WEBVTT - Sober Curious 👀

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to acknowledge the traditional owners on which this

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<v Speaker 1>episode is being recorded, the combo marry people. We pay

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<v Speaker 1>our respects to elders past, present and emerging, and extend

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<v Speaker 1>that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.

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<v Speaker 1>Today I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson, and this is the

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<v Speaker 1>Rise and Conquer podcast. This is the podcast where which

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<v Speaker 1>have mindset, self development and becoming your higher self mix

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<v Speaker 1>soon with a lot of laughs, plus behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 1>of my life running two businesses and being among Think

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<v Speaker 1>of us as the perfect combo of brunch with your

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<v Speaker 1>besties mixed with self development. No matter where you are

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<v Speaker 1>in your journey, we're here to help you be curious,

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<v Speaker 1>pull yourself out, and embrace radical self awareness.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're ready to get into.

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<v Speaker 1>The driver's seat of your own life and stop letting

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<v Speaker 1>life past you by, then you're in the right place.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everybody, and welcome back to the RNC Potty. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>we have an episode that you.

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<v Speaker 2>Have all been waiting for.

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<v Speaker 1>We kind of easter egged this a while back and

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<v Speaker 1>said that we were going to chat about going sober

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<v Speaker 1>or sober curious, and so here we are today. This

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<v Speaker 1>episode is really interesting because we have a tea has

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<v Speaker 1>never had a drip of alcohol in her life because

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<v Speaker 1>of religious beliefs and personal beliefs. Cooper has recently gone sober,

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<v Speaker 1>even though he's kind of not calling it sober.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's just saying he's not drinking at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>For self development reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>And g over here she's like, why can't I have

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<v Speaker 2>it all?

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<v Speaker 1>No, you guys know, I have been sober curious, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like, it's a conversation that I want to

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<v Speaker 1>have because and I tell you, guys, in this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really know where I stand with it, like

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<v Speaker 1>I do, but I don't. But also that's you know

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<v Speaker 1>what's really interesting is when you don't know, I find

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<v Speaker 1>it's really easy to not have the conversation, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, I just don't really want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it because I actually don't know. Yeah, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I want to have the conversation, because I'm like, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>let's unpack this. And also I just love how brutal

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper is in this episode. He's like, does not help back,

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<v Speaker 1>so does not hold back. He's got all the hard questions.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, we just want to do a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>like a trigger warning on this episode. We want to

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<v Speaker 1>be so clear we are not shaming or guiltying anyone

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<v Speaker 1>who currently drinks or sober or you know, any of

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<v Speaker 1>the things. Again, this is just a thought provoking episode

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<v Speaker 1>because I think it's just I think drinking is so normalized,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in Australian culture, whin drinking is very normalized. I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, tell you in this episode of like I

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<v Speaker 1>my go to is bite drinking, and I just thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was like a normal thing. And so it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of just getting you guys to think about how you

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<v Speaker 1>guys drink alcohol and just you know, the different sides

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<v Speaker 1>about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But we thought this was.

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<v Speaker 1>A really cool episode because of the different opinions and

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<v Speaker 1>everything coming in. And again, like I said, I still

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<v Speaker 1>kind of don't know where I stand with this, But

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<v Speaker 1>it's just I'm being very vulnerable and raw and real

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<v Speaker 1>and so as a tear, and so is Cooper, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just bringing you a cool conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's interesting to hear because since we.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually recorded the episode, because as you guys know, we

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<v Speaker 1>record them ahead of time because we are productive galicy,

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<v Speaker 1>We're prepared.

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<v Speaker 2>We are prepared.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went to Morgan Wollen and I had a

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<v Speaker 1>champagne at dinner because we had like oysters, a bougie dinner,

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<v Speaker 1>and champagne is my favorite thing ever and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a little celebration thing for me. So I had a

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<v Speaker 1>faster champagne at dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>Love that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we went to the concert and I had

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<v Speaker 1>one gin and tonic pink gin actually, and then Tim

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<v Speaker 1>asked me if I wanted to have another.

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<v Speaker 2>Drink and I was like, nah, I'm proud at you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm done.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I got a water bottle. And then Tim

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<v Speaker 1>and Charlie, who I went to the concert with, continued.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they they probably would have had about twelve

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<v Speaker 1>drinks while we were there, and but like they're, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>four grown mailmen, so they were like fine, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't understand how much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm like babe, And every single time they went

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, I'm all good.

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<v Speaker 2>So I literally had two drinks, had a lot of water.

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<v Speaker 1>After the concert, they were vibing and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go back home.

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<v Speaker 2>So I went back to the hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>Went about at like eleven, work up, feeling fresh. Love

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<v Speaker 1>that they got home at three m they were not

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<v Speaker 1>feeling fresh, and I just loved it because I had

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<v Speaker 1>the I had a really fun time. It was I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna lie like it. It was different, but again

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think different is bad. Yeah, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>just different because like most other times, you know, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>have like you know, six maybe eight drinks. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's like me on that level, and so it was

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<v Speaker 1>just it was a different experience. But I had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fun and I loved that I could stop

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<v Speaker 1>after two because in the episode I explained, like it

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<v Speaker 1>has My whole thing is I go, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>go to events. I'm like, oh, I'm just gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>a few, But once I start drinking, there's like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of this like limit, and then it's I forget that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm having a few and I don't stop, which we can.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure we can all resonate.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, so that was a really cool concept of

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<v Speaker 1>me being like, oh, I actually can be integral of ione.

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<v Speaker 2>Am gonna have a couple of drinks.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was good because I felt like I enjoyed

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<v Speaker 1>myself and yeah, so that's why I'm not too I

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<v Speaker 1>do have a wedding coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Up, so that'll be interesting. Maybe ask me on that week.

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<v Speaker 1>I yeah, it's at the end of April, but yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, guys, I think you're really gonna love this episode. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to hear your guys' thoughts on this,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna do a Facebook post in the RNC

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook community. There's a link in the show notes if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not in there, because generally like no guilt, shame.

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<v Speaker 1>I just would love to know where people are at

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<v Speaker 1>with this and if it has been on their mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it has been online. What I love about this

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<v Speaker 2>episode two is that I don't think I've ever heard

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<v Speaker 2>someone feel comfortable like you have to to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>it while they're still making the decision. It's always afterwards

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<v Speaker 2>and a reflection of their process, which this episode isn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you're very much still in two minds about going

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<v Speaker 2>sober or not and having that like very I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like a lot of people who are considering going sober,

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<v Speaker 2>that's exactly the thoughts they'll be having. And because it's

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<v Speaker 2>not a reflection of I've gone through this and this

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<v Speaker 2>is how I did it, it's like, this is what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking right now. That's what I'd love Mmmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I like, well, you know, of course I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to be so honest with you guys. And I

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<v Speaker 1>did have that thought of like, oh, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I want to bring this to the podcast because

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't fully processed it.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't fully worked through it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, nah, we're not doing that. Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just I get to be me. I get to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what I'm experiencing because I know a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>you guys will be experiencing that too. Yeah, and again,

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<v Speaker 1>I think a big thing is like having these conversations.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it is it's kind of a hard conversation for me,

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<v Speaker 2>So please be nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Love that weekly Rex a tea. Mine's bit left field.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me. I would like to recommend, if you're feeling

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<v Speaker 2>like you want to get out of your comfort zone,

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<v Speaker 2>for people to watch a Bollywood movie, just any so random?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you have an actual Bollywood movie that you recommend?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>It just depends what vibe you're in. How do you

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<v Speaker 2>find them? Like heaps on Netflix Crime. One of my

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<v Speaker 2>favorites is called Gubby Gushy Gubby Gum. But it's a intense.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're not after intense, I wouldn't go there.

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<v Speaker 2>There's another good one called Dos Dana which is also

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<v Speaker 2>on Netflix. That one's a bit more of a comedy,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I watched. Or if you don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>watch that and you want to watch something English, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a series called The Romantics on Netflix which actually documents

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<v Speaker 2>the bts of one of the like the biggest producer

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<v Speaker 2>in Bollywood film Oh wow, yeah, which I love as well.

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<v Speaker 2>We love a random rac I know, really random. It's

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to be wanting to get out of your

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<v Speaker 2>comfort zone. Yeah, and look that's rek my reck. What's yours?

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<v Speaker 1>I have a bit of a I come in. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing all the self development rex R.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it, carrying the team.

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<v Speaker 1>My recommendation is to re look at and revise, or

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<v Speaker 1>even if you've never done this, get clear on your boundaries,

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<v Speaker 1>So your boundaries with you know, your partner, your husband,

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<v Speaker 1>your spouse or if yeah, if you have one.

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<v Speaker 2>Your boundaries, you know you don't have to worry about

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<v Speaker 2>that one.

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<v Speaker 4>To do.

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<v Speaker 2>Better? How good? One last, easier, easier?

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<v Speaker 1>Get clear on like your boundaries in regards to your colleagues,

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<v Speaker 1>or like your what do you call employee?

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<v Speaker 2>Employees? Wow, what didn't I forget?

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<v Speaker 5>Them.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because they just think we're best friend. We are

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<v Speaker 2>your friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know your parents. Because it's interesting. I've actually

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<v Speaker 1>been doing this recently, and even though I would had

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<v Speaker 1>like I would had, I would had sorry associated myself

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<v Speaker 1>if someone with strong boundaries, Yeah, I actually wasn't fully

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<v Speaker 1>clear on them. Like I kind of knew them, but

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't fully clear. So to actually like write about

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<v Speaker 1>them is like a whole other thing. And just to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of know your boundaries and where you're currently at

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<v Speaker 1>is really really cool. Because also a big thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been thinking about is like, you know, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you entertaining?

