WEBVTT - AUBREY HAIVE GETS SHADY OVER RUPAUL'S DOWN UNDER! 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.720 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:05.360 TV Reload the podcast last week Airline. Welcome back to 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:08.520 TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris and on this podcast 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:11.920 I go behind the scenes with the biggest players in television. 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:15.080 Each episode you will get a front row seat with 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:20.120 content makers like executive producers, writers, editors and casting agents, 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:23.840 plus the talent we see on our screens. TV Reload 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:27.040 reloads the shows that you're currently watching and gives you 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:31.600 a better insight into our television industry and our streaming services. 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:34.200 Today on the podcast, I have the latest eliminated queen 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:37.760 from Rupoul's Drag Race down Under series two. It's Aubrey Have. 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:41.400 The very talented contestant swapped New Zealand for Melbourne a 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:44.320 few years back and found a passion for dragt during 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:49.159 the pandemic, and this rise to success has been quite fast. However, 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:52.000 she has found herself on the latest series of the 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:56.240 popular franchise RuPaul's Drag Race. Wow. There has been plenty 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:59.160 of drama in the series so far and plenty of 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.600 talented queens, with fans noticing a huge improvement in this 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:06.720 second series. However, the pressure has been noticed right across 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:09.200 the board, and like today's guest, a few of the 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:13.040 contestants have gotten inside their heads with a shock exit 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:17.760 in Aubrey, leaving fans absolutely gagged. We will talk about 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:20.319 that moment. It all came crumbling down, some of the 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:23.720 drama happening at the hands of Minnie Cooper, who she'd 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:25.959 like to see in the next series if there's a 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:29.560 series three, and some shady answers that will have you shook. 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:32.679 So let's get started with today's guest. I'd like to 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:35.040 welcome Aubrey. Have to TV reload. 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:41.880 At times it felt a little bit gas lighting previously 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:43.360 on RuPaul's Drag Race. 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:48.680 Down Under and maybe young, but I've got something to prove, ladies. 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:55.800 Welcome to the Alte No Shade pageant. That was one intentional. 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:58.960 Abrey Hays, Umbury Hay. 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:02.920 The drag here in Melbourne is incredible and I really 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:04.800 hope that we get to see more of it. 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:10.079 You are a young and talented queen and I cannot 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:11.560 wait to see what. 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:12.360 You do next. 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:15.320 I really had nothing to lose and only a shit 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:16.000 tone to gain. 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:17.720 Hi there, how are you. 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:19.799 I'm good? How are you? 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:23.079 I'm doing really well? I should probably say get a 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:25.720 good A good a right, Yeah, And there are a 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:29.079 few australianisms and New zealandisms that sort of cross over 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:31.959 the seas I ever used in New Zealand because I 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.079 know that you're from New Zealand but now living in Melbourne. 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:36.200 But is that something that is used in New Zealand. 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:37.359 Yeah, I think so. 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:40.040 I've definitely said get a a few times in a 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:41.320 little old New Zealand there. 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:43.880 Yeah, I just need to jump in and say something. 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:46.880 I really thought that you were brilliant. I really thought 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:50.399 that you seemed polished, professional, as a package deal, someone 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:53.720 who could really even compete in the original US series. 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:54.720 I stop there. 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:58.000 It's so true though, Like I just thought you're aesthetic. 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.200 It was making me think of of Art Simone, but 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:03.840 also making me think of Courtney Acting. I just thought 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:06.239 that you had a really polished look and something to 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:07.000 be very proud of. 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:08.440 Oh, thank you so much. 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:11.320 Yeah, no, I look, I work pretty hard on making sure, 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:13.760 you know, all of my stuff was really put together. 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:18.000 I'm a virgo, so I like overthink everything to the 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:21.280 point where it's you know, almost insane. But I think 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:24.400 part of that yeah, energy and actually Art Simone is 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:26.919 also a verger. I wonder if Courtney is too, so 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:29.160 I think it comes with that sort of territory of 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:32.120 just being a little bit of a perfectionist. You know 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:35.000 that I deeply care about all of that stuff, so 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:38.840 to make sure everything, all my details are very very defined. 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:43.600 Well, when your outfit didn't work well on the catwalk, 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:47.280 I felt devastated for you, and like I actually because 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:48.960 I had the luxury of watching it, I could quickly 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.080 rewind it. I actually watch it again because it was 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:53.280 it was just a very quick moment of not being 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.160 able to get this little part out. Up until that point, 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:58.440 I just didn't think that it was ever a chance 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:00.280 of you going home. Did you think that you go 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.600 home or feel devastated at that point? Oh? 