1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, Shiny Grimman fights to gain 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: access back to her one point four million followers. 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 2: Leah. 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: It's seen as ties, the knot in backyard ceremony, and 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: the on again, off again influencer relationships. 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture 8 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: news twice a week. I'm Sophie Torber and I'm beside myself. 9 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: For the past forty eight hours, I have been trying 10 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: to track down a gingerbread house kit, well six gingerbread 11 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: house kits, to be exact, and they are nowhere to 12 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: be found. 13 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 3: I have rung four. 14 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: Shops, I've visited about five now and I can't find 15 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: any at all. There's always that one thing that you 16 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: can't find at Christmas time, isn't it. 17 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 3: There's that one item. 18 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: That is so popular. Well, mine's a tree skirt. So 19 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: it's my first year with an artificial tree, and I've 20 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: got the ugly legs on display. These gingerbread houses, though, 21 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: they're so popular because they're all over Pinterest. So basically 22 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: for twenty year olds and thirty year olds, the in 23 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: thing at the moment is to have all your friends 24 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: over and have a gingerbread house making night. 25 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 3: And I have fallen into this trap because I desperately 26 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 3: want to do one. 27 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: So I'm supposed to be having it tonight and I've 28 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: had to make my own gingerbread. And I've gone to 29 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: this local store near me called Custom Cutters and they have. 30 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 3: These little gingerbread house shapes. 31 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: So I'm hoping it will work out. I'll put it 32 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: on our Instagram. What the end result actually is there 33 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: might only be one little gingerbread house, not one for everyone. 34 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: I love how you're really into the trend, but the 35 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: thought of actually having to make the gingerbread house to 36 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: put the houses together too hard. Everyone on Pinterest has 37 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: the bought gingerbreads, though I've not seen anyone cut them 38 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: out themselves. You'll be one upping them because ours will 39 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: be homemade gingerbread. Do you know what the worst thing is? 40 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: I have been ringing all these stores, or when I 41 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: go up in person and ask someone in the store 42 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: and they literally look at me as if I'm stupid. 43 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 3: You know, when someone has a laugh like, nah, they're 44 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: sold out. 45 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: That happened to me last year, except it was spinach 46 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: because everyone was making cob loaf dips and they were 47 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: sold out everywhere the week leading up to Christmas. So 48 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: I've got a bone to pick with you because I 49 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: wanted to make the Kitcat gingerbread house. 50 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: It was so hold it's thirty four degrees. How do 51 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 3: you reckon that would go? 52 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 4: I kind of? 53 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: Can I still bring over the kick? 54 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 4: No? 55 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 3: You can see what looks better? 56 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: No you can't. Yes, she can bring them over. I 57 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: want to see what everyone's saying. I want to see 58 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: what the listeners think. It is a gingerbread Kitcat better. 59 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 3: I'm okay. I won't be rolling out a gingerbread house 60 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: for you. 61 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: Then okay, Well, Amy, why don't you make a white 62 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,399 Speaker 1: chocolate Kitcat Gingerbread house and have it for the White 63 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: party because that's this Friday. Oh that's a fantastic I 64 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: do know what we're going to get in our reviews. 65 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: I remember someone wrote a little less Stepford Wives in 66 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: your podcast. 67 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. 68 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: I enjoy baking at Christmas is the only time. 69 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 3: I enjoy it. 70 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: I am the least step food wife person. Maybe kay, 71 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: but look I wouldn't. I don't find that offensive, to 72 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: be honest. 73 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 3: It is time to do my makeup. I'm going to 74 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 3: show you how to get this look right here, Let's 75 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 3: do it. 76 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: Shiny Grimman is currently in a battle to gain back 77 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: access to her one point four million Instagram followers. The 78 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: og beauty influencer's account mysteriously disappeared earlier this month, prompting 79 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: concerns Shiny had called it quits on social media. 80 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: Amy What has happened? 