Speaker 1: I'd like to acknowledge the traditional owners on which this
Speaker 1: episode is being recorded, the combo marry people. We pay
Speaker 1: our respects to elders past, present and emerging, and extend
Speaker 1: that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.
Speaker 1: Today I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson, and this is the
Speaker 1: Rise and Conquer podcast. This is the podcast where which
Speaker 1: have mindset, self development and becoming your higher self mix
Speaker 1: soon with a lot of laughs, plus behind the scenes
Speaker 1: of my life running two businesses and being among Think
Speaker 1: of us as the perfect combo of brunch with your
Speaker 1: besties mixed with self development. No matter where you are
Speaker 1: in your journey, we're here to help you be curious,
Speaker 1: pull yourself out, and embrace radical self awareness.
Speaker 2: If you're ready to get into.
Speaker 1: The driver's seat of your own life and stop letting
Speaker 1: life past you by, then you're in the right place.
Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the RNC Potty. Today,
Speaker 1: we have an episode that you.
Speaker 2: Have all been waiting for.
Speaker 1: We kind of easter egged this a while back and
Speaker 1: said that we were going to chat about going sober
Speaker 1: or sober curious, and so here we are today. This
Speaker 1: episode is really interesting because we have a tea has
Speaker 1: never had a drip of alcohol in her life because
Speaker 1: of religious beliefs and personal beliefs. Cooper has recently gone sober,
Speaker 1: even though he's kind of not calling it sober.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just saying he's not drinking at the moment.
Speaker 1: For self development reasons.
Speaker 2: And g over here she's like, why can't I have
Speaker 2: it all?
Speaker 1: No, you guys know, I have been sober curious, and
Speaker 1: it's just like, it's a conversation that I want to
Speaker 1: have because and I tell you, guys, in this episode,
Speaker 1: I don't really know where I stand with it, like
Speaker 1: I do, but I don't. But also that's you know
Speaker 1: what's really interesting is when you don't know, I find
Speaker 1: it's really easy to not have the conversation, yeah, because
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I just don't really want to talk
Speaker 1: about it because I actually don't know. Yeah, but that's
Speaker 1: why I want to have the conversation, because I'm like, cool,
Speaker 1: let's unpack this. And also I just love how brutal
Speaker 1: Cooper is in this episode. He's like, does not help back,
Speaker 1: so does not hold back. He's got all the hard questions.
Speaker 1: But again, we just want to do a bit of
Speaker 1: like a trigger warning on this episode. We want to
Speaker 1: be so clear we are not shaming or guiltying anyone
Speaker 1: who currently drinks or sober or you know, any of
Speaker 1: the things. Again, this is just a thought provoking episode
Speaker 1: because I think it's just I think drinking is so normalized,
Speaker 1: especially in Australian culture, whin drinking is very normalized. I
Speaker 1: you know, tell you in this episode of like I
Speaker 1: my go to is bite drinking, and I just thought
Speaker 1: that was like a normal thing. And so it's kind
Speaker 1: of just getting you guys to think about how you
Speaker 1: guys drink alcohol and just you know, the different sides
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: But we thought this was.
Speaker 1: A really cool episode because of the different opinions and
Speaker 1: everything coming in. And again, like I said, I still
Speaker 1: kind of don't know where I stand with this, But
Speaker 1: it's just I'm being very vulnerable and raw and real
Speaker 1: and so as a tear, and so is Cooper, and
Speaker 1: it's just bringing you a cool conversation.
Speaker 2: And it's interesting to hear because since we.
Speaker 1: Actually recorded the episode, because as you guys know, we
Speaker 1: record them ahead of time because we are productive galicy,
Speaker 1: We're prepared.
Speaker 2: We are prepared.
Speaker 1: So I went to Morgan Wollen and I had a
Speaker 1: champagne at dinner because we had like oysters, a bougie dinner,
Speaker 1: and champagne is my favorite thing ever and it's like
Speaker 1: a little celebration thing for me. So I had a
Speaker 1: faster champagne at dinner.
Speaker 2: Love that.
Speaker 1: And then we went to the concert and I had
Speaker 1: one gin and tonic pink gin actually, and then Tim
Speaker 1: asked me if I wanted to have another.
Speaker 2: Drink and I was like, nah, I'm proud at you.
Speaker 2: I'm done.
Speaker 1: And then I got a water bottle. And then Tim
Speaker 1: and Charlie, who I went to the concert with, continued.
Speaker 1: I think they they probably would have had about twelve
Speaker 1: drinks while we were there, and but like they're, you know,
Speaker 1: four grown mailmen, so they were like fine, I.
Speaker 2: Didn't understand how much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like babe, And every single time they went
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I'm all good.
Speaker 2: So I literally had two drinks, had a lot of water.
Speaker 1: After the concert, they were vibing and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm going to go back home.
Speaker 2: So I went back to the hotel.
Speaker 1: Went about at like eleven, work up, feeling fresh. Love
Speaker 1: that they got home at three m they were not
Speaker 1: feeling fresh, and I just loved it because I had
Speaker 1: the I had a really fun time. It was I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie like it. It was different, but again
Speaker 1: I don't think different is bad. Yeah, and it was
Speaker 1: just different because like most other times, you know, I'll
Speaker 1: have like you know, six maybe eight drinks. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's like me on that level, and so it was
Speaker 1: just it was a different experience. But I had a
Speaker 1: lot of fun and I loved that I could stop
Speaker 1: after two because in the episode I explained, like it
Speaker 1: has My whole thing is I go, you know, I
Speaker 1: go to events. I'm like, oh, I'm just gonna have
Speaker 1: a few, But once I start drinking, there's like kind
Speaker 1: of this like limit, and then it's I forget that
Speaker 1: I'm having a few and I don't stop, which we can.
Speaker 2: I'm sure we can all resonate.
Speaker 1: And yeah, so that was a really cool concept of
Speaker 1: me being like, oh, I actually can be integral of ione.
Speaker 2: Am gonna have a couple of drinks.
Speaker 1: And it was good because I felt like I enjoyed
Speaker 1: myself and yeah, so that's why I'm not too I
Speaker 1: do have a wedding coming.
Speaker 2: Up, so that'll be interesting. Maybe ask me on that week.
Speaker 1: I yeah, it's at the end of April, but yes,
Speaker 1: So anyway, guys, I think you're really gonna love this episode. Again,
Speaker 1: I would love to hear your guys' thoughts on this,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna do a Facebook post in the RNC
Speaker 1: Facebook community. There's a link in the show notes if
Speaker 1: you're not in there, because generally like no guilt, shame.
Speaker 1: I just would love to know where people are at
Speaker 1: with this and if it has been on their mind.
Speaker 2: Like it has been online. What I love about this
Speaker 2: episode two is that I don't think I've ever heard
Speaker 2: someone feel comfortable like you have to to talk about
Speaker 2: it while they're still making the decision. It's always afterwards
Speaker 2: and a reflection of their process, which this episode isn't.
Speaker 2: Like you're very much still in two minds about going
Speaker 2: sober or not and having that like very I feel
Speaker 2: like a lot of people who are considering going sober,
Speaker 2: that's exactly the thoughts they'll be having. And because it's
Speaker 2: not a reflection of I've gone through this and this
Speaker 2: is how I did it, it's like, this is what
Speaker 2: I'm thinking right now. That's what I'd love Mmmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I like, well, you know, of course I'm
Speaker 1: going to be so honest with you guys. And I
Speaker 1: did have that thought of like, oh, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I want to bring this to the podcast because
Speaker 1: I haven't fully processed it.
