Speaker 1>spoke to her about Connection because she's a Connection specialist.

0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:44.000
<v Speaker 2>And you guys loved her as much as we did.

0:49:44.080 --> 0:49:46.680
<v Speaker 2>So we've got her back and we're talking about exactly

0:49:46.719 --> 0:49:51.880
<v Speaker 2>that solitude loneliness in particular young people tied to this

0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:54.000
<v Speaker 2>time of year because it's a hard time of year

0:49:54.040 --> 0:49:56.440
<v Speaker 2>coming into the Christmas holidays. Well, we really felt that

0:49:56.520 --> 0:49:59.000
<v Speaker 2>it was the perfect time to kind of re explore

0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:02.319
<v Speaker 2>this topic, Dear of Loneliness. And you know, during a

0:50:02.360 --> 0:50:04.359
<v Speaker 2>time of year where everyone is told to be happy

0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:06.279
<v Speaker 2>because it's Christmas and there's all these amazing things to

0:50:06.320 --> 0:50:08.640
<v Speaker 2>look forward to. But if there is a gap between

0:50:08.680 --> 0:50:10.880
<v Speaker 2>how you're feeling and what you're supposed to be feeling

0:50:10.960 --> 0:50:11.200
<v Speaker 2>i E.

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<v Speaker 3>Jolly, i E.

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas, then it can make you feel even more lonely,

0:50:15.160 --> 0:50:17.840
<v Speaker 2>and it can exacerbate those feelings of the things you

0:50:17.880 --> 0:50:20.239
<v Speaker 2>don't have in your life, especially and I know we've

0:50:20.280 --> 0:50:22.720
<v Speaker 2>spoken about it in past years, but especially for people

0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:25.400
<v Speaker 2>who are single, who want to be in relationships and

0:50:25.440 --> 0:50:28.600
<v Speaker 2>they're going to family gatherings and everyone seems to be

0:50:28.680 --> 0:50:30.920
<v Speaker 2>in a relationship, but can really highlight those moments in

0:50:30.960 --> 0:50:31.480
<v Speaker 2>life as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So that is coming out tomorrow. It is a great episode.

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<v Speaker 2>And then for My Suck and Sweet for the Week,

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<v Speaker 2>My Suck for the Week, So Marley's become really obsessed

0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:41.879
<v Speaker 2>with this baby doll, like obsessed with this baby doll,

0:50:41.920 --> 0:50:42.800
<v Speaker 2>she carries it everywhere.

0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:43.520
<v Speaker 3>She's a mum.

0:50:43.800 --> 0:50:45.920
<v Speaker 2>She's not very good mum because she's not particularly gentle

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<v Speaker 2>with the baby doll. But it is an uncomfortably realistic

0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:53.560
<v Speaker 2>looking newborn baby doll, Like it looks like a when

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:55.920
<v Speaker 2>a very fresh newborn comes out. It's got that like

0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:59.920
<v Speaker 2>really squished newborn babyface. Anyway, my suck is that she

0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:02.480
<v Speaker 2>now insists on taking it everywhere. That includes to the beach.

0:51:02.560 --> 0:51:04.200
<v Speaker 2>So she took it to the beach with her yesterday

0:51:04.239 --> 0:51:07.880
<v Speaker 2>and she dragged this baby doll around the kid's pool

0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:10.200
<v Speaker 2>by its foot. She threw it into the ocean. The

0:51:10.320 --> 0:51:12.719
<v Speaker 2>amount of people who stopped and looked at us like

0:51:13.080 --> 0:51:16.560
<v Speaker 2>we were just well, there was so many double takes,

0:51:16.640 --> 0:51:19.040
<v Speaker 2>so many double takes, but you can't get it off her,

0:51:19.080 --> 0:51:21.239
<v Speaker 2>and it just seems so inappropriate to have it in

0:51:21.280 --> 0:51:24.600
<v Speaker 2>that space. So this is my juggle, is trying to

0:51:25.040 --> 0:51:28.000
<v Speaker 2>explain to Mali while that that's not necessarily the best

0:51:28.040 --> 0:51:28.440
<v Speaker 2>thing to do.

0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:30.960
<v Speaker 3>It's not a big suck, but it is very very

0:51:31.080 --> 0:51:31.680
<v Speaker 3>very awkward.

