WEBVTT - 🆘 Can I Say "No" To Giving A Speech At My Sister's Wedding 💒

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Flex and Frooms catch up podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Wednesday, Freaky's thirtieth of August. Pinch and a Punch

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<v Speaker 1>is happening in two days. Just getting quickly letting you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because we need to bring back that bit from the

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<v Speaker 1>early primary school days. And also, if you're a little

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<v Speaker 1>child on today's show, if you could be a barnyard animal,

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<v Speaker 1>which would you be taking into account that you can't

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<v Speaker 1>choose your owner or your lifespan.

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<v Speaker 2>Well your lifestyle, Yeah, exactly like being a free range

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<v Speaker 2>chicken lit being a little cage giving anyway, Also, were

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about giving a speech at your sister's wedding

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<v Speaker 2>when you hate the husband to be ill.

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<v Speaker 3>Take time, Tech time, tech time, It's tech time with

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<v Speaker 2>To the next level.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of weeks ago, Josh, who works with us

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<v Speaker 2>in the studio filming our social videos, came in and

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<v Speaker 2>immediately asked me the question, did you hear what happened

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<v Speaker 2>with snapchat? Aibot? Well, knowing that we like tech, we

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<v Speaker 2>like futuristic themes, and we like unpacking gossip and drama,

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<v Speaker 2>but I hadn't And because it was happening in real time.

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<v Speaker 2>There wasn't really anything to say. All he mentioned is

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<v Speaker 2>that it seemed as though Snapchat's aibot had posted a

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<v Speaker 2>story or a snap of some sort of something that

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<v Speaker 2>looked like a white wall, kind of the line of

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<v Speaker 2>demarcation where the ceiling meets the wall, like very indiscernible,

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<v Speaker 2>who knows why. But that immediately started going viral because

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<v Speaker 2>people like, what is the meaning of this post? Why

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<v Speaker 2>did it happen? And so what ensued were people tweeting

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<v Speaker 2>pictures of their walls in comparison to the Snapchat walls

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<v Speaker 2>to confirm that it was a wall being posted, and

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<v Speaker 2>from there try to figure out why what's coming up?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it a sign? Is it a clue? And for

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<v Speaker 2>context with this Snapchat AI bot, you just ask it

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<v Speaker 2>questions like what's going on today? How do I make

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<v Speaker 2>a million dollars? What's the weather? How do I say

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<v Speaker 2>sorry to my friend? That's the kind of function, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like Smarter Child from when we were teenagers.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's got the logs of what you said to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, did you use smarter Child?

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea use any chatbots, Mickeynabe.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was on MSN for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>What was it?

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<v Speaker 2>Child Smarter Child was an AI? I don't know it

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<v Speaker 2>was an AI, but it was a chatbot. You would

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<v Speaker 2>speak to it and it would speak back to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, okay, so it's where we learned how to

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<v Speaker 1>get out some aggression.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. People were obviously just so rude to it immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't. So people started speculating immediately that the AI

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<v Speaker 2>was growing sentience because of what it posted. How could

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<v Speaker 2>it post something so normal, so human if it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>intending on becoming or being human Like Snapchat came out

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<v Speaker 2>and responded and said, it's just a glitch people, truly,

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<v Speaker 2>just a glitch, a temporary outage. But people think that

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<v Speaker 2>might be some kind of cover up. Why would you

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<v Speaker 2>tell us if this AI is growing sentience, that might

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<v Speaker 2>reflect poorly on you, or you might not know the

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<v Speaker 2>scope of what's about to happen, so you're concealing this evidence. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>When I saw this, what concerned me is number one,

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<v Speaker 2>our inability to tell the difference between what is human behavior,

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<v Speaker 2>what is just a random glitch, and what AI is

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<v Speaker 2>actually capable of. The AI that's in the Snapchat one

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<v Speaker 2>is not one that's generating images and whatever. It's just responsive.

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<v Speaker 2>You're giving you information. It's giving you information back forth,

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<v Speaker 2>back and forth. It's not like compounding intelligence like these

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<v Speaker 2>other things like chat, GPT three and whatever. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the other thing that we see a lot of when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to AI is this concept called anthropomorphism, where

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<v Speaker 2>you give kind of like human characteristics to objects or

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<v Speaker 2>to add animals or you know, like if I hit

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<v Speaker 2>if I hit a table and I say, oh, sorry, babe, accidentally,

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<v Speaker 2>or if I look at a dog and be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>she's so manipulative, and it's like, is she just being

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<v Speaker 2>a dog? Or is she being manipulative? And I think

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<v Speaker 2>if we're doing it now, where for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>the AI we're interacting with doesn't have a lot of power.