Speaker 2: I haven't fully worked through it.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, nah, we're not doing that. Like I'm
Speaker 1: just I get to be me. I get to tell
Speaker 1: you what I'm experiencing because I know a lot of
Speaker 1: you guys will be experiencing that too. Yeah, and again,
Speaker 1: I think a big thing is like having these conversations.
Speaker 2: Because it is it's kind of a hard conversation for me,
Speaker 2: So please be nice.
Speaker 3: Guys.
Speaker 2: Love that weekly Rex a tea. Mine's bit left field.
Speaker 2: Tell me. I would like to recommend, if you're feeling
Speaker 2: like you want to get out of your comfort zone,
Speaker 2: for people to watch a Bollywood movie, just any so random?
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have an actual Bollywood movie that you recommend?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: It just depends what vibe you're in. How do you
Speaker 2: find them? Like heaps on Netflix Crime. One of my
Speaker 2: favorites is called Gubby Gushy Gubby Gum. But it's a intense.
Speaker 2: So if you're not after intense, I wouldn't go there.
Speaker 2: There's another good one called Dos Dana which is also
Speaker 2: on Netflix. That one's a bit more of a comedy,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I watched. Or if you don't want to
Speaker 2: watch that and you want to watch something English, there's
Speaker 2: a series called The Romantics on Netflix which actually documents
Speaker 2: the bts of one of the like the biggest producer
Speaker 2: in Bollywood film Oh wow, yeah, which I love as well.
Speaker 2: We love a random rac I know, really random. It's
Speaker 2: you've got to be wanting to get out of your
Speaker 2: comfort zone. Yeah, and look that's rek my reck. What's yours?
Speaker 1: I have a bit of a I come in. I'm
Speaker 1: doing all the self development rex R.
Speaker 2: I love it, carrying the team.
Speaker 1: My recommendation is to re look at and revise, or
Speaker 1: even if you've never done this, get clear on your boundaries,
Speaker 1: So your boundaries with you know, your partner, your husband,
Speaker 1: your spouse or if yeah, if you have one.
Speaker 2: Your boundaries, you know you don't have to worry about
Speaker 2: that one.
Speaker 4: To do.
Speaker 2: Better? How good? One last, easier, easier?
Speaker 1: Get clear on like your boundaries in regards to your colleagues,
Speaker 1: or like your what do you call employee?
Speaker 2: Employees? Wow, what didn't I forget?
Speaker 5: Them.
Speaker 2: It's because they just think we're best friend. We are
Speaker 2: your friends.
Speaker 1: Like you know your parents. Because it's interesting. I've actually
Speaker 1: been doing this recently, and even though I would had
Speaker 1: like I would had, I would had sorry associated myself
Speaker 1: if someone with strong boundaries, Yeah, I actually wasn't fully
Speaker 1: clear on them. Like I kind of knew them, but
Speaker 1: I wasn't fully clear. So to actually like write about
Speaker 1: them is like a whole other thing. And just to
Speaker 1: kind of know your boundaries and where you're currently at
Speaker 1: is really really cool. Because also a big thing that
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about is like, you know, what are
Speaker 1: you entertaining?
Speaker 2: So are you saying you, you know, don't like.
Speaker 1: Drama, but you're also entertaining having really shit boundaries with
Speaker 1: your friends?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then there's drama. Or are you saying that
Speaker 2: you want.
Speaker 1: A relationship that feels really stable and like a partnership,
Speaker 1: but you and your partner have never spoken about boundaries
Speaker 1: or like being really clear on your communication with like
Speaker 1: money or you know, those kind of like hard conversations.
Speaker 1: I think it's just very interesting because again I thought
Speaker 1: of myself someone with strong boundaries, but then it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I actually hadn't.
Speaker 2: Fully set them. Yeah, that's so interesting.
Speaker 1: And that's even like I was thinking, even you know,
Speaker 1: with team MATEA, like I hadn't really like I haven't
Speaker 1: really set boundaries with you guys, even though I think
Speaker 1: you know them.
Speaker 2: But it's even the big thing of.
Speaker 1: Having that conversation, yeah, to make it explicit, because I
Speaker 1: think sometimes again, having that conversation is kind of the
Speaker 1: scary part. But then I've been having a lot of
Speaker 1: conversations with Tim recently about boundaries, and like I've been
Speaker 1: with him for nearly eleven years and we're having some
Speaker 1: of our first conversations about boundaries.
Speaker 2: And it's interesting.
Speaker 1: Because there was one that happened the other day, and
Speaker 1: first of all, he got a bit defensive because he
Speaker 1: thought I was like getting up him, and I was like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: like I just want to be clear with this. I
Speaker 1: don't think you did something wrong, Like I just I
Speaker 1: want to bring it up and talk about it so
Speaker 1: you know, and we're both clear so we can move
Speaker 1: past past this and both.
Speaker 2: Just be so clear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And he was like, oh okay, and then we
Speaker 1: had the conversation and now we're.
Speaker 2: Like, oh cool, we know. Yeah, so true and even
Speaker 2: like you know.
Speaker 1: I don't think it has to be a bad conversation,
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of fear about having.
Speaker 2: Conversations around boundaries.
Speaker 1: So true, because it's like you think it's limiting yourself
Speaker 1: with people, or limiting your time or limiting your energy,
Speaker 1: but it's actually giving you energy because you're.
Speaker 2: So clear now. I think, yeah, it is an uncomfortable
Speaker 2: conversation because I thought of me sitting down with like,
Speaker 2: for example, some of my friends and being like, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to reply to you quick or that sort
Speaker 2: of stuff. It's like, people will go, is it worth
Speaker 2: having the conversation because they probably know I'm a bit
Speaker 2: slow and replying and that sort of stuff, But the
Speaker 2: clarity is so important And.
Speaker 1: Do they know or do they when you don't reply
Speaker 1: in three days?
Speaker 2: Think fuck? Do they like me?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So true. That's too weird, yeah.
Speaker 1: Because you're probably not thinking that, but also you don't
Speaker 1: know how the other person thinks.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So sure.
Speaker 1: So that's a conversation I had to have with my
Speaker 1: mum of like, oh my god, if I don't message
Speaker 1: you back in a week, it's probably just because I'm
Speaker 1: so busy at work.
Speaker 2: It's not because I don't love you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's and like she needed to hear that, so
Speaker 1: she's like, okay, cool, Yeah she's not angry at me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my gosh. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So but see how interesting, Like that's such a small conversation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but how much we don't have it.
Speaker 2: I love that everybody have this uncomfortable biometree conversation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd love to do a whole episode on it
Speaker 1: because I think it's it's a cool concept, but I've
Speaker 1: been like, yeah, look into my boundaries lately.
Speaker 6: All right, guys, let's get into the episode.
Speaker 1: Before we get straight into it, let's just go around
Speaker 1: introduce ourselves so everyone knows who's talking their voices and
Speaker 1: also say if you know where you're currently at with alcohol.
Speaker 1: So my name is Georgie. I am sober curious, I'm
Speaker 1: not sober. Well yeah, anyway, it's a complicated. I'm in
Speaker 1: a complicated relationship with alcohol. But this is what this
Speaker 1: whole episode is about. And yeah, I guess I'm just
Speaker 1: like sober curious, but I'm not sober and also have.
Speaker 2: Been drinking since I was fourteen, So there's that. Shut
Speaker 2: up you go next.
Speaker 4: Hello, my name is Cooper. My relationship with alcohol has
Speaker 4: changed recently. I started drinking when I was sixteen.
Speaker 3: Like a normal person, I.
Speaker 2: Think it's eighteen to be normal. But sure, what eighteen
Speaker 2: it's illegal age.