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<v Speaker 2>So are you saying you, you know, don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>Drama, but you're also entertaining having really shit boundaries with

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<v Speaker 1>your friends?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then there's drama. Or are you saying that

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<v Speaker 2>you want.

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<v Speaker 1>A relationship that feels really stable and like a partnership,

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<v Speaker 1>but you and your partner have never spoken about boundaries

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<v Speaker 1>or like being really clear on your communication with like

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<v Speaker 1>money or you know, those kind of like hard conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just very interesting because again I thought

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<v Speaker 1>of myself someone with strong boundaries, but then it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually hadn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Fully set them. Yeah, that's so interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's even like I was thinking, even you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with team MATEA, like I hadn't really like I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>really set boundaries with you guys, even though I think

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<v Speaker 1>you know them.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's even the big thing of.

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<v Speaker 1>Having that conversation, yeah, to make it explicit, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think sometimes again, having that conversation is kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>scary part. But then I've been having a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>conversations with Tim recently about boundaries, and like I've been

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<v Speaker 1>with him for nearly eleven years and we're having some

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<v Speaker 1>of our first conversations about boundaries.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Because there was one that happened the other day, and

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, he got a bit defensive because he

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<v Speaker 1>thought I was like getting up him, and I was like, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>like I just want to be clear with this. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think you did something wrong, Like I just I

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<v Speaker 1>want to bring it up and talk about it so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and we're both clear so we can move

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<v Speaker 1>past past this and both.

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<v Speaker 2>Just be so clear.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And he was like, oh okay, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>had the conversation and now we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, oh cool, we know. Yeah, so true and even

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<v Speaker 2>like you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it has to be a bad conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's a lot of fear about having.

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<v Speaker 2>Conversations around boundaries.

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<v Speaker 1>So true, because it's like you think it's limiting yourself

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<v Speaker 1>with people, or limiting your time or limiting your energy,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's actually giving you energy because you're.

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<v Speaker 2>So clear now. I think, yeah, it is an uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 2>conversation because I thought of me sitting down with like,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, some of my friends and being like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to reply to you quick or that sort

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff. It's like, people will go, is it worth

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<v Speaker 2>having the conversation because they probably know I'm a bit

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<v Speaker 2>slow and replying and that sort of stuff, But the

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<v Speaker 2>clarity is so important And.

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<v Speaker 1>Do they know or do they when you don't reply

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<v Speaker 1>in three days?

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<v Speaker 2>Think fuck? Do they like me?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So true. That's too weird, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you're probably not thinking that, but also you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how the other person thinks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a conversation I had to have with my

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<v Speaker 1>mum of like, oh my god, if I don't message

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<v Speaker 1>you back in a week, it's probably just because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so busy at work.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not because I don't love you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's and like she needed to hear that, so

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, okay, cool, Yeah she's not angry at me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh my gosh. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So but see how interesting, Like that's such a small conversation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but how much we don't have it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that everybody have this uncomfortable biometree conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'd love to do a whole episode on it

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<v Speaker 1>because I think it's it's a cool concept, but I've

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<v Speaker 1>been like, yeah, look into my boundaries lately.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, guys, let's get into the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get straight into it, let's just go around

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<v Speaker 1>introduce ourselves so everyone knows who's talking their voices and

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<v Speaker 1>also say if you know where you're currently at with alcohol.

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<v Speaker 1>So my name is Georgie. I am sober curious, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sober. Well yeah, anyway, it's a complicated. I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>a complicated relationship with alcohol. But this is what this

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<v Speaker 1>whole episode is about. And yeah, I guess I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>like sober curious, but I'm not sober and also have.

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<v Speaker 2>Been drinking since I was fourteen, So there's that. Shut

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<v Speaker 2>up you go next.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, my name is Cooper. My relationship with alcohol has

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<v Speaker 4>changed recently. I started drinking when I was sixteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a normal person, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think it's eighteen to be normal. But sure, what eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>it's illegal age.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, normal, I say, legally weird as a teenager?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, fourteen issues?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you judging me or shaming me?

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<v Speaker 3>As a brother?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we're past that point, thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Recently I stopped drinking. It was the start of December

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<v Speaker 4>last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Wo you did Silly Season without alcohol?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? That pretty good? Now?

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<v Speaker 4>I was all right, yeah it was pretty good. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that's where I'm at.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, cool A tear. I'm a tear and I have

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<v Speaker 2>never had a drip sip of alcohol drink never. I've

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<v Speaker 2>never had alcohol for religious reasons and I think also

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<v Speaker 2>just a lot of my family never did, so I

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<v Speaker 2>just wasn't exposed to it, I guess, can I ask?

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<v Speaker 1>So, when you went to your uncle's wedding last year,

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<v Speaker 1>was there any alcohol at the wedding?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, like, no one in my family drinks.

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<v Speaker 3>Did people dance?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like this is showing the relationship we have

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<v Speaker 2>without I think interesting, Like it was a lunchtime wedding,

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<v Speaker 2>so there was like a bit of dancing, but at

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<v Speaker 2>one of the functions before the wedding, we have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people got up and danced and there was

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<v Speaker 2>no alcohol there.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting, and so you've just never been interested. No, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think you'll ever taste alcohol?

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<v Speaker 2>I just know I don't think so. I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it's for me. I think I have so much

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<v Speaker 2>fun without it, and I think I've learnt how to

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of fun without it, So I don't

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<v Speaker 2>see the necessity. Like, I'm just good with one of

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<v Speaker 2>you guys pre workout shots whenever I go out. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what I date. Some good shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, amazing. So now you know who's in

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<v Speaker 1>this potty and where we're all currently at. And I

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<v Speaker 1>really wanted to bring this conversation to the potty because

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<v Speaker 1>I have been sober.

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<v Speaker 2>Curious, and I just I think it's very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Because me and Cooper come from a background where, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I'm like I started drinking when I was fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>going out to parties with friends like binge drinking teen

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<v Speaker 1>drinking Cooper's sixteen. And then also we grew out where

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my dad used to have what four beers

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<v Speaker 1>a night, four to six are n four to six beers.

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<v Speaker 2>A night and like that was just normal to us.

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<v Speaker 1>And also I have three older brothers, so two other

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<v Speaker 1>brothers and Cooper who all are in the same you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they do.

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<v Speaker 2>The same, they do the same.

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<v Speaker 1>So for me, even the thought of going sober, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna lie, it kind of terrifies me because it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like so ingrained in the roots of how I

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<v Speaker 1>was brought up and everything. But I do have, like

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<v Speaker 1>I have started to realize, and Cooper has helped me

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<v Speaker 1>a lot in realizing I do have a very complicated

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with alcohol because I don't drink it because I

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy the taste. I drink it to get drunk.

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<v Speaker 2>And feel a certain way interesting. Dear.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, and I think that's actually, like, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a very normal I wouldn't I am not using normal here, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think a lot of people would resonate with that,

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<v Speaker 1>and and I'm not gonna lie. For a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>I was so happy with that and it was fine

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<v Speaker 1>and like as you said, like it was for me

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<v Speaker 1>and I was fine with that and i was fine relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess as I'm becoming more conscious and working

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<v Speaker 1>with a coach this year, I've just had things come

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<v Speaker 1>up and realized my relationship with alcohol can be problematic.

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<v Speaker 2>And also I'm realizing the effects it has.

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<v Speaker 1>On me, for you know, one of the first times

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<v Speaker 1>I guess but I have this, you know, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>quite like I don't want to be like, oh well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go sober because for me, that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>even feel like it's doable right now.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to be very honest like where I'm at. But

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<v Speaker 1>also I want to open up these conversations because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, just I haven't really heard a conversation like this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to explore it and keep talking about

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<v Speaker 1>it and let it all evolve.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny how you describe the thought of going sober,

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<v Speaker 2>because for me, that that toa skit I am of drinking,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't know anything else than not. Isn't that

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<v Speaker 2>so interesting?

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<v Speaker 1>Of like it's so polar Yeah, And it's how you're conditioned, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and modeled.

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<v Speaker 4>Wouldn't you want to experience the things in life there?

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<v Speaker 2>But I feel experiences I can do that without alcohol.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's like Cooper, that's like saying you can't win.

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<v Speaker 4>It with alcohol, because that's not an experience without it.

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<v Speaker 1>But She's saying she's not interested in the experiences that involve.

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<v Speaker 2>Alcohol, Like so many people go through their whole lives

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<v Speaker 2>without doing drugs and they don't feel like they've missed

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<v Speaker 2>out on anything. How's alcohol?

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<v Speaker 3>They don't know?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, an experience, Like when you do an experience, you

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<v Speaker 4>don't know until you do it, and that's an experience.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, but that was just my question to you,

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<v Speaker 4>why is it You're not like, why would you not

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<v Speaker 4>want to experience it?

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like the experiences, or at least what

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<v Speaker 2>I see of alcohol, it just doesn't interest me because

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't think it's like where I want to

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<v Speaker 2>go or i'd want to do. So it's like not.

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<v Speaker 4>Ye, but yes, it's a good point in life, like

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<v Speaker 4>we should all experience stuff at least once.

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<v Speaker 2>So then you're like, it's just definitely not the top

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<v Speaker 2>of my list.