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:06.640 Yeah, yeah, I was pretty devastated after that runway. I 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:10.520 just I was annoyed because I we do everything so 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:13.760 quickly for the show, and I just didn't get time 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:17.000 to like practice that reveal. And also the reveal is 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.000 so hard to sort of have to roll the wings 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:21.760 all the way back up and get them all ready, 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.520 and it takes bloody ages to do so I just 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:27.760 hadn't even really had a chance to even think about 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:29.880 any of that and then you know the runways happening 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:30.320 and you're like. 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:31.960 Oh shit, oh my god, I've got to do all 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:32.599 this stuff. 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.360 And I wanted to make a you know, tell a 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:38.320 story and have a real spectacle sort of happen on stage. 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:41.520 As a newer queen, sometimes I do get sort of 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.040 trapped in that idea that I need to really prove 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:46.800 myself as like, you know, I may be young, but 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.880 I've got something to prove. And so I did try 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:52.480 to do the absolute most and unfortunately it sort of 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:55.000 let me down a little bit. But yeah, I mean, 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:58.120 I will say, though they played it off as the bag, 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:00.920 you know, the grubs falling up the bag was it 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:03.520 was a mistake that was one hundred percent intentional. 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:05.320 It was all different. 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:07.520 Yeah, no, it's a few people have been a bit like, oh, 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:09.680 is that meant to happen? That definitely meant to happen. 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:12.040 The only thing that really wasn't meant to happen is that, 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.040 you know, the wings were meant to just be a 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:17.120 nice seamless pull and they fall out and then they 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:20.400 look gorgeous and yeah, but unfortunately, you know, we all 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:24.560 have wardrobe malfunctions. It happens, and unfortunately it let me 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:25.479 down on this case. 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:28.480 Well, sometimes luck, chance and circumstances the real roll of 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.159 the dice when it comes to succeeding on reality shows. 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:34.240 That's how I want to see it. Of course, this 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:36.920 year feels quite different to last year. What did you 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:39.480 think or what do you think the major differences are 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:41.680 when you're comparing the two series. 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.280 I think that this cast, because it was sort of 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:48.160 we all had to audition, we the cast is more 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:50.599 sort of experience wise, is more. 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:53.960 Diverse that we've got, like you know, all the different. 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:57.520 Ages and experience and different places and things like that 0:05:57.720 --> 0:05:59.840 that we're all coming from. I think that that has 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.200 really made it a lot more fresh because you've got 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:05.400 a lot of different point of views coming into Drag 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:10.240 and you're seeing sort of the whole world of down 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.840 under a drag, I should say, which is really cool. 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.480 And on top of that, because we're all sort of 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:18.360 not I mean, a lot of the Sydney Queens knew 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.160 each other, but a lot of us didn't because we 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:23.640 were sort of all some of us were lesser known 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:26.600 than others. We when we all met each other, we 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.640 just sort of had this bond because you know, there 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.760 was no preconceived notions of who each other were, and 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.080 so we just kind of got to start fresh and 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:37.640 we all get along really, really really well, which is, 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:40.200 you know, sometimes pretty rare in the drag scene. 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:43.320 Absolutely absolutely. I mean one of the things I wanted 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:45.160 to ask you as well was was there a real 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:46.920 lack of Melbourne queens this year? 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:47.599 Yeah? 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:51.040 There really was, unfortunately, and you know I did, I 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:53.840 did feel a lot of pressure being sort of, you know, 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:55.840 starting to drag here in Melbourne. I do think of 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:59.840 myself as a Melbourne queen that grew up in Old 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:02.680 New Zealand there, which I you know, prag key we 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:05.960 of course always since I'm so pretty new to even 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:08.560 the Melbourne scene. The girls that I've met there are 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:12.240 just that they're incredible. The drag here in Melbourne is incredible, 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:14.440 and I really hope that we get to see more 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:17.800 of it if they do more seasons coming up, because yeah, 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:21.239 as much as I love the Sydney Queens, the Melbourne 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:25.000 Queens to come into drag with a slightly different perspective 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:28.400 and we're a little bit more on the sort of campy, 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:30.880 creative side at times, and that's the sort of drag 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.440 I really love. So I feel very at home in 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:37.360 Melbourne and the girls here are so supportive and so talented, 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:39.280 so I really hope we get to see more of that. 