WEBVTT - Mitch Orval - The Angry Dad Era 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:07.160 Episode one, The Angry Dad era, Mitchell Orviell went viral 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:10.560 at a time with the term influencer hadn't even been coined. 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:15.480 The ad page three hundred thousand Nine's all right the 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:21.560 odor of Manjurick you put. 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:26.840 At eighteen. He became an Internet sensation when he started 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:29.600 sharing hilarious pranks he pulled on his dad. 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:32.560 Me and Dylan have about to play the most epic 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:34.320 fucking prank ever. 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:41.880 Mitchell, where the fucking the doors snap laundry? I'm telling 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:42.559 you right now. 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:49.040 A relationship with one of Australia's most popular YouTubers, Chloe Zepp, 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:51.400 catapulted him into influencer fame. 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:54.920 It's Mitchell Orwell and I'm with my girlfriend Chloe Zepp. 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:58.040 The social media couple will love for keeping it real 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:01.720 and being transparent about their elationships, ups and downs. 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:04.319 The next question is how many times a week do 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:04.800 you do it? 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:06.920 Yeah? 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:09.240 I must been having sex with a ghost then maybe 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:10.160 ten seconds. 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:13.160 It was Mitch's most vulnerable confession that earned him the 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:16.600 most respect online. In twenty twenty, he revealed he'd been 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:19.680 battling a secret cocaine habit one way. 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:22.520 To help others be vulnerable is to be vulnerable yourself. 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:27.520 So he goes Mitch was arguably the most popular Australian 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:31.200 male influencer. But what goes up must come down. We 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:35.120 are journalist Sophie Kate and Amy Torba and this is Outspoken. 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:40.480 I'm really excited to get into this deep dive and 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:44.200 also give Outspoken listeners a taste of what our subscribers 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:46.559 have been getting over the past couple of months because 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:49.600 we are sharing part one of our deep dive into 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:51.880 Mitch Orbell and it's a great one. I have really 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:54.480 enjoyed researching this topic. So I want to take you 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:58.040 back to twenty fourteen and at the time, Mitchell Orviell 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:01.080 was eighteen years old and finishing off year twelve and 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:03.160 growing up it was a tradition for him and his 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:06.160 older brother Dylan to pull pranks on their dad, and 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:08.760 this tradition had been passed down by their own dad, 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:11.920 Mark Orville, who used to prank his own father. The 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:15.160 only difference was Mitch and Dylan decided to start filming 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:18.200 their pranks, and as you did back in twenty fourteen, 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.600 the boys started sharing the videos on social media. So 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:24.960 it actually first started when Dylan shared a Snapchat story 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:27.160 of him annoying his dad, and he got a lot 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:31.000 of replies to it. Twenty fourteen was the peak of snapchat, 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:33.000 I think, I know. This is when I was most 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:35.440 obsessed with the app at the time. You could see 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:39.440 who people's best friends were. Everyone was sharing Snapchat stories 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:42.800 because Instagram didn't have stories then, so it was the 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:45.280 only way you could see what people were doing right 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:48.480 then and there. Yeah, it was the golden time of Snapchat. Now, 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:50.920 Mitch decided to film a prank and upload it to 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:55.800 his personal Facebook account with the hashtag angry Dad, and unexpectedly, 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:59.680 the video received seven hundred likes and Mitch started receiving 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:01.400 a lie a lot of friend requests, which was kind 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:03.480 of annoying for him. So he was chatting about it 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:06.000 to a friend at school who suggested, well, why don't 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:08.160 you just set up a separate Facebook page for the 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:11.440 prank videos. Now, miss decided on the name Angry Dad. 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:13.880 He took inspiration from The Simpsons because there was an 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.920 episode where Bart was pranking Homer called angry Dad. We 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.840 were talking about snapchat before, but this also really was 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:22.720 the golden days of Facebook, and I remember there were 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:26.120 so many Facebook groups popping up that were getting hundreds 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.840 of thousands of likes. I mean a lot of businesses 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:31.560 now would wish that Facebook returned to that because it's 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:34.359 so hard to get organic traction on pages now. Yeah, 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:36.960 because this is before Facebook ads. So if you had 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:40.240 a Facebook following of say one hundred thousand people, most 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:43.120 of your videos would actually reach those one hundred thousand people. 