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<v Speaker 1>But also I'm going to challenge you on that, Cooper though,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's for example, I know skydiving is not for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just never want to go skydiving, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just like, I'm just not interested yet and I do,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what I want to premise this whole episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Yet. But it's kind of like, yeah, yeah, look

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<v Speaker 1>at my go skydiving one day. But I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just not for.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, and I think that's where I am at too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just definitely not for me. And all the benefits

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard of alcohol I do without, so I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't found that like why yet as to why

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<v Speaker 2>want to experience it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I'm going to quickly jump in here and

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<v Speaker 1>just talk about why my relationship with alcohol is complicated

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<v Speaker 1>and what.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm currently exploring.

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<v Speaker 1>And Guys, I'm being very raw and vulnerable with you,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm not yet finished in my process of this.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want you to just be like very generous

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<v Speaker 1>with how what you think of me, if that makes sense,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm just I want to be very open. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm starting to realize when I drink alcohol, there is

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<v Speaker 1>a side of me that comes out that it very

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<v Speaker 1>much feels like the fun Georgie.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the fund.

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<v Speaker 1>Georgie who has no worries, who doesn't own two businesses,

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<v Speaker 1>who doesn't have a child, and she's in the moment

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<v Speaker 1>and she's very free, and that's the vibe. And so

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<v Speaker 1>what I am currently struggling with is I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>this side of me to be the any time it

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<v Speaker 1>comes out is when I'm drinking alcohol and how to

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<v Speaker 1>integrate let's just call it fun Georgie into my life

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<v Speaker 1>now so I don't feel.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I need to drink.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just very interesting to me though, because it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel that doesn't feel comfortable or like that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>even feel like. I was talking to my best friend

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<v Speaker 1>about it and she's like, well, why don't you try,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know how.

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<v Speaker 2>Ellie does the heels class, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Or like you know, I'm very in my masculine energy

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, so like getting more into my fem

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<v Speaker 1>energy where I can be more present. But it's just interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like that doesn't really appeal to me. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out, you know, why this different side

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<v Speaker 1>comes out to me when I'm unconscious, and it's obviously

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a part of me, but I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I'm playing with that. And then also on

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<v Speaker 1>top of that is realizing how I'm feeling after the fact.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I drink the week after, I'm a bit spatsy,

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<v Speaker 1>like my whole mood change, doesn't it coober.

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<v Speaker 4>It does, at least until Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and like that's just not how I want my

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<v Speaker 1>life to feel. Is you know, I drink, I'm free,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in the moment, but then the whole next week,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I can't show up as a business

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<v Speaker 1>owner and a mother and that's just like not the vibe.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm trying to really be like, well, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>not serving me. So it's also really interesting that I

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<v Speaker 1>can't just go sober because that thought, I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, like that thought, I'm like, bit, why can't

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<v Speaker 1>I have both?

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<v Speaker 2>But then I like I can understand why. That sounds

0:23:56.240 --> 0:23:58.080
<v Speaker 2>a bit silly, But yeah.

0:23:57.680 --> 0:24:03.479
<v Speaker 4>For me back before, it was an escape, and I

0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:06.120
<v Speaker 4>know that's what it would be for you with our

0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:11.680
<v Speaker 4>stressful life. But it's to dive deep on that why

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:15.760
<v Speaker 4>are you escaping your life? So these are the questions

0:24:15.840 --> 0:24:19.840
<v Speaker 4>you need to ask yourself, Like that's what it is.

0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:24.720
<v Speaker 4>Like you go, you drink, and your whole life dissolves.

0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:28.720
<v Speaker 4>All the stress is to dissolve and you escape and

0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:32.000
<v Speaker 4>it's nice and then you get that relief. So it's

0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:36.479
<v Speaker 4>that's the question, why are you drinking alcohol? It's like

0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:40.639
<v Speaker 4>what are you escaping from? And that's they're the issues

0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:41.640
<v Speaker 4>you need to look at.

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's what I've realized is and that's why

0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:50.000
<v Speaker 1>it's like, how do I integrate that into my life

0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:52.679
<v Speaker 1>so I don't feel like I have to escape? And

0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I just I do want to preface this and be like, guys,

0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:58.360
<v Speaker 1>it's not like I'm like wanting to drink all the time,

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:01.960
<v Speaker 1>like I at the moment, I probably drink what once

0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:03.240
<v Speaker 1>a month or.

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:10.600
<v Speaker 4>Oh what, okay, once a month, don't I drink maybe

0:25:10.640 --> 0:25:11.680
<v Speaker 4>once a fortnight.

0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 2>When was the last time I drank?

0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:14.879
<v Speaker 3>Oh, but you're conscious now of it.

0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but for that, I feel like I've only drunk

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 1>once a month.

0:25:19.920 --> 0:25:23.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Yeah, it's not much.

0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I was about to say, it's not much. It's not

0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:29.160
<v Speaker 1>like I'm drinking every single night. That's what I'm trying

0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:29.600
<v Speaker 1>to get at.

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 4>It would be no, it would just be if you

0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:35.280
<v Speaker 4>have stuff on the weekends, and I feel like you

0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:39.800
<v Speaker 4>would have like a sprint of weekends one after the other,

0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:42.080
<v Speaker 4>and then you would just have a good break And

0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:44.680
<v Speaker 4>I feel like that's kind of how it goes.

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like it would just be various weekends events. Yeah,

0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:51.479
<v Speaker 1>but I'm just trying to preface this. It's not like

0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:54.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm an alcoholic. That's what I'm trying to get. But

0:25:55.080 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 1>it is very interesting because it is something where one

0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:03.880
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent cooper It is like an escape of when

0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:06.680
<v Speaker 1>I drink. And I think also why my relationship feels

0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:10.959
<v Speaker 1>a bit complicated is so when I start drinking, you know,

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, I'm gonna have one or two drinks

0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:15.879
<v Speaker 1>then stop. And then I start drinking and I just

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:16.720
<v Speaker 1>have so much.

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Fun that I can't stop.

0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:23.439
<v Speaker 1>And then I'm always the person who's like, you know,

0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:26.760
<v Speaker 1>buying rounds for a run, we're doing shots shots.

0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you are that gram I am that person. You've

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:32.840
<v Speaker 2>seen it. Yeah, you always buy me a water.

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, guys, I got tequila shots, but I

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:36.880
<v Speaker 1>got a tear of water.

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:38.840
<v Speaker 2>I got your own.

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:44.360
<v Speaker 1>No, I was buying you juices at one point. But yeah,

0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:46.719
<v Speaker 1>I get a bit excitable, and I am that person.

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:51.080
<v Speaker 1>And that's even something I'm diving deep on of. I

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:55.320
<v Speaker 1>think that's the reason why I am so curious because

0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I am finding it a little bit difficult that once

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I start drinking, I do end up binge drinking, which

0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:05.760
<v Speaker 1>again I'm just a point in my life around like

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:07.200
<v Speaker 1>this isn't really the vibe.

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:11.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Do you think you also maybe feel a bit

0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:16.040
<v Speaker 2>of shame of integrating fun Georgie into your everyday life

0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 2>because of the responsibilities you have though, that's why it's

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:19.360
<v Speaker 2>so hard.

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it doesn't feel natural to me to integrate fun Georgie.

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think.

0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:28.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like it feels, to be very honest, it feels

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 1>like I have so much pressure and responsibilities in my

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:37.200
<v Speaker 1>life that it feels like I don't have the space

0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:41.920
<v Speaker 1>for that, which is probably which is the issue. Yeah,

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 1>but that's something I yeah, am working on and trying

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 1>to figure out.

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 2>Maybe you need to surrender. Yeah, does alcohol help you surrender?

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Do you reckon? Or no? Just brings out fun Georgie. No,

0:27:58.240 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 2>it's just fun Georgie.

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 1>But then it's like it's not that fun because then

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:03.919
<v Speaker 1>the whole week after I feel like crap, and it

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:07.680
<v Speaker 1>really affects my moods, really affects my moods, and I

0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:10.680
<v Speaker 1>often feel a week after drinking, I often feel quite

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 1>like depresso, very sad.

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was so cooped.

0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:18.680
<v Speaker 1>You want to maybe chat about your process of being

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:21.040
<v Speaker 1>sober at the moment and what that looked like and

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:24.000
<v Speaker 1>why you decided to become sober.

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sure.

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:33.639
<v Speaker 4>So I started to see a coach and we both

0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 4>dove on trauma and what sort of coach who's a

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:44.040
<v Speaker 4>mind body coach? So yeah, we dove on bringing up

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 4>trauma and releasing it so to.

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Speak, like kind of like inner child stuff.

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 4>Or yeah, everything everything all around it just when yeah,

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 4>when I was a child up to when I'm my

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 4>age now just going through that. And what I was

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 4>finding when I was bringing up this trauma that it

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 4>would just be so fresh and I would have even

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 4>one beer or two that it would trigger that same

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 4>trauma and I just, yeah, I wouldn't be a really

0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 4>nice person to be around. So my coach actually challenged

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 4>me to saying, why don't you just not drink for

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 4>the next couple of weeks. Didn't say go sober or

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 4>I didn't even have that word in my head. It

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:37.960
<v Speaker 4>was just not drinking. That was it then, because even

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:42.479
<v Speaker 4>the label of this meeting now is why am I

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 4>going sober? Like I don't think I'm going sober. I'm

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 4>just not drinking this period of time of my life.

