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Speaker 1: Today I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson, and this is the

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Speaker 1: Rise and Conquer podcast. This is the podcast where which

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Speaker 1: of my life running two businesses and being among Think

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Speaker 1: of us as the perfect combo of brunch with your

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Speaker 1: in your journey, we're here to help you be curious,

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Speaker 1: pull yourself out, and embrace radical self awareness.

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Speaker 2: If you're ready to get into.

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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the RNC Potty. Today,

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Speaker 1: we have an episode that you.

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Speaker 1: We kind of easter egged this a while back and

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Speaker 2: Love that weekly Rex a tea. Mine's bit left field.

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Speaker 1: So true, because it's like you think it's limiting yourself

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Speaker 1: Do they know or do they when you don't reply

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Speaker 1: Because you're probably not thinking that, but also you don't

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Speaker 2: It's not because I don't love you.

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Speaker 1: So but see how interesting, Like that's such a small conversation. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I love that everybody have this uncomfortable biometree conversation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd love to do a whole episode on it

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Speaker 6: All right, guys, let's get into the episode.

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Speaker 1: Before we get straight into it, let's just go around

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Speaker 1: also say if you know where you're currently at with alcohol.

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Speaker 1: So my name is Georgie. I am sober curious, I'm

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Speaker 2: Been drinking since I was fourteen, So there's that. Shut

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Speaker 4: Hello, my name is Cooper. My relationship with alcohol has

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Speaker 3: Like a normal person, I.

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Speaker 2: Think it's eighteen to be normal. But sure, what eighteen

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Speaker 2: it's illegal age.

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Speaker 4: You know, normal, I say, legally weird as a teenager?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fourteen issues?

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Speaker 1: Are you judging me or shaming me?

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Speaker 3: As a brother?

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Speaker 2: Yes, we're past that point, thank you.

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Speaker 4: Recently I stopped drinking. It was the start of December

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Speaker 2: Wo you did Silly Season without alcohol?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? That pretty good? Now?

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Speaker 2: Okay, cool A tear. I'm a tear and I have

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Speaker 1: So, when you went to your uncle's wedding last year,

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Speaker 1: was there any alcohol at the wedding?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: Interesting, like, no one in my family drinks.

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Speaker 3: Did people dance?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I feel like this is showing the relationship we have

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Speaker 1: Interesting, and so you've just never been interested. No, do

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Speaker 2: I just know I don't think so. I just don't

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Speaker 2: think it's for me. I think I have so much

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Speaker 2: you guys pre workout shots whenever I go out. That's

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Speaker 2: what I date. Some good shit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, amazing. So now you know who's in

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Speaker 2: Curious, and I just I think it's very interesting.

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Speaker 1: Because me and Cooper come from a background where, like

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm like I started drinking when I was fourteen,

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Speaker 1: you know, my dad used to have what four beers

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Speaker 2: A night and like that was just normal to us.

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Speaker 1: And also I have three older brothers, so two other

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Speaker 1: So for me, even the thought of going sober, I'm

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Speaker 2: And feel a certain way interesting. Dear.

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Speaker 1: Sure, and I think that's actually, like, I think that's

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Speaker 1: But I guess as I'm becoming more conscious and working

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Speaker 1: I guess but I have this, you know, I feel

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Speaker 2: And I just.

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Speaker 2: It's funny how you describe the thought of going sober,

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Speaker 2: Like I don't know anything else than not. Isn't that

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Speaker 4: Wouldn't you want to experience the things in life there?

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Speaker 2: But I feel experiences I can do that without alcohol.

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Speaker 1: And that's like Cooper, that's like saying you can't win.

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Speaker 4: It with alcohol, because that's not an experience without it.

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Speaker 1: But She's saying she's not interested in the experiences that involve.

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Speaker 2: Alcohol, Like so many people go through their whole lives

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Speaker 3: They don't know?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, an experience, Like when you do an experience, you

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Speaker 2: I just feel like the experiences, or at least what

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Speaker 1: But also I'm going to challenge you on that, Cooper though,

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Speaker 1: of Yet. But it's kind of like, yeah, yeah, look

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Speaker 2: It's just definitely not for me. And all the benefits

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Speaker 1: just talk about why my relationship with alcohol is complicated

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Speaker 1: and what.

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Speaker 2: I'm currently exploring.

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Speaker 1: And Guys, I'm being very raw and vulnerable with you,

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Speaker 1: So I want you to just be like very generous

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Speaker 1: much feels like the fun Georgie.

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Speaker 2: It's the fund.

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Speaker 1: Georgie who has no worries, who doesn't own two businesses,

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Speaker 2: Like I need to drink.

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Speaker 1: And it's just very interesting to me though, because it

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Speaker 1: Or like you know, I'm very in my masculine energy

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00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 1: all the time, so like getting more into my fem

444
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 1: energy where I can be more present. But it's just interesting.

445
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 1: It's like that doesn't really appeal to me. So I'm

446
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: trying to figure out, you know, why this different side

447
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 1: comes out to me when I'm unconscious, and it's obviously

448
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 1: because it's a part of me, but I'm just like,

449
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: I guess I'm playing with that. And then also on

450
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: top of that is realizing how I'm feeling after the fact.

