1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: More than two thousand public housing properties will be transferred 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: to community housing providers as part of a multimillion dollar 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: community housing strategy launched yesterday. Five hundred homes across Darwin 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: and Palmerston are going to be transferred imminently with an 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: EOI release. It also means that there'll be an additional 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: five hundred dwellings two hundred and fifty in both Alice 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: Springs and Greater Darwin that are going to be transferred 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: during the next financial year. Now, it is all part 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: of the Northern Territory Community Housing Growth Strategy for twenty 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: twenty two to thirty two, which comes with an initial 11 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: investment of twenty two point three million dollars to fund initiatives, 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: investments and works including redevelopment opportunities and managing the construction 13 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: of additional social and affordable housing homes across the Northern Territory. 14 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: So what does this all mean for Territorians. Well, joining 15 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: me on the line to tell us a bit more 16 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: is the Minister for Urban Housing, Kate Warden. 17 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: Good morning to your minister. 18 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 3: Good morning Katie. 19 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 2: Now, Minister, what is the aim of this strategy? 20 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 4: So overall this is a it sets a relationship up 21 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 4: with the community housing sector where we will it's a 22 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 4: key feature of this plan. So it's a ten year 23 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 4: plan to really change the way that affordable, social and 24 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 4: public housing will work right the way across Norn territory 25 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 4: for the next ten years. So a key feature and 26 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 4: you mentioned it there, is that the existing will transfer 27 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 4: the existing management of up to forty percent and that's 28 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 4: that two thousand figure, just over two thousand public housing 29 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 4: properties in the. 30 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 3: Next ten years will be handed over to them community 31 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 3: housing sector. And that's just it makes a lot of sense, Katy. 32 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 4: It's being done all over Australia and that really what 33 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 4: that happens is that the community housing sector, they have 34 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 4: a charitable status, so they get some tax relief around 35 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,919 Speaker 4: the way they manage those They are absolutely able to 36 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 4: get new money into the territory through the Commonwealth Rental 37 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 4: Assistance program, which is the territory government can't do, so 38 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 4: that then gives them more money than we can have 39 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 4: to reinvest. 40 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 3: Into the system. 41 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 4: It also means that they can leverage the properties. Those 42 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 4: properties essentially go onto their books and they're able to 43 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 4: for a ten to twenty year period of time and 44 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 4: they're then able to leverage different money that we just 45 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 4: can't get and finance that we can't get, so they'll 46 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 4: be able to leverage those in order to build and 47 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 4: develop their properties over time. They can get money out 48 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 4: of places like the Nifik and the Knafe and get 49 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 4: some more they can, so they just literally. 50 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 3: Use the equity and those properties to do that. Government 51 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 3: just can't do it. It makes an awful lot of sense. 52 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 4: It's just taken a while to bed down the process 53 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 4: for those things to happen. 54 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 3: And we're now in the right place with that strategy 55 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 3: coming out. 56 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 4: So that means, as you said, the ex version of interest, 57 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 4: there's two lots in the first round, which is Darwin 58 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 4: and Palmerston, of two hundred and fifty dwellings in each 59 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 4: of those packages. We'll transfer them over and they can 60 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 4: start using that to leverage that additional money into the 61 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 4: Northern territory. 62 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: So, Minister, how many public well how long are our 63 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 1: public housing weight lists at the moment. 64 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 4: So those weightlists are very in different spaces, so I 65 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 4: think it's much tighter a longer weightlist in somewhere like 66 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 4: Tenant Creek. But it also depends on the status of 67 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 4: the person. It depends on We've got a large weight 68 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 4: list for people wanting a one bedroom for example, than 69 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 4: a four bedroom house, So it really depends what you need, 70 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 4: what your requirements are, and where you're located. The lower 71 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 4: there's lower weight lists, I think in Palmerston than other places. 72 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 4: So I can't say to you that you know there's 73 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 4: a three year weightlist here and a two year weightless 74 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 4: there because it really depends. And there's also prior there's 75 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 4: weightless people. But we've also got John Stokes coming that 76 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 4: will be ready a bit later this year, and there's 77 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 4: sixty six beds I think bedrooms available. 78 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 3: Actually I think there's more than seventy. 79 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 4: There's seventy six actually, Katie, new dwellings that will come 80 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 4: on there. 81 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 3: So the weight list will reduce. 82 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: I guess we have that well. 83 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: And I guess what people listening this morning will be thinking. 84 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: Is this transfer to community housing providers going to see 85 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: weight lists reduced or is it going to is it 86 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: also going to mean that they can be managed differently 87 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: so we maybe don't see the volume of anti social 88 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: behavior that we do currently. 89 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 4: So can I say, Katie that most public housing tenants 90 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 4: are amazing. I think you know we do see some 91 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 4: that are not good, and it wouldn't matter if it's 92 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 4: in community houses. It wouldn't matter if it was in 93 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 4: community housing hands or our hands. 94 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: We all will take action. 95 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 4: We all covered by the same legislation, the Residential Tenancies Act, 96 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 4: in reference to how we manage poor behavior by tenants, 97 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 4: and generally I will say it's their visitors. 