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I just stopped drinking and then was diving

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 4>deep on my shit and then I was able to

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 4>I started to I feel the effects of not having

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 4>alcohol because I was thinking about it that I probably

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 4>had maybe a few weeks max since I was sixteen

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 4>to now to not drinking like even a beer. There

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 4>was little sprints of having a beer every day, and

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:23.800
<v Speaker 4>then I would have a little break of not having

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 4>them during the week and then doing on the weekend.

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I was I was, yeah a bit like

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 4>that was pretty cool. But what I was finding was

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 4>things were changing. My energy levels were going up. My

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 4>skin this was like a massive one. I started to

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 4>become more ten like my really yeah.

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:49.400
<v Speaker 3>Like no joke.

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:55.480
<v Speaker 2>For reference, Cooper's quite bail. It has not got the

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 2>olive skin like I.

0:30:56.560 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 3>Do, and it's fully check like he started to.

0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 2>Get more color. Yeah, I think that you're trying to.

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 4>Say, yeah, like yeah, just like in the shower and

0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 4>just in my face as well. Ash should be like,

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:14.040
<v Speaker 4>have you got a tan on? I'm like what no,

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 4>And and yeah. It was just that was like a

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 4>pretty cool thing for me. Yeah, that the energy my moods,

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 4>which I didn't notice, but Ash, my wife, she definitely noticed.

0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 4>She said, I just love you when you're not drinking.

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 4>And that was a bit of a wake up for

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:38.400
<v Speaker 4>me to say on the crap like I was affecting

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 4>her so and then that was progressing like weeks on it,

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 4>and I didn't take too much notice of like oh

0:31:46.480 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 4>I've got to say stay sober or I didn't want

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 4>to be after the first two weeks. First two weeks

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh, I have it here because I

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 4>was so used to it. But yeah, two weeks went by.

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 4>But then now it's just like not on my mind

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:08.120
<v Speaker 4>at all. It's just makes me question everything. Of like

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 4>I've kind of noticed when other people drink, I always

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:14.800
<v Speaker 4>question them and I say like, why are you drinking?

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 4>And then they would say, oh, just as a social thing.

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 4>And I would say, oh, like why and just keep

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 4>asking questions about it and they would just say the

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 4>same sort of stuff.

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, my.

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 4>Question always would be like why do you have to

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 4>do that to be that person? Why do you need it?

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 4>That would just be more me trying to understand what

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:40.720
<v Speaker 4>people are kind of going through, and then I would

0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 4>challenge them, and I don't know, I just kind of

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 4>but yeah, it's it is crazy what society puts on

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:56.360
<v Speaker 4>alcohol as well, like it is normal in society. So yeah,

0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 4>just having those questions of how do you want to

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 4>feel the next week and do you want to feel good?

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 2>Or maybe even.

0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Like being aware of how it makes you feel, because

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 1>like up until like recently, it's like I just didn't

0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 1>even put my awareness to drinking, if that makes sense.

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 1>It's just like, oh, I go out, I've been drink.

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm a bit like down the next week.

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 2>But that's just life. Almost wasn't even age.

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I found that when you're kind of growing up

0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 4>and you're you're looking for different stuff, Like you get

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 4>to that age.

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 2>And looking from experiences, then.

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:35.959
<v Speaker 4>It's like the same thing every time when you go drinking,

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 4>it is the same thing. And then you just kind

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:41.720
<v Speaker 4>of get to that point of like do I need

0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:44.479
<v Speaker 4>this with this person? Am I going to get anything

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 4>out of it? And am I looking for something more

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 4>in life?

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 1>That's actually can I just quickly bring something into this convo?

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 2>Coop is a.

0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Big thing I realized is drinking.

0:33:56.600 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 2>For me too.

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 1>It allows me to be more vulnerable in my relationships.

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 1>So when I'm drunk, I am so open and honest

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 1>about how I feel and who I am, as we

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 1>all are. And it just made me think that there

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:20.040
<v Speaker 1>was just some relationships there where I'm like, oh, I

0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:23.919
<v Speaker 1>can't be vulnerable unless I'm drinking with this person, yeah,

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 1>and then questioning that and going.

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Why don't you feel safe unless you're drunk? Yeah?

0:34:30.000 --> 0:34:34.360
<v Speaker 1>And why like, why would I want a relationship where

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:38.799
<v Speaker 1>I cannot be vulnerable or quote unquote you know, my

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 1>whole self unless I'm drinking with them or even bringing

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 1>in I feel like this is maybe more of a

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 1>female thing, but I'm not sure you can tell me

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:52.799
<v Speaker 1>of I found with drinking. You almost kind of like,

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to use this word bit just take

0:34:57.000 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 1>it with discerment of you kind of trauma bond like

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, with your drinking, and then someone's telling you

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 1>about something they're going through and then you're like, yeah,

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I can you resonate And then you bond over something

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:15.439
<v Speaker 1>bad happening or feeling a certain way, and you create

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:17.680
<v Speaker 1>a bond with this person when you're drunk.

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. That used to happen to me a lot.

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:26.279
<v Speaker 1>And I would create these relationships, But now that I

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:29.840
<v Speaker 1>unpacked them, I'm like they were really only ever created

0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:30.760
<v Speaker 1>when I was drinking.

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:33.399
<v Speaker 2>And that was like a huge moment for me to be.

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:40.279
<v Speaker 1>Like, ooh, there's something here, and do I want to

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 1>just have relationships where I have to get drunk to

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:47.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, talk to this person or feel this way

0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 1>or open up.

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:52.440
<v Speaker 2>And even just bonding over things, bad things that have

0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 2>happened to you, if that's the best foundation for some correct.

0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Yes, correct, And I say I don't like I'm talking

0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:02.520
<v Speaker 1>like small T trauma Like, yeah, I'm just using that

0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:03.800
<v Speaker 1>as a word.

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 4>Well, it's a good release, like it's when it brings

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:10.480
<v Speaker 4>up those traumas you you would only bring them up

0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:13.359
<v Speaker 4>because you're trying to release them and get them off

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:15.480
<v Speaker 4>your shoulders or chest or whatever.

0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes, but it's really interesting of like I would notice

0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:22.279
<v Speaker 1>that this would only happen when I was drinking, and

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:25.760
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't want like not only because

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:29.880
<v Speaker 1>it's like I can have deep conversations and connections with

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:33.560
<v Speaker 1>people around me, but then certain people it's like I

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 1>would have to be drinking for that to happen.

0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:37.040
<v Speaker 2>So interesting.

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:41.319
<v Speaker 4>Well with your question about is it a female or male? Yeah,

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 4>I my opinion would be in society it is definitely

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:52.279
<v Speaker 4>a female thing because men don't like to share their

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:56.200
<v Speaker 4>feelings and be vulnerable because we have to Well, I'm

0:36:56.239 --> 0:36:59.839
<v Speaker 4>actually on I do the same as you, but I

0:36:59.880 --> 0:37:04.960
<v Speaker 4>was more brought up with my mum and that softer,

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:05.680
<v Speaker 4>so to.

0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 2>Speak, the fair energy.

0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:12.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I've always I enjoyed it because I like to.

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 5>But it might have been how funny Trooper, Like whenever

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:19.120
<v Speaker 5>we were like me and Cooper were drinking together and

0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:21.840
<v Speaker 5>wet parties and stuff, it'd always be like me, my

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:26.279
<v Speaker 5>bestiet Isabelle, and like Cooper and.

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:33.400
<v Speaker 4>With us your friends always with girls, I just connected.

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:36.160
<v Speaker 4>But then I'd go to the guys and they're just

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 4>talking about ship stupid at ship, and I'm just like,

0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:41.839
<v Speaker 4>I need to get out of here.

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 1>And that's girls. I feel like, obviously you haven't had

0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:47.239
<v Speaker 1>this experience it here, but like you do, girls go

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:49.200
<v Speaker 1>like deep when they're drinking.

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I've been in the bathroom to clubs. Whoa,

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 2>it's just so much information for a stranger. Yes, yeah,

0:37:57.280 --> 0:37:58.480
<v Speaker 2>exactly that vibe.

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 1>But what's even interesting is me even noticing that in friendships.

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's even.

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Like when you look at your early twenties, like you

0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:09.919
<v Speaker 1>usually have like a group of people that you're like, oh,

0:38:10.200 --> 0:38:12.640
<v Speaker 1>who do you ever hang around them when I'm drinking? Yeah,

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:15.320
<v Speaker 1>And it's just like it's really cool to question these things,

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:17.799
<v Speaker 1>and it's really cool to have a think and be like,

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:20.560
<v Speaker 1>moving forward, I actually get to be the leader of

0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:20.959
<v Speaker 1>my life.

0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 2>And moving forward?

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Is that the relationships I want or do I actually

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:30.719
<v Speaker 1>want to curate my environment where my connections don't just

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:33.600
<v Speaker 1>come from that when I'm drinking, et cetera.

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:36.120
<v Speaker 2>I think it's also interesting to keep in mind that

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 2>alcohol lowers your inhibitions, so when like you're yeah, and

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:45.720
<v Speaker 2>like your critical thinking is not as effective when you're drunk.