451
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: So when I drink the week after, I'm a bit spatsy,

452
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: like my whole mood change, doesn't it coober.

453
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 4: It does, at least until Thursday.

454
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like that's just not how I want my

455
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 1: life to feel. Is you know, I drink, I'm free,

456
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm in the moment, but then the whole next week,

457
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 1: I feel like I can't show up as a business

458
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: owner and a mother and that's just like not the vibe.

459
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to really be like, well, it's just

460
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: not serving me. So it's also really interesting that I

461
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: can't just go sober because that thought, I'm like, I

462
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: don't know, like that thought, I'm like, bit, why can't

463
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: I have both?

464
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 2: But then I like I can understand why. That sounds

465
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 2: a bit silly, But yeah.

466
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:03,479
Speaker 4: For me back before, it was an escape, and I

467
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 4: know that's what it would be for you with our

468
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 4: stressful life. But it's to dive deep on that why

469
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 4: are you escaping your life? So these are the questions

470
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 4: you need to ask yourself, Like that's what it is.

471
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 4: Like you go, you drink, and your whole life dissolves.

472
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 4: All the stress is to dissolve and you escape and

473
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 4: it's nice and then you get that relief. So it's

474
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,479
Speaker 4: that's the question, why are you drinking alcohol? It's like

475
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 4: what are you escaping from? And that's they're the issues

476
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 4: you need to look at.

477
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what I've realized is and that's why

478
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: it's like, how do I integrate that into my life

479
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 1: so I don't feel like I have to escape? And

480
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: I just I do want to preface this and be like, guys,

481
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,360
Speaker 1: it's not like I'm like wanting to drink all the time,

482
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: like I at the moment, I probably drink what once

483
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: a month or.

484
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 4: Oh what, okay, once a month, don't I drink maybe

485
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 4: once a fortnight.

486
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 2: When was the last time I drank?

487
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 3: Oh, but you're conscious now of it.

488
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but for that, I feel like I've only drunk

489
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: once a month.

490
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, it's not much.

491
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: I was about to say, it's not much. It's not

492
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 1: like I'm drinking every single night. That's what I'm trying

493
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: to get at.

494
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 4: It would be no, it would just be if you

495
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 4: have stuff on the weekends, and I feel like you

496
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 4: would have like a sprint of weekends one after the other,

497
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 4: and then you would just have a good break And

498
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 4: I feel like that's kind of how it goes.

499
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it would just be various weekends events. Yeah,

500
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,479
Speaker 1: but I'm just trying to preface this. It's not like

501
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,719
Speaker 1: I'm an alcoholic. That's what I'm trying to get. But

502
00:25:55,080 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: it is very interesting because it is something where one

503
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 1: hundred percent cooper It is like an escape of when

504
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 1: I drink. And I think also why my relationship feels

505
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,959
Speaker 1: a bit complicated is so when I start drinking, you know,

506
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm gonna have one or two drinks

507
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: then stop. And then I start drinking and I just

508
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: have so much.

509
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 2: Fun that I can't stop.

510
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 1: And then I'm always the person who's like, you know,

511
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: buying rounds for a run, we're doing shots shots.

512
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you are that gram I am that person. You've

513
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 2: seen it. Yeah, you always buy me a water.

514
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: So I'm like, guys, I got tequila shots, but I

515
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 1: got a tear of water.

516
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: I got your own.

517
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 1: No, I was buying you juices at one point. But yeah,

518
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,719
Speaker 1: I get a bit excitable, and I am that person.

519
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: And that's even something I'm diving deep on of. I

520
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: think that's the reason why I am so curious because

521
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: I am finding it a little bit difficult that once

522
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 1: I start drinking, I do end up binge drinking, which

523
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: again I'm just a point in my life around like

524
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: this isn't really the vibe.

525
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you think you also maybe feel a bit

526
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 2: of shame of integrating fun Georgie into your everyday life

527
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: because of the responsibilities you have though, that's why it's

528
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 2: so hard.

529
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't feel natural to me to integrate fun Georgie.

530
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think.

531
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it feels, to be very honest, it feels

532
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: like I have so much pressure and responsibilities in my

533
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: life that it feels like I don't have the space

534
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: for that, which is probably which is the issue. Yeah,

535
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: but that's something I yeah, am working on and trying

536
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: to figure out.

537
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: Maybe you need to surrender. Yeah, does alcohol help you surrender?

538
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: Do you reckon? Or no? Just brings out fun Georgie. No,

539
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 2: it's just fun Georgie.

540
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: But then it's like it's not that fun because then

541
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 1: the whole week after I feel like crap, and it

542
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: really affects my moods, really affects my moods, and I

543
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 1: often feel a week after drinking, I often feel quite

544
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: like depresso, very sad.

545
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was so cooped.

546
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: You want to maybe chat about your process of being

547
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: sober at the moment and what that looked like and

548
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: why you decided to become sober.

549
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure.

550
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 4: So I started to see a coach and we both

551
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 4: dove on trauma and what sort of coach who's a

552
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 4: mind body coach? So yeah, we dove on bringing up

553
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 4: trauma and releasing it so to.

554
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: Speak, like kind of like inner child stuff.