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<v Speaker 2>Our fear that AI is going to gain power over

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<v Speaker 2>us is going to happen just statistically eventually, but I

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<v Speaker 2>fear that it might happen prematurely because of how we're

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<v Speaker 2>viewing it already already as this thing that has so

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<v Speaker 2>much power when it's not even doing anything profound. This

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<v Speaker 2>thing glitched and immediately it went viral sentience. What's happening next?

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<v Speaker 2>What's it going to say, what's it going to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Keep an eye at it? Just glitched And realistically, now

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<v Speaker 2>I've started to think whether AI gains power or not

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<v Speaker 2>in our life over in the next five years. Every

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<v Speaker 2>conversation we have about it gives it social power, Like

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<v Speaker 2>we render ourselves kind of submissive to this entity that

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know anything about, and we're just assuming we're

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<v Speaker 2>at the bottom of the tone pole, even if for

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<v Speaker 2>all intents and purposes, it's at its infancy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, until it isn't.

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<v Speaker 2>And I grew up so fast so far. A big

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<v Speaker 2>sentiment I've seen floating around in my own personal circles

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<v Speaker 2>is that people aren't feeling creative. They're reflecting on who

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<v Speaker 2>they were four years ago, five years ago, and have

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<v Speaker 2>all these tales about what they used to do with

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<v Speaker 2>their time. Gosh, I used to paint so often, I

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<v Speaker 2>went to pottery, I made videos, I listened to all

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<v Speaker 2>these podcasts, I read so many books. I had so

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<v Speaker 2>many thoughts, and now I just don't. And given the

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<v Speaker 2>age group that we're sitting in late twenties, I assumed

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<v Speaker 2>it was just a byproduct of getting a little bit older.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when you're twenty and twenty one, you have

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<v Speaker 2>more time, and you also have more incentive to in

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<v Speaker 2>on these things that become part of your identity. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and then when you grow up and you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>formed your identity, maybe it becomes less of a priority

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<v Speaker 2>to try and signal who you are by what you do.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure. So that was one idea. But then as

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<v Speaker 2>I kept thinking about it, I reflected on a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>I had with a friend where they asked me what

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing on the weekend. This general chit chat

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<v Speaker 2>just evolved into like, but I'm too exhausted to do

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<v Speaker 2>the things I actually want to do. You said, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm yeah, so I'm doing like low level fun things

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm playing more games and I'm building my lego.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I really want to do is get back

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<v Speaker 2>into building my furniture and reading and learning and exposing

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<v Speaker 2>myself to things I don't understand and like upcycling and whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Then the person said to me in return, oh, so,

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<v Speaker 2>like is it a creative block thing? And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, so, like maybe I'm overestimating how much energy

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<v Speaker 2>it takes to do these things I want to do.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just think I don't have ideas, like I

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<v Speaker 2>used to. I was thinking that I really wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>make some videos on what I thought about stuff, but

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<v Speaker 2>then I just feel exhausted to think sometimes. And then

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<v Speaker 2>this person's like, do you think that part of the

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<v Speaker 2>issue with this is that you're just not bored enough?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, what do you mean, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>bored enough? And so this person went into a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a monologue and they were saying that they feel

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<v Speaker 2>as though the antidote to, or kind of like the

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<v Speaker 2>Achilles heel of creativity, is that a lot of us

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<v Speaker 2>are filling in all that bored time with stuff, generative dopamine, TikTok, socials,

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<v Speaker 2>empty kinds of fun. And he's like, the real thing

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<v Speaker 2>that's meant to fuel your desire to do stuff is

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<v Speaker 2>the absence of doing stuff. It's that empty time we're like, gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like sitting around doing nothing. Oh, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>pick up a really fun book. Oh I'm gonna build

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna play with some Plato or something. Yes. And

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm like, that is so true, because if I

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<v Speaker 2>have any kind of empty time, let's say I've got

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<v Speaker 2>forty five minutes, I think to myself, that's just enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Time to watch forty five TikTok videos. Yeah, it could

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<v Speaker 2>be just enough time to make some progress on my

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<v Speaker 2>Barbie dream House Lego set. You know, I could make

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<v Speaker 2>some distinct progress, but I guess I'm not bored enough

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<v Speaker 2>to think about it that way. I'm trying to measure

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<v Speaker 2>the energy I have based on the outcome I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna give me. And so I know, if I

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<v Speaker 2>just scroll on TikTok, it's gonna be enjoyable because something's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna come up one percent. But forty five minutes of lego,

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<v Speaker 2>is that really gonna be enough to make me feel good?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what that is, because, yeah, watching Tiktoko is

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<v Speaker 1>essentially just like putting your brain on ice for a bit, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which is sometimes kind of like.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not just a bit, it's like now the majority

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<v Speaker 2>and now we're all dumb guys.