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:41.320 Who would you like to vouch for in the Drag 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:44.040 Race down onto Series three? Like, is there someone you 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:44.640 could vouch for? 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:48.720 Well, I mean, I'm definitely biased because my partner also 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:54.120 does drag and she's absolutely incredible. The hottest drag queen 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:57.640 you will find in Melbourne. I'm a very close second though. 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:01.600 So her name is Gloss and then the name fits her. 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:03.240 She's just she's gorgeous. 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:06.960 But there's there's so many. There's like Sabrina, Baby Slatin, 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:10.400 Kelly Fornicate. They are part of the jaw Breakers, like 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:14.160 a duo there, and that's freaking incredible. There's Max the 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.280 drag Queen or sorry, Max Drag Queen. Always get the 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:19.880 name wrong. She's going to read me for that, love 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:23.640 you Max, and yeah, and then the Betty Rose. There's 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:27.760 a great queen here. There's like the list would go on, Tillycapulate, 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:30.120 I could go on forever. I just have so many 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:34.160 drag sisters here that we all get along so well. 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:36.240 And as I was saying earlier, like I feel like 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:39.560 that is something that you see in down Under because 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:42.680 it's a smaller community. There's not as many queens and things. 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.440 In general, we all really do get along and sort 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:48.120 of lift each other up, which is so so lovely. 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.319 When it comes to getting in your head, you know, 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:52.760 with the pressure of this show, what could you compare 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:55.160 that to? You know, is it like when your teacher 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:57.360 at school would ask you to do the times table 0:08:57.400 --> 0:08:59.040 and you get all flustered? Or was it like going 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:01.120 for your driver's last It's like, is there anything that 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:04.079 happens in the real world that you could relate that 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:04.440 kind of. 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:05.920 Stress to going to prison? 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:08.480 Kidding? 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:13.040 Honestly, I could not say. I could not tell you 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:18.600 anything like it was the highest stress like level I've 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:21.480 ever been at in my entire life, and I couldn't. 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:24.280 I can't really compare it to anything. It's just it's 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:27.640 so crazy and like reality TV, I mean, you'll know, 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:31.240 is like it's crazy in itself. It's a very sort 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:34.360 of pressure cooker environment, and you know, for a reason 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:36.520 because it makes great TV and we love. 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:40.320 To watch it. But yeah, it really is pretty hard. 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:41.800 I mean, even the lockdowns. 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:43.920 I mean, that's a great way of looking at it 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:47.480 because you are sort of isolated outside of the show. 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:50.160 You're not really they don't really want you to talk, 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:52.319 you know, unless there's a camera in front of you. 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:55.320 So unless that camera's on, you're not You're not chatting 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:57.440 with the girls and hanging out and having a gay time. 0:09:57.559 --> 0:09:58.120 You're really not. 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.439 You're just sort of sitting there not talking to each other, 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:05.480 which is kind of Really it's like being in lockdown. 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:08.520 You just there's no one there. Really, it's both lonely 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:12.640 and extremely stressful. But then those moments that you are 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:14.640 with the girls, you know, you really do take that. 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:17.040 You take it and you use it, which is what 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:21.360 makes great TV's It's crazy. Nothing compares, to be honest. 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:24.800 Maybe going to the Olympics that might be it, because 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:26.280 it really is the drag Olympics. 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:28.520 Reality TV can be a little bit funny at times. 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.439 I mean, the drama that's happening from Minnie Cooper is 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:34.079 actually really fascinating to watch because I can't really work 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:37.480 at if she is feeling threatened by other people's behavior 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:39.800 or if she's just in her head, like whether or 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:42.240 not it's warranted her reactions to some of the things 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:42.719 that are going on. 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:45.839 Yeah, I would agree with you on that it is 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:50.480 hard to tell what's sort of going on in her mind, because, yeah, 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:52.839 even in the first episode there there was sort of 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:55.280 that age as a narrative that was being played. But 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:57.600 I have to be honest in the room, I didn't 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:00.679 really see any of that, and I saw got roped 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.640 into it, but we were only really ever talking about 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:06.360 age more on a factual base, Like it was like, Oh, 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:08.800 we're young, and you're you're the older one, like, and 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:09.920 we were like, oh, how does that? 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:10.240 You know? 