555
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 4: Or yeah, everything everything all around it just when yeah,

556
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 4: when I was a child up to when I'm my

557
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 4: age now just going through that. And what I was

558
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 4: finding when I was bringing up this trauma that it

559
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 4: would just be so fresh and I would have even

560
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 4: one beer or two that it would trigger that same

561
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 4: trauma and I just, yeah, I wouldn't be a really

562
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 4: nice person to be around. So my coach actually challenged

563
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 4: me to saying, why don't you just not drink for

564
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 4: the next couple of weeks. Didn't say go sober or

565
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 4: I didn't even have that word in my head. It

566
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 4: was just not drinking. That was it then, because even

567
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,479
Speaker 4: the label of this meeting now is why am I

568
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 4: going sober? Like I don't think I'm going sober. I'm

569
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 4: just not drinking this period of time of my life.

570
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 4: So yeah, I just stopped drinking and then was diving

571
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 4: deep on my shit and then I was able to

572
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 4: I started to I feel the effects of not having

573
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 4: alcohol because I was thinking about it that I probably

574
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 4: had maybe a few weeks max since I was sixteen

575
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 4: to now to not drinking like even a beer. There

576
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 4: was little sprints of having a beer every day, and

577
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 4: then I would have a little break of not having

578
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 4: them during the week and then doing on the weekend.

579
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 4: But yeah, I was I was, yeah a bit like

580
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 4: that was pretty cool. But what I was finding was

581
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 4: things were changing. My energy levels were going up. My

582
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 4: skin this was like a massive one. I started to

583
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 4: become more ten like my really yeah.

584
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 3: Like no joke.

585
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 2: For reference, Cooper's quite bail. It has not got the

586
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: olive skin like I.

587
00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 3: Do, and it's fully check like he started to.

588
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: Get more color. Yeah, I think that you're trying to.

589
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 4: Say, yeah, like yeah, just like in the shower and

590
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 4: just in my face as well. Ash should be like,

591
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 4: have you got a tan on? I'm like what no,

592
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 4: And and yeah. It was just that was like a

593
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 4: pretty cool thing for me. Yeah, that the energy my moods,

594
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 4: which I didn't notice, but Ash, my wife, she definitely noticed.

595
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 4: She said, I just love you when you're not drinking.

596
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 4: And that was a bit of a wake up for

597
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 4: me to say on the crap like I was affecting

598
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 4: her so and then that was progressing like weeks on it,

599
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 4: and I didn't take too much notice of like oh

600
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 4: I've got to say stay sober or I didn't want

601
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 4: to be after the first two weeks. First two weeks

602
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I have it here because I

603
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 4: was so used to it. But yeah, two weeks went by.

604
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 4: But then now it's just like not on my mind

605
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 4: at all. It's just makes me question everything. Of like

606
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 4: I've kind of noticed when other people drink, I always

607
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 4: question them and I say like, why are you drinking?

608
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 4: And then they would say, oh, just as a social thing.

609
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 4: And I would say, oh, like why and just keep

610
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 4: asking questions about it and they would just say the

611
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 4: same sort of stuff.

612
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, my.

613
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 4: Question always would be like why do you have to

614
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 4: do that to be that person? Why do you need it?

615
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 4: That would just be more me trying to understand what

616
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 4: people are kind of going through, and then I would

617
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 4: challenge them, and I don't know, I just kind of

618
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 4: but yeah, it's it is crazy what society puts on

619
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 4: alcohol as well, like it is normal in society. So yeah,

620
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 4: just having those questions of how do you want to

621
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 4: feel the next week and do you want to feel good?

622
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 2: Or maybe even.

623
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: Like being aware of how it makes you feel, because

624
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: like up until like recently, it's like I just didn't

625
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: even put my awareness to drinking, if that makes sense.

626
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: It's just like, oh, I go out, I've been drink.

627
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: I'm a bit like down the next week.

628
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: But that's just life. Almost wasn't even age.

629
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I found that when you're kind of growing up

630
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 4: and you're you're looking for different stuff, Like you get

631
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 4: to that age.

632
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 2: And looking from experiences, then.

633
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,959
Speaker 4: It's like the same thing every time when you go drinking,

634
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 4: it is the same thing. And then you just kind

635
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 4: of get to that point of like do I need

636
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,479
Speaker 4: this with this person? Am I going to get anything

637
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 4: out of it? And am I looking for something more

638
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 4: in life?

639
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: That's actually can I just quickly bring something into this convo?

640
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: Coop is a.

641
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: Big thing I realized is drinking.

642
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: For me too.

643
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: It allows me to be more vulnerable in my relationships.

644
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: So when I'm drunk, I am so open and honest

645
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: about how I feel and who I am, as we

646
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: all are. And it just made me think that there

647
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: was just some relationships there where I'm like, oh, I

648
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 1: can't be vulnerable unless I'm drinking with this person, yeah,

649
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: and then questioning that and going.

650
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 2: Why don't you feel safe unless you're drunk? Yeah?