81 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 4: Well? 82 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: At first, a lot of people thought that maybe Shany 83 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: had just had enough of Instagram and deleted her account. However, 84 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: Sharni recently shared on her secondary account Shany gribbn Unfiltered, 85 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: that this was now her backup account until her main 86 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: account is backed. But she hasn't gone into the reasons 87 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: why this account has disappeared now. Shanny hasn't shared a 88 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: grid post on her backup account since June seventeenth. She's 89 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: only been sharing stories recently, so she isn't yet sharing 90 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: any sponsored content to this account. So she has one 91 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty two thousand followers on this backup account 92 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: that's compared to her one point four million followers on 93 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: her main account. 94 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: Now, there are. 95 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: Two likely scenarios that's happened. The first is that her 96 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: account has been hacked, which we've seen happen a lot 97 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: to influences, or her account has been shut down by 98 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: Instagram for possible breaches, and this actually happened this year 99 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: to account shit Adelaide, when their page was vindictively reported 100 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: a number of times and it resulted in it being 101 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: shut down. I wonder if this has anything to do 102 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: with Instagram moving towards removing a lot of boty accounts, 103 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: because I'm not suggesting that Sharny has fake followers at all, 104 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: but generally most people have just generic bot accounts that 105 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: start following them, and someone of that nature who has 106 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: one point four million followers, they'd have a fair amount 107 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: of bot accounts. So one if she's been caught up 108 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: in that at all, or as you say, maybe someone 109 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: has reported her for nudity or I don't know, especially 110 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: with her silk swim, you just don't know. I mean, 111 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: some people are also vindictive. This could have been a 112 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: targeted attack on Shanny. 113 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 114 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: Can I just say I know she doesn't share nude photos. 115 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: I'm saying that, you know a lot of bikini photos, 116 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: maybe people have reported nipples in them. Yeah, there's a 117 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: weird thing with Instagram and nipples. 118 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 3: We've seen. 119 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: We've seen mums whose accounts have been shut down for 120 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: sharing breastfeeding photos, but yet photos of men's dicks are 121 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: allowed to be on there. So I shows what's happened now. 122 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: Shanny has been very absent this year on YouTube, which 123 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: is what she was originally known for, and it's clear 124 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: that her business Silk Swim, has been her number one 125 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: priority and YouTube has very much taken a back seat 126 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: for a number of years now. She's only posted two 127 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: videos to her YouTube. One was a vlog in Dubai 128 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: and one was her updated makeup routine. Yeah, and this 129 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: is what has led a lot of people to assume 130 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: that maybe Shanni had shut down her account and didn't 131 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: want anything to do with social media anymore. It's clear 132 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: that she does want a lot of privacy and she 133 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: doesn't want to open up about things like relationships or 134 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: her personal life. Well, that being said, I feel like 135 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: she has turned a lot of her attention onto TikTok 136 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: because she has been posting some daily vlogs on there 137 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: and she's managed to grow her following to over four 138 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty thousand. I think for her, because her 139 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: business is such a focus, she has sort of steered 140 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: away from YouTube content, which takes a lot of time 141 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: to film, and she's opted for sharing content that's a 142 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: bit easier to make on Instagram and also on TikTok. Well, 143 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: I feel like that's where the gen Zetas are as 144 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: well TikTok, and if it's easier to make content in 145 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: shorter forms like that, I think that is quite a 146 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: clever business strategy. Now, if Shanny's unable to get access 147 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: back to her account, what kind of impact do you 148 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: think this is going to have on her career. 149 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 3: Oh, it's a. 150 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: Huge impact over the festive period that's going to be 151 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: mad for her. I'm sure that her talent agencies have 152 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: already locked in work for her over this period and 153 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: expect her to be posting Reel's Instagram stories and also 154 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: feed posts, not to mention for her business, Silk Swim, 155 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: because the majority of her customers would be coming from 156 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: her own page. So it's going to be huge, particularly 157 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: over the boxing day of sales as she's not able 158 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: to spreak and at summer, the busiest time of the 159 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: year for her swimming brand. Well, on the fifth of December, 160 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: Shiny posted in a TikTok video that she was filming 161 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: sponsored content for Mac also a jewelry line, and also 162 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: for Silk Swim. 163 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: So it's clear that. 164 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,559 Speaker 1: Despite not being as active on social media, she still 165 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: makes a large amount of revenue off her Instagram account. 