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.559 I have nothing but respect for her, because you know, 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:15.800 I'm so new to this, I've only got shit to learn, 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:18.560 and she's she's a freaking pro. So I'm just watching 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:20.680 trying to figure out, you know, how to get better 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:23.280 and get to where she is. So I think she 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:26.600 sort of maybe feels a little bit threatened at times, 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:29.000 and so she's sort of taking that out in a 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.199 way that is at times. 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:34.000 It felt a little bit gas lighting, if. 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.600 I'm to be honest, in the room, and we were 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.760 sort of being made to feel like we were attacking 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:43.199 her when sometimes, honestly, I felt like we were the 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:45.959 ones being attacked. So you do get to see a 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:48.720 little bit more of that in the room in this episode, 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:52.199 which is which is good. But look, honestly, I love 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:55.599 her and she is. We're all fine and we're like 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:58.640 no one's I mean, oh, I won't speak for everyone 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:01.880 on that, but I'm fine with her one hundred percent, 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:03.959 and We've chatted it out and as you see on 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:07.160 the episode, we do chat it out and it's it's 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:09.760 really I think it is that reality TV sort of 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:13.079 environment that is making it all way more than it 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:16.040 actually is. But you know what, it's it's making good 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:17.760 TV too, So I'm not mad. 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:21.000 I think she's great television. Don't get me wrong. But 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:23.520 I love a bit of drama. I like a bit 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:25.160 of high I like it. You know what, I don't 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:28.000 mind people are mad as long as they're genuinely mad. 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:30.160 And when I say mad, like he's in angry mad, 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:32.480 but like he's in a little bit mad. That is 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:32.960 great TV. 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:34.599 You know, you get and you get a lot of 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:38.079 mad people in drag. That's that's for sure. You have 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:38.720 to be pretty. 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.319 They have to be pretty mad to be doing drag 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:43.120 in the first place. I think it sort of comes 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:43.960 with the territory. 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:45.360 But we bloody love it. 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:47.839 There's been some commentary online that the judges can be 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:50.280 quite inconsistent with their critiques. So I don't know if 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:52.160 you've read any of that. Do you think some of 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:55.360 the magic of RuPaul is that it doesn't really take 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:58.839 itself too seriously. So you probably can one season say 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:01.280 something's a little gross and then the next season not 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:02.040 even picking up. 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.760 Yeah, no, one hundred percent. And I've been I have 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:08.880 I read everything. Unfortunately, I need to stop, but I 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.120 just want to know what everyone thinks. It's because I'm, 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:12.920 as you know, so new. 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:16.560 I just want to know. I don't have any self confidence. Yeah. 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:21.040 I think that the thing about down Under in general 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:22.839 is that we do sort of take the piss out 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:27.520 of ourselves a lot. And they touched on topics that they, yeah, 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:30.720 as you say, last season sort of found a bit grotesque, 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:32.800 and they're sort of really embracing it in this one. 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:35.880 And I think that that is down Under in a nutshell. 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:36.800 Well that's what we do. 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.040 We sort of look at ourselves and go, you know what, 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:42.199 that's pretty freaking stupid. Let's make fun of that. It 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:45.760 made for a good, reasonably good acting challenge. I use 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:47.520 acting loosely there. 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:50.079 It was. It is part of you know, how we 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:52.240 how we look at drag for sure. 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.480 You know Quen Kong being a little bit flat and 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.080 episodes one and two has been a real shock. Something 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:59.040 else going on that we don't know because both of 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:02.760 you were pre show favorites. When you read people interacting 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:05.439 with your names being announced, are we missing something like? 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:08.120 Is what's going on? Do you think for Queen Kong? 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:10.599 And why aren't we seeing the level of drag that 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:12.680 people are aware of and know of her? 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:14.840 For Yeah, No, for sure. 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.400 I mean I've seen Queen Kong was actually the only 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:20.680 person in that room that I've seen live like performing. 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:24.480 She was over in Melbourne one time performing with my 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.960 partner in a show and I was I was blown away, 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:31.840 Like I just literally like this is the peak of everything, 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:35.720 and she really is an incredible queen, Like I just 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:39.800 I'm in awe of her. But I think unfortunately, with 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:43.520 that sort of status of being so well known and 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:47.080 being so you know, incredible, you do sort of sometimes 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.800 get into your head and sort of in the way 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:51.640 that I think Mini is as well, and I think 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:54.280 Queen and Mani are both sort of in the episodes 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:58.600 they are in their heads unfortunately, and it's it's a 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.560 shame because you know, even watching a bat I know 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:05.560 how incredible Queen can be. And though she you know, 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:07.920 did an amazing job in the lip sync and you know, 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:13.480 apparently beat me, I know how good she is and 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:16.080 I was very nervous going up against her because of that. 