651
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: And why like, why would I want a relationship where

652
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: I cannot be vulnerable or quote unquote you know, my

653
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: whole self unless I'm drinking with them or even bringing

654
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: in I feel like this is maybe more of a

655
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: female thing, but I'm not sure you can tell me

656
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: of I found with drinking. You almost kind of like,

657
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: and I'm going to use this word bit just take

658
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: it with discerment of you kind of trauma bond like

659
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: you know, with your drinking, and then someone's telling you

660
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: about something they're going through and then you're like, yeah,

661
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: I can you resonate And then you bond over something

662
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 1: bad happening or feeling a certain way, and you create

663
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: a bond with this person when you're drunk.

664
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. That used to happen to me a lot.

665
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: And I would create these relationships, But now that I

666
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: unpacked them, I'm like they were really only ever created

667
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 1: when I was drinking.

668
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 2: And that was like a huge moment for me to be.

669
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: Like, ooh, there's something here, and do I want to

670
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: just have relationships where I have to get drunk to

671
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: you know, talk to this person or feel this way

672
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: or open up.

673
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 2: And even just bonding over things, bad things that have

674
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: happened to you, if that's the best foundation for some correct.

675
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: Yes, correct, And I say I don't like I'm talking

676
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: like small T trauma Like, yeah, I'm just using that

677
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: as a word.

678
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 4: Well, it's a good release, like it's when it brings

679
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 4: up those traumas you you would only bring them up

680
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 4: because you're trying to release them and get them off

681
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 4: your shoulders or chest or whatever.

682
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: Yes, but it's really interesting of like I would notice

683
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: that this would only happen when I was drinking, and

684
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want like not only because

685
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: it's like I can have deep conversations and connections with

686
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: people around me, but then certain people it's like I

687
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: would have to be drinking for that to happen.

688
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: So interesting.

689
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 4: Well with your question about is it a female or male? Yeah,

690
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 4: I my opinion would be in society it is definitely

691
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 4: a female thing because men don't like to share their

692
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 4: feelings and be vulnerable because we have to Well, I'm

693
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 4: actually on I do the same as you, but I

694
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 4: was more brought up with my mum and that softer,

695
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 4: so to.

696
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: Speak, the fair energy.

697
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I've always I enjoyed it because I like to.

698
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 5: But it might have been how funny Trooper, Like whenever

699
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 5: we were like me and Cooper were drinking together and

700
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 5: wet parties and stuff, it'd always be like me, my

701
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 5: bestiet Isabelle, and like Cooper and.

702
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 4: With us your friends always with girls, I just connected.

703
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 4: But then I'd go to the guys and they're just

704
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 4: talking about ship stupid at ship, and I'm just like,

705
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 4: I need to get out of here.

706
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: And that's girls. I feel like, obviously you haven't had

707
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: this experience it here, but like you do, girls go

708
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: like deep when they're drinking.

709
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've been in the bathroom to clubs. Whoa,

710
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: it's just so much information for a stranger. Yes, yeah,

711
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 2: exactly that vibe.

712
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: But what's even interesting is me even noticing that in friendships.

713
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's even.

714
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: Like when you look at your early twenties, like you

715
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 1: usually have like a group of people that you're like, oh,

716
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: who do you ever hang around them when I'm drinking? Yeah,

717
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 1: And it's just like it's really cool to question these things,

718
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: and it's really cool to have a think and be like,

719
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: moving forward, I actually get to be the leader of

720
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:20,959
Speaker 1: my life.

721
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: And moving forward?

722
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 1: Is that the relationships I want or do I actually

723
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: want to curate my environment where my connections don't just

724
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: come from that when I'm drinking, et cetera.

725
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: I think it's also interesting to keep in mind that

726
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 2: alcohol lowers your inhibitions, so when like you're yeah, and

727
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 2: like your critical thinking is not as effective when you're drunk.

728
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 2: So clearly all those things that come up in your

729
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: head of when you potentially maybe think forward to consequences

730
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: of actions don't as from what I understand, yes, when

731
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: you're drunk. Correct. So it's like that's why it's easy

732
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 2: to be vulnerable because you're not thinking, oh, what are

733
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: they going to think about me tomorrow and that sort

734
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: of stuff. Yep. But is it about maybe working on

735
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: lowering your inhibitions normally, either with those people or finding

736
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: people that that feels good with exactly?

737
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: Well, exactly that is I would love to And it's

738
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: not like I don't, but it's like, that's what I

739
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: had to realize, is I want to be able to

740
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: be vulnerable and have that connection with those you know

741
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: people or future people when I'm not drinking, and it's

742
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: just such a huge thing for me of like, well,

743
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: I think I need to start from scratch, and I

744
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: think that does involve not drinking for a while so

745
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: I can figure this out. Yeah, that's and that's I

746
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: guess the big kind of theme that I want to

747
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: bring in of I don't I guess what terrifies me

748
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 1: is like I don't want to say, oh, I'm going sober,

749
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: because I don't.

750
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: Ever want to be boxed in boxed in.

751
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: And it's even like this is a different concept of

752
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: like I remember so many people back in the day

753
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: of they went vegan and they had their whole Instagram

754
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: following based on vegan and then something happened to their

755
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 1: health where they had to introduce animal products for health

756
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: reasons and they felt like they couldn't because of this

757
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: box that they had.

758
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: Put them in.

