1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda's Well. 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 2: Our next guest is the hilarious comedian who isn't just 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 2: a favorite at comedy festivals. He's appeared on The Cone 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: and O'Brian show, he's been nabbed by the BBC, and 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: now he's spreading his TV wings even further. He's joining 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: the cast of judges on RuPaul's Drag Race down under 7 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 2: Rhys Nicholson High. 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: Good morning everyone. 9 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 3: They would be fabulous TV wings too. I would imagine. 10 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 4: Oh, they're beautiful, they're gold, they're crystal encrusted, they're quite 11 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 4: they're too heavy to be wings. 12 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: Actually, they don't work with wings very well. 13 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: Victorious secret of the Rue Paul Dragon. 14 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 4: Yes, people have often said that about me. I'm a 15 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 4: Victoria's Secret model of comedy. 16 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: This is a I don't make you nervous. This is 17 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 2: a massive gig and a much loved and much desired gig. 18 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: I imagine how'd you feel when you got it? 19 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was bonkers like it is. 20 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 4: And that's the word I keep you sing every time 21 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 4: I can ask about because it was like I you know, 22 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 4: we know in the business sometimes you hear word You 23 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 4: might be on a very long list of some thing 24 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 4: and my agent hearing that words work don't hold your breath, 25 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 4: so you know that. And then on a Sunday morning 26 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 4: before nine am, I got a call from her, which 27 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 4: usually if you get called by your agent at that time, 28 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 4: usually it's like, oh, they've found the tweets. 29 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: I've been canceled. 30 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 3: You've seen the front page of the paper. 31 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like maybe maybe pop down to the newsagent 32 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 4: this morning or don't. But no she called to say that, yeah, 33 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 4: I'd been picked to do it. RuPaul had seen me 34 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 4: do comedy and he picked me specifically out of the 35 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 4: big list. I thought it was a mean prank. And 36 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 4: then a few weeks later I was sitting next to 37 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 4: him on the Bloody panel Wow talking about Drag. It 38 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 4: is like, it's so because I'm obsessed with the show. 39 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 4: Like it's not often you get to do work you 40 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 4: really believe in sometimes this business. It's like, yeah, I'm 41 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 4: doing this, but no, it is something I've been obsessed 42 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 4: with for you know, the better part of a decade. 43 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 4: And then I was like, the weirdest moment of my 44 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 4: life so far was walking in the studio And if 45 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 4: you've watched the show before, you know there's it's got 46 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 4: a very particular looking set. I sat down and I 47 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 4: looked at a monitor, and I was sitting at the 48 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 4: desk like I was sitting there like in a nice suit, 49 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 4: and I just couldn't I couldn't believe it. 50 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: I still can't believe it. 51 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 3: And when you look at the premises the show, it's 52 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 3: a crazy show, isn't it. Really? You know, twenty years 53 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 3: ago this show, you wouldn't have imagined that there would be 54 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: a show like this on TV NO. 55 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 4: And I think because you know, on the surface, it's 56 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 4: a competition reality show about drag queens. You kind of 57 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 4: the concept of it is that kind of run of 58 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 4: the mill, you know, America's Next not Bottle kind of. 59 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: Show, but it is. 60 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 4: I think what makes it work and what makes it 61 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 4: has kind of outlasted all those a lot of those shows. 62 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: Is because it's it's about more than that. 63 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 4: It's kind of about people being there, true and authentic 64 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 4: selves and all those types of things, Like it is 65 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 4: just so undeniably watchable and undeniably like I've had some 66 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 4: of my biggest cries watching this show because you're really 67 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 4: learning about people. And I also think like as a comedian, 68 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 4: and I think you both were kind of like I 69 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 4: think everyone kind of in show business. I think no one, 70 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 4: no one gets into this business because everything's gone right 71 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 4: in their lives leading up into that, you know, I 72 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 4: mean there's kind of you strive, like you want to 73 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 4: be able to, you know, tell your story and all 74 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 4: that kind of stuff, and I think drag is no 75 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 4: different to that. 76 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: And there are just some incredible stories in our season. 