Speaker 4: You know, normal, I say, legally weird as a teenager?
Speaker 3: Yeah, fourteen issues?
Speaker 1: Are you judging me or shaming me?
Speaker 3: As a brother?
Speaker 2: Yes, we're past that point, thank you.
Speaker 4: Recently I stopped drinking. It was the start of December
Speaker 4: last year.
Speaker 2: Wo you did Silly Season without alcohol?
Speaker 3: Yeah? That pretty good? Now?
Speaker 4: I was all right, yeah it was pretty good. But yeah,
Speaker 4: that's where I'm at.
Speaker 2: Okay, cool A tear. I'm a tear and I have
Speaker 2: never had a drip sip of alcohol drink never. I've
Speaker 2: never had alcohol for religious reasons and I think also
Speaker 2: just a lot of my family never did, so I
Speaker 2: just wasn't exposed to it, I guess, can I ask?
Speaker 1: So, when you went to your uncle's wedding last year,
Speaker 1: was there any alcohol at the wedding?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Interesting, like, no one in my family drinks.
Speaker 3: Did people dance?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I feel like this is showing the relationship we have
Speaker 2: without I think interesting, Like it was a lunchtime wedding,
Speaker 2: so there was like a bit of dancing, but at
Speaker 2: one of the functions before the wedding, we have a
Speaker 2: lot of people got up and danced and there was
Speaker 2: no alcohol there.
Speaker 1: Interesting, and so you've just never been interested. No, do
Speaker 1: you think you'll ever taste alcohol?
Speaker 2: I just know I don't think so. I just don't
Speaker 2: think it's for me. I think I have so much
Speaker 2: fun without it, and I think I've learnt how to
Speaker 2: have a lot of fun without it, So I don't
Speaker 2: see the necessity. Like, I'm just good with one of
Speaker 2: you guys pre workout shots whenever I go out. That's
Speaker 2: what I date. Some good shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, amazing. So now you know who's in
Speaker 1: this potty and where we're all currently at. And I
Speaker 1: really wanted to bring this conversation to the potty because
Speaker 1: I have been sober.
Speaker 2: Curious, and I just I think it's very interesting.
Speaker 1: Because me and Cooper come from a background where, like
Speaker 1: I said, I'm like I started drinking when I was fourteen,
Speaker 1: going out to parties with friends like binge drinking teen
Speaker 1: drinking Cooper's sixteen. And then also we grew out where
Speaker 1: you know, my dad used to have what four beers
Speaker 1: a night, four to six are n four to six beers.
Speaker 2: A night and like that was just normal to us.
Speaker 1: And also I have three older brothers, so two other
Speaker 1: brothers and Cooper who all are in the same you know,
Speaker 1: they do.
Speaker 2: The same, they do the same.
Speaker 1: So for me, even the thought of going sober, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie, it kind of terrifies me because it
Speaker 1: feels like so ingrained in the roots of how I
Speaker 1: was brought up and everything. But I do have, like
Speaker 1: I have started to realize, and Cooper has helped me
Speaker 1: a lot in realizing I do have a very complicated
Speaker 1: relationship with alcohol because I don't drink it because I
Speaker 1: enjoy the taste. I drink it to get drunk.
Speaker 2: And feel a certain way interesting. Dear.
Speaker 1: Sure, and I think that's actually, like, I think that's
Speaker 1: a very normal I wouldn't I am not using normal here, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people would resonate with that,
Speaker 1: and and I'm not gonna lie. For a long time,
Speaker 1: I was so happy with that and it was fine
Speaker 1: and like as you said, like it was for me
Speaker 1: and I was fine with that and i was fine relationship.
Speaker 1: But I guess as I'm becoming more conscious and working
Speaker 1: with a coach this year, I've just had things come
Speaker 1: up and realized my relationship with alcohol can be problematic.
Speaker 2: And also I'm realizing the effects it has.
Speaker 1: On me, for you know, one of the first times
Speaker 1: I guess but I have this, you know, I feel
Speaker 1: quite like I don't want to be like, oh well,
Speaker 1: I want to go sober because for me, that doesn't
Speaker 1: even feel like it's doable right now.
Speaker 2: And I just.
Speaker 1: Want to be very honest like where I'm at. But
Speaker 1: also I want to open up these conversations because I
Speaker 1: feel like, just I haven't really heard a conversation like this,
Speaker 1: and I want to explore it and keep talking about
Speaker 1: it and let it all evolve.
Speaker 2: It's funny how you describe the thought of going sober,
Speaker 2: because for me, that that toa skit I am of drinking,
Speaker 2: Like I don't know anything else than not. Isn't that
Speaker 2: so interesting?
Speaker 1: Of like it's so polar Yeah, And it's how you're conditioned, yeah,
Speaker 1: and modeled.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't you want to experience the things in life there?
Speaker 2: But I feel experiences I can do that without alcohol.
Speaker 1: And that's like Cooper, that's like saying you can't win.
Speaker 4: It with alcohol, because that's not an experience without it.
Speaker 1: But She's saying she's not interested in the experiences that involve.
Speaker 2: Alcohol, Like so many people go through their whole lives
Speaker 2: without doing drugs and they don't feel like they've missed
Speaker 2: out on anything. How's alcohol?
Speaker 3: They don't know?
Speaker 4: Yeah, an experience, Like when you do an experience, you
Speaker 4: don't know until you do it, and that's an experience.
Speaker 4: So yeah, but that was just my question to you,
Speaker 4: why is it You're not like, why would you not
Speaker 4: want to experience it?
Speaker 2: I just feel like the experiences, or at least what
Speaker 2: I see of alcohol, it just doesn't interest me because
Speaker 2: I just don't think it's like where I want to
Speaker 2: go or i'd want to do. So it's like not.
Speaker 4: Ye, but yes, it's a good point in life, like
Speaker 4: we should all experience stuff at least once.
Speaker 2: So then you're like, it's just definitely not the top
Speaker 2: of my list.
Speaker 1: But also I'm going to challenge you on that, Cooper though,
Speaker 1: because it's for example, I know skydiving is not for me,
Speaker 1: and I just never want to go skydiving, and I'm
Speaker 1: just like, I'm just not interested yet and I do,
Speaker 1: and that's what I want to premise this whole episode
Speaker 1: of Yet. But it's kind of like, yeah, yeah, look
Speaker 1: at my go skydiving one day. But I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's just not for.
Speaker 2: Me, and I think that's where I am at too.
Speaker 2: It's just definitely not for me. And all the benefits
Speaker 2: I've heard of alcohol I do without, so I don't.
Speaker 2: I haven't found that like why yet as to why
Speaker 2: want to experience it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm going to quickly jump in here and
Speaker 1: just talk about why my relationship with alcohol is complicated
Speaker 1: and what.
Speaker 2: I'm currently exploring.
Speaker 1: And Guys, I'm being very raw and vulnerable with you,
Speaker 1: like I'm not yet finished in my process of this.
Speaker 1: So I want you to just be like very generous
Speaker 1: with how what you think of me, if that makes sense,
Speaker 1: because I'm just I want to be very open. So
Speaker 1: I'm starting to realize when I drink alcohol, there is
Speaker 1: a side of me that comes out that it very
Speaker 1: much feels like the fun Georgie.
Speaker 2: It's the fund.
Speaker 1: Georgie who has no worries, who doesn't own two businesses,
Speaker 1: who doesn't have a child, and she's in the moment
Speaker 1: and she's very free, and that's the vibe. And so
Speaker 1: what I am currently struggling with is I don't want
Speaker 1: this side of me to be the any time it
Speaker 1: comes out is when I'm drinking alcohol and how to
Speaker 1: integrate let's just call it fun Georgie into my life
Speaker 1: now so I don't feel.