759
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: And it's like I never want to get to the

760
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 1: point where I don't feel like I can like change

761
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: my identity. So I think the word sober terrifies me

762
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I don't want to have a label,

763
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: and that's why I'm like, well, what about this concept

764
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: of being sober curious where I stopped drinking for a

765
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: while so I can figure these things out and then

766
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: get to a place where if I do want to

767
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: have a drink, I can, but also if I don't,

768
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: I don't.

769
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: Why like what you just said about the vegan example,

770
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 2: where their whole Instagram following or whatever was based on

771
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 2: being vegan and that was like that part of their

772
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: idea identity. Why do you think whether you drink or

773
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: not is part of your identity.

774
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: It just it feels part of my identity because I've

775
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: been doing it since I was fourteen, and it feels like,

776
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: like I said, there is quite a few relationships built.

777
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 2: Just on that, not just on that, but like that's

778
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: a big thing.

779
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: So that's even something I was thinking about before of

780
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: like I clearly went soberfore, you know, nine plus months

781
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: when I was pregnant with Ivy, and.

782
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 2: Just to confirm.

783
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: And it's really interesting, Cooper, because I went to a

784
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: Hens and I went to a couple of events and

785
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: I remember being there and like everyone's getting very intoxicated

786
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: and me going, oh my god, I do not miss this,

787
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: Like I'm so excited to wake up fresh tomorrow and

788
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: just be good. Obviously you're like heavily pregnant, so you're

789
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: also like not that good, but I'm really tired. But

790
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: like those events, I felt that way Cooper. I was like,

791
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 1: same shit, same shit, different night. But when I was pregnant,

792
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: the only time where I was like, oh, it would

793
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: be nice here is when me and Tim went on

794
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: our baby moon and we were at like the with

795
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: Sundays and we were at Qualia and like there was

796
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: the sunset and Tim was having, you know, a wine.

797
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 2: And he's like, this is the best wine I've ever tasted.

798
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I would love to have

799
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: a wine here with my husband as we're in this

800
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: like beautiful location, but it's like one and then we

801
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: would just go to bed because that's, you know, what

802
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: we do. So like that would be like the only

803
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: moments where I'm like that is an interesting thing to

804
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: think about.

805
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 4: Well, I'd like to ask you a question that this

806
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 4: is what I'm doing, But why do you have to

807
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 4: have a drink with Tim? Why can't you not have

808
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 4: a drink with Tim and go deep conversations because there's

809
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 4: a reason deeper why you're drinking and it's not in that.

810
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 1: Moment though, it wasn't because I wanted to go deeper

811
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: with Tim. It's because the wine was very delicious and

812
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: it was like a vibe. Like it was like, Oh,

813
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: I'd love to have a wine and be here in

814
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 1: the sunset and like get a photo with my glass wine.

815
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 2: Why is the wine part of the vibe?

816
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: It just feels the part of the vibe. For me,

817
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: I can't and this is great questions and Cooper. Just

818
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 1: for me in that moment, I was like, Oh, it'd

819
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: be really nice to have a wine.

820
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 3: I don't know what is there something deeper?

821
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 4: I think consciously you have to have a wine with Tim.

822
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: For it to be the vibe like you don't have

823
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: that wine glad vibe. Yeah, there is.

824
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 4: A reason why. It's not just because the wine tastes good.

825
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 4: There's something deeper. Yeah, why your whole feelings and thoughts

826
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 4: go towards it.

827
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is interesting. I can think about that. I

828
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Guys food for thoughts.

829
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they're the questions that you need ask yourself

830
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 4: as well.

831
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: So Cooper, for instance, if I was to come back

832
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: and say, oh, well I just wanted to whine, I

833
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: just it's something I'd like doing.

834
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 2: What would you say?

835
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 3: After I just asked you that question?

836
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was like, well, it's just something I

837
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: like doing. What would you say? Because I guarantee a

838
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: lot of people are going to think that in their minds.

839
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, if that's kind of where you come from, like

840
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 4: after me already knowing that information, it just means you're

841
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 4: not ready to go deeper in that conversation and you can't.

842
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 3: Push like I can't push you to do it.

843
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, it would just be a question and then that

844
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 4: question might come up in your head later when you're ready.

845
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 4: Everyone has to be ready for everything. You can't push

846
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 4: yourself or push other people in to do stuff. It's

847
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 4: just just give those questions, let it similer, and then

848
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 4: see what happens. But yeah, you have to question yourself

849
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 4: and you have to be ready to do anything.

850
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 2: I think something interesting with that too, is how society

851
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: has linked alcohol to celebration and.

852
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: Glam and lux This is me and champagne.

853
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that also might be where you

854
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: might be coming from with I need it for the

855
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 2: vibe is in. You want to feel luxury, you want

856
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: to feel good, you want to feel like you're living

857
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: the life and everything that's been shown to us in media,

858
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 2: we consume in like people we see that are on platforms.

859
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: Alcohol is there if you're celebrating something, you pop a

860
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 2: bottle of champagne. If even when athletes win like whatever games,

861
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 2: they're popping champagne and they're spraying it on each other

862
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 2: to celebrate this amazing thing that's happened, and almost unpacking

863
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: the effect that's had on your subconscious of oh, I'm

864
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 2: not celebrating it or appreciating enough if I'm not having

865
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 2: a glass of champagne, or it's not relaxing and glam

866
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 2: if if I don't have a glass of wine in

867
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 2: my hand, and almost but just like unpacking that in

868
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: your head on why because I feel like for some

869
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 2: people they might feel they need it for the vible

870
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 2: just because they want it, but it's because it's associated

871
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 2: with that I'm celebrating myself and to do that, I

872
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 2: need alcohol or I need champagne.