166 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: I think if she can't get back in, this is 167 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: going to potentially cost her millions of dollars. Well, you 168 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: think back to twenty sixteen, which was really the time 169 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: when she was at the top of the influencer world. 170 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: Fast forward six years and she only has gained four 171 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: hundred thousand followers. Yes, in the scheme of things, that 172 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: sounds like a large number, but she hasn't had that continual. 173 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: Why my friends and I only take our flip phones out, 174 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: We don't take our regular phones out anymore. 175 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: Flip phones are back in vogue, according to one TikToker, 176 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: who revealed she exclusively uses them on nights out now. 177 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 3: So if you should I be getting my Motorola back out. 178 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: Well, only if you want to be fitting in with 179 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: the gen zetters. And I just think this is wild 180 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: because they're practically copying everything that was cool when we 181 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: were all eighteen, And doesn't that mean that us thirty 182 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: year olds are the real transsettors here. So a TikTok 183 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: user by the name of Sammy went viral when she 184 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: posted a video explaining why she uses a flip phone 185 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: instead of a smartphone on a night out. So this 186 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: video has now clocked up over nine million views. And 187 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: she said that the idea of bringing out a flip 188 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: phone was inspired by a friend who never takes her 189 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: phone on nights out with her. And she said that 190 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: this friend is always very present in the moment and 191 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: makes heaps of new friends when she's out clubbing. So 192 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: Sammy said she came to the realization that a smartphone 193 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: was causing her so much trouble on a night out. 194 00:07:58,400 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 3: Here's what she said. 195 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: We realize that every single problem that we have on 196 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: a night out, everything that leads to us crying, everything 197 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 2: that leads to us having a bad hook up, everything 198 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: that leads to us having a bad time, stems from 199 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: our phone while we're out. One of our friends doesn't 200 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: get on her phone at all when she's out, and 201 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: she has a wonderful time every single time. So we 202 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: were like, wait, this eliminates accidental drunk posts, eliminates drunks texts, 203 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: eliminates bad hookups like it eliminates all of the bad 204 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: things about college and brings all of the good things 205 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: about a phone, which is like connecting with people. 206 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: So Sammy and her friends have made the switch to 207 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: the Humble flip phone, and according to them, the photos 208 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: are absolute fire on the phone. 209 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: Here's what she said, taking photos and videos like the 210 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: photos and videos on this are fire fire, And I. 211 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: That makes me think, what happened to all the photos 212 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: on my motoroller? I mean it probably held like ten 213 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: so there's probably not many missing. 214 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 3: I reckon. 215 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: I actually somehow save mine and some of them are 216 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: uploaded to Facebook, all in albums that are now. Yes, 217 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: the thing is, where are they getting these flip phones? 218 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: Is it on eBay or something? I don't know, but 219 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: I reckon there's going to be a market for them soon. 220 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: Going back to parents, going back to the photos, I 221 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: don't buy that these photos are fire. Is it because 222 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: it's kind of cool now to have shit looking photos 223 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: that are all grainy? It's because the new iPhones are 224 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: almost too sharp. 225 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 226 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: And you know when you go back and you look 227 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: at photos that were taking on like print cameras, and 228 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: everybody looks so so fied. Yeah, you don't want that 229 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: high resolution, especially on a night out if you're using 230 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: the flash as well. And my favorite part of this 231 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: video is when Sammy explains that the best part of 232 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: the flip phone on a night out is that you 233 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: can call people. 