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:45.680 It wouldn't be cap and the algorithm isn't what it 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:48.880 is now. So this page went absolutely viral and within 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:51.920 a couple of weeks had fifty thousand likes, and the 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:54.480 likes just kept coming in their droves, with the page 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:57.520 now sitting at one point two million page likes. Do 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:01.120 you guys remember the iconic video Honk if You're Horny 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:05.920 that got over one hundred million collective views. Yeah, it 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:08.840 was shared across that Jimmy Kimmel and also lad Bible 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:11.840 and all of those big pages. And to give context 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:13.680 to people who haven't seen it, this was of course 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:16.559 a video where Mitch put a sign on Angry Dad's 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:18.680 car that said honk if You're horny, and they were 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:21.599 driving around the streets of Melbourne and he was just 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:24.040 going nuts. He's like, why are all these dickheads honking? 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:25.960 I think we need to throw to a clip of it. 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:32.000 Fucking flashing. His lights are more on. There's another fucking 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:36.599 flash and he fucking lights. Maybe you've got a flat tire, 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:41.160 because you should fucking tell me it's fucking looking at 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:44.760 as well. He's fucking bit dabby. 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:49.880 Hang on a sec, your fucking it's red. I love 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.640 that these videos were just filmed off their iPhones because 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:54.919 a lot of the time when you watch prank content, 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:57.080 you think, oh, everyone must be in on the job 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:59.680 because it's filmed with a professional camera. But I think 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:03.080 the isn't it so successful is because Angry Dad's reactions 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.039 were so genuine. The best bit is that this was 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:07.719 all a secret from Mark Orvil, so he had no 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:10.920 idea that he was Angry Dad. Like. He was literally 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:13.159 walking around and people would come up to him and 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:15.640 say stuff about it, and it was only then when 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:17.440 he realized what was going on. 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:18.560 Do you think his. 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:22.120 Profile as a former footballer helped? Because not only did 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:25.560 Angry Dad himself have a profile, but also Dylan he 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:27.920 used to play for the Adelaide Crows. I remember seeing 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:30.479 videos and I was like, he's an ex Crow, you 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:32.720 were just saying off Mike before that you thought the 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:34.400 two of them were quite hot at the time, Well, 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:36.040 like they're a bit younger than us, but I thought 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.080 they were pretty cute, like cute little bondies back in 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:40.760 the day, and I think that obviously helped the channel. 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:43.239 It's funny to think, though, that he had no idea 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:45.839 what was going on, because I think in twenty twenty 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.640 three we kind of think of Facebook as the social 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:51.040 media channel for old people. But when you cast in 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:54.840 mind back to twenty fourteen, parents weren't really on Facebook, 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:56.880 and that's how Mark Orvile had no idea what was 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:59.280 going on. I think it was a better time Facebook. 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:02.320 I remember they used to have this activity slide in 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:04.760 the corner so you can see what everyone was liking. 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.000 You could see remember they used to put up Oh 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:10.440 this person's just become friends with Everyone would comment. Do 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:12.440 you guys remember that other video? I think it's my 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:16.640 favorite angry Dad video where Mitchell gets control of the 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:19.760 TV remote. So angry Dad's in watching a current affair 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:23.080 or something and Mitch keeps changing the channel and he's like, 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:24.239 hell was just happening. 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:36.159 He's just going nuts about it fucking Telly. 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:40.880 It's also really interesting to take a look at how 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:44.600 popular pranks were back in the early sort of twenty tens. 