Speaker 2: Like I need to drink.
Speaker 1: And it's just very interesting to me though, because it
Speaker 1: doesn't feel that doesn't feel comfortable or like that doesn't
Speaker 1: even feel like. I was talking to my best friend
Speaker 1: about it and she's like, well, why don't you try,
Speaker 1: like you know how.
Speaker 2: Ellie does the heels class, yeah.
Speaker 1: Or like you know, I'm very in my masculine energy
Speaker 1: all the time, so like getting more into my fem
Speaker 1: energy where I can be more present. But it's just interesting.
Speaker 1: It's like that doesn't really appeal to me. So I'm
Speaker 1: trying to figure out, you know, why this different side
Speaker 1: comes out to me when I'm unconscious, and it's obviously
Speaker 1: because it's a part of me, but I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I guess I'm playing with that. And then also on
Speaker 1: top of that is realizing how I'm feeling after the fact.
Speaker 1: So when I drink the week after, I'm a bit spatsy,
Speaker 1: like my whole mood change, doesn't it coober.
Speaker 4: It does, at least until Thursday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like that's just not how I want my
Speaker 1: life to feel. Is you know, I drink, I'm free,
Speaker 1: I'm in the moment, but then the whole next week,
Speaker 1: I feel like I can't show up as a business
Speaker 1: owner and a mother and that's just like not the vibe.
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to really be like, well, it's just
Speaker 1: not serving me. So it's also really interesting that I
Speaker 1: can't just go sober because that thought, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, like that thought, I'm like, bit, why can't
Speaker 1: I have both?
Speaker 2: But then I like I can understand why. That sounds
Speaker 2: a bit silly, But yeah.
Speaker 4: For me back before, it was an escape, and I
Speaker 4: know that's what it would be for you with our
Speaker 4: stressful life. But it's to dive deep on that why
Speaker 4: are you escaping your life? So these are the questions
Speaker 4: you need to ask yourself, Like that's what it is.
Speaker 4: Like you go, you drink, and your whole life dissolves.
Speaker 4: All the stress is to dissolve and you escape and
Speaker 4: it's nice and then you get that relief. So it's
Speaker 4: that's the question, why are you drinking alcohol? It's like
Speaker 4: what are you escaping from? And that's they're the issues
Speaker 4: you need to look at.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what I've realized is and that's why
Speaker 1: it's like, how do I integrate that into my life
Speaker 1: so I don't feel like I have to escape? And
Speaker 1: I just I do want to preface this and be like, guys,
Speaker 1: it's not like I'm like wanting to drink all the time,
Speaker 1: like I at the moment, I probably drink what once
Speaker 1: a month or.
Speaker 4: Oh what, okay, once a month, don't I drink maybe
Speaker 4: once a fortnight.
Speaker 2: When was the last time I drank?
Speaker 3: Oh, but you're conscious now of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but for that, I feel like I've only drunk
Speaker 1: once a month.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, it's not much.
Speaker 1: I was about to say, it's not much. It's not
Speaker 1: like I'm drinking every single night. That's what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get at.
Speaker 4: It would be no, it would just be if you
Speaker 4: have stuff on the weekends, and I feel like you
Speaker 4: would have like a sprint of weekends one after the other,
Speaker 4: and then you would just have a good break And
Speaker 4: I feel like that's kind of how it goes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it would just be various weekends events. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm just trying to preface this. It's not like
Speaker 1: I'm an alcoholic. That's what I'm trying to get. But
Speaker 1: it is very interesting because it is something where one
Speaker 1: hundred percent cooper It is like an escape of when
Speaker 1: I drink. And I think also why my relationship feels
Speaker 1: a bit complicated is so when I start drinking, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm gonna have one or two drinks
Speaker 1: then stop. And then I start drinking and I just
Speaker 1: have so much.
Speaker 2: Fun that I can't stop.
Speaker 1: And then I'm always the person who's like, you know,
Speaker 1: buying rounds for a run, we're doing shots shots.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you are that gram I am that person. You've
Speaker 2: seen it. Yeah, you always buy me a water.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, guys, I got tequila shots, but I
Speaker 1: got a tear of water.
Speaker 2: I got your own.
Speaker 1: No, I was buying you juices at one point. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I get a bit excitable, and I am that person.
Speaker 1: And that's even something I'm diving deep on of. I
Speaker 1: think that's the reason why I am so curious because
Speaker 1: I am finding it a little bit difficult that once
Speaker 1: I start drinking, I do end up binge drinking, which
Speaker 1: again I'm just a point in my life around like
Speaker 1: this isn't really the vibe.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you think you also maybe feel a bit
Speaker 2: of shame of integrating fun Georgie into your everyday life
Speaker 2: because of the responsibilities you have though, that's why it's
Speaker 2: so hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't feel natural to me to integrate fun Georgie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it feels, to be very honest, it feels
Speaker 1: like I have so much pressure and responsibilities in my
Speaker 1: life that it feels like I don't have the space
Speaker 1: for that, which is probably which is the issue. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's something I yeah, am working on and trying
Speaker 1: to figure out.
Speaker 2: Maybe you need to surrender. Yeah, does alcohol help you surrender?
Speaker 2: Do you reckon? Or no? Just brings out fun Georgie. No,
Speaker 2: it's just fun Georgie.
Speaker 1: But then it's like it's not that fun because then
Speaker 1: the whole week after I feel like crap, and it
Speaker 1: really affects my moods, really affects my moods, and I
Speaker 1: often feel a week after drinking, I often feel quite
Speaker 1: like depresso, very sad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was so cooped.
Speaker 1: You want to maybe chat about your process of being
Speaker 1: sober at the moment and what that looked like and
Speaker 1: why you decided to become sober.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure.
Speaker 4: So I started to see a coach and we both
Speaker 4: dove on trauma and what sort of coach who's a
Speaker 4: mind body coach? So yeah, we dove on bringing up
Speaker 4: trauma and releasing it so to.
Speaker 1: Speak, like kind of like inner child stuff.
Speaker 4: Or yeah, everything everything all around it just when yeah,
Speaker 4: when I was a child up to when I'm my
Speaker 4: age now just going through that. And what I was
Speaker 4: finding when I was bringing up this trauma that it
Speaker 4: would just be so fresh and I would have even
Speaker 4: one beer or two that it would trigger that same
Speaker 4: trauma and I just, yeah, I wouldn't be a really
Speaker 4: nice person to be around. So my coach actually challenged
Speaker 4: me to saying, why don't you just not drink for
Speaker 4: the next couple of weeks. Didn't say go sober or
Speaker 4: I didn't even have that word in my head. It
Speaker 4: was just not drinking. That was it then, because even
Speaker 4: the label of this meeting now is why am I
Speaker 4: going sober? Like I don't think I'm going sober. I'm
Speaker 4: just not drinking this period of time of my life.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I just stopped drinking and then was diving
Speaker 4: deep on my shit and then I was able to
Speaker 4: I started to I feel the effects of not having
Speaker 4: alcohol because I was thinking about it that I probably
Speaker 4: had maybe a few weeks max since I was sixteen
Speaker 4: to now to not drinking like even a beer. There
Speaker 4: was little sprints of having a beer every day, and
Speaker 4: then I would have a little break of not having
Speaker 4: them during the week and then doing on the weekend.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I was I was, yeah a bit like
Speaker 4: that was pretty cool. But what I was finding was
Speaker 4: things were changing. My energy levels were going up. My
Speaker 4: skin this was like a massive one. I started to
Speaker 4: become more ten like my really yeah.