234 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 3: Here's what she said. 235 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: I love just calling people when I'm out. Like the 236 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: other day, my roommate was home and I was out 237 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: and I just called her because I was like, you 238 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 2: love this song, and the song is playing and she's like, 239 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 2: that was literally my favorite thing that you called me. 240 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: I just love how jen Zettas think it's so revolutionary 241 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: that you can actually ring someone on flip phone. It's 242 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: like they don't realize that you can ring people on 243 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: a smartphone, yeah, because everyone just wants to text. The 244 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: thing I find ironic is when we were out partying 245 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: and I use that term loosely because I don't really 246 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: party that much, but we would bring our flip phones, 247 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 1: but also our pink cameras digital camera cameras. Keep saying 248 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: that meme do the rounds where it's like if you 249 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: had this camera, yeah, I. 250 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 3: Cream right, I'm sorry. 251 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: Next year, all the jen Zetas will have their different 252 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: colorful cameras out I totally will. But it's funny that 253 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: this TikTok has gone viral because I heard recent interview 254 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: with Paris Hilton and she was saying how smartphones have 255 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: ruined the clubbing experience. 256 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 3: So she said that, you know. 257 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: Like you used to be able to go out and 258 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: actually have a really good time, but now she's always 259 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: fearful that people will film her, and she said that 260 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: that's completely ruined the club. 261 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 262 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: Well, I get where the girl's coming from as well, 263 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: because I can imagine as a teenager in your early twenties, 264 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: if you're if you've got your phone there and you're drunk, 265 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: you're going to be making some horrendous Instagram stories trying 266 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: to make people jealous or filming people hooking. 267 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 3: Up with people. 268 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: It's probably a good idea, and it actually makes me 269 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: want to get my flip phone out. I think Sammy 270 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: is going to get the most drunk because she's in 271 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: her filmy hothouse. 272 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 4: Sara, Yes, I am, because my dad raised me that way. 273 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: It's been a busy week in the love lives of 274 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: Ossie influencers, with many on again, off again couples spotted 275 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: together during the silly season. Now I think it comes 276 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 1: as no surprise that Sammy Robinson and Jordan Simmy are 277 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: back together again. I'm so disappointed about this one. So 278 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: a month after Cartia Milan confirmed on TikTok the Sammy 279 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: Robinson was entering her single girl era, it appears that 280 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: she is back on again with ex boyfriend Jordan Simmy. 281 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: And if you do cast your minds back to that video, 282 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: Sammy was out to dinner with a bunch of her 283 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: influencer friends, including Katier, Jardi Tunci and bell At Valaras. 284 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: So in the video, they all said that Sammy would 285 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: be getting the drunkest because she's single. And then in 286 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: that video, Cartier was begging Sammy to let her reveal 287 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: what was going on, and basically she was inferring that 288 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: Jordan had been a complete dicket and had done something 289 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: wrong and they wanted to expose it. So if you 290 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: fast forward a month, Sammy and Jordan are now at 291 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 1: Bella Valaras's party. I wonder if this is awkward for them. 292 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: I love how Sammy never shows him in the videos. 293 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 1: And he then had to post a video up and 294 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: he did a panning shot of his friend playing pool 295 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: and you could see a couple of the girls that 296 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: were at Bella's party, and then he has to write 297 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: on it Bella's party, just to make it clear that 298 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: he was there. What's happened with French Toaster? She back 299 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: in France? Well, I wonder how Look, she is still 300 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: in Sydney at the moment, so I don't know what 301 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: is going on there. She's Toast happened? I mean, do 302 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: you think that maybe they're meant to beat again? 303 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 3: Do you think we're only seeing the negative? So he 304 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 3: thought it. 305 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: He is a bad boy that is going to be 306 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: in and out of a relationship with Sammy until she 307 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: realizes her self worth Now. In the worst Kepe secret 308 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: of our time, Madison Woolly has been spotted at another 309 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: Christmas party with ex boyfriend Jonathan Sour now Madison Woolly's 310 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: friend Grace Beverly, who has one million followers on Instagram 311 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: out of the couple. So in the photo, Madison was 312 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: posing in Christmas sunglasses and Jonathan was sat next to her, 313 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: deep in conversation with someone across the table. 