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.800 Remember Jack asked that that was massive, the most popular 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:49.960 show for teenage boys growing up, and I think that 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:52.560 they probably found a lot of inspiration in that. Now, 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:55.520 eventually Angry Dad was in on the prank because everyone 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:57.600 was coming up and talking to him about it. So 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:00.120 Mitch and Dylan had to go to these great lengths 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:02.880 to pull pranks on him. And Mitch talked about this 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.000 on a podcast, which was really interesting. Let's throw to 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:05.520 what he said. 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:09.120 It started to get like people knew it was like 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:11.080 a bit of a thing. Like it wasn't just like 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:12.880 a one off video or two off was like because 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:16.200 we were pretty consistent back then, because one was a 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:19.560 lot more organic and natural, and it was easier to 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:23.080 get him because you weren't We didn't necessarily have to 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:24.960 prank him at the start. It was just showing who 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.720 he was, like his reactions, and he was very reactive 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:30.600 and all that stuff, so small things would work and stuff. 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:32.200 But by the end of it, obviously we had to 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:34.120 be pretty clever with how we got him because he 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.240 knew what was going on, Like he knew everything was 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.720 going online and he knew that like. 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:39.720 To watch his back. 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:42.320 Yeah, as we had a good like one or two 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:44.920 years of just being able to pump out whatever we wanted. 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:49.280 Now, at the time, the word influencer hadn't even been coined, 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:53.280 and influencer marketing really was in its infancy, So Mitch 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:55.720 and Dylan were unaware of the money that could be 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:58.280 made from the platform that they had built. It was 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:00.920 only when Mitch and Dylan got approached by a management 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:03.920 team that they began to understand the commercial side of 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:08.800 their massive platform. So back then, monetization of content wasn't 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:11.600 available on Facebook, so the only way they could earn 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:15.680 money off their videos was through brand deals. However, prank 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:19.240 videos didn't really lend themselves to product placement, and there 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:21.880 were a lot of times that they'd get big brand deals, 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:24.840 but they couldn't execute them in the videos. Yeah, Mitch 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:27.720 was saying, how they'd get this big brand deal on board, However, 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:30.600 it really depended on whether they could successfully pull the 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:32.520 prank cord not. And I just think it shows how 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:35.720 organic these pranks really were. A bit of a fun fact. 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:39.520 So my partner around this time, he had a YouTube 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.640 channel where they didn't do pranks, but they did trick 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:46.400 shot videos, and they got approached by Nike and they 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:49.080 did this film, this video for Nike at a golf course, 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:50.960 and it's just crazy to think that a lot of 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:54.360 these young guys who were early twenties were getting approached 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:57.559 by these huge brands and dealing with all of that themselves. Well, 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.480 they actually ended up taking a deal with Kiss, so 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.640 Kiss signed them to do prank videos for the network. 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:05.920 And this was at a time when prank videos were 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.400 under the microscope. So you remember there was that awful 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:11.280 Royal Nurse prank where sadly a British nurse took her 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:14.280 own life after being duped by some presenters. Yeah, it 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:17.000 was Mel Grigg and Michael Christian. They were the radio 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.839 presenters and it was pretty wild because Mel pretended to 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:22.680 be the Queen and Michael pretended to be Prince Charles 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:26.120 and they managed to bluff their way through and get 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:29.040 information from the nurse about Kate Middleton, who was suffering 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:33.000 from morning sickness at the time. The prank was really successful, 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:37.360 but it had disastrous consequences for everyone involved. Now back 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:39.720 to Mitch and Dylan. They also got paid to do 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:43.000 nightclub tours, which feels very of the time. I remember 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.880 all the reality stars were out there appearing at nightclubs. 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:48.439 That's where we met Gary Beadle from Jordi Show. Now 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:52.200 to demonstrate just how quickly Angry Dad took off, Mitch 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:55.000 started sharing prank videos at the end of year twelve 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:58.160 and he was recognized on his schoolies trip to Fiji. 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.680 So a schoolies trip to Fiji that seems very bougie. 