0:51:31.920 --> 0:51:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you only do you need to explain

0:51:33.640 --> 0:51:35.440
<v Speaker 2>that one if it's that realistic and you're at a

0:51:35.480 --> 0:51:38.480
<v Speaker 2>kiddy pool with other kids and kids. I think you

0:51:38.480 --> 0:51:40.200
<v Speaker 2>need to explain that one, which we tried, but then

0:51:40.200 --> 0:51:42.000
<v Speaker 2>it ended up in her having a full Stage five

0:51:42.040 --> 0:51:44.319
<v Speaker 2>meltdown at the Bondeau public pools and I was like,

0:51:44.360 --> 0:51:45.480
<v Speaker 2>I just can't deal with this right now.

0:51:45.520 --> 0:51:46.840
<v Speaker 3>It's not the hill I'm going to die on today.

0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, what you got to do is when they're asleep,

0:51:49.480 --> 0:51:51.200
<v Speaker 2>you take the toy and you hide it, put it

0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:53.360
<v Speaker 2>in the bin, and that's how you get rid of things.

0:51:53.640 --> 0:51:55.960
<v Speaker 2>And then you say that the toy fairy came and

0:51:55.960 --> 0:52:00.000
<v Speaker 2>took it away. Say I think I'm doing some damage

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:00.680
<v Speaker 2>to my children.

0:52:01.120 --> 0:52:01.640
<v Speaker 3>Not sure.

0:52:01.800 --> 0:52:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, My sweet for the week is you know how

0:52:04.520 --> 0:52:06.440
<v Speaker 2>I talked about my laptop last week and how it

0:52:06.520 --> 0:52:09.080
<v Speaker 2>was absolutely eft and it went swimming in my handbag

0:52:09.360 --> 0:52:11.080
<v Speaker 2>and it was all over. And then I bought myself

0:52:11.080 --> 0:52:14.840
<v Speaker 2>a new laptop. Guess what it came Bachelor. The rice

0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:19.319
<v Speaker 2>worked and if you've ever been curious rice, Matt put

0:52:19.360 --> 0:52:22.000
<v Speaker 2>it in a box full of rice for two days,

0:52:22.440 --> 0:52:24.840
<v Speaker 2>and on the third day it rose again.

0:52:25.040 --> 0:52:27.600
<v Speaker 3>Did he put the rice over the keyboards and stuff completely?

0:52:27.680 --> 0:52:30.560
<v Speaker 2>He opened it and he completely encased it in rice

0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:33.640
<v Speaker 2>and it fully dried out. And now it's working, and

0:52:33.719 --> 0:52:35.800
<v Speaker 2>I just feel like Rice is the savior for everything.

0:52:35.840 --> 0:52:37.919
<v Speaker 2>If you're life, anything in your life is going wrong,

0:52:37.960 --> 0:52:39.480
<v Speaker 2>I think we just pop it in Rice from now on.

0:52:39.560 --> 0:52:42.879
<v Speaker 2>I don't know about that break up Rice, Rice, Yeah, absolutely,

0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:45.279
<v Speaker 2>you got a cold. Go sit in some Rice having

0:52:45.320 --> 0:52:47.600
<v Speaker 2>a mental breakdown, Go sit in some Rice. It's gonna

0:52:47.600 --> 0:52:49.879
<v Speaker 2>make everything better. Why do you think it's been such

0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:51.520
<v Speaker 2>a core part of Asian culture for so long?

0:52:51.600 --> 0:52:53.399
<v Speaker 3>They know what they're doing. Please, Rice, do not listen

0:52:53.400 --> 0:52:56.799
<v Speaker 3>to Laura's health advice. Broke down. Wait wait, wait, you

0:52:56.880 --> 0:52:57.480
<v Speaker 3>hurt yourself?

0:52:57.640 --> 0:53:01.400
<v Speaker 2>Rice, rest Ice compression elevation see literally faces ever literally

0:53:01.440 --> 0:53:02.680
<v Speaker 2>eat us us.

0:53:03.239 --> 0:53:06.120
<v Speaker 3>You don't eat Rice anyway. Thank you guys for listening

0:53:06.160 --> 0:53:08.200
<v Speaker 3>to this episode. That is it from us.

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