314 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 3: And it was quite hilarious because he was wearing this. 315 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: Bright flute wrote orange shirt. It was almost as though 316 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: he wanted to be noticed. It's like the man in 317 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: the mirror situation, and I feel like man in the 318 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: background of a verb. Well. I noticed earlier in the 319 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: week that it was quite clear that Jonathan was out 320 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: to dinner with Madison because her hand was in the 321 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: background with bright red nails, and she was wearing bright 322 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: red nails in her photos. 323 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:20,599 Speaker 3: So they're not trying to hide it. 324 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: Well, I think that they are, because Madison was tagged 325 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: in this photo with Jonathan in the background, and she 326 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: didn't reshare it yet she reshared all of the other 327 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: photos and videos from the night. So the question begs, 328 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: why is she trying to keep this under wraps? Is 329 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: it because she's embarrassed to have taken him back for 330 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: a third time, or is it because she isn't. 331 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 3: Really sure on the relationship. 332 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: I think once you've put your relationship out to the 333 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: media like she has in terms of she filmed so 334 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: many YouTube video like couply YouTube videos with him, she's 335 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: probably trying to keep her under wraps until she knows 336 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: exactly what's going on, which I think would be a 337 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: more mature way to go about it. But if you're 338 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: going to be appearing in photos with him, that your 339 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: friends are posting. I think she should come out and 340 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: just say it to her followers, particularly when she's running 341 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: a podcast that's meant to be about out dating in life, 342 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: as I think that they feel very out of the 343 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: loop and I think it is something that her followers 344 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: genuinely want to know about. It's a bit orkies, especially 345 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: after she shit can him and said how she threw 346 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: his hair strainer. 347 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 2: Over a. 348 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 3: Hair sorry, a hairdryer. 349 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: I know. Now this is some lovely news. Nadia Bartel 350 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: has soft launched her new boyfriend and that's almost a 351 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: year after the paparazzi snapped a photo of the couple 352 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: in a Melbourne alleyway. 353 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 3: So that sounds rather dodgy, Yeah, definitely. 354 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: Now, Nadia's new partner is a former footballer as well 355 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: and a model. So his name is Peter Doug Moore 356 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: and he is also a sales director for a sporting 357 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: goods company and on Instagram he lists his interest as 358 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: Jim and property. So they sound pretty well suited, don't they. Yeah, 359 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: it was pretty gross because the Daily Mail described this 360 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: soft launch photo as a very hot and heavy photo, 361 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: which is a bit of a stretch because in the 362 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: Instagram photo. It's this really cool, nonchalant photo of the 363 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: as they're sitting at a group dinner together and Nadia 364 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: is leaning close and she has her hand in his lap. 365 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: I mean, i'd hardly call it hot and heavy. Oh, 366 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: very scandalous. Now it is the first time that Nadia 367 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: has posted about Peter. Now. She did separate from her 368 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: ex husband Jimmy Bartel back in August twenty nineteen, which 369 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: seems like a very long time ago now. They split 370 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: after rumors of an affair started circulating when Jimmy quickly 371 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: started dating Melbourne socialite Lauren Brand. Well, I'm really happy 372 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: for Nadia that she's found love, especially so close to Christmas. Yeah, 373 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: it's well, they've been going out for a year, but 374 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: today I was like, we're going because you're at holidays, 375 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: we're newly married, we're doing it. 376 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 3: So we're going to the gym together this one and 377 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 3: I'm humped. 378 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: Over the weekend, Leah had Seenas married her long term 379 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: partner Mitch in an intimate ceremony in their backyard. Now, 380 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: this wasn't a typical backyard wedding though. Okay, yes, that's right. 381 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: The couple have a very nice backyard and with the 382 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: help of Adelaide's best wedding stylists, they transformed it into 383 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: absolute wedding goals. So the theme was white wedding, so 384 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: I loved it. All the guests were wearing white, and 385 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: Mitch was the only one to deviate from the theme 386 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: wearing a black tuxedo. Now, the wedding was very intimate. 387 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: Leah and Mitch only invited their closest friends and family, 388 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: so the table was set for twenty six people, which 389 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: I think for a Greek wedding was very small if 390 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: you think about it. And they had this beautiful marquise 391 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: sat up in the backyard with gold fairy lights. I 392 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: just absolutely loved the styling. It was all very simplistic 393 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: and elegant. I always think that an all white party 394 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: looks amazing like this looked incredible. Day even made me think, 395 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, maybe I should do. 396 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 3: A backyard wedding. 