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:03.199 I know when I saw that, I was like, hang on, 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:04.880 most of us just go down to Victor Harbor or 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:08.440 maybe the Gold Coast. Now, Mitch only lasted three months 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:11.120 at what he called his first and last job, selling 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:14.920 memberships at Fitness First, because his social media career took off. 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:17.760 I think we need to get into the Chloe zep 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:21.439 era because I feel like Mitch and Chloe together they 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:24.520 are now a huge social media power couple. But it's 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.760 really interesting to find out how they first met. So 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:30.640 they've been together for seven years and met back in 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:34.040 twenty sixteen when Mitch was eighteen and Chloe was sixteen, 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.560 and funnily enough, they met through social media and it 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:40.000 was actually Chloe, who slid into Mitch's DMS. So it 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:42.800 all started when Chloe spotted Mitch in a photo with 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:45.720 Kurk Coleman. Doesn't this guy have so much to answer 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:48.080 for in the social media world? Ops up all the time? 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:48.800 Yeah. 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.160 So, at the time, Mitch was working as a promoter 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.760 at a nightclub with the sole aim to get people 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.920 into the club. That's a very smart move by that nightclub, 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.839 I know. So one night Kurk Coleman appeared at the 0:10:59.880 --> 0:11:02.800 club and he posted a photo with Mitch, and it 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:05.600 appears Chloe liked what she saw, so she gave Mitch 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.720 a follow, and she also DMed him, saying the iconic 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:12.160 angry dad catchphrase, fuck off Mitchell. I think that was 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:14.559 a good move by Chloe. This would be a great 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.800 wedding story if they do get married at a future Well, 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:21.080 despite Chloe being being on Instagram, Mitch had no idea 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.520 who she was. Let's throw to what Mitch said on 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:26.920 a recent podcast interview about meeting Chloe. 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:30.120 I was actually like talking to a girl at the time, 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.000 and she asked me, so, holy fuck, Cloe's up just 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:35.000 followed you. I was like, the fuck is Chloe's out? 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.520 And then I like clicked. I was like, oh, she's mad. 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:40.360 I was like, thanks tell. 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:44.839 At the time, when Chloe was sixteen, she was really 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:47.920 writing off the coattails of Shiny Grimmon, who was the 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:50.640 girl of the time, but she did have a huge 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:53.600 social media presence. I actually went back and watched some 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:56.760 of her YouTube videos and they are so funny, like 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:59.760 she's kept them all up there. It's hilarious. I suggest 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:02.480 everyone go back and have a look now. Mitch ended 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:04.640 up following Chloe back and they did speak for a 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:07.760 little bit. However, when things turned serious with the girl 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:10.959 he was originally talking to, he stopped talking to Chloe, 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:13.240 and Mitch said that this was great for his future 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:16.760 relationship with Chloe because now she really trusts him. Well, 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:19.320 things ended up fizzling out with the other girl Mitch 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:22.200 was seeing, and he was on holiday in Hawaii, but 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:24.400 his cousin wanted him to come back to Melbourne for 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.120 his Bucks party, so much so that he booked him 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:30.320 a flight. And while flying back from Hawaii, Mitch had 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.520 stopped over in Brisbane and this is where Chloe was 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:35.400 living at that time, and so Chloe happened to be 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:38.600 flying out of Brisbane to Sydney that very day. Now, 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:41.520 Mitch noticed that Chloe was at Brisbane Airport on Snapchat 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:44.240 and messaged her asking if she was around, and it 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.760 ended up that her flight was delayed, so they got 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.640 sushi together at the airport. Is this just like the 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.880 social media and the airport? God's all working together? Oh, 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:55.880 It's definitely fate. And after their hour long day at 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:58.720 the airport, Mitch ended up inviting Chloe to come stay 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:01.160 with him and his family in Melo for five days 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:04.640 and the rest is history. She really moved state very 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:07.480 quickly to be with him, and you think how young 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:10.760 they were at the time, they were teenagers. Meeting Mitch 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:13.200 obviously had a big impact on Chloe's life, but it 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.520 also had a big impact on his life, and it 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:18.480 wasn't just his personal life. It was also on his career. 