Speaker 3: Like no joke.
Speaker 2: For reference, Cooper's quite bail. It has not got the
Speaker 2: olive skin like I.
Speaker 3: Do, and it's fully check like he started to.
Speaker 2: Get more color. Yeah, I think that you're trying to.
Speaker 4: Say, yeah, like yeah, just like in the shower and
Speaker 4: just in my face as well. Ash should be like,
Speaker 4: have you got a tan on? I'm like what no,
Speaker 4: And and yeah. It was just that was like a
Speaker 4: pretty cool thing for me. Yeah, that the energy my moods,
Speaker 4: which I didn't notice, but Ash, my wife, she definitely noticed.
Speaker 4: She said, I just love you when you're not drinking.
Speaker 4: And that was a bit of a wake up for
Speaker 4: me to say on the crap like I was affecting
Speaker 4: her so and then that was progressing like weeks on it,
Speaker 4: and I didn't take too much notice of like oh
Speaker 4: I've got to say stay sober or I didn't want
Speaker 4: to be after the first two weeks. First two weeks
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I have it here because I
Speaker 4: was so used to it. But yeah, two weeks went by.
Speaker 4: But then now it's just like not on my mind
Speaker 4: at all. It's just makes me question everything. Of like
Speaker 4: I've kind of noticed when other people drink, I always
Speaker 4: question them and I say like, why are you drinking?
Speaker 4: And then they would say, oh, just as a social thing.
Speaker 4: And I would say, oh, like why and just keep
Speaker 4: asking questions about it and they would just say the
Speaker 4: same sort of stuff.
Speaker 3: But yeah, my.
Speaker 4: Question always would be like why do you have to
Speaker 4: do that to be that person? Why do you need it?
Speaker 4: That would just be more me trying to understand what
Speaker 4: people are kind of going through, and then I would
Speaker 4: challenge them, and I don't know, I just kind of
Speaker 4: but yeah, it's it is crazy what society puts on
Speaker 4: alcohol as well, like it is normal in society. So yeah,
Speaker 4: just having those questions of how do you want to
Speaker 4: feel the next week and do you want to feel good?
Speaker 2: Or maybe even.
Speaker 1: Like being aware of how it makes you feel, because
Speaker 1: like up until like recently, it's like I just didn't
Speaker 1: even put my awareness to drinking, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: It's just like, oh, I go out, I've been drink.
Speaker 1: I'm a bit like down the next week.
Speaker 2: But that's just life. Almost wasn't even age.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I found that when you're kind of growing up
Speaker 4: and you're you're looking for different stuff, Like you get
Speaker 4: to that age.
Speaker 2: And looking from experiences, then.
Speaker 4: It's like the same thing every time when you go drinking,
Speaker 4: it is the same thing. And then you just kind
Speaker 4: of get to that point of like do I need
Speaker 4: this with this person? Am I going to get anything
Speaker 4: out of it? And am I looking for something more
Speaker 4: in life?
Speaker 1: That's actually can I just quickly bring something into this convo?
Speaker 2: Coop is a.
Speaker 1: Big thing I realized is drinking.
Speaker 2: For me too.
Speaker 1: It allows me to be more vulnerable in my relationships.
Speaker 1: So when I'm drunk, I am so open and honest
Speaker 1: about how I feel and who I am, as we
Speaker 1: all are. And it just made me think that there
Speaker 1: was just some relationships there where I'm like, oh, I
Speaker 1: can't be vulnerable unless I'm drinking with this person, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then questioning that and going.
Speaker 2: Why don't you feel safe unless you're drunk? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And why like, why would I want a relationship where
Speaker 1: I cannot be vulnerable or quote unquote you know, my
Speaker 1: whole self unless I'm drinking with them or even bringing
Speaker 1: in I feel like this is maybe more of a
Speaker 1: female thing, but I'm not sure you can tell me
Speaker 1: of I found with drinking. You almost kind of like,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to use this word bit just take
Speaker 1: it with discerment of you kind of trauma bond like
Speaker 1: you know, with your drinking, and then someone's telling you
Speaker 1: about something they're going through and then you're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can you resonate And then you bond over something
Speaker 1: bad happening or feeling a certain way, and you create
Speaker 1: a bond with this person when you're drunk.
Speaker 2: Yeah. That used to happen to me a lot.
Speaker 1: And I would create these relationships, But now that I
Speaker 1: unpacked them, I'm like they were really only ever created
Speaker 1: when I was drinking.
Speaker 2: And that was like a huge moment for me to be.
Speaker 1: Like, ooh, there's something here, and do I want to
Speaker 1: just have relationships where I have to get drunk to
Speaker 1: you know, talk to this person or feel this way
Speaker 1: or open up.
Speaker 2: And even just bonding over things, bad things that have
Speaker 2: happened to you, if that's the best foundation for some correct.
Speaker 1: Yes, correct, And I say I don't like I'm talking
Speaker 1: like small T trauma Like, yeah, I'm just using that
Speaker 1: as a word.
Speaker 4: Well, it's a good release, like it's when it brings
Speaker 4: up those traumas you you would only bring them up
Speaker 4: because you're trying to release them and get them off
Speaker 4: your shoulders or chest or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yes, but it's really interesting of like I would notice
Speaker 1: that this would only happen when I was drinking, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want like not only because
Speaker 1: it's like I can have deep conversations and connections with
Speaker 1: people around me, but then certain people it's like I
Speaker 1: would have to be drinking for that to happen.
Speaker 2: So interesting.
Speaker 4: Well with your question about is it a female or male? Yeah,
Speaker 4: I my opinion would be in society it is definitely
Speaker 4: a female thing because men don't like to share their
Speaker 4: feelings and be vulnerable because we have to Well, I'm
Speaker 4: actually on I do the same as you, but I
Speaker 4: was more brought up with my mum and that softer,
Speaker 4: so to.
Speaker 2: Speak, the fair energy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I've always I enjoyed it because I like to.
Speaker 5: But it might have been how funny Trooper, Like whenever
Speaker 5: we were like me and Cooper were drinking together and
Speaker 5: wet parties and stuff, it'd always be like me, my
Speaker 5: bestiet Isabelle, and like Cooper and.
Speaker 4: With us your friends always with girls, I just connected.
Speaker 4: But then I'd go to the guys and they're just
Speaker 4: talking about ship stupid at ship, and I'm just like,
Speaker 4: I need to get out of here.
Speaker 1: And that's girls. I feel like, obviously you haven't had
Speaker 1: this experience it here, but like you do, girls go
Speaker 1: like deep when they're drinking.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've been in the bathroom to clubs. Whoa,
Speaker 2: it's just so much information for a stranger. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: exactly that vibe.
Speaker 1: But what's even interesting is me even noticing that in friendships.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's even.
Speaker 1: Like when you look at your early twenties, like you
Speaker 1: usually have like a group of people that you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: who do you ever hang around them when I'm drinking? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's just like it's really cool to question these things,
Speaker 1: and it's really cool to have a think and be like,
Speaker 1: moving forward, I actually get to be the leader of
Speaker 1: my life.
Speaker 2: And moving forward?
Speaker 1: Is that the relationships I want or do I actually
Speaker 1: want to curate my environment where my connections don't just
Speaker 1: come from that when I'm drinking, et cetera.
Speaker 2: I think it's also interesting to keep in mind that
Speaker 2: alcohol lowers your inhibitions, so when like you're yeah, and
Speaker 2: like your critical thinking is not as effective when you're drunk.