873
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: And unpacking that And that's such a great point to

874
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: bring up because it is so true of even me saying, well,

875
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: it's been conditioned to me since I was fourteen.

876
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a condition. Yeah, it's something that I

877
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 2: feel like it's like and probably before you were fourteen,

878
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: of course.

879
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: Because I saw my parents, well my dad drink, you know,

880
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: my whole life.

881
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 2: Even movies.

882
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, So that is so like, that's exactly right.

883
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: And it's really interesting because you know, I'm the girl who's.

884
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: Like, don't put yourself in a box. And then I'm like,

885
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 2: but I need.

886
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: Champagne to celebrate, But it is it's like, it's I'm

887
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: so glad you said that, because even I'm thinking, now,

888
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: if I do have something I want to celebrate, like

889
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: I do, go and buy a very extensive bottle of

890
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 1: champagne because it makes me feel a certain way.

891
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm like, oh, so interested. I'm so curious.

892
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: But that's like, it's really cool to even question these

893
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: things because how often do we just go through life

894
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: not questioning anything?

895
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, question everything? Question everything.

896
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: Do you have any last questions for me and Cooper before?

897
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cooper, do you think you found it easier to

898
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 2: go quote unquote sober because you just decided not to

899
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 2: drink rather than put yourself in the box of being

900
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: sober because the tear.

901
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: Cooper also hasn't really announced this to anyone, and That's

902
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: what we just spoke about before we came in here

903
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: of Cooper's like, I haven't really told anyone this, And

904
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: that's what a tear is saying. Because you don't have

905
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: that label, do you find it easier to just not drink?

906
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, just when people say john't have a drink, so

907
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 4: I'm not drinking, like okay, And how it really has

908
00:47:59,280 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 4: said much?

909
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 2: How did that go over silly season for you? Was

910
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 2: that a hard adjustment or after the first two weeks

911
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 2: it was super easy. Because I feel like a lot

912
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 2: of people will say, oh, I could never not drink,

913
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: or I don't drink. I only drink at events, and

914
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 2: December is obviously always full of events and New Year's

915
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: and that sort of stuff. And how did you go

916
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: over that period without alcohol?

917
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 4: It depends on who you hang out with. So I

918
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 4: found certain people mean you hanging out more, Yeah, like

919
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 4: those people that drink and need to have a drink.

920
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 4: Like I was a few people that I was around

921
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 4: and they were like, I just didn't understand, and I'm like,

922
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just not drinking, like I don't want

923
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 4: any Yeah, So they'd.

924
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 3: Be like, why because I don't want it?

925
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 4: I just so they wouldn't really affect me. Then from that,

926
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 4: you just don't want to be around those sorts of people,

927
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 4: So it channels you into hanging out with people that

928
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 4: don't drink.

929
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 3: You try and find those.

930
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 4: People and the support of people, or you're just like

931
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 4: I was just hanging out with my family and Ash

932
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,439
Speaker 4: doesn't drink, so that was a lot easier. But yeah,

933
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 4: it's the influence around you is the biggest thing.

934
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 2: I love that me. Yeah, Georgie, why do you think

935
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: it's taken you so long to get to this point

936
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: of like, because I know you've been saying for a while,

937
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 2: I'm super curious. I'm super curious. I think even when

938
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 2: I started working here, I actually did say that. Yeah,

939
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 2: so that's a year. What's been like the block for you?

940
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 2: Let me sit with this and think about it.

941
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 1: I think I have used alcohol as a crutch as

942
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:01,240
Speaker 1: like we were discussing previously, of you know, an escape

943
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: or for me to feel connected to certain people and

944
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: relationships and friendships. And also previously, like I was very

945
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: much in the mindset which I'm not gonna lie, I

946
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 1: still am of why can't I drink and then still

947
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: have the things, you know, if you even think of

948
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: my whole brand, it's like you can have it all vibes,

949
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: and so it's like, well, why can't I drink but

950
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: just have a couple and then still feel good the

951
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: next week? But then what's what I'm starting to realize.

952
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 2: Is I don't just have a couple. I have more

953
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: than a couple.

954
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: And also, if it is this whole, if you just

955
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: have a couple of drinks, Cooper has then challenged me

956
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 1: of like, but why even bother having the couple of drinks,

957
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 1: Like what's that Because.

958
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 2: You're not even getting drunk? Then at that point, are

959
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 2: you correct?

960
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and still poison Like it's still a couple of drinks.

961
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 4: It is still going to poison your body.

962
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and your system is still not going to be.

963
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 4: Like I'm gonna feel good tomorrow because I've only had

964
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 4: two drinks. Yeah, You're still going to get the effects

965
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 4: from it, You're just.

966
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 2: Not gonna feel as bad. Yeah.

967
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: So I think they're probably the two things that have

968
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: kept me.

969
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 2: And then the.