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:51.440
<v Speaker 2>So clearly all those things that come up in your

0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 2>head of when you potentially maybe think forward to consequences

0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 2>of actions don't as from what I understand, yes, when

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 2>you're drunk. Correct. So it's like that's why it's easy

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:04.719
<v Speaker 2>to be vulnerable because you're not thinking, oh, what are

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 2>they going to think about me tomorrow and that sort

0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:09.880
<v Speaker 2>of stuff. Yep. But is it about maybe working on

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 2>lowering your inhibitions normally, either with those people or finding

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:17.480
<v Speaker 2>people that that feels good with exactly?

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, exactly that is I would love to And it's

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:23.880
<v Speaker 1>not like I don't, but it's like, that's what I

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 1>had to realize, is I want to be able to

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:31.480
<v Speaker 1>be vulnerable and have that connection with those you know

0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:36.200
<v Speaker 1>people or future people when I'm not drinking, and it's

0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:38.920
<v Speaker 1>just such a huge thing for me of like, well,

0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I think I need to start from scratch, and I

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:44.920
<v Speaker 1>think that does involve not drinking for a while so

0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 1>I can figure this out. Yeah, that's and that's I

0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:50.840
<v Speaker 1>guess the big kind of theme that I want to

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:54.920
<v Speaker 1>bring in of I don't I guess what terrifies me

0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:57.280
<v Speaker 1>is like I don't want to say, oh, I'm going sober,

0:39:58.040 --> 0:39:59.239
<v Speaker 1>because I don't.

0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Ever want to be boxed in boxed in.

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:04.759
<v Speaker 1>And it's even like this is a different concept of

0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:08.200
<v Speaker 1>like I remember so many people back in the day

0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:11.719
<v Speaker 1>of they went vegan and they had their whole Instagram

0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:14.200
<v Speaker 1>following based on vegan and then something happened to their

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:18.800
<v Speaker 1>health where they had to introduce animal products for health

0:40:18.840 --> 0:40:22.759
<v Speaker 1>reasons and they felt like they couldn't because of this

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:23.840
<v Speaker 1>box that they had.

0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:24.120
<v Speaker 2>Put them in.

0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 1>And it's like I never want to get to the

0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:28.320
<v Speaker 1>point where I don't feel like I can like change

0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:32.719
<v Speaker 1>my identity. So I think the word sober terrifies me

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 1>because I'm like, I don't want to have a label,

0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:40.000
<v Speaker 1>and that's why I'm like, well, what about this concept

0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:42.239
<v Speaker 1>of being sober curious where I stopped drinking for a

0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 1>while so I can figure these things out and then

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 1>get to a place where if I do want to

0:40:48.120 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 1>have a drink, I can, but also if I don't,

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

0:40:51.000 --> 0:40:54.080
<v Speaker 2>Why like what you just said about the vegan example,

0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:56.840
<v Speaker 2>where their whole Instagram following or whatever was based on

0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:59.759
<v Speaker 2>being vegan and that was like that part of their

0:40:59.800 --> 0:41:03.520
<v Speaker 2>idea identity. Why do you think whether you drink or

0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:05.600
<v Speaker 2>not is part of your identity.

0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 1>It just it feels part of my identity because I've

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:11.640
<v Speaker 1>been doing it since I was fourteen, and it feels like,

0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 1>like I said, there is quite a few relationships built.

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:18.799
<v Speaker 2>Just on that, not just on that, but like that's

0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:19.640
<v Speaker 2>a big thing.

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:22.239
<v Speaker 1>So that's even something I was thinking about before of

0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:25.840
<v Speaker 1>like I clearly went soberfore, you know, nine plus months

0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 1>when I was pregnant with Ivy, and.

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:31.240
<v Speaker 2>Just to confirm.

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:34.920
<v Speaker 1>And it's really interesting, Cooper, because I went to a

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Hens and I went to a couple of events and

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I remember being there and like everyone's getting very intoxicated

0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 1>and me going, oh my god, I do not miss this,

0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm so excited to wake up fresh tomorrow and

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:48.719
<v Speaker 1>just be good. Obviously you're like heavily pregnant, so you're

0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:51.880
<v Speaker 1>also like not that good, but I'm really tired. But

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:54.840
<v Speaker 1>like those events, I felt that way Cooper. I was like,

0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:59.320
<v Speaker 1>same shit, same shit, different night. But when I was pregnant,

0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:03.359
<v Speaker 1>the only time where I was like, oh, it would

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 1>be nice here is when me and Tim went on

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:08.759
<v Speaker 1>our baby moon and we were at like the with

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Sundays and we were at Qualia and like there was

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:17.839
<v Speaker 1>the sunset and Tim was having, you know, a wine.

0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:19.800
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, this is the best wine I've ever tasted.

0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:21.880
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh, I would love to have

0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:24.560
<v Speaker 1>a wine here with my husband as we're in this

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 1>like beautiful location, but it's like one and then we

0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:31.279
<v Speaker 1>would just go to bed because that's, you know, what

0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:34.120
<v Speaker 1>we do. So like that would be like the only

0:42:34.200 --> 0:42:36.840
<v Speaker 1>moments where I'm like that is an interesting thing to

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:37.360
<v Speaker 1>think about.

0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:40.600
<v Speaker 4>Well, I'd like to ask you a question that this

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:45.480
<v Speaker 4>is what I'm doing, But why do you have to

0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 4>have a drink with Tim? Why can't you not have

0:42:49.560 --> 0:42:54.319
<v Speaker 4>a drink with Tim and go deep conversations because there's

0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:59.960
<v Speaker 4>a reason deeper why you're drinking and it's not in that.

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Moment though, it wasn't because I wanted to go deeper

0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:06.520
<v Speaker 1>with Tim. It's because the wine was very delicious and

0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:09.799
<v Speaker 1>it was like a vibe. Like it was like, Oh,

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:11.680
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to have a wine and be here in

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:14.240
<v Speaker 1>the sunset and like get a photo with my glass wine.

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Why is the wine part of the vibe?

0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 1>It just feels the part of the vibe. For me,

0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:24.680
<v Speaker 1>I can't and this is great questions and Cooper. Just

0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:26.720
<v Speaker 1>for me in that moment, I was like, Oh, it'd

0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:28.560
<v Speaker 1>be really nice to have a wine.

0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what is there something deeper?

0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:36.400
<v Speaker 4>I think consciously you have to have a wine with Tim.

0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:38.120
<v Speaker 2>For it to be the vibe like you don't have

0:43:38.160 --> 0:43:43.560
<v Speaker 2>that wine glad vibe. Yeah, there is.

0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:46.319
<v Speaker 4>A reason why. It's not just because the wine tastes good.

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 4>There's something deeper. Yeah, why your whole feelings and thoughts

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 4>go towards it.

0:43:52.560 --> 0:43:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is interesting. I can think about that. I

0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:57.120
<v Speaker 1>appreciate that. Guys food for thoughts.

0:43:57.520 --> 0:44:00.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but they're the questions that you need ask yourself

0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:01.320
<v Speaker 4>as well.

0:44:01.719 --> 0:44:04.160
<v Speaker 1>So Cooper, for instance, if I was to come back

0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:06.799
<v Speaker 1>and say, oh, well I just wanted to whine, I

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:09.080
<v Speaker 1>just it's something I'd like doing.

0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:10.319
<v Speaker 2>What would you say?

0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:12.960
<v Speaker 3>After I just asked you that question?

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I was like, well, it's just something I

0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:17.160
<v Speaker 1>like doing. What would you say? Because I guarantee a

0:44:17.200 --> 0:44:18.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of people are going to think that in their minds.

0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:22.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if that's kind of where you come from, like

0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 4>after me already knowing that information, it just means you're

0:44:27.640 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 4>not ready to go deeper in that conversation and you can't.

0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:35.480
<v Speaker 3>Push like I can't push you to do it.

0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:37.919
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it would just be a question and then that

0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:42.280
<v Speaker 4>question might come up in your head later when you're ready.

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:46.280
<v Speaker 4>Everyone has to be ready for everything. You can't push

0:44:46.320 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 4>yourself or push other people in to do stuff. It's

0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:54.399
<v Speaker 4>just just give those questions, let it similer, and then

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:57.719
<v Speaker 4>see what happens. But yeah, you have to question yourself

0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:00.400
<v Speaker 4>and you have to be ready to do anything.

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:04.080
<v Speaker 2>I think something interesting with that too, is how society

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 2>has linked alcohol to celebration and.

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Glam and lux This is me and champagne.

0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think that also might be where you

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:15.920
<v Speaker 2>might be coming from with I need it for the

0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:18.719
<v Speaker 2>vibe is in. You want to feel luxury, you want

0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:21.560
<v Speaker 2>to feel good, you want to feel like you're living

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:25.640
<v Speaker 2>the life and everything that's been shown to us in media,

0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:30.359
<v Speaker 2>we consume in like people we see that are on platforms.

0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:34.040
<v Speaker 2>Alcohol is there if you're celebrating something, you pop a

0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:38.960
<v Speaker 2>bottle of champagne. If even when athletes win like whatever games,

0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:41.279
<v Speaker 2>they're popping champagne and they're spraying it on each other

0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 2>to celebrate this amazing thing that's happened, and almost unpacking

0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:49.000
<v Speaker 2>the effect that's had on your subconscious of oh, I'm

0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:51.919
<v Speaker 2>not celebrating it or appreciating enough if I'm not having

0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:55.760
<v Speaker 2>a glass of champagne, or it's not relaxing and glam

0:45:55.840 --> 0:45:57.960
<v Speaker 2>if if I don't have a glass of wine in

0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:00.799
<v Speaker 2>my hand, and almost but just like unpacking that in

0:46:00.840 --> 0:46:03.600
<v Speaker 2>your head on why because I feel like for some

0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:05.840
<v Speaker 2>people they might feel they need it for the vible

0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:08.879
<v Speaker 2>just because they want it, but it's because it's associated

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:11.719
<v Speaker 2>with that I'm celebrating myself and to do that, I

0:46:11.880 --> 0:46:14.239
<v Speaker 2>need alcohol or I need champagne.