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<v Speaker 1>What the food?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that boredom is integral to creativity? I

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<v Speaker 2>probably never.

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<v Speaker 1>Used to, but yeah, like I think I was really

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<v Speaker 1>creative during COVID MM, So I think what else is

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<v Speaker 1>important for creativity is having little expectations on yourself. And

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder, like, the longer you don't do a video.

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<v Speaker 1>The longer you don't make a piece of furniture the

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<v Speaker 1>more or like, the longer I don't write, then I'm like, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>what the this is really hard? Like why do I

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<v Speaker 1>ever enjoy that? And then you get in the group

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, yeah, let's go rub on the hands,

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<v Speaker 1>feel and let's go boys.

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<v Speaker 3>Look.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've never enjoyed being bored, and it's hard for

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<v Speaker 1>me to think boredom means I'm more creative because to me, they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Like when is boredom ever inspiring? Exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>And to me they're so opposite into the spectrum because

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite thing is to make something I don't know, man, chick,

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<v Speaker 1>got's pretty good, though. What can I say? Thank God's

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<v Speaker 1>name when I's ready, truly truly.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I last I saying no to giving a speech

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<v Speaker 2>at my little sister's wedding. She framed it as a

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<v Speaker 2>request but also said, do you want so? I said no,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't actively want to, but if you genuinely really

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<v Speaker 2>want me to, I will. I'm gay and I have

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<v Speaker 2>two hetero sisters, both getting married in the next six months,

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<v Speaker 2>so I've been absolutely inundated with boring wedding chitchat for ages.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel weird about marriage as a whole because being

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<v Speaker 2>gay wasn't an option until recently. Plus, I've never liked

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<v Speaker 2>the fiancee in question. He's a good person, but I

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<v Speaker 2>find him super annoying, and she and he both know it.

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<v Speaker 2>And they've been together since they were fourteen years old,

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<v Speaker 2>which I just find so weird, and they're twenty four now.

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<v Speaker 2>Drag him. I don't care about marriage or the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>So am I the asshole for not wanting to do

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<v Speaker 2>a speech at my little sister's wedding? Is this person

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<v Speaker 2>the asshole? I'm going to go ahead and say no,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not the asshole for not wanting to give a

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<v Speaker 2>speech at the sister's wedding, but you might be an

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<v Speaker 2>asshole for thinking that. In any way, a request from

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<v Speaker 2>your sister who's getting married is anything mandatory. It's never optional.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you care?

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<v Speaker 2>What color the dresses? You might care? You might hate

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<v Speaker 2>wearing salmon, but if your sister wants salmon, I think

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna have to wear salmon for the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>day it is. I think for me personally, I really

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<v Speaker 2>would not want to give a speech at any kind

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<v Speaker 2>of wedding, not my friends. Yeah, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>it is. I just the thought of it. Maybe you're

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<v Speaker 2>a seasoned empty Well this is the thing, and I

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<v Speaker 2>have a weird relationship with spotlight. I like the spotlight

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<v Speaker 2>that I've earned. I don't like the spotlight that feels

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<v Speaker 2>like it's being taken and every kind of wedding that

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<v Speaker 2>I've observed, when somebody outside of the actual couple gets

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<v Speaker 2>the stage, it feels like a derailment. Doesn't feel genuine,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't feel completely necessary, and it also doesn't feel

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<v Speaker 2>like the most appropriate reflection of the celebration we're having

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<v Speaker 2>at hand. In this instance, in particular, you got assist

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<v Speaker 2>who's like, not that big on weddings, not that big

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<v Speaker 2>on marriage, doesn't really like the guy you're marrying. Why

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<v Speaker 2>would she do a speech? You know what I'm saying. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>But then, when observing what wedding culture is and how

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<v Speaker 2>people feel about it and how sacred it is, it's

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<v Speaker 2>almost like you're feeding into someone's fairy tale. So the

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<v Speaker 2>very least you could do is play your position. How

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<v Speaker 2>do you feel, Mickey?

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<v Speaker 3>For me, I think family dynamics are always going to

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<v Speaker 3>be complicated and like you can never like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's probably a lot of history here, So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think she's an assehole for not wanting to do it,

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<v Speaker 3>but I guess it depends on how important it is

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<v Speaker 3>to your sister, like if your sister's going to like cry,

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<v Speaker 3>or the fact that you're not going to give a speech, give.