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:19.480 But let's hope, you know, she she can get out 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:21.280 of that kerfuff or and we really do get to 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.080 see her shine because she is phenomenal. 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:25.280 That's all I'll say. 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:28.440 I think there's still plenty of time for you to 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:31.520 shine as well, my friend. I really do, and you know, 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:33.640 I want to see what happens with you. I mean, 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:35.200 I guess I can't really say that because there's only 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.280 been one person who's gone before. But let's just talk 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:40.080 RuPaul in general. When I've seen people leave a competition, 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:42.160 I'm like, yep, I don't need to see them again. 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:45.240 If you really feel like that there is a lot more. 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.560 Maybe it's not even just RuPaul's drag race. Maybe you're acting, 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:51.000 or I just think that you have a lot to offer. 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:52.760 Oh thank you. Yeah. 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.920 No, I'm definitely going to be working very hard to 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:59.200 make the most of this opportunity, and I'm very lucky 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:01.920 to have been given this opportunity in the first place. 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:04.240 I really had nothing to lose and only a shit 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:07.560 ton to game, so I'm I'm I will be And 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.560 as you say, yeah, like I have that theater background 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.560 and singing is where I got into drag and got 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:15.960 into performing, I should say, So you're going to be 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:18.240 seeing plenty more of that. I'm still auditioning for all 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.320 the musicals and things all around Australia, so let's hope 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:24.240 something sticks, just like Drag has. And I mean I 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:27.840 love Drags so much, it really has sort of you know, 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:30.840 it's it's all the gears have sort of clicked into 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:33.400 place for me and it really feels like the right 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:35.440 thing to be doing for me at the moment. So 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:39.920 I'm working hard to keep growing and getting my Drag 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:43.200 out there because I'm pretty proud of what I was 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:45.920 able to show and I know I only have way 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:48.000 more to show. So I really appreciate that you can 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:51.480 see that, and I hope everyone can see that as well. 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:53.960 It's community. I love the fact that you're in a 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:57.600 community's yeah that I know in Melbourne is very well supported. 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:00.120 Everyone who joins the podcast gets this last question and 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:02.040 I don't know if we're getting in any danger with 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:04.840 the licensing of what you're allowed to talk about. But 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:07.920 my podcast, which I think you're episode one hundred and fifty, 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:10.840 so that's pretty exciting. What is something from behind the scenes, 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:13.000 something that we didn't see that we won't see from 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:16.919 behind the scenes, Maybe a moment you maybe a deleted 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:19.560 scene of sorts, like a tasty morsel from your experience. 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:23.119 Oh yeah, look, I know that that NDA is going 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:26.200 to restrict me on this question for sure. And I 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:28.600 know I listened to your one with Foe last week, 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:32.040 and I know she was very careful around tiptoeing around 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:32.639 the question. 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.160 Let's skip it then, will skip it and just play 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:37.000 shady A Oh no, if you want to do it, though. 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:41.040 I mean, I'm trying to think, yeah, no, I will 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:41.760 get in trouble. 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:44.600 Let's go, I Got Shady or Lady, which is a 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:47.600 game which basically is a quick, rapid fire five questions. 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:49.639 You don't need to go into too much information, just 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:52.679 a name or a bit of a something something. Oh 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.720 I love, so you can say shady or lady, being 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:58.560 that if it's shady, you can say what you really 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:01.120 think or lady means that you're going to veto the question, 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:01.800 So it's up to you. 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:04.440 Oh look, I'm probably gonna be shady on all of 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:07.480 them because I look deep down that is that's where 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:09.399 I love to be. I love to be a shady 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:12.800 little queen. Sometimes it comes across a bit mean, but 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:14.879 you know it's part of being. 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:18.080 Dragged absolutely absolutely all right. Now, let's go shady old lady. 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:22.160 Who was the most talented in the competition? 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:27.399 Oh well, this isn't even shady. The tea is that 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:32.240 the most talented queen is probably Quen Kong. To be honest, Wow, 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:34.280 And you know what, I'm going to say that because 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:36.120 she's the only bitch that could have sent me home 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:38.240 because I'm actually the most talented one. 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:39.119