970
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: Big realization that I had what was that maybe like

971
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: a month ago, was at the moment I'm also working

972
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: with my coach on some things that I said to Cooper,

973
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: like very similar to him in regards to I feel

974
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 1: like I'm and because I'm doing like a little shadow

975
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: work at the moment, which like I've never done before,

976
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: so mentally it feels hard to me and sorry complicated.

977
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, So i feel like.

978
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm getting these winds and aha moments and I'm uncovering

979
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: things and unpacking things, and I'm like going up the

980
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: ladder and then what was happening is I was drinking,

981
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: and then the next week I would almost fall back

982
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: down the ladder, like I would literally forget our har moments.

983
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: You'd forget them, yeah, and I'd have to go back

984
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: through like my voxa and like replace stuff and be like,

985
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: oh yeah, like do you mean like it just it

986
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: made me foggy? Yeah, And I think it's always done that.

987
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: But because I have a goal and I have someone

988
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 1: who's making me accountable right now, and then also Cooper

989
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: who was going through it, and you know, him telling

990
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: me his experience and how he's feeling, and me resonating

991
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: and be like oh yeah, I actually, like I do

992
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: resonate with that.

993
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 4: And so it's not even You're just exposed to people

994
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 4: that are doing it. So I'm not really saying anything

995
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 4: to you, but you're seeing that what it's doing to me,

996
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 4: and you're buying it, Like you're now realizing that that's.

997
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 3: What I want. I want that in my life.

998
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 4: So it's like to expose yourself to those people like

999
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 4: that bring you up, which is what I'm gonna at, sorry,

1000
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 4: like be around those people that you want to look

1001
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 4: up to, and yeah, I.

1002
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 3: All the people that.

1003
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: I also think it has to be the right time

1004
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: for you, because for example, I've been around a tier

1005
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: who has never touched a drink for over a year,

1006
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: and so it's it's like it's come to this like

1007
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: central point of me realizing how much it's affecting my

1008
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: personal development and also how important the personal development is

1009
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 1: to me right now.

1010
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.

1011
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,919
Speaker 4: And then the journey you're on these little things where

1012
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 4: you're having a drink and now I'm realizing that's just

1013
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 4: your journey and that's the path that you need to

1014
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 4: be on to get to where you where you want

1015
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 4: to go. So you can't put yourself down for doing that,

1016
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 4: because we all need to find those lows then correctress up.

1017
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 1: And also I think it's like similar to Ukiper, It's

1018
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: like I don't want to put a label on it,

1019
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 1: but I want to have the autonomy to make a choice.

1020
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: And it's like I felt like I haven't.

1021
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 4: Like on that note, I'm not gonna go sober for

1022
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 4: the rest of my life right now. It just this

1023
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 4: is what feels right to me. And it's so great

1024
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 4: that I've experienced not having alcohol and then I've got

1025
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 4: that experience and now I'm so aware of it. So

1026
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 4: because like I'm gonna have a beer. I'm gonna drink

1027
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 4: later on, but just when it seems fit to me,

1028
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 4: because I'm actually going on a boys strip in a

1029
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 4: few months, and I was it's been going over my

1030
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 4: head and I talked to Georgia about it, and you

1031
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 4: have challenged me. But I appreciate your challenge of not drinking,

1032
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 4: but I am doing my own thing of challenging myself

1033
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 4: to having a beer. I'm gonna have a beer and

1034
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 4: see how I feel and if I feel shit like

1035
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna drink, or if I feel good, I

1036
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 4: know that I'm going to feel a lot better without

1037
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 4: it the next week, or I don't know. Just like

1038
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 4: I'm flowing with what suits me and my journey. So

1039
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 4: I just yeah, like you said, there's no label. I'm

1040
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 4: just gonna that's it. I've experienced what I've experienced, and.

1041
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 3: I think forward.

1042
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: I think it's though, think about like the cool thing

1043
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: of bringing in the awareness about this. So, for example,

1044
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: when Cooper said that he might drink on this boys trip, obviously,

1045
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: my answer was but why, and we went, you know,

1046
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: he answered, and I went, but why yeah, and you're

1047
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 1: deep on it, yeah, and his answer, you know, it

1048
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,919
Speaker 1: was very interesting and I think that's still something that

1049
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: you know, you will continue to unpack. But it's like,

1050
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: at least we're having that conversation exactly. So it's like,

1051
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: to me, it doesn't matter if Cooper drinks or doesn't drink,

1052
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: but it's like us having that conversation beforehand, him diving

1053
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: deeper and like.

1054
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 2: Understanding and like being able to then make a choice too. Yeah.

1055
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 2: I find the word sober interesting too though, because I

1056
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 2: feel like there's a really big stigma around it. But

1057
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 2: for me, it's like a state of being, Like I

1058
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 2: would never describe myself as a sober person. I would

1059
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 2: describe myself as someone that doesn't drink. For me, sober

1060
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 2: only comes in if you're at an event and or

1061
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 2: you're driving home or something and someone says, are you sober,

1062
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,240
Speaker 2: as in, do you have alcohol in your system currently

1063
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 2: in the answer is no, it's not. I've never had

1064
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 2: alcohol in my system and I never will. It's currently

1065
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 2: right now, I don't have it. Yeah, that's interesting, and

1066
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 2: I just find it interesting that a lot of people

1067
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 2: get like there's a lot of pressure on a word

1068
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 2: when that's not even what the word means. Yeah.