Speaker 2: So clearly all those things that come up in your
Speaker 2: head of when you potentially maybe think forward to consequences
Speaker 2: of actions don't as from what I understand, yes, when
Speaker 2: you're drunk. Correct. So it's like that's why it's easy
Speaker 2: to be vulnerable because you're not thinking, oh, what are
Speaker 2: they going to think about me tomorrow and that sort
Speaker 2: of stuff. Yep. But is it about maybe working on
Speaker 2: lowering your inhibitions normally, either with those people or finding
Speaker 2: people that that feels good with exactly?
Speaker 1: Well, exactly that is I would love to And it's
Speaker 1: not like I don't, but it's like, that's what I
Speaker 1: had to realize, is I want to be able to
Speaker 1: be vulnerable and have that connection with those you know
Speaker 1: people or future people when I'm not drinking, and it's
Speaker 1: just such a huge thing for me of like, well,
Speaker 1: I think I need to start from scratch, and I
Speaker 1: think that does involve not drinking for a while so
Speaker 1: I can figure this out. Yeah, that's and that's I
Speaker 1: guess the big kind of theme that I want to
Speaker 1: bring in of I don't I guess what terrifies me
Speaker 1: is like I don't want to say, oh, I'm going sober,
Speaker 1: because I don't.
Speaker 2: Ever want to be boxed in boxed in.
Speaker 1: And it's even like this is a different concept of
Speaker 1: like I remember so many people back in the day
Speaker 1: of they went vegan and they had their whole Instagram
Speaker 1: following based on vegan and then something happened to their
Speaker 1: health where they had to introduce animal products for health
Speaker 1: reasons and they felt like they couldn't because of this
Speaker 1: box that they had.
Speaker 2: Put them in.
Speaker 1: And it's like I never want to get to the
Speaker 1: point where I don't feel like I can like change
Speaker 1: my identity. So I think the word sober terrifies me
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I don't want to have a label,
Speaker 1: and that's why I'm like, well, what about this concept
Speaker 1: of being sober curious where I stopped drinking for a
Speaker 1: while so I can figure these things out and then
Speaker 1: get to a place where if I do want to
Speaker 1: have a drink, I can, but also if I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: Why like what you just said about the vegan example,
Speaker 2: where their whole Instagram following or whatever was based on
Speaker 2: being vegan and that was like that part of their
Speaker 2: idea identity. Why do you think whether you drink or
Speaker 2: not is part of your identity.
Speaker 1: It just it feels part of my identity because I've
Speaker 1: been doing it since I was fourteen, and it feels like,
Speaker 1: like I said, there is quite a few relationships built.
Speaker 2: Just on that, not just on that, but like that's
Speaker 2: a big thing.
Speaker 1: So that's even something I was thinking about before of
Speaker 1: like I clearly went soberfore, you know, nine plus months
Speaker 1: when I was pregnant with Ivy, and.
Speaker 2: Just to confirm.
Speaker 1: And it's really interesting, Cooper, because I went to a
Speaker 1: Hens and I went to a couple of events and
Speaker 1: I remember being there and like everyone's getting very intoxicated
Speaker 1: and me going, oh my god, I do not miss this,
Speaker 1: Like I'm so excited to wake up fresh tomorrow and
Speaker 1: just be good. Obviously you're like heavily pregnant, so you're
Speaker 1: also like not that good, but I'm really tired. But
Speaker 1: like those events, I felt that way Cooper. I was like,
Speaker 1: same shit, same shit, different night. But when I was pregnant,
Speaker 1: the only time where I was like, oh, it would
Speaker 1: be nice here is when me and Tim went on
Speaker 1: our baby moon and we were at like the with
Speaker 1: Sundays and we were at Qualia and like there was
Speaker 1: the sunset and Tim was having, you know, a wine.
Speaker 2: And he's like, this is the best wine I've ever tasted.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I would love to have
Speaker 1: a wine here with my husband as we're in this
Speaker 1: like beautiful location, but it's like one and then we
Speaker 1: would just go to bed because that's, you know, what
Speaker 1: we do. So like that would be like the only
Speaker 1: moments where I'm like that is an interesting thing to
Speaker 1: think about.
Speaker 4: Well, I'd like to ask you a question that this
Speaker 4: is what I'm doing, But why do you have to
Speaker 4: have a drink with Tim? Why can't you not have
Speaker 4: a drink with Tim and go deep conversations because there's
Speaker 4: a reason deeper why you're drinking and it's not in that.
Speaker 1: Moment though, it wasn't because I wanted to go deeper
Speaker 1: with Tim. It's because the wine was very delicious and
Speaker 1: it was like a vibe. Like it was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'd love to have a wine and be here in
Speaker 1: the sunset and like get a photo with my glass wine.
Speaker 2: Why is the wine part of the vibe?
Speaker 1: It just feels the part of the vibe. For me,
Speaker 1: I can't and this is great questions and Cooper. Just
Speaker 1: for me in that moment, I was like, Oh, it'd
Speaker 1: be really nice to have a wine.
Speaker 3: I don't know what is there something deeper?
Speaker 4: I think consciously you have to have a wine with Tim.
Speaker 2: For it to be the vibe like you don't have
Speaker 2: that wine glad vibe. Yeah, there is.
Speaker 4: A reason why. It's not just because the wine tastes good.
Speaker 4: There's something deeper. Yeah, why your whole feelings and thoughts
Speaker 4: go towards it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is interesting. I can think about that. I
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Guys food for thoughts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they're the questions that you need ask yourself
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 1: So Cooper, for instance, if I was to come back
Speaker 1: and say, oh, well I just wanted to whine, I
Speaker 1: just it's something I'd like doing.
Speaker 2: What would you say?
Speaker 3: After I just asked you that question?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was like, well, it's just something I
Speaker 1: like doing. What would you say? Because I guarantee a
Speaker 1: lot of people are going to think that in their minds.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if that's kind of where you come from, like
Speaker 4: after me already knowing that information, it just means you're
Speaker 4: not ready to go deeper in that conversation and you can't.
Speaker 3: Push like I can't push you to do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it would just be a question and then that
Speaker 4: question might come up in your head later when you're ready.
Speaker 4: Everyone has to be ready for everything. You can't push
Speaker 4: yourself or push other people in to do stuff. It's
Speaker 4: just just give those questions, let it similer, and then
Speaker 4: see what happens. But yeah, you have to question yourself
Speaker 4: and you have to be ready to do anything.
Speaker 2: I think something interesting with that too, is how society
Speaker 2: has linked alcohol to celebration and.
Speaker 1: Glam and lux This is me and champagne.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that also might be where you
Speaker 2: might be coming from with I need it for the
Speaker 2: vibe is in. You want to feel luxury, you want
Speaker 2: to feel good, you want to feel like you're living
Speaker 2: the life and everything that's been shown to us in media,
Speaker 2: we consume in like people we see that are on platforms.
Speaker 2: Alcohol is there if you're celebrating something, you pop a
Speaker 2: bottle of champagne. If even when athletes win like whatever games,
Speaker 2: they're popping champagne and they're spraying it on each other
Speaker 2: to celebrate this amazing thing that's happened, and almost unpacking
Speaker 2: the effect that's had on your subconscious of oh, I'm
Speaker 2: not celebrating it or appreciating enough if I'm not having
Speaker 2: a glass of champagne, or it's not relaxing and glam
Speaker 2: if if I don't have a glass of wine in
Speaker 2: my hand, and almost but just like unpacking that in
Speaker 2: your head on why because I feel like for some
Speaker 2: people they might feel they need it for the vible
Speaker 2: just because they want it, but it's because it's associated
Speaker 2: with that I'm celebrating myself and to do that, I
Speaker 2: need alcohol or I need champagne.