77 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: And do you know much about drag? Like where is 78 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: it something that you know? 79 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 80 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 4: Absolutely, I've been into drag for a long long time. 81 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 4: I wanted to do it when I was six, I 82 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 4: was sitting at a dinner. I think I'd seen some 83 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 4: of Priscilla, but not the bits that a six year 84 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 4: old shouldn't see. I think my mum had maybe kind 85 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 4: of shown me like the you know, the the hugo 86 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 4: weaving and drag kind of part. 87 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: And I remember asking you, like, what is this or she. 88 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 4: Reminded me of this recently and she said, oh, like 89 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 4: these are drag queens. And I didn't understand what it was. 90 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 4: I just thought, oh, these like you can be anything, 91 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 4: like you can be a man or a woman or whatever. 92 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 4: And so we were at a dinner party and someone 93 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 4: didn't standard, as the six year old what they want 94 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 4: to be when they grew up, and I said, very confidently, 95 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 4: a drag queen. 96 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: And so that's and it's all been, And I kind 97 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: of do. I don't. 98 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 4: I would never say that I do drag even close 99 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 4: to it. But I wear a lot of makeup on stage. 100 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 4: I wear nail pop. I like to my stand up 101 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,559 Speaker 4: is kind of a if you've seen it before. 102 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm playing a kind of character which 103 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: I think everyone kind of yea. 104 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 2: And this is the first time the show has had 105 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: a local franchise, so that's pretty exciting. 106 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god, bonkers. 107 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 4: Like the first thing Ripaul said to me was welcome 108 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 4: to the family. And I think that it does kind 109 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 4: of feel that way, like Australia is now part of 110 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 4: this kind of juggernaut, this cultural juggernaut, and they were 111 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 4: really excited to make it. 112 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: Like I think we do a very particular. 113 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 4: Thing here when it comes to drag, like bring up 114 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 4: Priscilla again, we do like a very camp A lot 115 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 4: of this is a broad generalization, but a lot of 116 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 4: drag around the world is kind of could be boiled 117 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 4: down to there's a lot of female impersonation out there, 118 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 4: like it's just kind of, oh, that person looks exactly 119 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 4: like Beyonce and their lips thinking perfectly to a Beyonce. 120 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 4: But I think we do a particular thing here that's 121 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 4: very camp and very funny, and everything is dipped in 122 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 4: like so many references and things, and a lot of 123 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 4: the queens that we have here are like intricate kind 124 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 4: of you know. And yeah, another example is like the 125 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 4: thong dress in Priscilla is a perfect example. 126 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: Of what we do. 127 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: And the hilarious names for the drag queens, I think 128 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 2: that might be various trailing. 129 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 3: It's so quirky. 130 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, have you ever thought about what your drag 131 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: name would be? 132 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 3: Amanda has a list as long as you're. 133 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: Are, I know, I'm trying. 134 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: Amanda is a good start. 135 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. 136 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, you did have diabetes, that's true. 137 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: You like diabetes, that's good. 138 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 4: I've always thought mine would be diner hunger. Yes. 139 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 140 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 2: Oh well, look, I can't wait to see this show. 141 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 2: And Reese a big fan of yours, and this is 142 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: just wonderful that you're part of. 143 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 3: All this, and those ginormous TV wings that you've got. 144 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, heavy wings, they're not made of wax. 145 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: I don't want to see you be a nicrous type, 146 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: don't want to fly to you. 147 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: You'd be licorice. 148 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 4: That would be your that would be your drag now 149 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 4: or other things that run with that RuPaul's Drag Raced 150 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 4: down Under is coming soon to Stan Reys Nicholson. 151 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us. 152 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: Thanks very much. Happy Mardi Gral, Thank you, Jonesy and 153 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: Amanda's Gamation