0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:17.880
<v Speaker 1>And unpacking that And that's such a great point to

0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:22.560
<v Speaker 1>bring up because it is so true of even me saying, well,

0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:24.880
<v Speaker 1>it's been conditioned to me since I was fourteen.

0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:27.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's a condition. Yeah, it's something that I

0:46:27.960 --> 0:46:31.640
<v Speaker 2>feel like it's like and probably before you were fourteen,

0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:32.440
<v Speaker 2>of course.

0:46:32.200 --> 0:46:34.799
<v Speaker 1>Because I saw my parents, well my dad drink, you know,

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:35.560
<v Speaker 1>my whole life.

0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:36.320
<v Speaker 2>Even movies.

0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:40.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course, So that is so like, that's exactly right.

0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:43.799
<v Speaker 1>And it's really interesting because you know, I'm the girl who's.

0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Like, don't put yourself in a box. And then I'm like,

0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:47.280
<v Speaker 2>but I need.

0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Champagne to celebrate, But it is it's like, it's I'm

0:46:52.480 --> 0:46:55.320
<v Speaker 1>so glad you said that, because even I'm thinking, now,

0:46:55.800 --> 0:46:58.319
<v Speaker 1>if I do have something I want to celebrate, like

0:46:58.719 --> 0:47:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I do, go and buy a very extensive bottle of

0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:03.399
<v Speaker 1>champagne because it makes me feel a certain way.

0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:08.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I'm like, oh, so interested. I'm so curious.

0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:13.640
<v Speaker 1>But that's like, it's really cool to even question these

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:16.400
<v Speaker 1>things because how often do we just go through life

0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:18.480
<v Speaker 1>not questioning anything?

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:22.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, question everything? Question everything.

0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any last questions for me and Cooper before?

0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:29.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Cooper, do you think you found it easier to

0:47:29.560 --> 0:47:32.759
<v Speaker 2>go quote unquote sober because you just decided not to

0:47:32.880 --> 0:47:35.400
<v Speaker 2>drink rather than put yourself in the box of being

0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:36.960
<v Speaker 2>sober because the tear.

0:47:37.120 --> 0:47:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Cooper also hasn't really announced this to anyone, and That's

0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:42.160
<v Speaker 1>what we just spoke about before we came in here

0:47:42.719 --> 0:47:45.400
<v Speaker 1>of Cooper's like, I haven't really told anyone this, And

0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:47.440
<v Speaker 1>that's what a tear is saying. Because you don't have

0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:50.560
<v Speaker 1>that label, do you find it easier to just not drink?

0:47:51.280 --> 0:47:54.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just when people say john't have a drink, so

0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:59.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm not drinking, like okay, And how it really has

0:47:59.280 --> 0:47:59.880
<v Speaker 4>said much?

0:48:00.360 --> 0:48:02.640
<v Speaker 2>How did that go over silly season for you? Was

0:48:02.680 --> 0:48:05.279
<v Speaker 2>that a hard adjustment or after the first two weeks

0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:07.759
<v Speaker 2>it was super easy. Because I feel like a lot

0:48:07.760 --> 0:48:10.120
<v Speaker 2>of people will say, oh, I could never not drink,

0:48:10.320 --> 0:48:12.520
<v Speaker 2>or I don't drink. I only drink at events, and

0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:16.359
<v Speaker 2>December is obviously always full of events and New Year's

0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:17.880
<v Speaker 2>and that sort of stuff. And how did you go

0:48:18.320 --> 0:48:20.120
<v Speaker 2>over that period without alcohol?

0:48:20.840 --> 0:48:24.400
<v Speaker 4>It depends on who you hang out with. So I

0:48:24.520 --> 0:48:32.680
<v Speaker 4>found certain people mean you hanging out more, Yeah, like

0:48:32.760 --> 0:48:35.360
<v Speaker 4>those people that drink and need to have a drink.

0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:38.880
<v Speaker 4>Like I was a few people that I was around

0:48:39.080 --> 0:48:42.000
<v Speaker 4>and they were like, I just didn't understand, and I'm like,

0:48:42.040 --> 0:48:44.120
<v Speaker 4>I'm just I'm just not drinking, like I don't want

0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:45.480
<v Speaker 4>any Yeah, So they'd.

0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:48.239
<v Speaker 3>Be like, why because I don't want it?

0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:54.759
<v Speaker 4>I just so they wouldn't really affect me. Then from that,

0:48:55.200 --> 0:48:57.840
<v Speaker 4>you just don't want to be around those sorts of people,

0:48:57.920 --> 0:49:01.440
<v Speaker 4>So it channels you into hanging out with people that

0:49:01.560 --> 0:49:02.160
<v Speaker 4>don't drink.

0:49:03.000 --> 0:49:04.320
<v Speaker 3>You try and find those.

0:49:04.120 --> 0:49:09.160
<v Speaker 4>People and the support of people, or you're just like

0:49:09.239 --> 0:49:12.080
<v Speaker 4>I was just hanging out with my family and Ash

0:49:12.160 --> 0:49:15.439
<v Speaker 4>doesn't drink, so that was a lot easier. But yeah,

0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:19.520
<v Speaker 4>it's the influence around you is the biggest thing.

0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:24.839
<v Speaker 2>I love that me. Yeah, Georgie, why do you think

0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:28.080
<v Speaker 2>it's taken you so long to get to this point

0:49:28.719 --> 0:49:32.080
<v Speaker 2>of like, because I know you've been saying for a while,

0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:35.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm super curious. I'm super curious. I think even when

0:49:35.360 --> 0:49:39.760
<v Speaker 2>I started working here, I actually did say that. Yeah,

0:49:39.800 --> 0:49:42.960
<v Speaker 2>so that's a year. What's been like the block for you?

0:49:44.719 --> 0:49:46.279
<v Speaker 2>Let me sit with this and think about it.

0:49:48.320 --> 0:49:56.879
<v Speaker 1>I think I have used alcohol as a crutch as

0:49:57.360 --> 0:50:01.240
<v Speaker 1>like we were discussing previously, of you know, an escape

0:50:01.920 --> 0:50:07.560
<v Speaker 1>or for me to feel connected to certain people and

0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:11.839
<v Speaker 1>relationships and friendships. And also previously, like I was very

0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:14.560
<v Speaker 1>much in the mindset which I'm not gonna lie, I

0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:19.760
<v Speaker 1>still am of why can't I drink and then still

0:50:19.880 --> 0:50:23.759
<v Speaker 1>have the things, you know, if you even think of

0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:25.960
<v Speaker 1>my whole brand, it's like you can have it all vibes,

0:50:26.160 --> 0:50:29.080
<v Speaker 1>and so it's like, well, why can't I drink but

0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:31.480
<v Speaker 1>just have a couple and then still feel good the

0:50:31.520 --> 0:50:36.000
<v Speaker 1>next week? But then what's what I'm starting to realize.

0:50:35.640 --> 0:50:38.719
<v Speaker 2>Is I don't just have a couple. I have more

0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:39.440
<v Speaker 2>than a couple.

0:50:40.040 --> 0:50:42.680
<v Speaker 1>And also, if it is this whole, if you just

0:50:42.719 --> 0:50:45.640
<v Speaker 1>have a couple of drinks, Cooper has then challenged me

0:50:45.680 --> 0:50:48.800
<v Speaker 1>of like, but why even bother having the couple of drinks,

0:50:48.840 --> 0:50:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Like what's that Because.

0:50:50.040 --> 0:50:51.960
<v Speaker 2>You're not even getting drunk? Then at that point, are

0:50:52.000 --> 0:50:52.680
<v Speaker 2>you correct?

0:50:52.840 --> 0:50:56.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and still poison Like it's still a couple of drinks.

0:50:56.000 --> 0:50:57.640
<v Speaker 4>It is still going to poison your body.

0:50:57.800 --> 0:50:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and your system is still not going to be.

0:50:59.520 --> 0:51:01.839
<v Speaker 4>Like I'm gonna feel good tomorrow because I've only had

0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:04.640
<v Speaker 4>two drinks. Yeah, You're still going to get the effects

0:51:04.640 --> 0:51:05.560
<v Speaker 4>from it, You're just.

0:51:05.600 --> 0:51:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Not gonna feel as bad. Yeah.

0:51:08.120 --> 0:51:11.279
<v Speaker 1>So I think they're probably the two things that have

0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:12.680
<v Speaker 1>kept me.

0:51:13.320 --> 0:51:13.920
<v Speaker 2>And then the.

0:51:13.880 --> 0:51:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Big realization that I had what was that maybe like

0:51:17.080 --> 0:51:21.640
<v Speaker 1>a month ago, was at the moment I'm also working

0:51:21.640 --> 0:51:25.040
<v Speaker 1>with my coach on some things that I said to Cooper,

0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:28.640
<v Speaker 1>like very similar to him in regards to I feel

0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:31.280
<v Speaker 1>like I'm and because I'm doing like a little shadow

0:51:31.280 --> 0:51:33.400
<v Speaker 1>work at the moment, which like I've never done before,

0:51:33.400 --> 0:51:38.560
<v Speaker 1>so mentally it feels hard to me and sorry complicated.