397 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: You don't let Dale hear say that. Do you think 398 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: that everyone wearing white, though, takes away from the bride 399 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: at all? 400 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 401 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: I think it's very on trend for brides to have 402 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: their bridesmaids in white. I think it looked beautiful and 403 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: you can always tell who the bride is, generally they're 404 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: wearing a veil. I also loved it because gg Lea's 405 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: daughter and then Kayla's daughter Anna were in the wedding 406 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: and they were wearing these cute white dresses. It was 407 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: making me very excited for my own wedding, not that 408 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: actually have any children in attendance. It did look like 409 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: a very relaxed day though, because Leah shared in the 410 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: morning how she'd gone to the gym and she was 411 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: feeding her daughter Gigi later in the day, And I 412 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: feel like so many people have their weddings and it's 413 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: for everybody else and they don't actually have a good time. 414 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: They don't have a chance to sit and actually enjoy it. Yeah, well, 415 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: Leah looked like she had a very good time. She 416 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: actually ended up sharing a video of her trying to 417 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: snorkel a vodka cruzer at the wedding. So she said 418 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: she doesn't normally drink, but she thought she'd join in 419 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: and try at the wedding. 420 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 3: What do you mean snorkel? 421 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: So there was like a kind of snorkel piece and 422 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: she was kind of like trying to chug it back 423 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: and the result was pretty hilarious because she ended up 424 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: spitting the vodka cruiser everywhere, and she said she's going 425 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: to stick with her Cocono sugars with a slice of lemon. Now, 426 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: if anyone can't tell, we are recording this with no 427 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: air conditioning on it's thirty four degrees. 428 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 3: I could go a coke zero thirty four today. 429 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: Yes, And he's literally sitting here in a Christmas jomb Well, 430 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: it always gets. It's really cool in my head. 431 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 3: It's whole. We have no air conditioning, it's whole. I'm 432 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 3: sweating my ass off it. 433 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: Anyway, we do have a conditioning, it's in the shed 434 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: though that's not helpful. Well, back to Leah and Mitch, 435 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: they definitely seem to have a beautiful day. Leah said 436 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: it was so perfect. I'm so grateful for all the 437 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: well wishes and congratulations. It means the absolute world. I 438 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: had the best time yesterday and was so perfect for us. 439 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: Simple ceremony and epic dinner and just celebrating small with 440 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: those around us. Mitch also put a post up saying 441 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,239 Speaker 1: married my best friend and soul mate yesterday. It's an 442 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: honor to call you my wife. Now I feel like 443 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: we are going to be watching the Issina's family closely 444 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: because Kayla only has two weeks to go before she 445 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: gives birth to her second baby. 446 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 3: It shocked me. 447 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's I think she said she's thirty seven weeks pregnant. 448 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: For thirty eight weeks pregnant. Wow, well that's so exciting. 449 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,479 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see the name they pick. I know, well, 450 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: they seemed very unsure of what they were actually going 451 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: to choose, and they kept putting poles out to her followers. 452 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 5: So any of you are looking for any blastmithted gift 453 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 5: ideas for me? 454 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 4: I have one. 455 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 5: I like Frank Shirley, my boss, right here tonight. I 456 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 5: brought from happy holiday slumber over there a melody lane 457 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 5: with all the other rich people, and I want to 458 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 5: brought right here with a big ribbon on his head, 459 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 5: and I want to look him straight in the eye, 460 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 5: and I. 461 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 4: Want to tell him what a cheap, lying, no good 462 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 4: rotten for a flushing low life snake licking dirt eating 463 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 4: and bread over stuff, ignorant, blood sucking, dog kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, 464 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 4: fat ass, bug eyed stiff leg it's buddy lip wear 465 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 4: him headed sack of monkey shit. He is he he lojah, 466 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 4: holy shit. 467 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: A tweet asking men what they want for Christmas has 468 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: gone viral and just a clue it's not socks and 469 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: jocks before we reveal the answers. Do you guys find 470 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: it hard shopping for your partners? Oh my gosh. It's 471 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: the bane of my existence at the moment, Christmas shopping. 