1069
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: I love that, like looking into what's the actual language

1070
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: around this? It's the axual definition. Mm.

1071
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 2: So how do you feel indoor deep to end into

1072
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 2: it the podcast feeling like I'm gonna have some shampagne

1073
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 2: tomorrow and.

1074
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: Release after this conversation, I need a champagne.

1075
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 2: No, I'm Jack and Jack and Jackie.

1076
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1077
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: I think it's really cool, like to even have this

1078
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: conversation with both of yous, just like really cool to

1079
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: hear your in a tear and obviously Cooper, for you

1080
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: to share on the podcast, and then for us to

1081
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: continue our conversations about this.

1082
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 2: It's really cool and it is so.

1083
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: Right of it is interesting to think of, for example,

1084
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: if we never had the drinking model to us and

1085
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: it didn't feel like a condition similar to a tear.

1086
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: How would we feel and how would we be with alcohol?

1087
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: And that's just even something. And it's obviously like I

1088
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: truly believe you pick your parents and you pick your

1089
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: journey here. So I'm not questioning that.

1090
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 3: You pick your parents.

1091
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe when you come in as a soul,

1092
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: you pick your parents to learn certain lessons.

1093
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 2: That's cool. Yeah, anyway, you're welcome, mom, You're welcome mom,

1094
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 2: and dad. I am a hashtag blessing. Yep.

1095
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: It just looks away And so I'm like, that's even

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Speaker 1: a cool question to think about, because it is you're

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Speaker 1: so ratit here like it is, it's conditioning.

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Speaker 2: So it's like if you really get to the crux of.

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Speaker 1: Like why you drink and what are the you know,

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Speaker 1: reasons of then questioning those reasons any last thoughts or questions.

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Speaker 3: Coop, we would have drunk. But if they didn't drink,

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Speaker 3: we are we.

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Speaker 2: Would have drunk.

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Speaker 4: You're okay, Yeah, the stress levels and the high level lifestyle,

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Speaker 4: we like, it's just.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but maybe something maybe if we maybe if we

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Speaker 5: didn't have the same parents, it would.

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Speaker 2: Be so stressed. Well, that's it, definitely, No, we joke,

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Speaker 2: we joke we love our birds.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we definitely do.

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Speaker 4: But that's how they've lived their life and that's how

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Speaker 4: we are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very cool. Well, I feel very excited because very much.

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Speaker 1: You know, I fucking love a challenge, goober. Anyone tells

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Speaker 1: me you can't do something, I'm like, let's go. So now,

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Speaker 1: you guys have this kind of feels like a bit

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Speaker 1: of a challenge. And in saying that, I do want

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Speaker 1: to say I like, I personally.

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Speaker 2: Want to be able to move.

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Speaker 1: Through life and not like you're saying, have like have

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Speaker 1: to just subscribe to a label and have to identify.

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Speaker 1: And it's like I just get to be me and

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Speaker 1: serve me and make sure I'm asking myself these questions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah I do.

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Speaker 4: I want to challenge you on here, Georgia, to do

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Speaker 4: to challenge yourself.

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Speaker 3: This is for yourself as.

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Speaker 4: When there is an event or something where you think

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Speaker 4: you are going to be challenged to drink, like, challenge

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Speaker 4: yourself and ask yourself those questions of do I need

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Speaker 4: to how do I need to perform the next week,

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Speaker 4: how do I want to feel?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 4: Are these like drinking on that event? Do I need

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Speaker 4: to be drunk at this event with these people? And

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Speaker 4: what am I going to get out of it? Like,

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Speaker 4: ask all these questions and then that'll guide yourself. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm challenging.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you heard it here. I got it here.

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Speaker 1: First, I'm challenging you.

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Speaker 2: It sounds good, I'll do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the opposite. Yeah, scrap.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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Speaker 1: If you have enjoyed this chat, make sure you come

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Speaker 1: to our Facebook group. We're going to have a post there.

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Speaker 1: I just would love to hear your thoughts and yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's just like open up the conversation, let's challenge ourselves.

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Speaker 2: Let's question.

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Speaker 1: But also I just want to preface and just say

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Speaker 1: when we're talking about this, like, if you are someone

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Speaker 1: who drink, this is not us shaming you no or

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Speaker 1: trying to make you feel guilty or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: We're literally just we're talking about our experiences. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about currently, what we're processing and what's happening in our

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Speaker 1: brains and just bringing you on the journey.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I would actually like to know what everyone else thinks

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Speaker 4: and be open about their journey and where they're wanting

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Speaker 4: to go and.

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Speaker 2: Where they're at. And if that's living your best life party,

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Speaker 2: then do it? Love that for yourself.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you need to do that, then that's fun.

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Speaker 4: Like if everyone's on their own journey about this combo,

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Speaker 4: be open.

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Speaker 3: It's nice.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'll go have some water.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to another episode of

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Speaker 1: the Rise and Conker podcast. If you enjoyed it and

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Speaker 1: Podcast and we have a small team, so we do

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