0:51:38.760 --> 0:51:40.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So i feel like.

0:51:40.120 --> 0:51:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting these winds and aha moments and I'm uncovering

0:51:45.280 --> 0:51:48.319
<v Speaker 1>things and unpacking things, and I'm like going up the

0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:51.080
<v Speaker 1>ladder and then what was happening is I was drinking,

0:51:51.760 --> 0:51:55.160
<v Speaker 1>and then the next week I would almost fall back

0:51:55.200 --> 0:51:58.400
<v Speaker 1>down the ladder, like I would literally forget our har moments.

0:51:59.440 --> 0:52:02.279
<v Speaker 1>You'd forget them, yeah, and I'd have to go back

0:52:02.320 --> 0:52:06.719
<v Speaker 1>through like my voxa and like replace stuff and be like,

0:52:06.760 --> 0:52:09.200
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, like do you mean like it just it

0:52:09.400 --> 0:52:12.719
<v Speaker 1>made me foggy? Yeah, And I think it's always done that.

0:52:13.320 --> 0:52:17.560
<v Speaker 1>But because I have a goal and I have someone

0:52:18.400 --> 0:52:21.840
<v Speaker 1>who's making me accountable right now, and then also Cooper

0:52:21.960 --> 0:52:25.200
<v Speaker 1>who was going through it, and you know, him telling

0:52:25.239 --> 0:52:28.759
<v Speaker 1>me his experience and how he's feeling, and me resonating

0:52:28.840 --> 0:52:32.120
<v Speaker 1>and be like oh yeah, I actually, like I do

0:52:32.200 --> 0:52:32.839
<v Speaker 1>resonate with that.

0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:36.480
<v Speaker 4>And so it's not even You're just exposed to people

0:52:36.520 --> 0:52:38.560
<v Speaker 4>that are doing it. So I'm not really saying anything

0:52:38.640 --> 0:52:41.799
<v Speaker 4>to you, but you're seeing that what it's doing to me,

0:52:42.000 --> 0:52:46.680
<v Speaker 4>and you're buying it, Like you're now realizing that that's.

0:52:46.480 --> 0:52:49.080
<v Speaker 3>What I want. I want that in my life.

0:52:49.160 --> 0:52:54.040
<v Speaker 4>So it's like to expose yourself to those people like

0:52:54.840 --> 0:52:57.600
<v Speaker 4>that bring you up, which is what I'm gonna at, sorry,

0:52:58.400 --> 0:53:01.719
<v Speaker 4>like be around those people that you want to look

0:53:01.800 --> 0:53:04.200
<v Speaker 4>up to, and yeah, I.

0:53:04.160 --> 0:53:05.120
<v Speaker 3>All the people that.

0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:07.719
<v Speaker 1>I also think it has to be the right time

0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:10.239
<v Speaker 1>for you, because for example, I've been around a tier

0:53:10.360 --> 0:53:13.120
<v Speaker 1>who has never touched a drink for over a year,

0:53:14.040 --> 0:53:17.200
<v Speaker 1>and so it's it's like it's come to this like

0:53:17.360 --> 0:53:21.799
<v Speaker 1>central point of me realizing how much it's affecting my

0:53:21.920 --> 0:53:26.600
<v Speaker 1>personal development and also how important the personal development is

0:53:26.640 --> 0:53:27.399
<v Speaker 1>to me right now.

0:53:27.840 --> 0:53:28.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, definitely.

0:53:28.800 --> 0:53:31.919
<v Speaker 4>And then the journey you're on these little things where

0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:35.480
<v Speaker 4>you're having a drink and now I'm realizing that's just

0:53:35.520 --> 0:53:38.040
<v Speaker 4>your journey and that's the path that you need to

0:53:38.080 --> 0:53:40.480
<v Speaker 4>be on to get to where you where you want

0:53:40.480 --> 0:53:44.080
<v Speaker 4>to go. So you can't put yourself down for doing that,

0:53:44.120 --> 0:53:48.680
<v Speaker 4>because we all need to find those lows then correctress up.

0:53:48.719 --> 0:53:52.359
<v Speaker 1>And also I think it's like similar to Ukiper, It's

0:53:52.360 --> 0:53:55.239
<v Speaker 1>like I don't want to put a label on it,

0:53:55.920 --> 0:53:59.760
<v Speaker 1>but I want to have the autonomy to make a choice.

0:54:00.680 --> 0:54:03.480
<v Speaker 1>And it's like I felt like I haven't.

0:54:03.400 --> 0:54:06.840
<v Speaker 4>Like on that note, I'm not gonna go sober for

0:54:06.880 --> 0:54:09.960
<v Speaker 4>the rest of my life right now. It just this

0:54:10.040 --> 0:54:12.400
<v Speaker 4>is what feels right to me. And it's so great

0:54:12.600 --> 0:54:17.839
<v Speaker 4>that I've experienced not having alcohol and then I've got

0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:21.680
<v Speaker 4>that experience and now I'm so aware of it. So

0:54:22.440 --> 0:54:25.879
<v Speaker 4>because like I'm gonna have a beer. I'm gonna drink

0:54:25.960 --> 0:54:29.080
<v Speaker 4>later on, but just when it seems fit to me,

0:54:30.000 --> 0:54:34.400
<v Speaker 4>because I'm actually going on a boys strip in a

0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:40.279
<v Speaker 4>few months, and I was it's been going over my

0:54:40.400 --> 0:54:42.719
<v Speaker 4>head and I talked to Georgia about it, and you

0:54:42.760 --> 0:54:46.760
<v Speaker 4>have challenged me. But I appreciate your challenge of not drinking,

0:54:46.920 --> 0:54:51.759
<v Speaker 4>but I am doing my own thing of challenging myself

0:54:52.680 --> 0:54:56.319
<v Speaker 4>to having a beer. I'm gonna have a beer and

0:54:56.400 --> 0:54:59.319
<v Speaker 4>see how I feel and if I feel shit like

0:54:59.360 --> 0:55:02.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna drink, or if I feel good, I

0:55:02.239 --> 0:55:04.600
<v Speaker 4>know that I'm going to feel a lot better without

0:55:04.680 --> 0:55:07.920
<v Speaker 4>it the next week, or I don't know. Just like

0:55:08.600 --> 0:55:13.560
<v Speaker 4>I'm flowing with what suits me and my journey. So

0:55:13.600 --> 0:55:16.120
<v Speaker 4>I just yeah, like you said, there's no label. I'm

0:55:16.160 --> 0:55:22.000
<v Speaker 4>just gonna that's it. I've experienced what I've experienced, and.

0:55:22.640 --> 0:55:23.480
<v Speaker 3>I think forward.

0:55:23.800 --> 0:55:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I think it's though, think about like the cool thing

0:55:26.640 --> 0:55:31.600
<v Speaker 1>of bringing in the awareness about this. So, for example,

0:55:32.040 --> 0:55:35.480
<v Speaker 1>when Cooper said that he might drink on this boys trip, obviously,

0:55:35.520 --> 0:55:39.480
<v Speaker 1>my answer was but why, and we went, you know,

0:55:39.560 --> 0:55:43.080
<v Speaker 1>he answered, and I went, but why yeah, and you're

0:55:43.120 --> 0:55:45.839
<v Speaker 1>deep on it, yeah, and his answer, you know, it

0:55:45.920 --> 0:55:48.919
<v Speaker 1>was very interesting and I think that's still something that

0:55:49.560 --> 0:55:53.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, you will continue to unpack. But it's like,

0:55:53.480 --> 0:55:56.200
<v Speaker 1>at least we're having that conversation exactly. So it's like,

0:55:56.239 --> 0:55:58.840
<v Speaker 1>to me, it doesn't matter if Cooper drinks or doesn't drink,

0:55:59.200 --> 0:56:04.120
<v Speaker 1>but it's like us having that conversation beforehand, him diving

0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:04.759
<v Speaker 1>deeper and like.

0:56:04.840 --> 0:56:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Understanding and like being able to then make a choice too. Yeah.

0:56:10.040 --> 0:56:13.080
<v Speaker 2>I find the word sober interesting too though, because I

0:56:13.120 --> 0:56:15.920
<v Speaker 2>feel like there's a really big stigma around it. But

0:56:15.960 --> 0:56:17.759
<v Speaker 2>for me, it's like a state of being, Like I

0:56:17.840 --> 0:56:20.879
<v Speaker 2>would never describe myself as a sober person. I would

0:56:20.880 --> 0:56:24.920
<v Speaker 2>describe myself as someone that doesn't drink. For me, sober

0:56:24.960 --> 0:56:27.680
<v Speaker 2>only comes in if you're at an event and or

0:56:27.719 --> 0:56:30.880
<v Speaker 2>you're driving home or something and someone says, are you sober,

0:56:31.000 --> 0:56:33.240
<v Speaker 2>as in, do you have alcohol in your system currently

0:56:33.239 --> 0:56:35.839
<v Speaker 2>in the answer is no, it's not. I've never had

0:56:35.880 --> 0:56:38.880
<v Speaker 2>alcohol in my system and I never will. It's currently

0:56:39.040 --> 0:56:42.279
<v Speaker 2>right now, I don't have it. Yeah, that's interesting, and

0:56:42.360 --> 0:56:44.400
<v Speaker 2>I just find it interesting that a lot of people

0:56:44.719 --> 0:56:46.839
<v Speaker 2>get like there's a lot of pressure on a word

0:56:46.920 --> 0:56:50.440
<v Speaker 2>when that's not even what the word means. Yeah.