98 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 3: That cause problems. 99 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 4: What we will see with the change is you'll see 100 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 4: their ability to deal with tenancies that are pretty complex 101 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 4: will be different. 102 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: They'll be able to have specialist staff around that. 103 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 4: We've already placed Team Health, for example, they provide mental 104 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 4: health services, and we've already transferred over the last twelve 105 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 4: months some properties to them, and we actually have reduced 106 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 4: significantly anti social behavior in and around those properties in 107 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 4: Run Street. And anybody that's been around for a long 108 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 4: time in the territory will know that Run Street used 109 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 4: to be an absolute hot bed for antisocial behavior and 110 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 4: it is no longer. And that's simply because we work 111 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 4: with Team Health. They're a community housing provider, but we'll 112 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 4: do small scale work with them. 113 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 3: But what you will see is you'll see some. 114 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 4: Placemaking activities where you'll get a mix of tenants, so 115 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 4: you won't just get this concentration of people on very 116 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 4: low socio economic You'll get some affordable housing, you'll get 117 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 4: some social housing. They'll really mix it up. They'll also 118 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 4: build new dwellings. But what I can say is I'm 119 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 4: also going to be building new dwellings as well. And 120 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 4: we do have John Stokes coming on, so we will 121 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 4: see a drop in the weight lists over the next 122 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 4: twelve months because of Jones Stokes. But of course then 123 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 4: we've got a project going on in the Narrows, so 124 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 4: we've obviously got some movement of tenants out of there, 125 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 4: so that when you're moving tenants around that artificially inflates 126 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 4: the weight list at that point in time, and then 127 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 4: you get a new property like we'll see with John 128 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 4: Stokes coming on. So it's short I always say it, Katie, 129 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 4: it's short term paying for some longer term gain and 130 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 4: there's a lot of that happening at the moment. 131 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: So Minister, is this transfer to those community housing providers? 132 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: Is it acknowledgment that the government can't do the job 133 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: or is it the opposite that is sort of spreading 134 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: the load. 135 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: I guess. 136 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 4: So we've seen overall that community housing providers and other 137 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 4: states have done extremely well in this space. It's not 138 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 4: an acknowledgement we have currently an old public housing system. 139 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 4: This is about how we're smart and get reform. 140 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 3: Of that old public housing system. 141 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 4: As you would understand, Katie, in the territory forty years ago, 142 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 4: these assets were new and they had government workers in them. 143 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 4: Over time, a lot of those assets were sold. Certainly 144 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 4: prior to our time in government, a lot of those 145 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 4: assets were sold to the government workers that were in them, 146 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 4: So we had a reduction in stock at that point, 147 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 4: which did start to escalate the wait lists. This is 148 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 4: the way that we know that we will work with 149 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 4: very confident partners to leverage and get more social and 150 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 4: affordable housing into the Northern Territory. I'm really confident of 151 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 4: that over time, and they will deliver high quality and 152 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 4: cost effective housing services. 153 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: It makes sense. This is a smart way to go. 154 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 3: It's just taken us a while to get there. 155 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 4: And you know, there's organizations like Venture that were set 156 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 4: up many years ago by the government to do justice work. 157 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 3: We've never given them enough. 158 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 4: We've also got Yearly Reung, an Aboriginal housing organization that's 159 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 4: very confident in this space they have already provide high 160 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 4: quality services. 161 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 3: This is a leap of faith. 162 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 4: It shows the trust that the government has got in 163 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 4: those organizations to manage properties and this sets a pathway 164 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 4: for us to do that over the next ten years. 165 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: Well, Minister, it is. 166 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: It is certainly going to be interesting to see how 167 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 1: it all rolls out. And I think the main thing 168 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: that people listening this morning will be thinking is hopefully 169 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: it does mean that we're able to get people into 170 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: homes who do need that public housing. But I want 171 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: to ask you, I know that hundreds of people are 172 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: estimated to have lost their homes. Community unrest descends into 173 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: what's been described as lawlessness in what air. 174 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 2: Over the last over the last few weeks. 175 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: So we know that four hundred people are estimated to 176 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: have lost those homes. 177 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 2: Minister. 178 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: I know that you're obviously you know you cover urban housing. However, 179 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: this is there is no doubt that this is having 180 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: a big impact on families and children in that community. 181 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: It must be a real concern when those houses are 182 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: damaged and people are left without homes. 183 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, Katie, And to be honest, I do know 184 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 4: that our stuff, so I share the Department with Minister 185 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 4: Pike for who's the Minister for Remote But I am 186 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 4: aware that our staff haven't been able to get on 187 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 4: the ground yet. 188 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 3: So while there. 189 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 4: Are claims of hundreds of people and you know, loss 190 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 4: of all those houses, we need to be able to 191 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 4: get into the ground and assess those what needs to 192 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 4: be done. It has been unsafe to do so, But 193 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 4: my understanding is that our stuff are going to be 194 00:09:59,440 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 4: able to get. 195 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 3: Out there today. 