472 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: And it's funny because I do love it, but I 473 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: find it so stressful because I do really think women 474 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: have the mental load at Christmas time. And for me, 475 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: Reese's birthday is eleven days out from Christmas, so I 476 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: have to go through the challenge of coming up with 477 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: a good idea for hisuis Birthday present, then is Christmas present, 478 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: and then all the other family members ask me what 479 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: they should get Raese for these two occasions as well, 480 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: So I'm running out of ideas. At the moment. I've 481 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: got the same issue because Dale's birthday is mid January, 482 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: and at the moment, I've got the perfect Christmas present 483 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: for him, but I'm trying to manipulate him into thinking 484 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: I've brought him something else, so I know he won't 485 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: listen to this. I've basically wrapped up this big box 486 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:25,719 Speaker 1: to throw him off the scent of what I've got, 487 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: has a bot's got anything in it? Or is it 488 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: just it. 489 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 3: Has the president? But it's not representative of the size 490 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 3: of the present. 491 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: And I think the hard thing is you kind of 492 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: come up with a big, main present and then you 493 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: kind of want to be like, can this go across 494 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,719 Speaker 1: both celebrations? And I feel like if your birthday was 495 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: near Christmas, you would hate that. Yeah, exactly what about you? 496 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: So No, I actually find it very easy to shop 497 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: for brand and he drops a lot of clues and 498 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: he generally has a list going, so it's. 499 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 3: Not too difficult. 500 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: You're lucky because Race always says to me, I don't 501 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: want or need anything. I'm like, what am I supposed 502 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: to do? 503 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: Now? 504 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: Back to this tweet. So, a woman called Rosemary car 505 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: tweeted men every list says you want beard oil, a 506 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: pocket knife or something leather? What do you actually want now? 507 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: The tweet has been liked over thirty nine thousand times 508 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: and has five thousand replies. However, I feel like the 509 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: replies have created further confusion, and I feel like they're 510 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: very skewed to American men. So one user wrote, if 511 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: it's a heteronormative, masculine, stereotypical guy. Just go down the 512 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: camping aisle at Walmart and pick something. If he doesn't 513 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: own a machete, that's a good bet. Probably won't use 514 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: it much, but with one of his favorite gifts of 515 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: all time, ten out of ten can you buy? So 516 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: you can just go and buy a machete? And well 517 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: you can buy guns. Yeah. 518 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: Well. 519 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: On a similar theme, one other guy wrote knives, hatchets, machetes, guns, Ammo, 520 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 1: twenty pounds, rebuy steaks, just freezer, power tools, propane and 521 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: propane accessories and I don't actually know what propane is. 522 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: I was just waiting for someone to say a blowjob, 523 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: because isn't that always the rest in these gross tweet Well, 524 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: it seems to be pretty on theme. Another person wrote 525 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: a super cool laser heat sensor gun is always a 526 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: solid choice. Okay, So, ladies, if you're at home and 527 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: you've bought your husband a knife or a gun for Christmas, 528 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: apparently you've done the right thing. So I don't think 529 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: i'd want to date someone who wants a knife or 530 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,959 Speaker 1: a gun for Christmas. Someone else wrote a mechanical keyboard 531 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: with the best sounding keys ever, and I was like, 532 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: that's pretty obscure. But apparently that's for the gamers our gosh, 533 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: So maybe something for race because so another user said 534 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: he wouldn't mind getting Dorito's, burger Rings and Fanta for Christmas. 535 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: I mean, that's easy on the budget. I don't think 536 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: that food is a Christmas present. 537 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 3: Unpopular opinion there. 538 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: I know people give boxes of chocolates, but if I 539 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: unwrapped a bag of Dorito's or Burgerings as a present, 540 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,239 Speaker 1: I would think that was super stingy. What's funny you 541 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: say that, Sophie, Because I was watching Rachel Catherine's YouTube 542 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: video this week and she is a Brisbane influencer who 543 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: describes herself as a wholesome influencer, and she's got two 544 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five thousand YouTube subscribers and around forty 545 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: thousand on Instagram. Now, she took viewers on a journey 546 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: as she packed her husband's Christmas stocking. Her husband's sake, 547 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: I'm hoping this Santa sack is just the side gifts 548 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: and he's getting a more exciting main present. So Rachel 549 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: explained that her husband hates surprises and she usually fills 550 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: the stocking with boring and useful things. Now, if you 551 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: are Rachel's husband, Liam, please don't listen any further, as 552 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to list the stockings contents and see what 553 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: you guys think of this. So she put in the 554 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,959 Speaker 1: stocking extra chewing gum, hydro light because apparently he likes drinking. 