0:56:50.520 --> 0:56:53.160
<v Speaker 1>I love that, like looking into what's the actual language

0:56:53.160 --> 0:56:56.640
<v Speaker 1>around this? It's the axual definition. Mm.

0:56:57.719 --> 0:57:00.440
<v Speaker 2>So how do you feel indoor deep to end into

0:57:00.440 --> 0:57:03.080
<v Speaker 2>it the podcast feeling like I'm gonna have some shampagne

0:57:03.120 --> 0:57:03.560
<v Speaker 2>tomorrow and.

0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Release after this conversation, I need a champagne.

0:57:13.080 --> 0:57:14.560
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm Jack and Jack and Jackie.

0:57:15.080 --> 0:57:15.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:57:15.400 --> 0:57:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I think it's really cool, like to even have this

0:57:17.880 --> 0:57:20.560
<v Speaker 1>conversation with both of yous, just like really cool to

0:57:20.600 --> 0:57:23.400
<v Speaker 1>hear your in a tear and obviously Cooper, for you

0:57:23.440 --> 0:57:25.440
<v Speaker 1>to share on the podcast, and then for us to

0:57:25.560 --> 0:57:27.400
<v Speaker 1>continue our conversations about this.

0:57:27.560 --> 0:57:29.240
<v Speaker 2>It's really cool and it is so.

0:57:29.440 --> 0:57:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Right of it is interesting to think of, for example,

0:57:35.960 --> 0:57:40.800
<v Speaker 1>if we never had the drinking model to us and

0:57:40.880 --> 0:57:43.320
<v Speaker 1>it didn't feel like a condition similar to a tear.

0:57:44.120 --> 0:57:46.720
<v Speaker 1>How would we feel and how would we be with alcohol?

0:57:47.040 --> 0:57:50.240
<v Speaker 1>And that's just even something. And it's obviously like I

0:57:50.280 --> 0:57:53.280
<v Speaker 1>truly believe you pick your parents and you pick your

0:57:53.360 --> 0:57:55.880
<v Speaker 1>journey here. So I'm not questioning that.

0:57:56.720 --> 0:57:57.800
<v Speaker 3>You pick your parents.

0:57:58.120 --> 0:58:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I believe when you come in as a soul,

0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:03.000
<v Speaker 1>you pick your parents to learn certain lessons.

0:58:04.480 --> 0:58:10.320
<v Speaker 2>That's cool. Yeah, anyway, you're welcome, mom, You're welcome mom,

0:58:10.320 --> 0:58:19.600
<v Speaker 2>and dad. I am a hashtag blessing. Yep.

0:58:19.640 --> 0:58:23.200
<v Speaker 1>It just looks away And so I'm like, that's even

0:58:23.240 --> 0:58:26.480
<v Speaker 1>a cool question to think about, because it is you're

0:58:26.520 --> 0:58:28.800
<v Speaker 1>so ratit here like it is, it's conditioning.

0:58:29.240 --> 0:58:32.120
<v Speaker 2>So it's like if you really get to the crux of.

0:58:32.000 --> 0:58:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Like why you drink and what are the you know,

0:58:35.920 --> 0:58:40.560
<v Speaker 1>reasons of then questioning those reasons any last thoughts or questions.

0:58:40.800 --> 0:58:44.080
<v Speaker 3>Coop, we would have drunk. But if they didn't drink,

0:58:45.880 --> 0:58:47.120
<v Speaker 3>we are we.

0:58:47.080 --> 0:58:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Would have drunk.

0:58:48.400 --> 0:58:56.360
<v Speaker 4>You're okay, Yeah, the stress levels and the high level lifestyle,

0:58:56.520 --> 0:58:58.600
<v Speaker 4>we like, it's just.

0:58:59.040 --> 0:59:02.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but maybe something maybe if we maybe if we

0:59:02.600 --> 0:59:04.160
<v Speaker 5>didn't have the same parents, it would.

0:59:03.920 --> 0:59:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Be so stressed. Well, that's it, definitely, No, we joke,

0:59:11.960 --> 0:59:13.160
<v Speaker 2>we joke we love our birds.

0:59:14.120 --> 0:59:15.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, we definitely do.

0:59:15.800 --> 0:59:19.400
<v Speaker 4>But that's how they've lived their life and that's how

0:59:19.480 --> 0:59:19.760
<v Speaker 4>we are.

0:59:20.120 --> 0:59:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very cool. Well, I feel very excited because very much.

0:59:24.800 --> 0:59:27.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, I fucking love a challenge, goober. Anyone tells

0:59:27.800 --> 0:59:31.800
<v Speaker 1>me you can't do something, I'm like, let's go. So now,

0:59:31.840 --> 0:59:34.000
<v Speaker 1>you guys have this kind of feels like a bit

0:59:34.040 --> 0:59:37.720
<v Speaker 1>of a challenge. And in saying that, I do want

0:59:37.760 --> 0:59:40.840
<v Speaker 1>to say I like, I personally.

0:59:40.600 --> 0:59:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Want to be able to move.

0:59:42.040 --> 0:59:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Through life and not like you're saying, have like have

0:59:46.840 --> 0:59:50.000
<v Speaker 1>to just subscribe to a label and have to identify.

0:59:50.120 --> 0:59:52.080
<v Speaker 1>And it's like I just get to be me and

0:59:52.200 --> 0:59:56.240
<v Speaker 1>serve me and make sure I'm asking myself these questions.

0:59:56.520 --> 0:59:57.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah I do.

0:59:57.640 --> 1:00:00.560
<v Speaker 4>I want to challenge you on here, Georgia, to do

1:00:00.840 --> 1:00:02.840
<v Speaker 4>to challenge yourself.

1:00:03.200 --> 1:00:04.760
<v Speaker 3>This is for yourself as.

1:00:05.000 --> 1:00:09.240
<v Speaker 4>When there is an event or something where you think

1:00:09.280 --> 1:00:12.960
<v Speaker 4>you are going to be challenged to drink, like, challenge

1:00:12.960 --> 1:00:18.040
<v Speaker 4>yourself and ask yourself those questions of do I need

1:00:18.120 --> 1:00:21.000
<v Speaker 4>to how do I need to perform the next week,

1:00:21.160 --> 1:00:22.400
<v Speaker 4>how do I want to feel?

1:00:23.040 --> 1:00:23.200
<v Speaker 3>Like?

1:00:24.120 --> 1:00:28.720
<v Speaker 4>Are these like drinking on that event? Do I need

1:00:29.120 --> 1:00:32.400
<v Speaker 4>to be drunk at this event with these people? And

1:00:32.440 --> 1:00:34.000
<v Speaker 4>what am I going to get out of it? Like,

1:00:34.120 --> 1:00:39.840
<v Speaker 4>ask all these questions and then that'll guide yourself. So yeah,

1:00:39.880 --> 1:00:40.560
<v Speaker 4>I'm challenging.

1:00:41.280 --> 1:00:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you heard it here. I got it here.

1:00:44.120 --> 1:00:48.080
<v Speaker 1>First, I'm challenging you.

1:00:48.880 --> 1:00:51.320
<v Speaker 2>It sounds good, I'll do it.

1:00:51.400 --> 1:00:56.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the opposite. Yeah, scrap.

1:00:59.160 --> 1:00:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Guys.

1:00:59.640 --> 1:01:01.960
<v Speaker 1>If you have enjoyed this chat, make sure you come

1:01:01.960 --> 1:01:03.960
<v Speaker 1>to our Facebook group. We're going to have a post there.

1:01:04.080 --> 1:01:06.600
<v Speaker 1>I just would love to hear your thoughts and yeah,

1:01:06.680 --> 1:01:09.280
<v Speaker 1>let's just like open up the conversation, let's challenge ourselves.

1:01:09.360 --> 1:01:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Let's question.

1:01:10.880 --> 1:01:13.160
<v Speaker 1>But also I just want to preface and just say

1:01:13.680 --> 1:01:15.960
<v Speaker 1>when we're talking about this, like, if you are someone

1:01:15.960 --> 1:01:19.280
<v Speaker 1>who drink, this is not us shaming you no or

1:01:19.760 --> 1:01:21.880
<v Speaker 1>trying to make you feel guilty or anything like that.

1:01:21.920 --> 1:01:25.240
<v Speaker 1>We're literally just we're talking about our experiences. We're talking

1:01:25.280 --> 1:01:29.120
<v Speaker 1>about currently, what we're processing and what's happening in our

1:01:29.160 --> 1:01:31.200
<v Speaker 1>brains and just bringing you on the journey.

1:01:31.560 --> 1:01:31.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:01:31.840 --> 1:01:34.960
<v Speaker 4>I would actually like to know what everyone else thinks

1:01:35.240 --> 1:01:40.960
<v Speaker 4>and be open about their journey and where they're wanting

1:01:41.000 --> 1:01:42.280
<v Speaker 4>to go and.

1:01:41.880 --> 1:01:45.560
<v Speaker 2>Where they're at. And if that's living your best life party,

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<v Speaker 2>then do it? Love that for yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if you need to do that, then that's fun.

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<v Speaker 4>Like if everyone's on their own journey about this combo,

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<v Speaker 4>be open.

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<v Speaker 3>It's nice.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I'll go have some water.

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