196 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 4: So without that proper assessment, I would be really reluctant 197 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 4: to comment. 198 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 3: But what I will say is what's. 199 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 4: Happened there is it's clear from the vision to all 200 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 4: of us that there is some criminal property damage that's happened, 201 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 4: and those people also need to be held to account. 202 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 3: So it is my absolute hope. Obviously that is a. 203 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 4: Police matter, but it is my absolute hope that those 204 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 4: people doing the damage will be held responsible. 205 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 3: Whether they are here in an urban setting in what 206 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. You know, this is what. 207 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 4: We've seen online is totally unacceptable. It is affecting local 208 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 4: families and that's a tragedy. Because I know that police 209 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 4: are working collaboratively with the community and families out there 210 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 4: that are not involved in the dispute and are being 211 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 4: affected by people's really poor behavior. 212 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 3: And you know, most residents of what I want this 213 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 3: to stop. 214 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 4: It's only a small cohort of people and it's my 215 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 4: absolute hope that they will be held to account for 216 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 4: criminal property damage. 217 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 3: But we've got to job to. 218 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 4: Do is to get out there and make sure homes 219 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 4: are safe for people, and we need to be on 220 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 4: the ground to do that. 221 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: All right, So a team heading out there today to 222 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: go and assess those properties, and no doubt, I'm sure 223 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: that there will be you know, there'll be further work 224 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: done by the Territory Police. I also want to go 225 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: to the front page of the paper today. A preliminary 226 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: report has been completed into a new three hundred million 227 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: dollar Doarwen Stadium, with a business case now set to 228 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: be prepared. Minister, are we going to build a brand 229 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: new stadium in the city? 230 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 3: So, Katie, that report's not quite true. We haven't got 231 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 3: a preliminary report. I've been on the task force and 232 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 3: leading the task force with Sean Bowden for a. 233 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 4: Few months now. I think, you know, there's a lot 234 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 4: of passion around footy, but it's actually putting the cart 235 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 4: before the horse in terms of that front page today, 236 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 4: we are looking at what it's going. 237 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 3: To take to build a territory club here. It's not 238 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 3: a territory team. 239 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 4: It's a territory club for the Northern Territory because we 240 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 4: would need to have reserve sides, we'd need to have 241 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 4: women's sides. 242 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 3: It's a real club that we're looking at. 243 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 4: We have got a lot of experience on the Task 244 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 4: Force and we are looking at the viability of that 245 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 4: now out of the work that we're doing. 246 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 3: We're currently doing. 247 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 4: A social impact state study and we need to know 248 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 4: that in we need. 249 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 3: To build a business case. 250 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 4: Now, if it falls out of that business case that 251 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 4: we're required to have a stadium, then that's obviously something 252 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 4: for us to look at. I think they're just putting 253 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 4: the cart before the horse here. 254 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 3: I think we're under. 255 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 4: No illusions that it would be a requirement of the 256 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 4: AFL for us to have a stadium at some point 257 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 4: that has. 258 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: A particular capacity. 259 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 4: And if that turns into a stadium that we have, 260 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 4: you know, a requirement for that, then you would need 261 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 4: a further study about where that would need to be 262 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 4: and how we found have discussed it at the Task 263 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 4: Force that it would need to be a stadium that 264 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 4: was so much more than somewhere to play Yeah, AFL football. 265 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: Well when we meet to have the money to be 266 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 2: the builder. 267 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: To do before then, Katie, Yeah. 268 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: And where would we get that money to build it? 269 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 4: Absolutely so we would Those things would need to be 270 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 4: looked at further down the track. As I said, it's 271 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 4: cut before the horse. The task force is on is 272 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 4: very set in its purpose. 273 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 3: We're there to see if it's viable in. 274 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 4: An unconventional model to have a team based in the 275 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 4: Northern Territory. 276 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 3: There's a lot of passion for it, you know. 277 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 4: Our young people coming through would definitely want to aspire 278 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 4: to that. I was speaking to some young players in 279 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 4: Alice Springs last a couple of weeks ago and they 280 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 4: absolutely would love to play for the Northern Territory and 281 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 4: be part of a territory club in the national competition. 282 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 3: There's no doubt about that. 283 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 4: But we're doing the work to understand fully what that 284 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 4: would take for us to make a bid for a 285 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 4: license in the AFL and with the AFL, should one 286 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 4: an opportunity be available. 287 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 3: That's our task. We are not focused on building a stadium, but. 288 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 4: A stadium, you know, may be part of the picture 289 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 4: when we're finished with the business case. 290 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: Sounds like there's still plenty of work to go in 291 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: that space. Minister Minister for Sport, also for Urban Housing 292 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: and various other portfolios. Kate Warden, we really appreciate your 293 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: time this morning. 294 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 3: Thank you, thanks for reaching out. Katie, thank you.