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<v Speaker 2>The speech, give speech, story, don't have to make it long.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, I think that if you are diametrically opposed. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that the term?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but I like the way it sounds.

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<v Speaker 1>To marriage, And obviously you have your history of being

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<v Speaker 1>queer and like it not being available to you, So

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<v Speaker 1>I say fair enough, Like I think your sister should

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate all of that. And plus she knows that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't like the husband, Like if she wants you to

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<v Speaker 1>do it, she's setting up you to do the perfect

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<v Speaker 1>roast and that's going to make you more sad. So like,

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<v Speaker 1>I would never want someone to be my bridesmaid or

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<v Speaker 1>do a speech because they feel like they have to,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's going to rip the bandaid off for them

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<v Speaker 1>for them to tell you. But it's better than you

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<v Speaker 1>putting all of this emotional energy into someone who doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>like you that much.

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<v Speaker 2>You definitely want an enthusiastic yes for all of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But then I also think on the other part, who

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<v Speaker 2>can be more excited than you for your wedding? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like to a point, you have to recognize

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<v Speaker 2>that nobody cares about this as much as you do,

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<v Speaker 2>and most people recognize the burden it is to be

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<v Speaker 2>involved in somebody's wedding, you know, like it's an honor

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<v Speaker 2>to be somebody's bridesmaid. But then you think about the

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<v Speaker 2>financial burden and like the responsibility and the timing and

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<v Speaker 2>all of these things that make it not that fun.

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<v Speaker 1>That's apparels of being popular, truly, would you rather barnyard? Addition,

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<v Speaker 1>we have been known to be piglets and little tiny

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<v Speaker 1>animals running through the forest.

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<v Speaker 2>Cats always like a team united front. When I'm not down,

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<v Speaker 2>talk to me Ready.

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<v Speaker 1>If an evil genie came to you and said, waking up,

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<v Speaker 1>you are one of these pets. You cannot fly. Your

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<v Speaker 1>owner will be completely random, and the owner can be

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<v Speaker 1>good or bad. You cannot choose when to die, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can only choose the species of your choice. WHOA

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<v Speaker 1>Here are the selected animals in the PS three of

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<v Speaker 1>your mind five ps five dog, cat, rabbit or rodent fish.

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<v Speaker 1>And then in one brag it horse, dony, pink, donkey,

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<v Speaker 1>pink chicken.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm going to be a cat.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay why?

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<v Speaker 2>I just think on the hierarchy of privileged animals, cats

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<v Speaker 2>rank quite high. I was initially going to say dog.

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<v Speaker 2>But if I'm a barnyard dog, that means I'm working.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you're a red dog.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, But if there's no working cats on the farm, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean you might not be in a barnyard. That was

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<v Speaker 1>more just the catch hale for this break.

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<v Speaker 2>How you can I say barnyard edition and say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>not really in a barnyard.

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<v Speaker 1>What is a barnyard inside the barn or outside the barn.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say it's a cat. Of all the

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<v Speaker 2>animals that exist, and the domestic ones, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you don't really have to give a lot to your

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<v Speaker 2>owners to get a lot in return. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of other animals put in work or have

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<v Speaker 2>to justify their presence.

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<v Speaker 1>However, you would be in the broader demographic as a cat.

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<v Speaker 1>In Australia. They are the most prolific animal in Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>I not have an owner in this witchy rather.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't choose. They could be the worst person ever.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's really like what speaks to you. I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what I want to be. Okay, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say cat, but you took.

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<v Speaker 2>It, so I won't done.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, Okay, okay, not big because it's too intelligent for

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<v Speaker 1>its own good chicken because the chicken practices in Australia

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<v Speaker 1>read on eating meat. It's a good one, stilly meat.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was very when it needed to hear. It

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<v Speaker 2>resonated at the time, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't more of like a pescatarian died at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I'm gonna say a rodent like being a

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<v Speaker 1>little mouse.

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<v Speaker 2>People like pest control and like rat traps.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but i'd be super cute. So they think, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the little mouse, like like Stuart Little.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that'side in the context of a pet store.

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<v Speaker 2>Rodents don't really get that far.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a mouse, not a rodent. Put some respect on

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<v Speaker 1>the name.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a mouse not a rotent?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but like it's a mouse, a little little mouse,

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<v Speaker 1>not derogatory or actually a funny one. Possum ringtail possum

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<v Speaker 1>Barnyard Edition.

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