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.960 While Angry Dad was a viral success, it wasn't a 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:24.520 career with longevity. It's not like he could prank his 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.720 dad forever. So when Mitch met Chloe, he had actually 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:30.840 taken a step back from social media. But with Chloe's 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:34.400 career as a YouTuber booming, Mitch became a very important 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:37.320 part of her channel and a pivot from prank videos 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.640 to vlogging allowed Mitch to share more about himself rather 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.559 than just setting up pranks. I always feel like Mitch 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:46.400 has been the driving force though behind their YouTube channel, 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:49.640 because eventually they did combine the YouTube channels and have 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.880 a couple channel. And he's the one that seems most 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:56.040 passionate about it, which isn't surprising when you do see 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:59.520 how he established himself with Angry Dad. I think he 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:02.760 has all needed Chloe to go that step further. Like 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.360 while Angry Dad did provide the foot in the door 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:08.880 for his influencing career, it was Chloe Zepp that pointed 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.840 his career in that new direction and really drove it 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:14.400 because she was much more popular than him. I really 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:16.839 loved the era when they moved out to their own place, 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.040 but they were living with Tommy Bug, who ended up 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:21.960 dating Shany Grimman. We need to do a deep dive 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:25.520 on Shaney Grimman and all her relationships, definitely. And I 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:27.920 remember they'd always be going out late night to get 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:30.320 like zinger boxes and stuff, and then they'd be sleeping 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:33.400 until early afternoon. It was a very different lifestyle to 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:37.280 you know, how they live now. Could I please get 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:39.960 an ultimate box. 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:41.000 She got one right here. 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:43.560 I'm so excited. I haven't had. 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:45.560 Gainsy the agents honestly haven't had it. 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:47.280 I honestly haven't had it since we used to get 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:48.280 hungover every weekend. 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:51.720 I think that was at a time when influencers didn't 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:54.280 feel like they had to defend their career choice, so 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:56.680 they were sort of happy having the perks of the 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:00.160 laid back influencer lifestyle. Nowadays it has turned in to 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:02.800 more of a business and more of a role. But 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:05.320 I think that influencers now want to tell you how 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:07.520 much work that they're doing at the time now exactly. 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:09.960 And even though they were living in this amazing place, 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:13.200 they were so relatable that you didn't really envy them. 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:16.840 You just enjoyed actually seeing their lifestyle. Sadly, though, it 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:20.440 hasn't been smooth sailing for Chloe and Mitch's relationship, though 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:24.160 having their relationship in the spotlight for seven years has 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:27.560 taken a toll. And you would assume Instagram fame at 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:30.120 a young age would mean a lot of temptation with 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:33.200 people sliding into your DM. So Mitch interestingly said that 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.040 that's not the case for him. Let's throw to what 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:39.280 he said in a podcast interview, and your dms must 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:40.720 be getting lit up at this point. 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:45.400 Well, that's everyone's pretty respectful because everyone loves Chloe more 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:47.480 than me, you know what I mean. Girls love Chloe's 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.760 so I never get any of that shit, Like no 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:52.440 girls would step on like Choeah. 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:55.840 I'd love to see a breakdown of his followers because 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:58.040 I would assume doing all those prank videos, a lot 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.560 of them would also be men. The thing is Instagram 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:02.240 wasn't big at the time, so I don't think a 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:05.160 lot of his audience came from angry Dad. I think 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:07.240 it came from Chloe's channel, so I would argue that 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:10.160 they were probably predominantly female. I really love that Chloe's 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.520 followers were respectful and weren't trying to cut her lant. 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:15.280 That's the thing. So if they were so incredibly popular 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:18.200 as a couple, and that's why everyone was left absolutely 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.360 shocked in June twenty nineteen when they announced they were 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:25.200 no longer living together anymore. In a YouTube video filmed 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:28.080 in Bali, they addressed their followers questions, revealing that they 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:31.600 had actually broken up during Chloe's solo trip to the US. 