555 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: That's that's what you have when you hungover, I know, 556 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: but she said he just likes drinking. It a card game, 557 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 1: a pack of pens, lint roll refills, socks for work, 558 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: a bag of party mixed lollies, and a pack of 559 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: washing up head Rey. First, this is great because I 560 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: was actually thinking of wrapping something up, really disappointing for 561 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: Dale to so he'd be like, oh, this all she 562 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: got me, and now I've got a great sacrifice, did 563 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: you hope? So main obviously we're just having fun with this. 564 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: I'll have to watch this vlog with Brandon so that 565 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: he sees how good my presence. 566 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 3: Remember though, we. 567 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: Had Victoria Devine on the podcast. I think it was 568 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: two Christmases ago, and she was talking about if you're 569 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: in a relationship and maybe your financial goals. You're aiming 570 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: to buy a house, and you've decided Okay, we're only 571 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: going to be buying each other, say twenty dollars worth 572 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: of presents or fifty dollars a presents or whatever. This 573 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: might be one of those scenarios where she's actually gone 574 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: and bought his favorite things. 575 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 3: So yeah, kind of sweet if that's if you've decided. 576 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: Not to get presents, and a lot of people actually say, 577 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: let's not waste our money. Oh definitely if this is 578 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: a budgeting thing. I mean, I don't know if his 579 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: favorite things would be linn rollers and washing up heads. 580 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: I think that she has gone down the path of 581 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: being very practical. And the thing is, I think it's 582 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: so different to the way I go Christmas shopping, because 583 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm someone that personally likes to get presents that people 584 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't normally buy themselves. What do you guys think It's 585 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: funny you say that because I was watching one of 586 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: Anna Paul's recent vlogs on TikTok and she was saying 587 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: that she can't stop buying a new group of friends presents. 588 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: So she's recently made a new group of girlfriends, and 589 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: she said every time she goes online, she sees something 590 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 1: she wants to buy for them, but she doesn't want 591 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: to make them feel uncomfortable. That is financial freedom at 592 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: its finest, just being like I can't non stop buying 593 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: people gives. She even wanted to buy one of the 594 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: girl's mums a present because they were doing friendness and 595 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: the mum was going to be there. But she's like, 596 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: is that just weird? That's because women are so much 597 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 1: easier to buy for. The thing is I can understand 598 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: where she's coming from because if I was friends with 599 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: Anna Paul and she bought me all these really extravagant gifts, 600 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm the sort of person that would want to pay 601 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: her back in terms of getting her gifts at a 602 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: similar cost. But because she's so wealthy, it would be 603 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: really hard to match her gifts. Well, she was actually saying, 604 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: She's like, I actually just literally love buying people gifts. 605 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: She's like, I don't want anything back. She's like, I've 606 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: been given this money, so I just want to give 607 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: give gift. That's why I think you can never really 608 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: become friends with ultra big celebrities, Like that's why our 609 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: friendship with Taylor Swift's not gonna work, because you would 610 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: almost it would get to the point where you felt 611 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: like they were paying to be your friend. Well, I 612 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: think that's all we've got time for today. Thank you 613 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: so much for listening to another episode of Outspoken. Today's 614 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: episode was recorded on the traditional land of the Ghana 615 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: people of the Adelaide Plains. 616 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 3: We pay respect to elders past and present. 617 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: If you have enjoyed today's show, could you please make 618 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: sure you follow us on Spotify and also Apple podcast 619 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: and mention it to a friend. I saw in one 620 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: of our comments that someone suggested our podcast at a 621 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: Christmas party. 622 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 3: In that really warm my heart. 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