Speaker 1: And unpacking that And that's such a great point to
Speaker 1: bring up because it is so true of even me saying, well,
Speaker 1: it's been conditioned to me since I was fourteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a condition. Yeah, it's something that I
Speaker 2: feel like it's like and probably before you were fourteen,
Speaker 2: of course.
Speaker 1: Because I saw my parents, well my dad drink, you know,
Speaker 1: my whole life.
Speaker 2: Even movies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, So that is so like, that's exactly right.
Speaker 1: And it's really interesting because you know, I'm the girl who's.
Speaker 2: Like, don't put yourself in a box. And then I'm like,
Speaker 2: but I need.
Speaker 1: Champagne to celebrate, But it is it's like, it's I'm
Speaker 1: so glad you said that, because even I'm thinking, now,
Speaker 1: if I do have something I want to celebrate, like
Speaker 1: I do, go and buy a very extensive bottle of
Speaker 1: champagne because it makes me feel a certain way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm like, oh, so interested. I'm so curious.
Speaker 1: But that's like, it's really cool to even question these
Speaker 1: things because how often do we just go through life
Speaker 1: not questioning anything?
Speaker 2: Yeah, question everything? Question everything.
Speaker 1: Do you have any last questions for me and Cooper before?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cooper, do you think you found it easier to
Speaker 2: go quote unquote sober because you just decided not to
Speaker 2: drink rather than put yourself in the box of being
Speaker 2: sober because the tear.
Speaker 1: Cooper also hasn't really announced this to anyone, and That's
Speaker 1: what we just spoke about before we came in here
Speaker 1: of Cooper's like, I haven't really told anyone this, And
Speaker 1: that's what a tear is saying. Because you don't have
Speaker 1: that label, do you find it easier to just not drink?
Speaker 4: Yeah, just when people say john't have a drink, so
Speaker 4: I'm not drinking, like okay, And how it really has
Speaker 4: said much?
Speaker 2: How did that go over silly season for you? Was
Speaker 2: that a hard adjustment or after the first two weeks
Speaker 2: it was super easy. Because I feel like a lot
Speaker 2: of people will say, oh, I could never not drink,
Speaker 2: or I don't drink. I only drink at events, and
Speaker 2: December is obviously always full of events and New Year's
Speaker 2: and that sort of stuff. And how did you go
Speaker 2: over that period without alcohol?
Speaker 4: It depends on who you hang out with. So I
Speaker 4: found certain people mean you hanging out more, Yeah, like
Speaker 4: those people that drink and need to have a drink.
Speaker 4: Like I was a few people that I was around
Speaker 4: and they were like, I just didn't understand, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just not drinking, like I don't want
Speaker 4: any Yeah, So they'd.
Speaker 3: Be like, why because I don't want it?
Speaker 4: I just so they wouldn't really affect me. Then from that,
Speaker 4: you just don't want to be around those sorts of people,
Speaker 4: So it channels you into hanging out with people that
Speaker 4: don't drink.
Speaker 3: You try and find those.
Speaker 4: People and the support of people, or you're just like
Speaker 4: I was just hanging out with my family and Ash
Speaker 4: doesn't drink, so that was a lot easier. But yeah,
Speaker 4: it's the influence around you is the biggest thing.
Speaker 2: I love that me. Yeah, Georgie, why do you think
Speaker 2: it's taken you so long to get to this point
Speaker 2: of like, because I know you've been saying for a while,
Speaker 2: I'm super curious. I'm super curious. I think even when
Speaker 2: I started working here, I actually did say that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so that's a year. What's been like the block for you?
Speaker 2: Let me sit with this and think about it.
Speaker 1: I think I have used alcohol as a crutch as
Speaker 1: like we were discussing previously, of you know, an escape
Speaker 1: or for me to feel connected to certain people and
Speaker 1: relationships and friendships. And also previously, like I was very
Speaker 1: much in the mindset which I'm not gonna lie, I
Speaker 1: still am of why can't I drink and then still
Speaker 1: have the things, you know, if you even think of
Speaker 1: my whole brand, it's like you can have it all vibes,
Speaker 1: and so it's like, well, why can't I drink but
Speaker 1: just have a couple and then still feel good the
Speaker 1: next week? But then what's what I'm starting to realize.
Speaker 2: Is I don't just have a couple. I have more
Speaker 2: than a couple.
Speaker 1: And also, if it is this whole, if you just
Speaker 1: have a couple of drinks, Cooper has then challenged me
Speaker 1: of like, but why even bother having the couple of drinks,
Speaker 1: Like what's that Because.
Speaker 2: You're not even getting drunk? Then at that point, are
Speaker 2: you correct?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and still poison Like it's still a couple of drinks.
Speaker 4: It is still going to poison your body.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and your system is still not going to be.
Speaker 4: Like I'm gonna feel good tomorrow because I've only had
Speaker 4: two drinks. Yeah, You're still going to get the effects
Speaker 4: from it, You're just.
Speaker 2: Not gonna feel as bad. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I think they're probably the two things that have
Speaker 1: kept me.
Speaker 2: And then the.
Speaker 1: Big realization that I had what was that maybe like
Speaker 1: a month ago, was at the moment I'm also working
Speaker 1: with my coach on some things that I said to Cooper,
Speaker 1: like very similar to him in regards to I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm and because I'm doing like a little shadow
Speaker 1: work at the moment, which like I've never done before,
Speaker 1: so mentally it feels hard to me and sorry complicated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So i feel like.
Speaker 1: I'm getting these winds and aha moments and I'm uncovering
Speaker 1: things and unpacking things, and I'm like going up the
Speaker 1: ladder and then what was happening is I was drinking,
Speaker 1: and then the next week I would almost fall back
Speaker 1: down the ladder, like I would literally forget our har moments.
Speaker 1: You'd forget them, yeah, and I'd have to go back
Speaker 1: through like my voxa and like replace stuff and be like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, like do you mean like it just it
Speaker 1: made me foggy? Yeah, And I think it's always done that.
Speaker 1: But because I have a goal and I have someone
Speaker 1: who's making me accountable right now, and then also Cooper
Speaker 1: who was going through it, and you know, him telling
Speaker 1: me his experience and how he's feeling, and me resonating
Speaker 1: and be like oh yeah, I actually, like I do
Speaker 1: resonate with that.
Speaker 4: And so it's not even You're just exposed to people
Speaker 4: that are doing it. So I'm not really saying anything
Speaker 4: to you, but you're seeing that what it's doing to me,
Speaker 4: and you're buying it, Like you're now realizing that that's.
Speaker 3: What I want. I want that in my life.
Speaker 4: So it's like to expose yourself to those people like
Speaker 4: that bring you up, which is what I'm gonna at, sorry,
Speaker 4: like be around those people that you want to look
Speaker 4: up to, and yeah, I.
Speaker 3: All the people that.
Speaker 1: I also think it has to be the right time
Speaker 1: for you, because for example, I've been around a tier
Speaker 1: who has never touched a drink for over a year,
Speaker 1: and so it's it's like it's come to this like
Speaker 1: central point of me realizing how much it's affecting my
Speaker 1: personal development and also how important the personal development is
Speaker 1: to me right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4: And then the journey you're on these little things where
Speaker 4: you're having a drink and now I'm realizing that's just
Speaker 4: your journey and that's the path that you need to
Speaker 4: be on to get to where you where you want
Speaker 4: to go. So you can't put yourself down for doing that,
Speaker 4: because we all need to find those lows then correctress up.
Speaker 1: And also I think it's like similar to Ukiper, It's
Speaker 1: like I don't want to put a label on it,
Speaker 1: but I want to have the autonomy to make a choice.
Speaker 1: And it's like I felt like I haven't.