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:34.840 I remember this trip because Everyone's like, why she by herself? 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:38.120 Wasn't she partying at Coachella acting very much single? I 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:41.440 think so because, unbeknown to Mitch, Chloe had embarked on 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:44.600 this trip with the mission to find herself and this 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.760 is where she became really in touch with her spiritual side. 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:49.800 And I suppose the Chloe Zepp that we know now 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:51.800 with the moon water and all of that, not the 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:54.080 KFC zing a boxer. No, it was a very different 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:57.480 shift for her. And Chloe said spirituality had always been 0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:59.880 an interest of hers, but she had kind of hid 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.920 because she wanted to pretend that she wasn't into it 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:05.000 to fit in with everyone else. I suppose it wasn't 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:08.040 very popular at the time. Now, during the trip, Chloe 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.680 made the decision to break up with Mitch, and when 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:13.800 she returned home, they had a good week together until 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:18.800 something undisclosed happened. Now, the undisclosed issue was the catalyst 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:21.360 that made them decide to move out from one another. 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:23.840 So Chloe and Mitch explained that a big part of 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:26.840 the decision to live separately was because they got together 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:29.600 really young and no longer wanted to step on each 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:32.320 other's toes. You can imagine it would be hard because 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:35.040 they were only sixteen and eighteen at the time, and 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:38.639 they essentially had been living together ever since then because 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:41.760 of their long distance relationship, and they said they kind 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.560 of felt like this old married couple and weren't doing 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:48.440 anything adventurous or interesting. It'd be particularly hard because most 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:52.840 times when people get together as teenagers, they do split 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.679 up and get back together, but they don't have this 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:58.720 public attention on them and people really rooting for them 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:01.400 to get back together. They can't afford to be living 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:03.399 in a house together with all these expensive things, So 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:05.720 Chloe ended up saying, Oh, I'm stuck in this place. 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.320 That's eight hundred dollars a week. Again, this was a 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:10.600 couple of years ago when eight hundred dollars was probably 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:13.359 the norm now for a lot of people. They also 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:16.120 revealed that they'd been to a counselor who taught them 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:19.280 about their love languages, and they revealed that theirs were 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:22.600 just so different. Yeah, it was so interesting because Chloe 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:24.880 revealed in that video that she felt like Mitch didn't 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:27.800 love her because he wasn't very affectionate and he didn't 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:30.040 say nice things to her, and that's what she needs 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:30.840 from a partner. 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:31.520 Now. 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:34.160 During that time, Chloe also revealed that she was thinking 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:37.399 about moving to the Gold Coast by herself to find 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:39.800 herself some more. I think it was really clear from 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:42.719 this video that Chloe was the one wanting more and 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:46.760 very much growing apart from Mitch. Yeah, and they were 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:50.800 so transparent about their relationship issues online, and this is 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:53.000 something we were not seeing at the time. It wasn't 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:56.199 really cool to be sharing this much information. It was 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:59.720 more about glamorizing your relationship. Yeah, a couple goals was 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:02.960 a bit thing. However, they did the exact opposite of that, 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:06.320 and they really let their audience in on their relationship issues, 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:09.760 which was so refreshing. It really made you like them more. 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.760 And in a podcast interview, Mitch spoke about how as 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:15.399 an influencer, he felt like to a degree that he 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:18.640 owed his audience transparency. Let's row to what he said. 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:23.919 I mean, our job is to influence people and to 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:27.240 take people along with our journeys and hopefully be good 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:31.080 role models, inspire people, you know, just make good of 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:35.600 your following with that. Obviously, we commercialize our following, so 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:37.000 we sell to people and we do all that. So 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:41.440 to a degree you owe them that sort of transparency. 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:43.239