Speaker 4: Like on that note, I'm not gonna go sober for
Speaker 4: the rest of my life right now. It just this
Speaker 4: is what feels right to me. And it's so great
Speaker 4: that I've experienced not having alcohol and then I've got
Speaker 4: that experience and now I'm so aware of it. So
Speaker 4: because like I'm gonna have a beer. I'm gonna drink
Speaker 4: later on, but just when it seems fit to me,
Speaker 4: because I'm actually going on a boys strip in a
Speaker 4: few months, and I was it's been going over my
Speaker 4: head and I talked to Georgia about it, and you
Speaker 4: have challenged me. But I appreciate your challenge of not drinking,
Speaker 4: but I am doing my own thing of challenging myself
Speaker 4: to having a beer. I'm gonna have a beer and
Speaker 4: see how I feel and if I feel shit like
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna drink, or if I feel good, I
Speaker 4: know that I'm going to feel a lot better without
Speaker 4: it the next week, or I don't know. Just like
Speaker 4: I'm flowing with what suits me and my journey. So
Speaker 4: I just yeah, like you said, there's no label. I'm
Speaker 4: just gonna that's it. I've experienced what I've experienced, and.
Speaker 3: I think forward.
Speaker 1: I think it's though, think about like the cool thing
Speaker 1: of bringing in the awareness about this. So, for example,
Speaker 1: when Cooper said that he might drink on this boys trip, obviously,
Speaker 1: my answer was but why, and we went, you know,
Speaker 1: he answered, and I went, but why yeah, and you're
Speaker 1: deep on it, yeah, and his answer, you know, it
Speaker 1: was very interesting and I think that's still something that
Speaker 1: you know, you will continue to unpack. But it's like,
Speaker 1: at least we're having that conversation exactly. So it's like,
Speaker 1: to me, it doesn't matter if Cooper drinks or doesn't drink,
Speaker 1: but it's like us having that conversation beforehand, him diving
Speaker 1: deeper and like.
Speaker 2: Understanding and like being able to then make a choice too. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I find the word sober interesting too though, because I
Speaker 2: feel like there's a really big stigma around it. But
Speaker 2: for me, it's like a state of being, Like I
Speaker 2: would never describe myself as a sober person. I would
Speaker 2: describe myself as someone that doesn't drink. For me, sober
Speaker 2: only comes in if you're at an event and or
Speaker 2: you're driving home or something and someone says, are you sober,
Speaker 2: as in, do you have alcohol in your system currently
Speaker 2: in the answer is no, it's not. I've never had
Speaker 2: alcohol in my system and I never will. It's currently
Speaker 2: right now, I don't have it. Yeah, that's interesting, and
Speaker 2: I just find it interesting that a lot of people
Speaker 2: get like there's a lot of pressure on a word
Speaker 2: when that's not even what the word means. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love that, like looking into what's the actual language
Speaker 1: around this? It's the axual definition. Mm.
Speaker 2: So how do you feel indoor deep to end into
Speaker 2: it the podcast feeling like I'm gonna have some shampagne
Speaker 2: tomorrow and.
Speaker 1: Release after this conversation, I need a champagne.
Speaker 2: No, I'm Jack and Jack and Jackie.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's really cool, like to even have this
Speaker 1: conversation with both of yous, just like really cool to
Speaker 1: hear your in a tear and obviously Cooper, for you
Speaker 1: to share on the podcast, and then for us to
Speaker 1: continue our conversations about this.
Speaker 2: It's really cool and it is so.
Speaker 1: Right of it is interesting to think of, for example,
Speaker 1: if we never had the drinking model to us and
Speaker 1: it didn't feel like a condition similar to a tear.
Speaker 1: How would we feel and how would we be with alcohol?
Speaker 1: And that's just even something. And it's obviously like I
Speaker 1: truly believe you pick your parents and you pick your
Speaker 1: journey here. So I'm not questioning that.
Speaker 3: You pick your parents.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe when you come in as a soul,
Speaker 1: you pick your parents to learn certain lessons.
Speaker 2: That's cool. Yeah, anyway, you're welcome, mom, You're welcome mom,
Speaker 2: and dad. I am a hashtag blessing. Yep.
Speaker 1: It just looks away And so I'm like, that's even
Speaker 1: a cool question to think about, because it is you're
Speaker 1: so ratit here like it is, it's conditioning.
Speaker 2: So it's like if you really get to the crux of.
Speaker 1: Like why you drink and what are the you know,
Speaker 1: reasons of then questioning those reasons any last thoughts or questions.
Speaker 3: Coop, we would have drunk. But if they didn't drink,
Speaker 3: we are we.
Speaker 2: Would have drunk.
Speaker 4: You're okay, Yeah, the stress levels and the high level lifestyle,
Speaker 4: we like, it's just.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but maybe something maybe if we maybe if we
Speaker 5: didn't have the same parents, it would.
Speaker 2: Be so stressed. Well, that's it, definitely, No, we joke,
Speaker 2: we joke we love our birds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we definitely do.
Speaker 4: But that's how they've lived their life and that's how
Speaker 4: we are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very cool. Well, I feel very excited because very much.
Speaker 1: You know, I fucking love a challenge, goober. Anyone tells
Speaker 1: me you can't do something, I'm like, let's go. So now,
Speaker 1: you guys have this kind of feels like a bit
Speaker 1: of a challenge. And in saying that, I do want
Speaker 1: to say I like, I personally.
Speaker 2: Want to be able to move.
Speaker 1: Through life and not like you're saying, have like have
Speaker 1: to just subscribe to a label and have to identify.
Speaker 1: And it's like I just get to be me and
Speaker 1: serve me and make sure I'm asking myself these questions.
Speaker 3: Yeah I do.
Speaker 4: I want to challenge you on here, Georgia, to do
Speaker 4: to challenge yourself.
Speaker 3: This is for yourself as.
Speaker 4: When there is an event or something where you think
Speaker 4: you are going to be challenged to drink, like, challenge
Speaker 4: yourself and ask yourself those questions of do I need
Speaker 4: to how do I need to perform the next week,
Speaker 4: how do I want to feel?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 4: Are these like drinking on that event? Do I need
Speaker 4: to be drunk at this event with these people? And
Speaker 4: what am I going to get out of it? Like,
Speaker 4: ask all these questions and then that'll guide yourself. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm challenging.
Speaker 2: Okay, you heard it here. I got it here.
Speaker 1: First, I'm challenging you.
Speaker 2: It sounds good, I'll do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the opposite. Yeah, scrap.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 1: If you have enjoyed this chat, make sure you come
Speaker 1: to our Facebook group. We're going to have a post there.
Speaker 1: I just would love to hear your thoughts and yeah,
Speaker 1: let's just like open up the conversation, let's challenge ourselves.
Speaker 2: Let's question.
Speaker 1: But also I just want to preface and just say
Speaker 1: when we're talking about this, like, if you are someone
Speaker 1: who drink, this is not us shaming you no or
Speaker 1: trying to make you feel guilty or anything like that.
Speaker 1: We're literally just we're talking about our experiences. We're talking
Speaker 1: about currently, what we're processing and what's happening in our
Speaker 1: brains and just bringing you on the journey.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I would actually like to know what everyone else thinks
Speaker 4: and be open about their journey and where they're wanting
Speaker 4: to go and.
Speaker 2: Where they're at. And if that's living your best life party,
Speaker 2: then do it? Love that for yourself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you need to do that, then that's fun.
Speaker 4: Like if everyone's on their own journey about this combo,
Speaker 4: be open.
Speaker 3: It's nice.
Speaker 2: All right, I'll go have some water.
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